Werewolf Lite CCCXIV: Titanic

[Rovsea]

If I still had my PMs, I'd post them. I'm relying on Al-Aziz and wolves on the hunt/scan orders. I ran out of space.

I know that Al-Aziz was consistently a hunt idea for several days before she was actually hunted (and even then I made a tricky decision to hunt her within the last hour).

 

[Deleted user]

What? Do you want me to change it?

"Rovsea surrenders, and the Titanic re-emerges safely, and in one piece. It was all just a dream"

Yes, and then Leo and Rose come down from the heavens and get married and make it back to New York and start a new life where they have five hundred kids and sixty bunnies and live the American dream. You will give the Titanic the ending it deserves or may the All Loving . . . love you slightly less. There.

 

[aedan777]

The only thing I can add about the hunts is that my gut said Xarkan or al Aziz was the seer the day we hunted Happycats, and on the day i was outed, i was pretty sure it wa sal Aziz, but the others decided on Wagonlitz instead, despite my object to hunting someone certain to not be the seer. I almost sniped the hunt, but decided not to, since they were the ones who'd have to live with the consequences of the hunt, not me.

 

[Deleted user]

The day I GMed (Day 3?), I know the seer scan was LatinKaiser

 

[LatinKaiser]

So here are all of the PMs I received throughout the game (save the one from alxeu detailing my role and the one from al-Aziz after she scanned me):

I am the Seer. I have scanned you and Wagon as villagers. I have scanned aedan and madchemist as wolves. So welcome to the JL!

Also, Cyms thinks I am the seer but I've not yet scanned him.

Hi! So I assume that you want me to do an outing later today? Also, the Cymsdale issue can be resolved with a simple scan. Please don't contact him if he's not in the JL; it won't end well.

He's already contacted me. I haven't told him anything, obviously.

Cyms, what were you thinking?

Did happycats send you the result, and have you sent me a seer scan?

Happy did. I haven't yet.

Scan Cymsdale

I'm happy with Rovsea as a candidate so please don't out anyone, LK.

Thanks.

I want Rovsea lynched today because I find him a good candidate. We shouldn't try to run anyone else up. (Please?)

Unfortunately I accidentally got DutchGuy lynched instead. o

I am the Seer, Cyms. I scanned you tonight to avoid any wolf shenanigans. Nice job wasting the village a scan tonight. :/

I have scanned MC as a wolf and aedan as a wolf.

The unknowns are Noco, Leon, Rovsea, and GuG.

How long is it until parity? 2 wolves out of 7. Two villagers die each day. 5 villagers to 2 wolves. 3 villagers to 2 wolves. (Parity.) So two days...

We must out MC tomorrow, unless he was autolynched for no vote, which he hopefully was. (Did he ever vote, alxeu?)

I want to scan Rovsea, but GuG is a viable choice. I don't like how that DG bandwagon cascaded yesterday. I am almost entirely sure that Rovsea is a wolf, because of the way votes keep slipping off him, but I could be tunnel-visioning. Thoughts?

Scan Rovsea

I am the Seer, Cyms. I scanned you tonight to avoid any wolf shenanigans. Nice job wasting the village a scan tonight. :/

I have scanned MC as a wolf and aedan as a wolf.

The unknowns are Noco, Leon, Rovsea, and GuG.

How long is it until parity? 2 wolves out of 7. Two villagers die each day. 5 villagers to 2 wolves. 3 villagers to 2 wolves. (Parity.) So two days...

We must out MC tomorrow, unless he was autolynched for no vote, which he hopefully was. (Did he ever vote, alxeu?)

I want to scan Rovsea, but GuG is a viable choice. I don't like how that DG bandwagon cascaded yesterday. I am almost entirely sure that Rovsea is a wolf, because of the way votes keep slipping off him, but I could be tunnel-visioning. Thoughts?

Scan Rovsea

I think MC subbed out, in which case I missed it. At any rate, Gen. Skobelev has been notified.

Ah. Thank you alxeu.

After rereading some,

Scan GuG

I will elaborate later, because it is 10:00 my time.

I am the Seer, Cyms. I scanned you tonight to avoid any wolf shenanigans. Nice job wasting the village a scan tonight. :/

I have scanned MC as a wolf and aedan as a wolf.

