To my knowledge OSA's classification as a Central Semitic language is still disputed. Doing linguistics to languages dead fifteen hundred years is kinda hard.
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1. Portugal, will probably be my first campaign (or several), just like it was in EU4. Should make for a relatively chill campaign isolated from most dangers, allowing me to learn economy and scale for the first 100 years or so, be the first one to start exploring and form a colonial empire. Maybe start expanding into North Africa when I'm feeling brave enough (and hopefully NOT getting my king and his entire army stackwiped, leading to falling under a union with Spain, as I think happened historically).
2. Muscovy > Russia, should be an interesting yet challenging experience given their significantly weaker starting position compared to EU4. Centralize control over the other tributaries, overthrow the Yoke when the time is right, work towards establishing a Tsardom from sea to sea. As a long-term goal, maybe play around with seeing how much Control I can extend across the vast overland empire, and how stupidly rich I can get via a mostly raw goods-based economy?
3. Somewhere in Japan for sure, definitely starting as a Daimyo, not sure which really. Heck I'm not even sure who the options are. Probably not Oda if they even exist at the start, too overhyped. Maybe if there's one who happens to share the same namesake as one of my favorite KanColle shipgirls? Not really sure how the building-based early-game plays up until Sengoku (no intention of doing an early "rebellion" to become landed even if that option survives to launch day). Then, unite the islands, work on centralizing control for a bit, and the sky's the limit. Subjugate Korea? Try invading China in their times of weakness? Go a bit more ahistorical and try colonizing the SEA islands or the western coast of the New World? Who knows? I just hope Paradox fixes the issue of the Black Death wiping out half of China and Japan before the game comes out, though.
4. Brandenburg > Prussia I suppose? I guess I'm already kind of running out of ideas at this point, maybe not a good sign. Pretty self-explanatory tbh, anyone who's played EU4 has probably done the "Prussian Space Marines" meme at least once.
5. Ottomans. Sometimes it's just fun being the bad guy, y'know?
6. Florence. Was my first Italian state in EU4, too. I'll admit most of my interest in the state comes from Assassin's Creed 2. But it'll be fun to see how rich and "tall" you can grow as an Italian republic in EU5's economic system.
7. Greenland > Vinland. I guess this one's pretty inevitable at some point. Very challenging and extremely slow start, reliant mostly on slow buildup and begging your fellow Scandinavians for extra pop. No Norse unfortunately, but a Scandinavian New World state forming before the typical colonizers get there will certainly make for an interesting experience.
8. Something in India, haven't studied the map yet to decide who. Will have to wait until the final release's balance to know how feasible it is, but a challenge of uniting the entire subcontinent and exploiting the great wealth of India for India, rather than the British crown, sounds cool. India always made for a fantastic production-based economy in EU4, I can only imagine this will be even better in EU5 with the increased granularity of Locations and a detailed Population system. Again, hopefully the ahistorical eastern spread of the Black Death gets fixed first though.
9. Norse revival as Norway or Sweden or whoever it was who starts with the small handful of Norse pops. No idea how it'll work or how feasible it'll be, but as long as it's still possible, you can bet that I and many other Paradox gamers are going to do it at least once. A goal of forming the North Sea Empire seems about right - maybe with Normandy (not Norway durr), Holland, and the Irish as subjects?
10. England > Great Britain > 13 Colonies > USA. Took me a while to remember this one. EUV will finally have something that I've wished EU4 had for years - the ability to release and PLAY AS a colonial subject immediately upon creation, instead of being forced to make your colonial nation fully independent just to be able to play as them without non-Ironman-compatible tag-switching shenanigans. Being able to grow and prosper for a while under benevolent English rule, then fight a properly bloody war of independence when that penny-a-pound tariff on tea starts feeling a little too tyrannical, feels like exactly the kind of long-form campaign I've been waiting for.
2. Muscovy > Russia, should be an interesting yet challenging experience given their significantly weaker starting position compared to EU4. Centralize control over the other tributaries, overthrow the Yoke when the time is right, work towards establishing a Tsardom from sea to sea. As a long-term goal, maybe play around with seeing how much Control I can extend across the vast overland empire, and how stupidly rich I can get via a mostly raw goods-based economy?
