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ArtFart said:
But why stop adding provinces for everyone when a few minority don't read the very obvious warnings posted literally everywhere about new patches.
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We had a dev saying in a thread couple weeks ago that we *could* get new provinces, but it wasn't on their plans yet. Which is why I asked again because I find impossible to touch South America and not add 1-2 Andes wastelands; no amount of OP/memey mission trees will compensate the lack of those wastelands.
 
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Johan said:
South American needs another visit with more content.
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Honest question, why? Who is dying to play XYZ TAG in SA, or can't wait until a SA native gets unique reforms/mechanics/religion/missions?

I can agree that Incas and other Andian TAGs need some love, but SA as a whole? I fail to see how that would benefit anyone, not even the players that enjoy colonizing and playing on the New World (like me).
 
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EarlKonrad said:
Honest question, why? Who is dying to play XYZ TAG in SA, or can't wait until a SA native gets unique reforms/mechanics/religion/missions?

I can agree that Incas and other Andian TAGs need some love, but SA as a whole? I fail to see how that would benefit anyone, not even the players that enjoy colonizing and playing on the New World (like me).
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I think he’s mainly talking about the Incas and aztecs
 
Johan said:
A few more immersion packs

Middle East need another visit with more content
South American needs another visit with more content.
Some major powers need more indepth missions.

after that, I dunno..
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Thanks for telling us directly johan, but do you know why we can't react to your post
 
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There's only two dlc I can see in the near future: One for the Middle East/Caucasus/Central Asia/Pontic Steppe and one for Latin America and colonial/post colonial countries.
 
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Fliits said:
  • Update on some of the older disasters (Janissary Coup, Time of Troubles, Wars of Religion, English Civil War, estates seeking independence) to stand on par with the threat that more up to date disasters pose
    • I often feel that the game is too forgiving on players who "beat the early game." Historically, most kingdoms and empires faced just as much opposition from within than without, but for some reason after you consolidate your holdings during the first 20-30 years in game, the only threat you might face is a death by boredom if you choose to not expand that much.
    • Maybe it's a problem with how diplomacy works in EUIV, with the AI creating vast continent spanning networks of alliances before 1500 that usually lock all methods of realistic expansion, but I feel an issue on the same scale, if not even larger, is the unfaltering stability of the in-game countries. There has never been an empire that lasted even for 200 years without facing absolutely no crisis within that time (that we know of.)
    • Upscaling the existing disasters to make it so European hegemons like France, Russia, England and the Ottomans have to sometimes face an issue at home rather than at the front would do wonders in making the game feel more dynamic overall. The AI mishandling its economy shouldn't be the most common way for great powers to collapse.
  • General improvements to the late game
    • As stated above, the great powers in game consistently almost never collapse or even lose relevance after 1600. Having some form of in game mechanic to force the player to stay on their feet even after becoming an economical and military hegemon (not the mechanic) is more than appropriate in my opinion.
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I feel like this is definitely more EUV material - I hope it has much more in-depth mechanics with statecraft and administration that would allow crises in large nations to occur dynamically.
 
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God we are beating a dead horse now. Now people want to go again to the middle east. Do the whole round again since Craddle of Civilization.

Jesus just let the game die... And then people complain that for EU5 you would have to pay for new content when you are asking precisely to pay for new content on regions that already have content but...on eu4.

Just get it done with an release EU5 and work on content on a better base game.

Or are we gonna be in 2050, with CK8, Victoria 4, HoI9 and EU4 patch 20.1 new scandinavian missoon trees!
 
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cristofolmc said:
God we are beating a dead horse now. Now people want to go again to the middle east. Do the whole round again since Craddle of Civilization.

Jesus just let the game die... And then people complain that for EU5 you would have to pay for new content when you are asking precisely to pay for new content on regions that already have content but...on eu4.

Just get it done with an release EU5 and work on content on a better base game.

Or are we gonna be in 2050, with CK8, Victoria 4, HoI9 and EU4 patch 20.1 new scandinavian missoon trees!
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Yes, they do. There is precedent for areas which already got DLC getting missions, case in point: Slavs, specially Novgorod and Moscow.

I do share your sentiment that EU IV has overstayed his welcome and should be put to rest.
 
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cristofolmc said:
And then people complain that for EU5 you would have to pay for new content
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For EU5 you would have to rebuy the base game.

And then the new implementations of everything that got cut for schedule reasons because the 4-5 transition broke everything that touches development or monarch power.
 
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cristofolmc said:
God we are beating a dead horse now. Now people want to go again to the middle east. Do the whole round again since Craddle of Civilization.

Jesus just let the game die... And then people complain that for EU5 you would have to pay for new content when you are asking precisely to pay for new content on regions that already have content but...on eu4.

Just get it done with an release EU5 and work on content on a better base game.

Or are we gonna be in 2050, with CK8, Victoria 4, HoI9 and EU4 patch 20.1 new scandinavian missoon trees!
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If Imperator, CK3 , the reddit posts from people who played the leak is anything to go by then EU5 wont be the game people who want a sequel think it will be. So why not make this game better before that happens.
 
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I like wars and maps said:
If Imperator, CK3 , the reddit posts from people who played the leak is anything to go by then EU5 wont be the game people who want a sequel think it will be. So why not make this game better before that happens.
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Speaking only for myself, my only expectation for EU5 is that it won't run terribly. I am otherwise completely ambivalent on how they design the next game. I don't care if they keep the gamey map painting mode or move to the M&T model. Just want something fresh.

The reason they should not keep "making this game better" is that IMHO very very few additions to the game in the last 2-4 years have improved the game for me. Meanwhile, the patches destroy performance.
 
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Zaddy said:
Speaking only for myself, my only expectation for EU5 is that it won't run terribly. I am otherwise completely ambivalent on how they design the next game. I don't care if they keep the gamey map painting mode or move to the M&T model. Just want something fresh.

The reason they should not keep "making this game better" is that IMHO very very few additions to the game in the last 2-4 years have improved the game for me. Meanwhile, the patches destroy performance.
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You say the patches as if Emperor and Leviathan arent the main reason.
 
I like wars and maps said:
If Imperator, CK3 , the reddit posts from people who played the leak is anything to go by then EU5 wont be the game people who want a sequel think it will be. So why not make this game better before that happens.
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It would be lovely to see EU 4 get better before the eventual move to EU 5. That being said, I don't think it would be controversial to say that with each new improvement and fix they make they break something else, be they new bugs, systems outright not working properly, terrible balance or terrible performance. While making the game better might be the goal, if they succeed or not is highly subjective.
 
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Could do a lot with colonial nations within the timeline both the American Revolution and Simon Bolivar Happened
 
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