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Idk what is happening then, I guess the conversion to Polish Zloty is much worse now bcs i have never paid this much for a dlc and i have all of them.

I will still buy the dlc but propably wait a month or so, hopefully there will be some better deal and all of the bugs will be fixed by then ;)
I checked my order history and DLCs that were 20 EUR I bought at about 50 PLN when they were released, I don't remember rate but I think it was equal to about 12 EUR. Just check few online shops, not only steam
 
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Like I said above, the content in the DLC is great and I am sure it will be a very fun DLC. But a lot of people have been excitied for this DLC, and I assume a lot have been expecting it to be an Immersion pack, and priced at that rate. So now all of a sudden it's an expansion pack. It's easy to say when you have a comfortable living that 20 Euro or £16 is nothing and you'll get loads of value blah blah, but for many that's a lot of money they weren't expecting to spend.

I am also very happy they are still supporting EU4, and I wish they do for the forseeable fuiture, but yeah I think this is a bad move.
Well okay, but you can say that about any price ever set. If raising prices by 20% leaves you with 10% less buyers, it's overall still a good move. Depends on the price elasticity of your product.
 
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So the people buying this dlc have gone from paying for a game expansion to subsidizing a free patch for everyone? Because the content that the patch brings only justifies the price of an immersion pack as it is a rehash from old dlcs. Normally before the major expansions bring new mechanics for all countries, now you pay to upgrade the quality of the previous investment packs that you already paid for. I don't question the work or dedication of paradox, I question if it makes sense for what we paid for the dlc what we received.

Sorry for my english from google translate, and it´s only my opinion.
Hasn't that been the case for years now? IMO the content in the free patches has often been better than the content in the accompanying DLC.

I'm not sure a single EU4 DLC has ever justified its price based solely on its own content. Combined with the patch stuff howver is a different story.
 
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20 euros seems too much for the paid content. But, in the same way some other people said, the free content is much more interesting than new mission trees, special units, musics and artworks I won't use.
Guess I'll wait for a 25% discount to buy it,.
You need more government reforms and estates for 20 euros. Or advertise those more because I am really not interested by special units and mission trees.
 
I have Third Rome, Rule Britannia, Golden Century Immersion Packs that all include mission trees for Great Britain, Russia, Spain and such. I also paid for Mandate of Heaven, Cradle of Civilization which covers Japan, China and Ottomans. Why do i have to pay for them again?
 
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The target market for this DLC is not really the people on the forums imo, that'll be the next middle eastern one by the looks of things - so I'm happy to save up for that and wait for a sale on this one.

I think there is a bit of 'have your cake and eat it' wrt to content pack vs expansion as there is still a desire to sell expansions even though core development of the game is quite restricted (no new provinces, tags, engine work or multination mechanics etc.), and little in this DLC feels 'game-changing' unlike previous expansion packs - almost everything feels more like 'flavor' or balancing. So despite the quantity of stuff, it still feels more like a majors content pack than a game expansion.
 
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I really wish they'd go back to the old model of selling the game content and the art/music stuff separately. I'd definitely be happy to save a few hundred ¥ here by not having to pay for unit models/songs that I don't want.

No offence intended towards the artists here, it's just that I play EU4 with the music off and I never zoom in enough to really see unit models. It's just not stuff I use.
I have the tin foil hat suspicion that that's exactly the reason why they're no longer selling them separately. Too many people not buying them, so easier to just lump them in and increase the price to not give the option.

Obviously just the jaded, unfounded opinion of someone who keeps getting burned by development companies.
 
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i do not mind the price sooo much, i will simply not buy the dlc now because most of the nations with big new shiny trees are some i do not care to play. and if i ignore those nations the dlc is a bit lackluster for me. (not absolut, only relative to my nation picks)
 
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I just wonder If we'll be able to purchase that little extra music pack without preordering (if not, that a bit of a FOMO thing).
Which ultimately means 19.99€ + X.X€.
Even if they plan to sell it later, it's already FOMO simply by the fact they refuse to tell us if they will.
 
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i do not mind the price sooo much, i will simply not buy the dlc now because most of the nations with big new shiny trees are some i do not care to play. and if i ignore those nations the dlc is a bit lackluster for me. (not absolut, only relative to my nation picks)
I agree with that. I think I'll play once as Qing or Yuan to check new cmpire of china, maybe one more game as England or Aragon but I'm not sure. I'll decide when I learn more about the new mechanics.

For me new content are mainly government reforms
 
I just bought a stuffed toy for my kid for 22 quid. I think I can spend 20 quid on me. In fact already did.

No takeaway tonight. Oh wait it's pay day. All good.
 
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I have the tin foil hat suspicion that that's exactly the reason why they're no longer selling them separately. Too many people not buying them, so easier to just lump them in and increase the price to not give the option.

Obviously just the jaded, unfounded opinion of someone who keeps getting burned by development companies.
Thats not tinfoil thats exactly what immersion packs were supposed to be. Selling like 1/4th of a regular expansion (in regards to Third Rome RB GC and Origins are like 1/20th) While adding the unit packs and music ontop to justify the being half the cost of a regular expansion instead of 1/4th.
 
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As for price I can afford it but it's just not a priority. If there wasn't enough people buying dlc then developement dies I understand that. I'm still trying to bond with EU4 post 1.31+ I do have Leviathan and Origins since then but haven't played much. So I must admit I do consider buying them two abit of a mistake all things considered and I do like playing in the areas that those 2 dlc cover. So I'm wary buying into more EU4 at the moment.
 
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I don't think the amount of content here is Major expansion worthy, it's very similar to immersion packs (though perhaps a bit more).

The amount of money isn't significant to me (unlike others), but on the other hand, I'm not playing EU4 as much as I used to, and I'm inclined to wait for EU5 before I play more. If my not buying DLC(along with others) pushes them towards making EU5... maybe that's a good thing.
 
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Hello,
reading you I feel the need to speak to you personally and with my heart. So take this as a testimony and not a repproche.

I live in a certain poverty, I have money only for my rent my food and to bring games and dreams to my son that I educate alone. I only have 50-60 euros to invest in video games per year. For 5 years I have been waiting for the DLC of crusaders kings to be bought at affordable price. I could buy them for 30 euros but I have the impression that this price will never happen. I grew up with Paradox as soon as Hearts of iron and Europa universalis, you were for me the small studio that revolutionized the video game. You provided affordable games and it contrasted in the market.
Today I have the impression that you have become rich enough to believe that others are as rich as you. Our European societies are increasingly precarious and the gap between rich and poor is growing. I do not understand how paradox has been able to remain brilliant while departing from its popular base by creating divisions. Those who can buy the DLC and those who can only buy the base game.

I'm not entirely sure what the complaint is?

We've priced major expansions at 20$ since 2007, when we first released Napoleons Ambition for EU3.

If you want to compare Lions of the North to Domination and the amount of content added. Both have 13 mission trees, 6 major in Lions, 8 major in Domination. But where Domination grows is lots of new game mechanics where Lions had none. 9 unique units where Lions had 2. 9 new songs where Lions had 6 etc. More estate privileges, estates & government reforms and much more.