3. Somewhere in Japan for sure, definitely starting as a Daimyo, not sure which really. Heck I'm not even sure who the options are. Probably not Oda if they even exist at the start, too overhyped. Maybe if there's one who happens to share the same namesake as one of my favorite KanColle shipgirls? Not really sure how the building-based early-game plays up until Sengoku (no intention of doing an early "rebellion" to become landed even if that option survives to launch day). Then, unite the islands, work on centralizing control for a bit, and the sky's the limit. Subjugate Korea? Try invading China in their times of weakness? Go a bit more ahistorical and try colonizing the SEA islands or the western coast of the New World? Who knows? I just hope Paradox fixes the issue of the Black Death wiping out half of China and Japan before the game comes out, though.
4. Brandenburg > Prussia I suppose? I guess I'm already kind of running out of ideas at this point, maybe not a good sign. Pretty self-explanatory tbh, anyone who's played EU4 has probably done the "Prussian Space Marines" meme at least once.
5. Ottomans. Sometimes it's just fun being the bad guy, y'know?
6. Florence. Was my first Italian state in EU4, too. I'll admit most of my interest in the state comes from Assassin's Creed 2. But it'll be fun to see how rich and "tall" you can grow as an Italian republic in EU5's economic system.
7. Greenland > Vinland. I guess this one's pretty inevitable at some point. Very challenging and extremely slow start, reliant mostly on slow buildup and begging your fellow Scandinavians for extra pop. No Norse unfortunately, but a Scandinavian New World state forming before the typical colonizers get there will certainly make for an interesting experience.
8. Something in India, haven't studied the map yet to decide who. Will have to wait until the final release's balance to know how feasible it is, but a challenge of uniting the entire subcontinent and exploiting the great wealth of India for India, rather than the British crown, sounds cool. India always made for a fantastic production-based economy in EU4, I can only imagine this will be even better in EU5 with the increased granularity of Locations and a detailed Population system. Again, hopefully the ahistorical eastern spread of the Black Death gets fixed first though.
9. Norse revival as Norway or Sweden or whoever it was who starts with the small handful of Norse pops. No idea how it'll work or how feasible it'll be, but as long as it's still possible, you can bet that I and many other Paradox gamers are going to do it at least once. A goal of forming the North Sea Empire seems about right - maybe with Normandy (not Norway durr), Holland, and the Irish as subjects?
10. England > Great Britain > 13 Colonies > USA. Took me a while to remember this one. EUV will finally have something that I've wished EU4 had for years - the ability to release and PLAY AS a colonial subject immediately upon creation, instead of being forced to make your colonial nation fully independent just to be able to play as them without non-Ironman-compatible tag-switching shenanigans. Being able to grow and prosper for a while under benevolent English rule, then fight a properly bloody war of independence when that penny-a-pound tariff on tea starts feeling a little too tyrannical, feels like exactly the kind of long-form campaign I've been waiting for.
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1. Milan: Because I always like getting to know the game in a place I'm familiar with playing. Besides, you don't have to choose between Venice and Genoa for trade when one is just over some hills, and the other is just down the river.
2. Norway: Familiar for more IRL reasons, and also to learn logistics. Would aim to subjugate Scandinavia, the Baltics and the British Islands to feed my need for Vinland.
3. Brandenburg -> Prussia; space marines go wroom?
4. Zoroastrian Persia: Just like my divine sister intended
5. Japan: boats, boats, boats and plenty of people to crew them. Also: ships!
6. Some bank thing. Hopefully I can relocate the HQ to Oslo and RP the sovereign wealth fund.
7. Knights in Rhodes: Guys! Guys? Jerusalem is right there guys.. Yes Venice, you go east and southeast from here to crusade against heathens, not north.
8. Kiev: due to recent events, and by this game I should have learnt enough
9. Back to doing 15 games as Milan again I guess
2. Norway: Familiar for more IRL reasons, and also to learn logistics. Would aim to subjugate Scandinavia, the Baltics and the British Islands to feed my need for Vinland.
3. Brandenburg -> Prussia; space marines go wroom?
4. Zoroastrian Persia: Just like my divine sister intended
5. Japan: boats, boats, boats and plenty of people to crew them. Also: ships!
6. Some bank thing. Hopefully I can relocate the HQ to Oslo and RP the sovereign wealth fund.
7. Knights in Rhodes: Guys! Guys? Jerusalem is right there guys.. Yes Venice, you go east and southeast from here to crusade against heathens, not north.
