Unsettled territories ruining missions

[ohdear]

What is the logic for unsettled provinces stopping completion of mission stages?

All of provinces x, y & z must be occupied by Rome or a subject and a single unsettled province prevents you from completing it. Pretty sure if Rome’d conquered all of Illyria except for one mountainous province where I’ve eliminated the local populace they’d be cracking on with the colonia and getting on to the next job.

Nearly every mission I’ve done has been held up (sometimes for decades) over this. In the end I had to integrate cultures left and right to get round it, and that felt wrong - Rome was Roman.

Is there anyway around this? A mod or similar?

 

[Saladin87]

What is the logic for unsettled provinces stopping completion of mission stages?

All of provinces x, y & z must be occupied by Rome or a subject and a single unsettled province prevents you from completing it. Pretty sure if Rome’d conquered all of Illyria except for one mountainous province where I’ve eliminated the local populace they’d be cracking on with the colonia and getting on to the next job.

Nearly every mission I’ve done has been held up (sometimes for decades) over this. In the end I had to integrate cultures left and right to get round it, and that felt wrong - Rome was Roman.

Is there anyway around this? A mod or similar?

I've had an equally annoying experience while playing Kush. "The matter of Punt" mission requires all of the region to be under Kushitic control but huge chunks of this region is unsettled and the population in these territories belong to two different unintegrated cultures so it's extremely difficult / time consuming to complete these type of missions. Even a hundred years may not be enough to finish the mission. I had to abort and move on to the next mission unfortunately. If anyone knows of a workaround, please share. But if it involves a pop resettlement click-fest, then no thanks. These types of missions really diminish some of the enjoyment from playing these small but very interesting nations.

 

[Nostalgium]

The easiest but excruciatingly painful workaround for this is the very click-heavy move of eight slaves of your religion/culture to the border of uncolonized territory, sometimes all the way from your capital region, and shift pops around to colonize. Due to the way the colonization system works, it's entirely possible to colonize the entirity of say Ireland in literally one in-game day, it just takes 8+ clicks per province shifting your slaves around to ensure dominant culture/religion is correct. Far from ideal, but that is how it be.

EDIT: I usually just ignore those missions and move on unless I really, REALLY want/need that next step. I have a similar hatred for Diadochi missions that require you to integrate the entire Near East.

 

[ohdear]

The easiest but excruciatingly painful workaround for this is the very click-heavy move of eight slaves of your religion/culture to the border of uncolonized territory, sometimes all the way from your capital region, and shift pops around to colonize. Due to the way the colonization system works, it's entirely possible to colonize the entirity of say Ireland in literally one in-game day, it just takes 8+ clicks per province shifting your slaves around to ensure dominant culture/religion is correct. Far from ideal, but that is how it be.

EDIT: I usually just ignore those missions and move on unless I really, REALLY want/need that next step. I have a similar hatred for Diadochi missions that require you to integrate the entire Near East.

How do you get pops into the province from an area where you’ve integrated pops? For example, how do I get Roman pops into cis-alpine Gaul or Illyria?

 

[Nostalgium]

How do you get pops into the province from an area where you’ve integrated pops? For example, how do I get Roman pops into cis-alpine Gaul or Illyria?

You can move pops in two ways: From any territory in the province, or from any neighbouring territory. It's that last one that's interesting to us. So what you do is concentrate however many Roman/Hellenic slaves you need to make every colonized area be Roman/Hellenic as primary to the borders of a province, then shuffle them over to a neighbouring territory in the next province, then to the border of that province, and shuffle over to the next, etc. It's a long, painful and potentially expensive process, but it's the only way.

 

[ohdear]

You can move pops in two ways: From any territory in the province, or from any neighbouring territory. It's that last one that's interesting to us. So what you do is concentrate however many Roman/Hellenic slaves you need to make every colonized area be Roman/Hellenic as primary to the borders of a province, then shuffle them over to a neighbouring territory in the next province, then to the border of that province, and shuffle over to the next, etc. It's a long, painful and potentially expensive process, but it's the only way.

Thank you - I didn’t realise you could do that.

Is it possible to move them overseas?

 

[Phili]

I've hit this problem for the first time with "claiming all the Alps".
I tried moving slaves to the territory next to it but it needs to be Pops to colonize.
I was planning to found a city next to the province and building Academies and Law courts to attract the right Pops.

 

[Nostalgium]

Thank you - I didn’t realise you could do that.

Is it possible to move them overseas?

One sea zone, I think.

 

[ohdear]

One sea zone, I think.

Thank you. Good for Greece then, not so much use for the parts of Judea I stripped clean of pops.
These are lessons for me to learn for next play through I think.

 

[Widukind]

If you have as Roman the military tradition CASTRA, then can you claim the unsettled province.

 

[Llort_7991]

Fastest non-ironman way is using the debug mode. Then you can enter commands to fix the situation.

Enter: conquer 4413 Off course you have to fill in another number. This number is off the top of my head off the Illyrian territories.

Hit enter and voila! Have run into this problem quite a couple of times. Debug mode is very handy for this kinda thing (if not iron man)
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[Ffc]

It's not only about mission, the entire colonization thing needs a rework anyway

 

[ohdear]

If you have as Roman the military tradition CASTRA, then can you claim the unsettled province.

So you can - I never realised that.

Definitely need to rethink my strategy next time.

 

[BlackPrince]

I've played about 250 hours in last 15 days, with different countries and regions and this happened to me in every campaign at least 3 times. Must be fixed. Quick.

 

[ohdear]

I think the easiest solution would be to change the conditions from “all territories in provinces x,y,z are owned by you or your subjects”, to “no one other than you or your subjects owns a territory in provinces x,y,z”.

That would certainly solve the issue I’ve come up against and seems realistic in terms of empire expansion. Rome (or others) wouldn’t stop their expansion because of one small remote unpopulated area of a larger region.

Or perhaps there could be an event for financial and political point cost that sends some settlers from somewhere else in your empire to the unoccupied region when it’s identified territories preventing mission completion, but I think I prefer the first one.

 

[Phili]

I agree with ohdear.
Unsettled territories shouldn't be counted; or I would add a condition where Army veterans can be *placed settlers. If it's an empty territory who's going to resist?

*placed as settlers.

 

[svalan_i_dalen]

I've played about 250 hours in last 15 days, with different countries and regions and this happened to me in every campaign at least 3 times. Must be fixed. Quick.

If i recall correctly it has been like this since launch. So don't have too much hope....

 

[olivenkranz]

If i recall correctly it has been like this since launch. So don't have too much hope....

If you have castra you can do it quickly enough.

 

[Godd_Howard]

No lgoic - just bugs.