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What about the war of 1812 between USA and UK?

The War of 1812 is one of my personal favorite wars, and while I understand that it wasn't all that relevant to the war in Europe, it would be nice if we got a super sized DLC that allowed us to play it out some time after release
 
What about the war of 1812 between USA and UK?

To show the weakness of the USA compared to the UK at the time, the UK was able to wait 2 years (in 1814) to actually do a serious counter-offensive, because the USA was simply trying to make use of the war in Europe. Despite this, the UK easily managed to wait until France was dealt with, then it focused on the USA and defeated them pretty quickly.

Essentially, the war of 1812 happened after the Napoleonic Wars.
 
To show the weakness of the USA compared to the UK at the time, the UK was able to wait 2 years (in 1814) to actually do a serious counter-offensive, because the USA was simply trying to make use of the war in Europe. Despite this, the UK easily managed to wait until France was dealt with, then it focused on the USA and defeated them pretty quickly.

Essentially, the war of 1812 happened after the Napoleonic Wars.



That's open to debate. I think it would be more accurate to call the war a draw. Essentially the U.S. failed to conquer Canada and GB agreed to quit pressing American sailors. Both sides quickly realized that it was in both nation's interest to return to peaceful relations and trade and the two have been staunch allies ever since.
 
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That's open to debate. I think it would be more accurate to call the war a draw. Essentially the U.S. failed to conquer Canada and GB agreed to quit pressing American sailors. Both sides quickly realized that it was in boths nation's interest to return to peaceful relations and trade and the two have been staunch allies ever since.

Well that's not quite true. It was only after WW2 that the USA and the UK became great allies. In 1936 for example, there was a real threat that the USA could possibly invade Canada and then move on for attempted naval invasions of Britain itself (which would've likely failed given the UK's strong navy). But anyway, on with the discussion.
 
I'm fine with the colonies being left out. When you get down to the nub of it the colonies were simply a source of natural resources and money through trade and the income that is generated through naval control and dominance abstractly reflects this.
 
That's open to debate. I think it would be more accurate to call the war a draw. Essentially the U.S. failed to conquer Canada and GB agreed to quit pressing American sailors. Both sides quickly realized that it was in both nation's interest to return to peaceful relations and trade and the two have been staunch allies ever since.

Actually, the British agreed to stop pressing American soldiers about 6 months into the war which, if you take into account travel times, basically means as soon as they got the request.

In terms of American War Aims verses British War Aims, it was essentially 'Britain gets what her minimum requirements were, America doesn't get anything.'
 
Actually, the British agreed to stop pressing American soldiers about 6 months into the war which, if you take into account travel times, basically means as soon as they got the request.

In terms of American War Aims verses British War Aims, it was essentially 'Britain gets what her minimum requirements were, America doesn't get anything.'


Well I didn't say it was not one of the most pointless wars the U.S. has fought; and we have fought several. Also the British did agree to end the pressing of American sailors after it became plain that the U.S. was willing to go to war over it as you acknowledge so I wouldn't say the U.S. got nothing since that was their main complaint.
 
I expect modders to add in North America pretty quickly. (There was a mod for Empires in Arms that did this on a vastly reduced scale from the Euro map).

Latin America would be fascinating but the political situation there was probably too nuanced for this game to portray in any useful manner, plus the definitive disintegration of the Spanish empire happened after the Napoleonic era as someone already pointed out.
 
For the Brit, the War of 1812 is at most an inconvenience. Losing Canada would have given them problems projecting naval power globally, but Napoleon on the European continent was a much greater threat. The US-UK war happened because ambitious American politicians saw an opportunity to quickly make substantial gains while the Brits were occupied. The effort was of course, doomed, largely by their own incompetence -- the Americans did not really have a professional standing army at the time and the bulk of its commanders were ill-equipped political appointees.

Require the British to siphon off some naval resources and a few troops and that should be sufficient. The real action for them was in Spain.