8. Kiev: due to recent events, and by this game I should have learnt enough
9. Back to doing 15 games as Milan again I guess
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1. Brandeburgo/Prusia
2. Otomanos
3. Aztecas
4. Purépechas
5. Granada
6. Daimio/Japón
7. Timur/Mughal
8. Moscovia
9. Florencia
10. Small country in India
2. Otomanos
3. Aztecas
4. Purépechas
5. Granada
6. Daimio/Japón
7. Timur/Mughal
8. Moscovia
9. Florencia
10. Small country in India
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1: Novgorod - Make the Republic a Global trade powerhouse and spread Orthodoxy to Asia and western Europe. Peasants and Burglers will rule the country!
2: Venice - Global Trade powerhouse again, TALL GAMEPLAY! <3 remake the spice trade. Make million of Trade City's that are "Subjects!" not independent stats! to serve under me!
3: Whales - Tough start, but will retake Britania and follow the legacy of King Arthur!
4: Denmark - Somehow invade Sweden and convert to Norse Religion. Invade England and reinvent "The DaneLaw" - Later to make "The North Sea Empire!"
5: Kyiv - Remake the Kieven'Rus! with alot of princes under me! - Spread Orthodoxy everythere! - Somehow be the Emperor of the Holy Empire and make Orthodox The True faith!
6: Any nation at 1337 with the Pagan starting faith in Europe.
7: Bohemia - Be the Hussite faith and spread the faith to all princes in the Empire - make Hussite the TRUE FAITH in The Empire!
8: Spain/Leon - Somehow rise up and play as the Nation, Leon. Retake their fomer glory in Iberia!
9: Normandy - Retake the cown of France & England! - Make Normandy the true successor of the two nations!
10: Pomorania - Expand east and convert to Pegan - Spread Peganism everywhere! The Slavic faith must return as Norse have! (i hope)
2: Venice - Global Trade powerhouse again, TALL GAMEPLAY! <3 remake the spice trade. Make million of Trade City's that are "Subjects!" not independent stats! to serve under me!
3: Whales - Tough start, but will retake Britania and follow the legacy of King Arthur!
4: Denmark - Somehow invade Sweden and convert to Norse Religion. Invade England and reinvent "The DaneLaw" - Later to make "The North Sea Empire!"
5: Kyiv - Remake the Kieven'Rus! with alot of princes under me! - Spread Orthodoxy everythere! - Somehow be the Emperor of the Holy Empire and make Orthodox The True faith!
6: Any nation at 1337 with the Pagan starting faith in Europe.
7: Bohemia - Be the Hussite faith and spread the faith to all princes in the Empire - make Hussite the TRUE FAITH in The Empire!
8: Spain/Leon - Somehow rise up and play as the Nation, Leon. Retake their fomer glory in Iberia!
9: Normandy - Retake the cown of France & England! - Make Normandy the true successor of the two nations!
10: Pomorania - Expand east and convert to Pegan - Spread Peganism everywhere! The Slavic faith must return as Norse have! (i hope)
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1. Flanders or Brabant (depends on how much flavour they'll get).
2. Restoring Zoroastrian Persia.
3. Love me a good ol' Brittany playthrough.
4. Cilicia, restore Armenia and make Tigranes the Great proud.
5. Sweden.
6. Wales, reconquer Britain and return it to its rightful rulers.
7. If possible: Assyria or an Assyrian culture nation. Time to bring back the Assyrian Empire.
8. Roman Empire, for obvious reasons.
9. Any Italian state and form Italy.
10. Ethiopia.
2. Restoring Zoroastrian Persia.
3. Love me a good ol' Brittany playthrough.
4. Cilicia, restore Armenia and make Tigranes the Great proud.
5. Sweden.
6. Wales, reconquer Britain and return it to its rightful rulers.
7. If possible: Assyria or an Assyrian culture nation. Time to bring back the Assyrian Empire.
8. Roman Empire, for obvious reasons.
9. Any Italian state and form Italy.
10. Ethiopia.
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Would we find it acceptable if the game released with "Japan not yet playable", like it apparently was for the influencers?
1. Ireland: As an Irishman myself, our history is a litany of tragedy caused by our neighbours (and unlike most dysfunctional relationships, this one really is entirely the fault of one party). I am planning to use my EU5 run as Ireland to create Celtica, which I assume will cover Ireland, Scotland and Wales as a minimum and after that go colonising. Bonus points for shattering England into two states and keeping them as vassals. Not entirely sure WHICH Irish minor I will start as, but that will come in time.
2. Byzantium: What's not to love? The Byzantine Empire is always fun to try and bring back from the brink and it might be a little easier in this game. Hoping there is path for the Empire to become more Greek and less Roman though (not every Byzantine run needs to be bring back the Roman Empire run, right?)
