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Still not on it

Reject
 
Honestly, I'm ambivalent about this team. On the one hand, I'm not on it. That said, if I were Hazbot I'd propose exactly the team that he has proposed.

Rejecting the first four missions isn't always correct - if the spies know that we are doing so, then we will get no or bad information from the teams they propose (since they can propose multi-spy teams, and so on). We need to keep them on their feet by occasionally approving early to try and catch out a spy-heavy team.

VOTING THROUGH PM
 
REJECT

Same team, except at least one Resistance is off it. Why is this team suddenly okay?
 
It's not a bad team. The problem are all of the voters selfishly voting to reject because they're not on it. I expect that from Audren & aedan777; I'm a little bemused to see Ironhide G1 also now adopting this dumb attitude.

But now, with so many Rejects, this is a problematic proposal. It is only getting accepted if someone secretly switches their vote by PM. And what motive would a Resistance player have to do so?

REJECT
 
It's not a bad team. The problem are all of the voters selfishly voting to reject because they're not on it. I expect that from Audren & aedan777; I'm a little bemused to see Ironhide G1 also now adopting this dumb attitude.

But now, with so many Rejects, this is a problematic proposal. It is only getting accepted if someone secretly switches their vote by PM. And what motive would a Resistance player have to do so?

REJECT
There's nothing dumb about rejecting a team that you have no reason to trust. And every game who are the people who get the most suspicion? The people who approve teams that they aren't on that get sabotaged. Blind approvals only help the spies. Without information from teams, there's nothing to separate the roles of other players, so there's no reason to trust three random players rather than 2, since statistically the two will be safer than the three.
 
There's nothing dumb about rejecting a team that you have no reason to trust. And every game who are the people who get the most suspicion? The people who approve teams that they aren't on that get sabotaged. Blind approvals only help the spies. Without information from teams, there's nothing to separate the roles of other players, so there's no reason to trust three random players rather than 2, since statistically the two will be safer than the three.
But, as tamius23 pointed out, it is not intrinsically helpful to go straight to the 4th or 5th proposal. Rejecting for not trusting a team is fine; rejecting just because you are not on the team is dumb.
 
But, as tamius23 pointed out, it is not intrinsically helpful to go straight to the 4th or 5th proposal. Rejecting for not trusting a team is fine; rejecting just because you are not on the team is dumb.
But why should one trust any teams one isn't on? There isn't any information on anyone yet, so trusting anyone is the exception, not the norm.
 
But why should one trust any teams one isn't on? There isn't any information on anyone yet, so trusting anyone is the exception, not the norm.
to be fair, I don't really like the idea of letting everything fall into Haresus' hands and we have to accept whatever he proposes. Especially since he's such an unkown
 
to be fair, I don't really like the idea of letting everything fall into Haresus' hands and we have to accept whatever he proposes. Especially since he's such an unkown
Ok? Your distrust of Haresus is noted. But he isn't the one who'd have the fifth proposal that must go through. That'd be you.
 
to be fair, I don't really like the idea of letting everything fall into Haresus' hands and we have to accept whatever he proposes. Especially since he's such an unkown

Well, I don't think Hazbot's proposal is bad at all, and I might even suggest the exact same one if this is rejected. It got myself in there, it got Hazbot with the ItS card that he can use to make the mission extra safe and I see no special reason to replace you for some other unknown person. Of course, I am open to suggestions.

Plus, as Aedan noted, you are the one with the last mission, not me.
 
Well, I don't think Hazbot's proposal is bad at all, and I might even suggest the exact same one if this is rejected. It got myself in there, it got Hazbot with the ItS card that he can use to make the mission extra safe and I see no special reason to replace you for some other unknown person. Of course, I am open to suggestions.

Plus, as Aedan noted, you are the one with the last mission, not me.
Agreed, Hazbot's proposal is solid It's nothing against you personally, I just in general don't like having the mission get to proposal 5, which you are right, it falls on me not you. Honestly if I were you I'd keep the same team. You got 1 guaranteed resistance member in me and a card holder.
 
Reject

Same team as last time
 
Hazbot proposes a mission of himself, Haresus, and Jacksonian Missionary.
The proposal is REJECTED 3-7.
Approvals: Hazbot, Haresus, Jacksonian Missionary
Rejections: Ironhide G1, Jerman TK, Falc, Tamius23 (via PM), Aedan777, Ironhead 5, Audren

@Haresus, it is your turn to propose the mission.
 
Approve