• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

HOI4 Dev Diary - Portugal

Olá everyone and welcome to another dev diary for La Resistance! Let me begin by introducing myself: My name is Manuel, I’m from Spain and I joined Paradox as a Content Designer for HOI a couple of months ago (just on time to attend PDXCON, yeah!).

I’ve been working on the implementation of Portugal for La Resistance. The original design of the focus tree was made by Portuguese professor Pedro Santos. He came with what I consider to be a really interesting idea, where the political branch of the tree has multiple possible interactions with the Spanish Civil War.

While I worked on Portuguese Events and Decisions, the whole tree was implemented by our producer, Vachon (big kudos to her!). We tweaked the design of the Focus Tree a little bit, specifically the communist branch, which we felt was a bit dull compared to others, and the SCW-related branches to make them properly interact with Spain. Now I’m the one who will polish the tree and will attempt to get rid of all those lovely bugs our great Betas are reporting. Talking about Betas, our freelance artist @Indyclone77 is the one to blame for all the wonderful Portuguese event pictures and new icons you are about to see in the focus tree and national spirits, he has done an amazing job not only in making all that cool art, but also in providing crucial feedback during the development, so big kudos to him as well!

Before going on, please note that balancing is still a work in progress, so there may be changes in what you are about to see.

So I’d like to start talking about the National Spirits Portugal will start with in 1936:
  • Unreliable Army: Representing the poor state of the Portuguese army during the period of the First Republic, which historically led to a major reorganization in 1937, it provides some penalties to Division Organization, Recruitable Population Factor, War Support and Division Attack, so you want to get rid of this before entering any conflict (probably not the best idea to join the Spanish Civil War only to see how your disgusting Spanish enemies defeat your unprepared troops and occupy your precious mainland in a blink...).

  • Unstable Republic: During its 16 years, the First Portuguese Republic saw the inauguration of nine presidents and 44 cabinet reorganizations. Even during the Ditadura Militar there were several failed coup attempts. In 1933, after Salazar’s creation of the Estado Novo and the new Constitution approved in a referendum, Portugal’s stability slowly increased (maybe the censorship system and the different police forces that repressed all kinds of dissidents also helped a little bit with that). So another no-good spirit applying penalties to your Daily Political Power Gain, Stability and Construction Speed. You will be able to remove it through the different political branches, and you will probably want to do it ASAP.
01 Initial NSs.png


Now let’s look at the Portugese Focus Tree and talk about the different paths a player can choose from:

02 Focus Tree.jpg


As you can see, the general structure varies a little bit from the standards of other trees, where you have clear separate branches for industry, military forces and politics.

Let’s start with the colonial branch, shall we?

Through the first focuses, Portugal will receive big bonuses to non-core manpower that will prove really useful in the early stages, since Portugal’s initial manpower is really low. The player can then choose between integrating the African colonies (which will also provide some extra manpower), or allowing them to form their own governments and puppeting them (something that will be appreciated by other democracies in the world).

There is also a sub-branch that joins the industrial one, developing industry and infrastructure in the African colonies.

03 Colonial Branch.png


Regarding Industry, by continuing the public works initiated by Salazar’s regime around the early 30s, Portugal will gain access to the first focus that will provide her first extra research slot (take into consideration that Portugal starts with only two research slots, so it seems just fair for her to get an early focus to fix that). The player can also choose between a fast development of the civilian industry receiving more factories or, with a slower approach, invest in future development getting some nice bonuses to industry research and construction speed.

Portugal can also improve infrastructure and resource extraction industries on the mainland and, of course, there is a focus representing the construction of dams, something Iberian dictators liked very much to do.

And then we have the military industry sub-branch, where the player can get (much needed) military factories and some useful bonuses to production and research for aircraft, vehicles and artillery. Make sure you don’t miss the extra research slot “hidden” between all these industrial focuses!

04 Industrial Branch.png


The first focus on the Naval Branch will unlock decisions to buy ships from either The United Kingdom or Italy. If they accept to build your ships (make sure you have good relations with them before activating the decision!), you will then be presented with three different options to choose from.

05 Purchase Ships Decisions.png


06 Purchase Ships Event.png


The central and left sub-branches focus on Convoy protection and submarine warfare, providing a number of research bonuses for destroyers and submarine warfare, as well as adding a couple of dockyards to boost your naval production. These sub-branches then merge, eventually leading to a focus that unlocks Portugal’s third and last research slot (for a total of five).