3. Japan: For me, the most interesting country in East Asia. EU5 looks like I maybe able to do a relatively realistic run, not a 'crush China' goal, but a game where I try and take control of Korea and Manchuria whilst colonising Siberia, Taiwan and Austrlia. Curious to see if the earlier start will allow me to entrench myself in certain regions faster. I may go with a southern court start (which is probably the harder of the two) if the end result is better for my long term plans.
4./5. Inca & Aztecs: I have always had a soft spot for these two, and some of my best games in EU4 where stopping the colonial powers and building successful native states. Unlike Byzantium, it maybe harder this time around given the pop mechanics.
6/7. An Italian State and Brandenburg: Best campaign I ever had was a Venice game in EU4 where I formed Italy and then the Roman Empire. And Brandenburg games are always fun. Will be looking to form cultural unions with both starts (which in my Brandenburg run, means bad news for Austria).
8. Muscovy: If you're going to form Russia, the original seems the best place to start...
9./10. Castile & Granada: Castile is actually going to be my training game. I plan to murder Portugal (to eliminate competition in the new world) and secure the entirety of the Iberian peninsula before colonising. Granda will be Iberia hard mode, but I wish to see how much of the Islamic world I can bring under my control starting from there.
2. Byzantium: What's not to love? The Byzantine Empire is always fun to try and bring back from the brink and it might be a little easier in this game. Hoping there is path for the Empire to become more Greek and less Roman though (not every Byzantine run needs to be bring back the Roman Empire run, right?)
3. Japan: For me, the most interesting country in East Asia. EU5 looks like I maybe able to do a relatively realistic run, not a 'crush China' goal, but a game where I try and take control of Korea and Manchuria whilst colonising Siberia, Taiwan and Austrlia. Curious to see if the earlier start will allow me to entrench myself in certain regions faster. I may go with a southern court start (which is probably the harder of the two) if the end result is better for my long term plans.
4./5. Inca & Aztecs: I have always had a soft spot for these two, and some of my best games in EU4 where stopping the colonial powers and building successful native states. Unlike Byzantium, it maybe harder this time around given the pop mechanics.
6/7. An Italian State and Brandenburg: Best campaign I ever had was a Venice game in EU4 where I formed Italy and then the Roman Empire. And Brandenburg games are always fun. Will be looking to form cultural unions with both starts (which in my Brandenburg run, means bad news for Austria).
8. Muscovy: If you're going to form Russia, the original seems the best place to start...
9./10. Castile & Granada: Castile is actually going to be my training game. I plan to murder Portugal (to eliminate competition in the new world) and secure the entirety of the Iberian peninsula before colonising. Granda will be Iberia hard mode, but I wish to see how much of the Islamic world I can bring under my control starting from there.
There is a lot I wanna try out, so anything can change. But first game will probably something not too fancy, getting comfortable with the game mechanics, maybe Castile or Portugal.
Real wanna-dos in no particular order:
1. Teutonic Order, going east and maybe trying to form Prussia.
2. Muscovy -> Russia
3. Japan, maybe as a Daimyo
4. A german mini-state (probably my hometown of Saarbrücken, althrough I doubt that will work out lol), trying to become Kaiser, forming Germany and centralizing the HRE. BE AMBITIOUS!
5. The English Pale, trying to conquer Ireland and staying a loyal vassal until England converts and becoming independant. (I'm sorry Irishmen, I'm sympathetic to you irl but I wanna try an evil underling run lol)
6. Korea
7. Something in southeast asia, maybe Khmer or Dai Viet.
8. Hungary
9. Sweden (maybe Denmark)
10. One of the persian dynasties, destroying the Ilkhanate, forming Persia proper. Also interested in playing Georgia.
Real wanna-dos in no particular order:
1. Teutonic Order, going east and maybe trying to form Prussia.
2. Muscovy -> Russia
3. Japan, maybe as a Daimyo
4. A german mini-state (probably my hometown of Saarbrücken, althrough I doubt that will work out lol), trying to become Kaiser, forming Germany and centralizing the HRE. BE AMBITIOUS!
5. The English Pale, trying to conquer Ireland and staying a loyal vassal until England converts and becoming independant. (I'm sorry Irishmen, I'm sympathetic to you irl but I wanna try an evil underling run lol)
6. Korea
7. Something in southeast asia, maybe Khmer or Dai Viet.
8. Hungary
9. Sweden (maybe Denmark)
10. One of the persian dynasties, destroying the Ilkhanate, forming Persia proper. Also interested in playing Georgia.
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