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EU4 - Development Diary - 7th of May 2019

Hi there and welcome to another dev diary for EU4. I am Pierre, I’ve been part of the EU4 Content Design team since December, and I feel honoured to be able to give you your first peeks at the new content we are making for the big European update and expansion we have planned for the end of the year.

This is the first of several dev diaries that will focus on the map changes we have made, giving large parts of the European map a much-needed revamp. I’ll be starting with Germany (which for purely arbitrary reasons shall for today include Switzerland and Bohemia, but not Austria). As @neondt stated in an earlier dev diary, our aim was not to recreate Voltaire’s Nightmare or to populate the entire HRE map with OPMs (this would have been eminently possible) but rather to create more depth and more interesting gameplay situations within it, righting various wrongs and finding ways to better represent the various dynamics of the empire’s territories along the way.

As with previous patches, all map changes shown here will be part of the free patch. In previous map previews, we have often revealed the idea groups of the new tags, and rest assured we will be adding new ideas to replace the generic German ones. However, the work to do so still lies in the future, so in the meantime I’d just like to give a shoutout to this thread – if you want to know what we are looking for in terms of threads suggesting new idea groups, look no further.

So without further ado…

South Germany

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The lack of primogeniture in Bavaria until the 1500s led to several splits of the Duchy in the 14th century before its reunification in 1503. At game start, Wittelsbach Bavaria is divided between Munich, Landshut and Ingolstadt, who will have to fight it out for the duchy (or hope they inherit it). However, Bavaria can console itself with the fact that, once united, it will have considerably more resources at its disposal than in 1.28, with new provinces in Innbaiern (modern Innviertel, ceded to Austria in 1779; capital: Braunau), Freising, Rosenheim and Donauwörth (which has Swabian culture and is a releasable tag). We hope for Bavaria to become a strong power within the HRE in the next patch. To make this more likely, we will be adding DHEs such as this one to the Bavarian sub-duchies:

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Also new to Bavaria is the inclusion of Regensburg as a Free City and Passau as a Bishopric. At present, the latter is a vassal under Munich, since historically Munich’s territories more or less surrounded Passau and we do not wish the latter to be easy food for Bohemia or Austria. Finally, Salzburg (already in the Bavarian geographic area) now has Bavarian culture, which more correctly represents its situation in 1444 – it was part of the Bavarian Circle and was only annexed by Austria as late as 1805.

Moving south, the large province of Tirol has been split in several pieces, with the independent County of Bregenz (currently Austrian culture) to the west representing one of the more challenging starting positions in the HRE (they have 5 development and an heir with low legitimacy). The main province has been further split between Inntal (capital: Innsbruck) and Etschtal (capital: Meran).

Switzerland, too, has seen a makeover. The Swiss Confederacy was a growing power in the 15th century but was not yet close to controlling all of what would become Switzerland. Whilst we elected not to start with individual independent Swiss Cantons (this would simply make them easy prey for Austria, Milan, Savoy and Burgundy), we did split off the largest independent force, the Three Leagues. In the process, Graubünden was split to become Illanz and Chur, and Fribourg/Freiburg was added west of Bern.

Finally, Swabia has seen considerable changes. Firstly, Austria’s holdings in Swabia (or “Further Austria” are better represented, with Breisgau now being ruled by Austria, as it was in history. Baden has been compensated with the addition of Durlach (which would later become Karlsruhe) to its north. Wurttemberg, which was the largest territorial state in Swabia but somehow is an OPM with 6 development in EU4, now has a new province in the form of Urach (capital: Reutlingen) and a substantial buff in terms of development. Additionally, Ravensburg has been swapped for the Free City of Konstanz, Alsace is now the Bishopric of Strasbourg, the new tag of Mulhouse has been added to represent the Decapolis in southern Alsace, and Ulm is no longer wildly mislocated.

To add a bit more interest to the area, states of Swabian culture will now be able to form Swabia.