The right side of the naval branch is focused on the production of the big ships, as well as fortifying the vulnerable Portuguese possessions in the Atlantic Ocean and Asia.

07 Naval Branch.png


The Army Branch, although fairly small (don’t worry, you will find more military focuses under the Political Branch), will help Portugal to get its army in shape for the conflicts to come. The first focus removes that nasty Unreliable Army National Spirit and leads to some research and production bonuses in the next focuses. Finally, you will have to choose between building heavy fortifications in Lisbon, or creating a light fortification line along the coast.

08 Army Branch.png


Now, let’s take a general look at the whole Political Branch before getting deeper into each of the sub-branches:

09 Political Branch.png


As you can see, you can choose between Popular Front and Estado Novo. The first focus leads to the Communist branches, the latter to the Fascist and Monarchist ones, and both of them lead to the Democratic one.

If you choose to go with Popular Front you will unlock the National Communist branch (to the left). This sub-branch starts with the training of socialist militias, followed by focuses that will help make your people see the benefits of living in a Communist society. Nationalize Industry will get rid of the private capital draining your country, putting you in control of new civ factories, but also hurting your stability. After the Reorganization of the Communist Party, your country will be ready and willing to have a Communist government, and the Soviet Union will receive a nice opinion modifier boost on you, which should help you joining the Comintern via the next focus.

The Popular Front also unlocks Support the Republic, allowing you to support the Republicans and send volunteers to the Spanish Civil War, it leads to two different sub-branches:
  • To the left, we have a “radical” approach to the Spanish Civil War. Workers of Iberia, Unite! will trigger a Civil War in Portugal, in which both sides will instantly join their Spanish counterparts (I mean, you do not have a proper civil war unless you have 6 different tags fighting in it). After (presumably) winning the SCW along with your comrades in Spain, you will be able to unify the Iberian Peninsula, annexing the Spanish Republic. Finally, you will be able to create your own faction and appeal to the Latin American countries to join you.
10 Workers of Iberia NS.png

  • In the right, we have the “cautious” approach to the Spanish Civil War. Here you won’t be able to join the SCW until you have swapped to a communist government. It’s a much slower approach, but after the war, you can pick different focuses to interact with foreign countries, including one that will grant you a war goal against Spain, in case their ideology is no longer desirable for you.
11 Fight Alongside  the Republic Decision.png


If you go with Strict Neutrality you won’t be able to interact in the SCW, but you will gain some nice boosts to your industry, production and Democracy support via the British, as well as some recurrent decisions to purchase equipment from them.

11 bis Democratic Leader.png


You will then allow free elections, swapping to a Democratic government and unlocking not only focuses to join the Allies, but also some shared focuses with the communist branch and the right-wing shared focus Iberian Summit, which unlocks the decisions by which Portugal and Spain can jointly send a petition to join the Axis or the Allies together.

12 Iberian Summit Decisions.png


13 Iberian Summit News.png


In case you go with Estado Novo, you will have to choose between Strict Neutrality (mentioned above), Support the Nationalists and the Monarchist branch.

Support the Nationalists, as its Republican counterpart, will allow you to support Nationalist Spain and send volunteers in the Spanish Civil War. You can join the SCW against the Republic in further focuses, and also intervene in Spain after the civil war if the Spanish government does not match your ideology.

13bis Fascist Leader.png


National Syndicalism will pave the way to become Fascist, leading to some interesting focuses: You can either join the Axis, or claim that Portugal will be the nation that finally unites the entire world under the same rule, ideology and faith (this will provide a powerful National Spirit, but it will also annoy some people around the globe).

Refuse the Naval Blockade unlocks a decision for countries at war with the United Kingdom, by which they will use some of your convoys to carry supplies where they cannot reach, increasing their War Support and, of course, diverting the production of one of their factories to meet your needs.

14 Refuse Naval Blockade Decision.png


From there, you can claim the African territories between your Angolan and Mozambican colonies (righting the humiliation of the British Ultimatum of 1890), recover the East Indies and Brazil, and even declaring war on a threatening Japan!

Last but not least, we have the Monarchist Branch. You will start by uniting the Brazilian and Portuguese royal houses (wedding bells ringing in the distance). After that, your goal is to restore the Monarchy not only in Portugal, but also in Brazil, some recurrent decisions will help you in that matter. Once you succeed in that, you will be able to politely ask Brazil to submit under your rule, re-establishing the Empire of Portugal and Brazil.

