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You can imagine the psychological pain saying this as a Hungarian causes me, but mici are superior.
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Just purposefully mispronounce it, it alleviates some of the pain. We always called it “mici hús” (read as if it were Hungarian orthography). I only later figured out it was a joke because my dad didn’t know how to pronounce it.
If someone has only had ćevapi though, I really do recommend mici, it’s less dry and more flavourful.
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No, the bit about Bukelon is correctly depicted now. It was probably Byzantine for a few years again.
Anyway, not sure if the Rhodopes changes are correct. Plovdiv was indeed under Byzantine control, too.
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Glad to see others were quicker on the uptake. Byzantium getting a big chunk taken out of it that contradicted every book and map I have read on the period was instantly noticeable. Byzantium looks like it has 867 borders in the region instead of 1337.
I get the logic of Philippopolis. Paradox for some reason put it north of the river on the Bulgarian side even though it was the most prized Byzantine city in the region and the reason Bulgaria joined the civil war. That alone though should tell you everything south of it was Byzantine.
On the other hand as I’ve also brought up before Phokaia in Anatolia should be at least a Byzantine vassal under the Genoese lord Domencio Cattaneo since Andronikos just forced him to surrender and submit In 1336 before he was fully evicted in 1340 by a Greek revolt.
And of course Byzantium should be Allied to Turkish Aydin on start.
Finally going over my last retreaded point, it’s debatable whether Genoa owned Amastris yet.
I get the logic of Philippopolis. Paradox for some reason put it north of the river on the Bulgarian side even though it was the most prized Byzantine city in the region and the reason Bulgaria joined the civil war. That alone though should tell you everything south of it was Byzantine.
I hope but I’ve been fully ignored myself when bringing up that Epirus should be independent and not a vassal.
On the other hand as I’ve also brought up before Phokaia in Anatolia should be at least a Byzantine vassal under the Genoese lord Domencio Cattaneo since Andronikos just forced him to surrender and submit In 1336 before he was fully evicted in 1340 by a Greek revolt.
And of course Byzantium should be Allied to Turkish Aydin on start.
Finally going over my last retreaded point, it’s debatable whether Genoa owned Amastris yet.
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I kind of hope the borders of Plovdiv can be redrawn to actually represent it being under Byzantine control. I get the bit about the river and the city eventually being on two sides of it, but I hope there's some middleground. The city is just too important to not be under Byzantine control.
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The southern border of Bulgaria used to be more accurate, true (ignoring where Plovdiv is situated), even the two Provinces now in possession of ERE east of the Rhodopes could have been inside Bulgaria (speculatively) after the Battle of Russokastro. For this change I suspect a decision based on Balancing and flavor mechanichs.
I suspect Bulgaria is being rebalanced for an event split first of the Dobrudja Despotate and after the death of Ivan Alexander - the split of Vidin, so the devs probably wanted to have the status quo after the Byz civ war, because there is no point to have scripted events if the prerequesites of the starting position is completely different, so they probably decided Bulgaria should not be worse off after the two times event split, than historically. There is also potential for flavor for Bulgaria in this region especially regarding the Rila Monastery, which Tsar Ivan Shishman was seemingly (at least in the 1370ties) in possession of. For Byzantium this refgion is probably economically insignificant foreign culture mountains terrain in game - being out of range of Via Egnatia in the Mountains. Even if they posses Plovdiv - it would be practically without reach over the Mountains, if they do not control the whole of northern Thrace, there is no way to control the city long-term, as it happened many times in real history.
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Dear devs
I just watched Laiths video, and being from Serbia/Kosovo, I noticed an issue with one of the provinces in Kosovo.
If you take a look above the province of Peć/Peja(Albanian name) you will see a province named Mitrovica, my hometown. What I wanted to point out is that Mitrovica was a small/insignificant town back in the Middle Ages, and especially when Emperor Dušan was ruling. The town that had a more significant role was the town of Zvečan, which is 3km from Mitrovica.
Above the town of Zvečan is a medieval fortress which had an overlook from Zvečan, all the way to Priština. The father of the emperor Dušan was put in captivity there and blinded by Dušan actually. I hope the developers will take note of this and consider changing the province's name, or at least consult a historian on the matter.
I would gladly help you by sending you reliable sources for this matter.
I just watched Laiths video, and being from Serbia/Kosovo, I noticed an issue with one of the provinces in Kosovo.
If you take a look above the province of Peć/Peja(Albanian name) you will see a province named Mitrovica, my hometown. What I wanted to point out is that Mitrovica was a small/insignificant town back in the Middle Ages, and especially when Emperor Dušan was ruling. The town that had a more significant role was the town of Zvečan, which is 3km from Mitrovica.
Above the town of Zvečan is a medieval fortress which had an overlook from Zvečan, all the way to Priština. The father of the emperor Dušan was put in captivity there and blinded by Dušan actually. I hope the developers will take note of this and consider changing the province's name, or at least consult a historian on the matter.
I would gladly help you by sending you reliable sources for this matter.
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Hello I would like to submit a map not only to the devs but to the community so that everybody could give feedback and try making a civilized discussion which would make sure everybody is listened to and also make our position clear and would make the devs job easier.