Central Germany and Bohemia

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Saxony has been given several new provinces but has also been split in two. Like Bavaria, Saxony did not have primogeniture; unlike Bavaria, Saxony never fully resolved this issue. As a result, in the 15th century, it was split several times, with the end result being the Treaty of Leipzig in 1485, where Saxony was split between the two brothers Ernest and Albert on lines similar to those displayed on the map above, except that both continued calling themselves Saxony and Ernest (Thuringia) gained Wittenberg and the Electorate. Thuringia/Ernestine Saxony later lost the Electorate to (Albertine) Saxony and split into many, many pieces. This all lies in the future in 1444 (via several planned DHEs), so the current division is based on that in 1445 between the brothers Friedrich and Wilhelm. Thuringia starts under PU by Saxony, but there will be several events which will make it a difficult subject to keep quiet for Saxony. New provinces are Zwickau in Saxony and three in Thuringia (previously one province with low development), which is now much better represented by Erfurt (Mainz has a core on this province to represent certain historical complexities), Weimar and Coburg (Franconian culture).

Franconia has seen a few more provinces and tags added. Most importantly, Franconia itself is now a formable tag if you manage to unite the Franconian lands. This is however easier said than done as Franconia now includes two Free Cities and lands owned by strong neighbours (i.e. Coburg by Thuringia). Würzburg, the titular holders of the duchy, remain the strongest power, with a new province in Fulda (Rhenish i.e. Hessian culture) and vassal in Bamberg. Their main rivals, Ansbach, now have Bayreuth as their junior partners in PU. They are now also bordered on the west by Rothenburg, another new Free City. Finally, the large province of Mainz has been split and the new Franconian culture province of Aschaffenburg has been added.

Moving West, @Ofaloaf did some pyrotechnics to the lower Rhineland map to make space to squeeze in Jülich (owned by Berg). The Palatinate has a new province in Zweibrücken, and although Hessen has no new provinces, its provinces have been renamed to Oberhessen and Niederhessen, with Niederhessen (Kassel) now the capital and more affluent province.

Finally, Bohemia, like other regions, has gained some new provinces. Lusatia has been split in three (with Oberlausitz split between Bautzen and Görlitz). This has allowed us to make Lusatia an area and releasable tag, with the provinces now having Sorbian culture. Silesia, as you can see, has been split in two between Glogau and Opole. Silesia the tag still exists and can be formed by a Silesian country that owns all of Silesia and is not a subject. Bohemia and Moravia have seen three more provinces added, with space being made for Jindrichuv Hradec, Pardubice and Ostrava. Although this is quite a few new provinces, we split the development of existing provinces to make room for them, so Bohemian starting development is not noticeably higher; we will of course be paying attention to the balance side of things to avoid Bohemia becoming the Ottomans of Europe.

Northern Germany

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We restrained ourselves from adding too many provinces to Brandenburg, mainly because this was not a very densely inhabited area and in 1444 few would have predicted that it would later rise to power. However, they did gain a new province in Brandenburg (the city) and are stronger than most of their neighbours, so if they can secure the alliances needed to keep the likes of Bohemia away, they are still well-placed to expand – especially since the sale of Neumark will now also grant them Dramburg.

Pomerania had a bit of a situation with their lack of primogeniture too (I seem to be repeating myself here). In fact, they split many, many times and were united much more seldom than they were divided. We went for a fairly conservative split and made them into Wolgast in the west and Stettin in the east, with new provinces in Wolgast and Rügen. A united Pomerania will of course be able to form Pomerania. Also, Rügen is a releasable tag that, in homage to Klaus Störtebecker and the hotbed of piracy that was the Baltic, will have the opportunity of going pirate if you own Golden Century.

The smaller states to the west of Brandenburg have each gained provinces, with Mecklenburg now correctly owning Stargard, Lüneburg’s significance better represented by the addition of Celle, and Magdeburg now owning the bishop’s summer residence of Halle. Braunschweig (previously one of the largest provinces of the HRE) has had the city of Göttingen split off it to the south (still owned by the Brunswick tag though) and is bordered to the east by the new Free City of Goslar, and the tag Verden now also owns a province called Verden as well as Stade.

Further west, Cologne too has an extra province in Paderborn (which is a releasable tag) and Berg is our new bordergore galore tag, owning Bielefeld as well as Berg and Jülich. Last but not least, Dortmund has also been added as a Free City.