15 Empire of Portugal and Brazil.png


In the case of a Carlist Uprising happening during the Spanish Civil War, you can support your Monarchist friends in Spain and join the war against all those misguided souls that refuse to bow to the god given rights of monarchs to rule the people.

16 Carlist volunteers NS.png


And that’s all from me, I hope you enjoyed the dev diary and make sure to stay tuned for the next one. Anyways, we wish you all a merry Christmas and very happy New Year. See you all in 2020!

xmas.jpg
 
  • 3Love
Reactions:
another thing to add that the underwelmingness of the three, is that the IRL national syndicalists, famously did not get along well with Franco largely because the MNS wanted to annex Galicia, something that has been left by the way side, another missed opportunity, would have been some shared focusses between the monarchist and the national syndicalists, since the national syndicalist had some nominal sympathy for monarchism
 
That is just… absurd.

Portugal had it's own republicans. They kept offering resistance to Salazar, and there were many revolts during this time period, revolts which backed the republican ideals of the regime that was in power before 1926. The republican focus, should, therefore, be focused on the First Republic, and not on "Spanish ideals".

(can't post a direct link to the Portuguese Wiki so I was forced to include a link via google translator, everything is in English but don't be surprised by sudden errors)

If you want to include a possibly fantasy path for an uprising together with Spain, add it to the communist branch, and keep the republicans out of it, since the republican opossition Salazar faced had nothing to do with communists or the spanish civil war.

If what you say is true, then I am seriously perplexed at this grave error. How much work / research was done in the political sense in order to miss the republican opposition Salazar faced (which was NOT communist / or shared anything in common with the spanish civil war)?

The Portuguese Popular Front comes from the Spanish one, where left-wing parties and groups (from Communists and Anarchists to moderate leftish democrats) will join together opposing the Dictatorship of Salazar. I agree with you, there's a lack of historical commentaries here to explain why there is a Popular Front here, for example. I already felt the DD was getting long and didn't want to spend more time on it, so I kept working on more features/fixes instead. Anyways, will be aware of that for next time (I really like to get that hostorical background)!

Has you can see the Democrats will join with the Communist so they can defeat Salazar. I believe that paradox added The Popular Front based on the same concept has the Republican Spain. The Democrats in portugal are like the branch of Maintain the Second Republic of the Republican Spain focus Tree.

Again I can't add links so had to cut it out.
 
yuo seems to misunderstand, the popular fron path, is not the democratic path, it's the communist path, the democratic/republican path is, get this, the strict neutrality one, that's how yuo get to flip democratic, I'm just well, it was what i expected, when they got a Portuguese teacher in on this one, considering how bad Portuguese historiography is in general

I don't misunderstand anything. I understood it clearly.

But if you want to include Portuguese republicans, you can't say they were a communist / extreme left group. Because they weren't. Right now you even got a communist icon for that tree branch. Totally out of context.

That is my point. Remove it, rename it, but get the republican word out of it. There should be a tree for:

1º communists (biggest opponents that survived to the end due to support from the USSR while all the others didn't get support from anyone)
2º possibly anarchists (the ones who could join leftist spain in their war, but they had only a few hundred/dozen participants before the game's start date so they were pretty much non-existant and stopped existing by 1938).
3º republicans (they made countless insurrections and only dissapeared around 1950 - and again - republicans in Portugal were tied to democratic tendencies and were always close allies to the British/French)
4º fascists (inspired by the spanish falange, they were outlawed, with many joining Salazar's Estado Novo instead)
5º Estado Novo (the historical path - the stricly neutral path - Salazar's own Corporate Estate, and frankly I haven't seen a single Corporatism focus since it was definetely what the government was known for)
6º Monarchism (probably included as an option for both Fascists / Estado novo, in case they decide to bring the King back, otherwise it wouldn't make much sense - all the other groups were anti-monarchism pratically)

Has you can see the Democrats will join with the Communist so they can defeat Salazar. I believe that paradox added The Popular Front based on the same concept has the Republican Spain. The Democrats in portugal are like the branch of Maintain the Second Republic of the Republican Spain focus Tree.

Again I can't add links so had to cut it out.