The unknowns are Noco, Leon, Rovsea, and GuG.

How long is it until parity? 2 wolves out of 7. Two villagers die each day. 5 villagers to 2 wolves. 3 villagers to 2 wolves. (Parity.) So two days...

We must out MC tomorrow, unless he was autolynched for no vote, which he hopefully was. (Did he ever vote, alxeu?)

I want to scan Rovsea, but GuG is a viable choice. I don't like how that DG bandwagon cascaded yesterday. I am almost entirely sure that Rovsea is a wolf, because of the way votes keep slipping off him, but I could be tunnel-visioning. Thoughts?

Scan Rovsea

Thank you for the scan, although I already knew you were the seer, as I told you.

In any case, can you please tell me what order all your previous scans were done? It would help paint a clearer picture.

I just wanted to confirm.

N0: aedan was scanned. (wolf)
N1: Wagonlitz was scanned. (villager)
N2: MC was scanned. (wolf)
N3: LK was scanned. (villager)
N4: Cymdale was scanned. (villager)
N5: ? I want to scan GuG because of his vote record.

As a clarification: we are going after either Rovsea or GuG and someone (Latin if votes accrue on him too much) will out Gen. Chemist at 2300 or so GMT. If there are problems with this plan, feel free to point them out.

If I'm hunted, I think you should go after Rovs and GuG but I don't have any inside info on that. o Anyway, thank you guys.

I probably won't be online around 23:00 GMT, so I think that it would be best if Cymsdale did the outing.

Okay. Sounds good.

This was all the day before al-Aziz was hunted.

I probably won't be online around 23:00 GMT, so I think that it would be best if Cymsdale did the outing.

We should be tying today. GUG and Leondark sound good?

Should we TIE GUG and Rovsea instead? Rovsea seems really suspicious?

If you are willing, I will go for that.

Should we TIE GUG and Rovsea instead? Rovsea seems really suspicious?

You make the announcement though, that will give it more weight if it appears it's not just unilateral from me.

Alright LK, here's the deal: I don't trust Rovsea or Noco, and I want both dead to make sure we win this. The fact that you guys never considered me a candidate for the lynch yesterday makes me think you trust me, which is good, because I want to win this as much as you do.

So,Noco has to vote Rovsea, and then I also vote Rovsea to make sure it's a tie they can't escape from. We won't let them snipe themselves out of danger this time.
Get on IRC as soon as you can, I want to know if you are willing to trust me in this: I will keep my vote on rovsea and I expect you to keep your vote on noco.

I can only hope that whoever is the wolf will surrender in that case.

I also spoke with Leondark and Noco on IRC a few hours ago, but sadly I don't have the logs.

 

[Arkasas]

Pretty sure everyone currently on already signed up, but you never know. Join the CAWZ!

 

[EUROO7]

If I still had my PMs, I'd post them. I'm relying on Al-Aziz and wolves on the hunt/scan orders. I ran out of space.

 

[Wagonlitz]

I cannot believe you guys almost threw away a game we pretty much had in the bag before I died.

Cyms, what were you thinking?

So it was you who made Aziz focus on Cyms? He was obviously not a wolf so she should have done as she and I had agreed on and scan Rovsea.

Unfortunately I accidentally got DutchGuy lynched instead. o

Yeah that was really idiotic. DG was obviously not a wolf whereas Rovsea smelled quite heavily; it wasn't for nothing he was up for scan the night after MC was scanned, but then you managed to make a string of highly suspicious posts and Aziz and I decided to have you scanned instead.

 

[Cymsdale]

Don't know why I was scanned. I told Aziz I knew she was seer. If I was a wolf, it's not like scanning me would protect her. I don't play that fancy, I would simply hunt her.

 

[Gen. Skobelev]

Congrats to the winners and thanks for GM. Rovsea almost made it despite people having him on their radar for days. I'm pretty impressed how Noco kept his head cool when he was on the chopping block, nice work there. And yeah, scanning Cymsdale was pretty redundant at that point but I also understand not wanting unscanned people in the loop. Better to keep scanning others, use him as mouthpiece as he can be sacrificed and if seer dies, remind everybody he's not scanned.

 

[Rovsea]

I cannot believe you guys almost threw away a game we pretty much had in the bag before I died.

