Yeah, that's what I meant. Everyone cheers for the undedog. I mean, I liked Byzantium in EU3 and V2 - but I hate them in CK2 because they either blob or get crushed and make the map ugly in either way.Restoring the Frankish Empire as the last landed Karling, the Count of Vermandois, in 1066 was a pretty popular playthrough back then. Now though...