Still seems out of context. The name clearly refers to Republicans. Why would they join with the communists, and why would they join with the spanish leftists? Like…? Republicans had no ties with 1º Spain 2º Leftists in Spain

The closest you got is MUNAF (Movement of National Antifascist Unity). But frankly? Why would they join with Spain? Also note: MUNAF was not republican. It was made of, many republicans, as well as countless others. It was a broad coalition that didn't last long. Again, 0 ties with Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_of_National_Antifascist_Unity
 
Last edited:
another thing to add that the underwelmingness of the three, is that the IRL national syndicalists, famously did not get along well with Franco largely because the MNS wanted to annex Galicia, something that has been left by the way side, another missed opportunity, would have been some shared focusses between the monarchist and the national syndicalists, since the national syndicalist had some nominal sympathy for monarchism

Yeah I agree completely about Galicia.
 
yuo can also take the strict neutrality path via taking the estado novo focus, also to add to all this the guy they picked for the democratic path Norton de Matos, only became pro democracy after his stay in America, which happened in the context of an army reform (that is mentioned in the focus) that started with brits aid, but the reform stopped due to world war II, and was restarted after WWII with American aid largely has a "payment" for the Base das Lajes, a bit of a Jump to have him has democratic from the outset
 
That is my point. Remove it, rename it, but get the republican word out of it. There should be a tree for:

1º communists (biggest opponents that survived to the end due to support from the USSR while all the others didn't get support from anyone)
2º possibly anarchists (the ones who could join leftist spain in their war, but they had only a few hundred/dozen participants before the game's start date so they were pretty much non-existant and stopped existing by 1938).
3º republicans (they made countless insurrections and only dissapeared around 1950 - and again - republicans in Portugal were tied to democratic tendencies and were always close allies to the British/French)
4º fascists (inspired by the spanish falange, they were outlawed, with many joining Salazar's Estado Novo instead)
5º Estado Novo (the historical path - the stricly neutral path - Salazar's own Corporate Estate, and frankly I haven't seen a single Corporatism focus since it was definetely what the government was known for)
6º Monarchism (probably included as an option for both Fascists / Estado novo, in case they decide to bring the King back, otherwise it wouldn't make much sense - all the other groups were anti-monarchism pratically)

you know what's tragic about your suggestion?, is that it is essentially what they went whit, they just did it with the least amount of flavour possible, Also hard doubt on the democratic credentials of the republicans, most of them co-operated with Salazar, largely because they saw the National Union has the second coming of the long splintered republican party,
 
you know what's tragic about your suggestion?, is that it is essentially what they went whit, they just did it with the least amount of flavour possible, Also hard doubt on the democratic credentials of the republicans, most of them co-operated with Salazar, largely because they saw the National Union has the second coming of the long splintered republican party,

Well, if we consider your aproach, then we wouldn't include fascists either since many of them joined Estado Novo, as well as the monarchists. Santos Costa was one of the most important figures of this time, he was the right arm of Salazar in the military and he was monarchist.

Only the communists and Salazar's Regime, then, if we follow your thought.

yuo can also take the strict neutrality path via taking the estado novo focus, also to add to all this the guy they picked for the democratic path Norton de Matos, only became pro democracy after his stay in America, which happened in the context of an army reform (that is mentioned in the focus) that started with brits aid, but the reform stopped due to world war II, and was restarted after WWII with American aid largely has a "payment" for the Base das Lajes, a bit of a Jump to have him has democratic from the outset

Don't know about any army reform started with british aid but Norton de Matos was always democratic though. What you speak of actually reminds me of Humberto Delgado - he was the only that changed ideology after the military started being restructured - he was always pro nazi during this time, but after visiting America after ww2 he suddently became a lover and defender of democracy. Which somehow is seen as a good thing nowadays.
 
Last edited:
Anything regarding fortifying Goa, Timor Leste, and Guinea in case of conflict with the Allies?

Also perhaps an Atlantic defense network using Azores, Madeira, and Cabo Verde to help the German U-Boats in case Portugal joins Axis and vice versa if the opt to join Allies.
 
Well, if we consider your aproach, then we wouldn't include fascists either since many of them joined Estado Novo, as well as the monarchists. Santos Costa was one of the most important figures of this time, he was the right arm of Salazar in the military and he was monarchist.

Only the communists and Salazar's Regime, then, if we follow your thought.
yuo misunderstand what I meant (or I did in regards to what you meant), Just because the Republicans, National syndicalists and monarchists collaborated with Salazzar, is not a case for their exclusion, but rather for their organization in the three, e.I has a branch of the wider Estado Novo branch, something that is already done in Focus three
 
to be 100% honest my main annoyance with the focus (besides the misses opportunities of which there are many) is really the flag they picked for Portugal-Brazil, which I have voiced earlier in the thread, because outside of that I get why they made the choices they did on how the three is structured (the the lack of a "Salazzarist" branch makes sense considering how often the regime is depicted in Portuguese historiography, it doesn't make it a good choice, but an understandable one)
 
another thing to add that the underwelmingness of the three, is that the IRL national syndicalists, famously did not get along well with Franco largely because the MNS wanted to annex Galicia, something that has been left by the way side, another missed opportunity, would have been some shared focusses between the monarchist and the national syndicalists, since the national syndicalist had some nominal sympathy for monarchism

The focus Remember Olivença in the monarchist branch already gives a war goal on Spain.