So it was you who made Aziz focus on Cyms? He was obviously not a wolf so she should have done as she and I had agreed on and scan Rovsea.
Yeah that was really idiotic. DG was obviously not a wolf whereas Rovsea smelled quite heavily; it wasn't for nothing he was up for scan the night after MC was scanned, but then you managed to make a string of highly suspicious posts and Aziz and I decided to have you scanned instead.

Don't worry Wagon, everybody made poor choices on nightly orders, but itwas still an entertaining game nonetheless.

 

[LatinKaiser]

I really wanted Cyms scanned because of what happened in the last Lite with the JL. Oh well.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Don't know why I was scanned. I told Aziz I knew she was seer. If I was a wolf, it's not like scanning me would protect her. I don't play that fancy, I would simply hunt her.

Yeah I was also flabbergaster when I learned you had been scanned---I was kept in the loop by Aziz---since there was no way a wolf who had guessed the seer wouldn't have hunted her immediately. And thinking of how Aziz immediately when I was scanned mentioned that she wanted you and Rovsea scanned and that I also wanted Rovsea scanned I have no idea why he kept not being scanned.

Don't worry Wagon, everybody made poor choices on nightly orders, but itwas still an entertaining game nonetheless.

Actually had you listened to aedan and hunted Aziz and not me not only would you have got the seer, but the JL would have been consisting of a single guy and you would have heavily incriminated Cymsdale since it was the first night after he had contacted Aziz.

 

[al-Aziz]

I really wanted Cyms scanned because of what happened in the last Lite with the JL. Oh well.

This. I was too paranoid.

 

[Noco19]

Congrats to the winners and thanks for GM. Rovsea almost made it despite people having him on their radar for days. I'm pretty impressed how Noco kept his head cool when he was on the chopping block, nice work there. And yeah, scanning Cymsdale was pretty redundant at that point but I also understand not wanting unscanned people in the loop. Better to keep scanning others, use him as mouthpiece as he can be sacrificed and if seer dies, remind everybody he's not scanned.

Thank you.

 

[al-Aziz]

I deleted most of my PMs but for some reason I have one from the day Wagon was hunted:

The scan result came in... and madchemist is a wolf. After all that effort...

Who should we out first, do you think? Or should we wait until we have another JL member? I think we ought to out MC first to gain some credibility.

I'm sorry for telling you to try to save madchemist. I really thought he was a villager.

I actually think aedan is a better outing, since MC firstly may have me hunted the night he dies and secondly he will be doing analysis until his outing---and it won't be too flawed.
But I really should do the outing today, so that the village really can get more to work with.

Who are you scanning? Leondark might be a good scan: On day 1 he gets the gorganwagon going which saves MC, though MC was unlikely to hang that day.
On day 2 he bandwagoned brovahkiin and voted just after aedan so could be part of a large sell out.
Alternatively Noco bandwagoned even more on day 2 and had a revenge vote throwaway on DG on day 1, so he might be a newb wolf.

LK might also be a decent scan.

I feel like chemist is just trying to save his fur...

This is just strange and even though he was asked he never gave an explanation for that post. It might have been a slip.

Oh no, we lost the romantic lead!

And this looks a bit like videonfan.

In all I think LK is a decent scan and perhaps better than Leon and Noco.

It's funny, in my standing scan list I've got LK next, then Xarkan, then Leondark. So I'm going to scan LK.

This could be an alibi:

Have there really only been two votes so far today?

Vote LatinKaiser

I got the impression yesterday that he and Rovsea had some sort of weird thing going on which made me feel like they might be packmates. I'd be happy to see either one (or both) get run up today.

Then LI responded with:

Please explain this "thing."I think I'll vote Wagonlitz. He seems to be a bit more jumpy than usual.

When you challenge him, he responds with:

You have been suspicious, IMO. Protecting MC, then accusing me, then realizing that your case on me was flawed, and then MC votes me. If you are a wolf, then MC would be a likely packmate.

(Which is a flawed case.)

Yesterday aedan seemed as though he was trying to deflect attention from someone, because be mentioned LK without actually pursuing him as a candidate:

I don't have the rest of the PM. o

 

[madchemist]

I deleted most of my PMs but for some reason I have one from the day Wagon was hunted:


I don't have the rest of the PM. o

Nice to see that my analysis is sort of trusted even when it really shouldn't be. :laugh:

 

[Deleted user]

I deleted most of my PMs but for some reason I have one from the day Wagon was hunted:


I don't have the rest of the PM. o

For shame!