Another change that we made in the north is in the cultures. There have been many calls for a “Lower Saxon” culture, and we have heeded these calls by splitting the Westphalian culture. Conveniently, this allows us to make the Kingdom of Hannover into the formable for the Lower Saxons and Westphalia into that for the Westphalians and Rhenish peoples.

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As a final note, I’d add that our focus on the Holy Roman Empire gives us a good opportunity to add flavour events for the tags populating it. I’ve been loving reading through the suggestions in threads such as this one. Please keep them coming, and if there is any interesting historical event you would like to see in the game, feel free to ping me (I can also read German and French, so you can send me links in those languages too).

That’s it for now. Next week, I’ll be presenting a few of the German mission trees we have prepared so far.
 
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As an inhabitant of Moravia I must say I am absolutelly thrilled that my home region/country is getting an extra provincie.. however, I find naming it Ostrava quite odd because most of the region doesnt (and didnt) have any connection to the city whatsoever. Most of the province lies in the historic region of Uherské Hradiště or simply Hradiště, which I can tell due to owning an academic historical atlas of the Czech lands.
 
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Despite my love for new provinces, can I just mention I am still saddened that Kladsko area is part of Silesian province and with the newly added provinces Hradec as a city isnt even in the province anymore........... with my family living there since the eu4 startdate, it sure hurts XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
So I would rather do this, add one province up north cutting a little bit off rudohori naming it Boleslavsko and leave Hradec where it was, since Pardubice rose to a city comparable with Hradec only after eu4 timeframe...View attachment 478630
Kladsko is a sad thing .. I mean the region has even been connected to the archbisphoric of Prague until recently (1972 to be specific).
 
I'd like to see Lower Saxon be renamed 'Niedersachsen', but that's just me being nitpicky. (Yes, I know, it's literally just translating it back into German. Shush.)
 
Very glad to see that you implemented Thuringia being in a PU under Saxony in 1444, which was basically the best way for the game to cover the situation there at that point (Thuringia had only just been reunited with Saxony in 1440 and would split off again in 1445). When you say there are several DHEs for Saxony, will that include the splitting of Ernestine Saxony into the mini-duchies you mentioned?

Also it's good to see Baden and Wurttemberg get two provinces each so they stand out as the major players in Swabia.
 
I noticed that in the 1453 start date in game currently Styria isn't just free from Austria, it's the bigger nation of the two, though it doesn't exist at any other start date, I also recently learned that Tirol and Styria share a few unique missions in their tree about usurping Austria's position as the leader of the House of Hapsburg and getting to unite the Hapsburgs as a decision.
Strangely Tirol has German ideas, while Austria and Styria both have Austrian ideas, though, and Styrian independence doesn't exactly seem that well planned out considering they just spawn into existence on January 1st 1452 and stop existing all together on November 24th 1457 if you scroll through the start dates.

If Austria really was fully unified in 1444 and split apart later, perhaps something like the Fall of the House of Hapsburg or whatever could be implemented as a disaster for Austria to deal with similar to the Castilian Civil War or something, make it a difficult disaster, likely to lead to Austria fracturing and needing to be reunited again unless the player can manage it perfectly. A little bit of challenge to upset Austria's otherwise strong position.
 
Well, while I am very happy about the extra province in the Anhalt/Magdeburg region, I am sad, that it is Halle and not Halberstadt, as the "Hochstift Halberstadt" was just as important as the city of Halle, although the bishop of Magdeburg prefered the latter. Oh well, guess I'll just rename the province in each and every one of my playthroughs :p

a few Questions:
-Why is Ruppin not a Vassal-Tag under Brandenburg? Would give much flavor to the stubborn counts of the region. You even got an event for that already.
-Why is Schleswig still not split into two provinces? It's big enough, and the region has enough historical diversity and border-/culturechanges to justify it.
-Will Goslar get a modifier, regarding it's highly important Mine? Especially for copper and other "coloured metals" it was very important from the start to the end of the game.
-Could you make the provinceborders on the Oder (east german river) run more along with it? Historically that river would be what seperated the regions, and it makes for nicer borders as well.
-Would it be possible, as suggested by others as well, to make certain cultures switch culture group by event or decision? This would be fitting for cultures like Sorbian, Frisian or Silesian, as the got integrated into the overarching "german" culture, during the timeframe of the game. I don't know about Pommeranian culture, but if most people here suggest, that they were more slawic than german in the beginning of the game as well, then they could fit this description too.

