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Accepting you have a problem is the first step.
 
I just learned that I'm not going to use Sleepy's advice again if I do play, since that's what got me caught up in a lie I couldn't keep but whatever.
Or you could of checked your own story for inconsistancies before publishing :p


Which reminds me: my initial admission to you of my traits should of gotten me lynched since I admitted to have spent 3 points on SA, while it costs different for villagers
 
Or you could of checked your own story for inconsistancies before publishing :p


Which reminds me: my initial admission to you of my traits should of gotten me lynched since I admitted to have spent 3 points on SA, while it costs different for villagers
As my pitiful attempts to be a double agent showed, I wasn't on top of my game. :p
 
From My point of view I think JM did all right as JL but when he was turned both made things too complicated and focused too much on Killing the JL. Since he was in the weaker pack he could have left that to the other pack.
 
The thing is after last night, after a red wolf died, the village had to logically aim more for a yellow baddie than a red one, not knowing anything. In actuality, the village did NOTHING, but even if they had tried it would have been hard. I mean I'd have lynched Audren as per my analysis. But after that, and him also being a red, I would then really have to had to go for yellows and then I can't lynch Hax or Jcan at that point. The assymetric pack size, the difference in it, was impossible to anticipate.
Sorry about the hunt. I singled you out for your healing powers. Hax was supposed to aldermanup and switch to Wagon with Audren and alxeu. Instead they decided to lynch a packmate and let the game drag on one more day -.-
I agee but they were No worse than the normal player zombies. If someone had bothered to look at notok's votes you could actually see she didnt go for any of her packmates.
Did you enjoy playing them?
I only pushed for the Euro lynch, and to be honest I couldn't do jack **** about a run up that happened in the last 10 minutes to the deadline. To think that those 2 lynches somehow caused the downfall of the goodies is absurd. But whatever, what do I know?

I just learned that I'm not going to use Sleepy's advice again if I do play, since that's what got me caught up in a lie I couldn't keep but whatever.
Where you went wrong was on the whole "DBW used protection on me the no-hunt". It takes more than a no hunt to get the village to lynch their JL spokesman. You left out options such as "no idea", "perhaps blessed", "distill", etc. The DBW lie is what prompted JCan to contact Wagonlitz in the first place as he knew for a fact that you were lying.

And I was VH scanned (again).. I wanted to save my own skin by taking Wagon out before he told about me. Seeing as you told me nothing about your pack I had limited information to work with.
 
I just learned that I'm not going to use Sleepy's advice again if I do play, since that's what got me caught up in a lie I couldn't keep but whatever.
What was that advice?

I think I probably would have given the book of knowledge to Wagon if he had asked.
Should have asked then. I didn't want to sound suspicious though, which is why I didn't ask. I did regret not asking repeatedly though.

With regard to councils then I wonder how it worked this game since there obviously were more than 5 in the same one.
I wanted to save my own skin by taking Wagon out before he told about me. Seeing as you told me nothing about your pack I had limited information to work with.
And how would you plan on getting me killed? Sacrifice a wolf?
 
Also I was really close to changing my superscan from Sleepy to Jackson when Jackson outed Torn; the reason I didn't was that I expected the mouthpiece to have a low life expectency.
 
You were to shoot Sleepy, and Jackson would pass on that information for Sleepy to use his cloak that day. That's why JM pushed for you to shoot him.
Ah just that; well I had seen through that. Which was part of why I suspected Jackson; he was far too eager in getting a mere cultist shot. If I were to shoot Sleepy then no way I'd do it a night when I'd told others I'd do it.
 
The original idea was to have a hunter shot you and then have the yellows hunt that hunter. Unfortunately there was no one present and jester actions wouldn't do us any good (De Chat got himself lynched anyway).

This was working under the assumption that you were planning on shooting me early, as I was more or less unlynchable. Definitely did not count on you wanting to hold on to your shot. It kept you personally alive till the end, but didn't help your side at all.
 
This was working under the assumption that you were planning on shooting me early, as I was more or less unlynchable. Definitely did not count on you wanting to hold on to your shot. It kept you personally alive till the end, but didn't help your side at all.
As I had explained to Jackson I wanted to take down a wolf if I were to use it, due to how it'd cost me my OEO. Now after you were revealed I was tempted multiple times, but again there was the risk of running into you using the cloak and then just losing the shot. I didn't want to risk that.
And I wouldn't say it didn't help my side. In the end we were screwed either way due to Hax turning and being alderman. We might have got a few more wolves, but I doubt we'd have got Hax.
 
I was perplexed that no one suspected that I robbed lemeard for the zombie hunter. I'm pretty sure he said he was a zombie hunter when he was robbed, but one would have to double check.
Never got around to ask, why did you rob Lemeard?
 
Never got around to ask, why did you rob Lemeard?

It got to the point where I felt it necessary to use my robber action, and Hax suggested Lemeard.
 
It got to the point where I felt it necessary to use my robber action, and Hax suggested Lemeard.
Why did you feel it necessary to use it?
 
Why did you feel it necessary to use it?

I was actually mistaken, looking back, it appears I was trying to get De Chat to jester my robber action, which would've turned it into either a werewolf hunt, or a hunter shot.

The werwolf hunt would've been fine, as it wouldn't reveal much, and hunter was a goodie only trait. People would've been confused, but I felt it would discourage people from lynching me.

Hax wanted me to use my robber powers that night.

Also, some of my posts following that night:

Robbed Lemeard. Am now a zombie hunter, which means one less person can target NotOK.12.
He had nothing else.

I robbed the seer. :eek:
 
The original idea was to have a hunter shot you and then have the yellows hunt that hunter. Unfortunately there was no one present and jester actions wouldn't do us any good (De Chat got himself lynched anyway).

This was working under the assumption that you were planning on shooting me early, as I was more or less unlynchable. Definitely did not count on you wanting to hold on to your shot. It kept you personally alive till the end, but didn't help your side at all.

How I got myself lynched??
 
not gonna lie, I had forgotten you were a cultist and wanted some goodie points. Sorry. :oops:

I was in a really bad position anyway but I felt that It was a bit premature. In fact the day after having me lynched could be better and we could have the goodies busy for one day more. The reason Wombat gave was rather absurd because everybody saw Tornadoli's posts about Aedan and it was quite obvious for everybody after Aedan being lynched. Anyway the pack won so its ok :p