Also, props to Noco for winning his first game, I bestow upon him the title of Honorable Mention for Newb of the Year since I refuse to give up my title just yet. (Even if it was only given to me by LK.) Thanks to the GM for running the game.

Also, I learned that sometimes randomly guessing and triggering a bandwagon on someone does kill a wolf. By the time deadline rolled around, I honestly though brovah was a villager, but I wasn't going to hop off the bandwagon I started.

 

[Cymsdale]

Also, I learned that sometimes randomly guessing and triggering a bandwagon on someone does kill a wolf. By the time deadline rolled around, I honestly though brovah was a villager, but I wasn't going to hop off the bandwagon I started.

More often then you'd think. You see, wolves love to be the "only sane man" and talk the village down from a villager bandwagon. They can often coax the lynch onto another villager who "deserves" to die more. As a bonus, that formerly bandwagon end villager has a stigma of being saved.

However, if the bandwagon is a on a wolf, they are put in a more awkward situation.

 

[Wagonlitz]

I deleted most of my PMs but for some reason I have one from the day Wagon was hunted:


I don't have the rest of the PM. o

I think this is the entire chain:

The scan result came in... and madchemist is a wolf. After all that effort...

Who should we out first, do you think? Or should we wait until we have another JL member? I think we ought to out MC first to gain some credibility.

I'm sorry for telling you to try to save madchemist. I really thought he was a villager.

I actually think aedan is a better outing, since MC firstly may have me hunted the night he dies and secondly he will be doing analysis until his outing---and it won't be too flawed.
But I really should do the outing today, so that the village really can get more to work with.

Who are you scanning? Leondark might be a good scan: On day 1 he gets the gorganwagon going which saves MC, though MC was unlikely to hang that day.
On day 2 he bandwagoned brovahkiin and voted just after aedan so could be part of a large sell out.
Alternatively Noco bandwagoned even more on day 2 and had a revenge vote throwaway on DG on day 1, so he might be a newb wolf.

LK might also be a decent scan.

I feel like chemist is just trying to save his fur...

This is just strange and even though he was asked he never gave an explanation for that post. It might have been a slip.

Oh no, we lost the romantic lead!

And this looks a bit like videonfan.

In all I think LK is a decent scan and perhaps better than Leon and Noco.

It's funny, in my standing scan list I've got LK next, then Xarkan, then Leondark. So I'm going to scan LK.

This could be an alibi:

Have there really only been two votes so far today?

Vote LatinKaiser

I got the impression yesterday that he and Rovsea had some sort of weird thing going on which made me feel like they might be packmates. I'd be happy to see either one (or both) get run up today.

Then LI responded with:

Please explain this "thing."I think I'll vote Wagonlitz. He seems to be a bit more jumpy than usual.

When you challenge him, he responds with:

You have been suspicious, IMO. Protecting MC, then accusing me, then realizing that your case on me was flawed, and then MC votes me. If you are a wolf, then MC would be a likely packmate.

(Which is a flawed case.)

Yesterday aedan seemed as though he was trying to deflect attention from someone, because be mentioned LK without actually pursuing him as a candidate:

The 'case' on MC isn't really that great, he was saved yesterday/the hunted payer was after him. Nothing to really clear him, but with so many of the players in this game being relatively new, I'd rather not lynch useful players on mild hunches while the seer is alive. Same for Wagonlitz, though he has been acting slightly wolfish at least. Still wouldn't want either of them lynched yet, for the given reasons, and that the voters currently on them hardly inspire confidence. The vote on Cymsdale is based on poor reasoning. Rovsea and Latinkaiser are decent though. Rovsea's been more active, but he sure jumped on the Madchemist 'case' quickly.

Vote Rovsea

Latin should be the main contender with Rovsea I say, and maybe a zombie up there too.

Just in case I misread my standing scan thingy,

Scan Latin Kaiser

Good find; LK most definitely doesn't look good so I agree he is a really good scan. I will out aedan later tonight European time; in around 4--5 hours.
By the way if LK is the last wolf then please let me call the game over; I have always wanted to do that.