Very happy about the Franconia (Franken) tag though. Forming them will be one of the challenges I will strife for first, when the update releases.

I probalby missed some nitpicks, might add them, when I am more awake.
 
Well I dunno about you, but why isn't Prussia a nice Prussian Blue? I don't think any country has that particular colour, and the grey doesn't like to mesh with map modes when it is quite similar to the default grey.
 
Literally the only thing I want with regards to Austria is for the game to not have two unique characters named Ladislaus the Posthumous. If splitting Austria into personal unions and then clubfisting some way for Ladislaus to claim his throne via event would work, that'd be great.

I would be quite happy to see Paradox re-embrace DHEs. I know some people don't like the Union with Aragon of the Burgundian Inheritence, but I'd much rather see the early game get a bit hamfisted to both represent the 1444 start date accurately, but also steer the game towards a rational outcome based on preexsting conditions that the game cannot properly model.
 
Well, while I am very happy about the extra province in the Anhalt/Magdeburg region, I am sad, that it is Halle and not Halberstadt, as the "Hochstift Halberstadt" was just as important as the city of Halle, although the bishop of Magdeburg prefered the latter. Oh well, guess I'll just rename the province in each and every one of my playthroughs :p

a few Questions:
-Why is Ruppin not a Vassal-Tag under Brandenburg? Would give much flavor to the stubborn counts of the region. You even got an event for that already.
-Why is Schleswig still not split into two provinces? It's big enough, and the region has enough historical diversity and border-/culturechanges to justify it.
-Will Goslar get a modifier, regarding it's highly important Mine? Especially for copper and other "coloured metals" it was very important from the start to the end of the game.
-Could you make the provinceborders on the Oder (east german river) run more along with it? Historically that river would be what seperated the regions, and it makes for nicer borders as well.
-Would it be possible, as suggested by others as well, to make certain cultures switch culture group by event or decision? This would be fitting for cultures like Sorbian, Frisian or Silesian, as the got integrated into the overarching "german" culture, during the timeframe of the game. I don't know about Pommeranian culture, but if most people here suggest, that they were more slawic than german in the beginning of the game as well, then they could fit this description too.

Very happy about the Franconia (Franken) tag though. Forming them will be one of the challenges I will strife for first, when the update releases.

I probalby missed some nitpicks, might add them, when I am more awake.
Wouldn’t it be more historic for Sorbian provinces to be potentionally converted to Saxon (or another German culture) instead ? It’s not like all inhabitants of Lusitania consider themselves Sorbs, right ? I partially agree on the Silesian culture, however wouldn’t it perhaps be better to add a German-Silesian culture ? Because although with the influx of German colonists who later considered themselves Silesian it isn’t really like there weren’t any Slavic Silesians left (even though they became a minority)...so it would make sense to potentially restore their culture in Silesia as a player even if it had been replaced by German culture ať that point.
Would be nice, however, to see Transilvanians and Slovaks change culture group when under Romanian (for the former), or West Slavic rule (for the latter).
 
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This would be fitting for cultures like Sorbian, Frisian or Silesian, as the got integrated into the overarching "german" culture, during the timeframe of the game.
I'm pretty sure Frisian will be in the Germanic culture group, unless for whatever reason, the Benelux cultures get split from the Germanic culture group.
 
looks interesting. Knowing from Austrian history and from what I see, I hope they won't delete Austria in the next update and divided it into numerous PU's. and make Albertine Austria a real thing. or make Styria or Tirol releasable through event . Which will make for two annoying regional siblings of which uncle Austria has to take care of
 
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Nice, a new province for the TO. I hope it doesn't push their development over 100...

But the most important: THURINGIA IN 1444! YESSSSS

with the independent County of Bregenz (currently Austrian culture) to the west representing one of the more challenging starting positions in the HRE (they have 5 development and an heir with low legitimacy)

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