2019-12-19 10.56.17.png

Something like this could still be added.
With the possibility to core the state.

Sorry for the bad image.
And the fact that I didn't write the name in English.
 
Last edited:
to be 100% honest my main annoyance with the focus (besides the misses opportunities of which there are many) is really the flag they picked for Portugal-Brazil, which I have voiced earlier in the thread, because outside of that I get why they made the choices they did on how the three is structured (the the lack of a "Salazzarist" branch makes sense considering how often the regime is depicted in Portuguese historiography, it doesn't make it a good choice, but an understandable one)

He was actually nominated as The Best Portuguese by the vast majority of the people (41%), with the second one not even receiving half of his votes. The so called defenders of democracy weren't even spoken of. Those are only spoken of in the news feed and that is because of self-enrichment and/or in cases of corruption.
 
The focus Remember Olivença in the monarchist branch already gives a war goal on Spain.
.
fair Enough on that, but the wierd exlcusion of the pink map from the monarchist bothers me specially since Duarte Nuno is from the Bnrahc that got excluded from the throne by the Brithish, so it makes little sence they don't have a sort of anti-brithish focus

Like this
2019-12-19 10.56.17.png


all credit to you for the original
 
He was actually nominated as The Best Portuguese by the vast majority of the people (41%), with the second one not even receiving half of his votes. The so called defenders of democracy weren't even spoken of. Those are only spoken of in the news feed and that is because of self-enrichment and/or in cases of corruption.
Portuguese Historiography is atrocious in all most all regards, the depiction Salazzarist regime isn't even the most egregious one, but it in an annoying one
 
Portuguese Historiography is atrocious in all most all regards, the depiction Salazzarist regime isn't even the most egregious one, but it in an annoying one

The real problem are the political left parties that love to depict Salazar as a Fascist despite the fact he actually outlawed the Fascists. In school, you actually learn pratically nothing about the Estado Novo except their love for censorship and that there was no liberty of speech, or how PIDE loved to spy on people all the time in order to send them to jail, or how they tortured countless innocents. These things did happen, but they love to blow it out of proportions.

The Right-winged parties are depicted as evil in Portugal thanks to them, and even the center-right is sometimes seen in the same way. There is no reason to speak about the truth regarding Portugal because that will only cause you to love/feel pride for your nation, and most of the leftists do not like any form of nationalism (or want to avoid it), in one way or another.

You can still find it either in factual historical books, or over the internet in many articles.

And frankly I doubt I will bother much speaking in here - I already see this as EU4's Golden Century 2.0. 99% of the portuguese people complained about the mission tree or the national ideas in one DD for Golden Century, but they only paid attention to the spanish complaints. They added extra ship strength to the spanish fleet, despite the fact that Portuguese ships were of superior design and always stronger (and yes, if you are wondering, Portugal has 0 bónus for the navy, despite the fact Portugal was always a naval country and stronger than Spain and pretty much everyone up until the 1600's). Navarra on the other hand, does have bónus for the fleet - and doesn't even have a coastline, lol. Always leaves a guy perplexed.

And don't even get me started on the Spanish-Portuguese permanent aliance on eu4. Someone at Paradox has a strange idea of reality or lives in a world diferent from the one the Portuguese do. The Spanish-Portuguese idea of friendship is only recent (by a few decades), and it was always a failed attempt, since there are plenty examples of how the spanish government perceives friendship.
 
He was actually nominated as The Best Portuguese by the vast majority of the people (41%), with the second one not even receiving half of his votes. The so called defenders of democracy weren't even spoken of. Those are only spoken of in the news feed and that is because of self-enrichment and/or in cases of corruption.
Mate come on, that wasn't any thorough randomised populational survey, that was a mere T.V show poll contest where people would call (and pay for the call) to vote for their candidate (an inherently very biased populational gathering method).
To make matters worse, the guy in second place was the Communist party leader "Alvaro Cunhal", which was never in power to be able to make any positive or negative reform or to improve/harm the Portuguese people in any way. Seems to me this poll was merely another daily arm-wrestle between the far-right and the far-left.