Also instead of Disagreeing please give feedback so I can fix the map
Things I forgot, mistook or didn't add
1- The Cango people. I wasn't sure if there were substantial group of them in the early 14 century
2- Arvanites Their migration Started around the 1330s so I wasn't sure if it is better to show them by how their migration finished or by how is it currently (in 1337 is probably around Argirokastro). And the location of Kleisoura should be majority Albanian not Vlach.
3- I also wasn't sure about the Albanians which went to thessaly where exactly did they settle or did they became part of the Vlachs please let me know.
4- Should there be Slavonian Culture and if there is should Zagorje region be part of it
5-Were there so many Bulgarians in Bujak. Because:
Vasil Gyuzelev
Told that Budjak is a Bulgarian frontier zone in the late medieval period. Emphasized that the local population was predominantly Bulgarian-speaking Orthodox Christians during the Second Bulgarian Empire’s control until the early 14th century. After the Mongol (Golden Horde) incursions Bulgarian political control weakened (exept around Teodor Svetoslav's reign) but many Bulgarian peasants remained in the rural remote areas. Suggests gradual demographic changes only took place in the 15th–16th centuries, with the arrival of Tatars, Moldavians, and later Ottoman settlers.
7-Remenants of Pechenegs in Hungary as well as Ismaili remnants
8- A) If Orsova is part of Bulgaria during 1337 because Hungary captures it in 1366 when they are at war with the Vidin principality.Because Turnu, Giurgiu are controlled by Bulgaria.
B) Turnu majority is probably vlach but the direct control is Bulgarian if it was like Giurgiu only along the river it would be Bulgarian majority.
9-Saxon presence in North-Northeast Hungary
10- Would the Rusyns be majority along the northern Carpathian slopes (where you see minority)
11- Vlach or Albanian minority in Janina
The map form the 13th and the one form the late 15 century are the ones i have used for Hungary. To be honest I prefer the one form the 13th because the one form the 15th century is post ottoman and many Serbs and Vlachs have started migrating. As well as a lot of Slovaks and Germans.
I think that is enough please give me feedback
Also instead of Disagreeing please give feedback so I can fix the map
Things I forgot, mistook or didn't add
1- The Cango people. I wasn't sure if there were substantial group of them in the early 14 century
2- Arvanites Their migration Started around the 1330s so I wasn't sure if it is better to show them by how their migration finished or by how is it currently (in 1337 is probably around Argirokastro). And the location of Kleisoura should be majority Albanian not Vlach.
3- I also wasn't sure about the Albanians which went to thessaly where exactly did they settle or did they became part of the Vlachs please let me know.
4- Should there be Slavonian Culture and if there is should Zagorje region be part of it
5-Were there so many Bulgarians in Bujak. Because:
Vasil Gyuzelev
Told that Budjak is a Bulgarian frontier zone in the late medieval period. Emphasized that the local population was predominantly Bulgarian-speaking Orthodox Christians during the Second Bulgarian Empire’s control until the early 14th century. After the Mongol (Golden Horde) incursions Bulgarian political control weakened (exept around Teodor Svetoslav's reign) but many Bulgarian peasants remained in the rural remote areas. Suggests gradual demographic changes only took place in the 15th–16th centuries, with the arrival of Tatars, Moldavians, and later Ottoman settlers.
Petar Petrov
Used Ottoman defters and church records to trace Bulgarian Orthodox Christian communities in Dobruja and Budjak during the 15th–16th centuries. Confirmed a significant Bulgarian population persisted under Ottoman rule, mainly rural and agrarian, with Bulgarian village names and personal names recorded. Noted some ethnic mixing with Vlachs (Romanians), Tatars, and other groups, but emphasizes Bulgarian linguistic and cultural continuity in many settlements.
Georgy Bakalov
From archaeological and settlement studies, confirms that many fortresses and villages in Budjak show Slavic/Bulgarian material culture and inscriptions dating from the medieval period. Argues that Bulgarian population continuity was strong, particularly around strategic fortresses like Akkerman, Kiliya, and Izmail (though the latter later became more multi-ethnic). Finds evidence of Bulgarian Orthodox ecclesiastical organization in the region, supporting a Bulgarian identity.
Yordan Andreev
Emphasizes that Budjak was part of the Bulgarian ethnosphere during the 13th–early 14th century, politically and culturally. Discusses the loss of Bulgarian control in the 14th century but notes the persistence of Bulgarian Orthodox communities for centuries after. Highlights how Ottoman defters recorded Christian (mostly Bulgarian) villages well into the 16th century, indicating ethnic resilience despite changing rulers.
6- Numbers of east Slavs in Northern and Northeast Moldavia7-Remenants of Pechenegs in Hungary as well as Ismaili remnants
8- A) If Orsova is part of Bulgaria during 1337 because Hungary captures it in 1366 when they are at war with the Vidin principality.Because Turnu, Giurgiu are controlled by Bulgaria.
B) Turnu majority is probably vlach but the direct control is Bulgarian if it was like Giurgiu only along the river it would be Bulgarian majority.
9-Saxon presence in North-Northeast Hungary
10- Would the Rusyns be majority along the northern Carpathian slopes (where you see minority)
11- Vlach or Albanian minority in Janina
The map form the 13th and the one form the late 15 century are the ones i have used for Hungary. To be honest I prefer the one form the 13th because the one form the 15th century is post ottoman and many Serbs and Vlachs have started migrating. As well as a lot of Slovaks and Germans.
I think that is enough please give me feedback
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