Funny enough, in the following year there was another T.V contest poll, which asked the opposite question about "The Worst Portuguese" and Salazar ALSO won that.
Seems a bit contradictory to be both the best and the worst, and to me it seems more like the people who voted either didn't know anything about the other candidates and voted for the most famous one, or all the voting were purely politically motivated arm-wrestles.

If Salazar was truly considered the best Portuguese by 41% of the population, one would assume the political parties more aligned to his political views combined, would ever crack past 1.5% of the popular vote.
 
Last edited:
Mate come on, that wasn't any thorough randomised populational survey, that was a mere T.V show poll context where people would call (and pay the call) to vote for their candidate (an inherently very biased populational gathering method).
Funny enough, in the following year there was another T.V contest poll, which asked the opposite question about "The Worst Portuguese" and Salazar ALSO won that.
Seems a bit contradictory to be both the best and the worst, and to me it seems more like the people who voted either didn't know anything about the other candidates and voted for the most famous one, or all the voting was purely politically motivated (which seems like a very feasible choice, since the Communist leader Alvaro Cunhal got second place as the worst portuguese ever, literally just for being communist, because since he was never in any position of power, he was never actually able to do anything that could remotely harm anyone).

Yeah except that the contest you speak of hapened in a private channel and not on the public TV. Which makes a big difference since, for instance, I wasn't even aware of it until the results were posted, lol. The contest I spoke of, did happen on the public TV, and there was a vast amount of advertisement in place, countless weeks before the final voting hapened.

As for Alvaro Cunhal, he was the leader of the communists, and the communists weren't that better than the "fascists" they speak of. They terrorized the population with countless attempts at "aquisition of funds" for instance. When there was a bank robbery, it was common to be the communists the ones behind it. In some cases the population surrounded the bandits and spanked them. Unknown or not to Alvaro Cunhal, he was the figurehead of his own party so he can be blamed, one way or another. People couldn't vote for the communist party, so I guess this was the best way to do it. The vast ammounts of nationalizations performed by the communists, which were disastrous for the economy, and the fact that most of those nationalizations were sold back to their former owners, probably didn't help their image either, neither did the fact that the communists are actually the richest of the political parties in Portugal despite the fact they are a very tiny fraction of the population and one of the smallest parties ever.
 
Yeah except that the contest you speak of hapened in a private channel and not on the public TV. Which makes a big difference since, for instance, I wasn't even aware of it until the results were posted, lol. The contest I spoke of, did happen on the public TV, and there was a vast amount of advertisement in place, countless weeks before the final voting hapened.

As for Alvaro Cunhal, he was the leader of the communists, and the communists weren't that better than the "fascists" they speak of. They terrorized the population with countless attempts at "aquisition of funds" for instance. When there was a bank robbery, it was common to be the communists the ones behind it. In some cases the population surrounded the bandits and spanked them. Unknown or not to Alvaro Cunhal, he was the figurehead of his own party so he can be blamed, one way or another. People couldn't vote for the communist party, so I guess this was the best way to do it. The vast ammounts of nationalizations performed by the communists, which were disastrous for the economy, and the fact that most of those nationalizations were sold back to their former owners, probably didn't help their image either, neither did the fact that the communists are actually the richest of the political parties in Portugal despite the fact they are a very tiny fraction of the population and one of the smallest parties ever.
You seem to have replied to my comment before i had to edit some mistakes out and now all of this makes no sense. Maybe you could reply to the edited version, or better yet don't, because this is not the place or time to discuss our personal political views.
 
You seem to have replied to my comment before i had to edit some mistakes out and now all of this makes no sense. Maybe you could reply to the edited version, or better yet don't, because this is not the place or time to discuss our personal political views.

You said that Alvaro Cunhal was also ranked as the 2nd worst one. I can clearly see why. I didn't see the voting myself for the "worst portuguese ever" contest, so I got no clue who ranked 2nd, 3rd, etc.

I wasn't debating my political view either way - I always restrict myself to facts. Historical facts. But yes, Alvaro Cunhal also won 2nd place accordingly to the internet (for the best category), to my great surprise (had heard it had been Afonso Henriques but it seems like it was a wrong assessment). Either way, he didn't even have half of the votes of Salazar. Which, already says something by itself.

Yeah can we stay on the topic of the Portuguese focus three?

+1