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Hey dude, why does USA need Fermi AND Oppenheimer? IIRC the Nuclear tree is just a single line of techs...
 
Test Italy 1936 - Second screen

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30 Aug 1936 Natta has just finished his research
14 April 1937 so far Natta is the only tech team among those have been introduced/modified that has been used by the AI
2 May 1938 so far Natta is the only tech team among those have been introduced/modified that has been used by the AI
 
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MR2 said:
What about gaining (some of) the tech teams of countries when you annex them?
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I can try that option as well. What about doing a test you too? I'm considering to start again the test because I want to change the speciality for Natta from training to engineering. This because he was an engineer specialized in chemistry.
 
This is the new list: I have changed speciality for Natta (as mentioned above) and I have increased the skill for Messe from 4 to 5; Cantieri Navali gained electronics (the Vittorio Veneto class was quite good as design); for Ansaldo replaced mechanics with industrial_engineering (it was a really big conglomerate).

"In 1929, de Finetti introduced the concept of infinitely divisible probability distributions.
He also introduced de Finetti diagrams for graphing genotype frequencies."... " he classic exposition of his distinctive theory is the 1937 "La prévision: ses lois logiques, ses sources subjectives,"[1] which discussed probability founded on the coherence of betting odds and the consequences of exchangeability." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_de_Finetti

Hence raised skills for De Finetti to 6 starting in 1930

BTW "Cantieri Navali Riuniti" should be renamed as "Cantieri Riuniti dell'Adriatico" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantieri_Riuniti_dell'Adriatico


Mark1010 said:
I'm doing a test playing as Sweden to check what will happen with the following tech teams

ITALY
Code: 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1803 } 
		name = "Bruno de Finetti" 
		picture = "T1803" 
		skill = 6.0000 
		research_types = { mathematics } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1805 } 
		name = "Cantieri Navali Riuniti" 
		picture = "T1805" 
		skill = 5.0000 
		research_types = { naval_engineering electronics technical_efficiency naval_artillery } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1804 } 
		name = "Cantieri Ansaldo" 
		picture = "T1804" 
		skill = 4.0000 
		research_types = { artillery industrial_engineering electronics naval_engineering naval_artillery } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1816 } 
		name = "Giovanni Messe" 
		picture = "T1816" 
		skill = 5.0000 
		research_types = { training small_unit_tactics decentralized_execution combined_arms_focus } 
		startyear = 1943 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1800 } 
		name = "Arturo Crocco" 
		picture = "T1800" 
		skill = 4.0000 
		research_types = { aeronautics rocketry mathematics } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1806 } 
		name = "Caproni" 
		picture = "T1806" 
		skill = 4.0000 
		research_types = { rocketry electronics chemistry aeronautics } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1824 } 
		name = "Borghese" 
		picture = "" 
		skill = 6.0000 
		research_types = { decentralized_execution naval_training small_taskforce_tactics submarine_tactics seamanship } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
		tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1807 } 
		name = "Enrico Fermi" 
		picture = "T1807" 
		skill = 8.0000 
		research_types = { nuclear_physics nuclear_engineering mathematics } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1939 
		endyear = 1939 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1822 } 
		name = "Amaldi" 
		picture = "" 
		skill = 4.0000 
		research_types = { nuclear_physics nuclear_engineering } 
		startyear = 1939 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1823 } 
		name = "Reggiane" 
		picture = "T1810" 
		skill = 6.0000 
		research_types = { electronics artillery aeronautics technical_efficiency } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1821 } 
		name = "Giulio Natta" 
		picture = "T1821" 
		skill = 7.0000 
		research_types = { chemistry industrial_engineering management } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1970 
		endyear = 1970 
		}

USA


Code: 
        tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 1825 } 
		name = "Enrico Fermi" 
		picture = "T1807" 
		skill = 9.0000 
		research_types = { nuclear_physics nuclear_engineering mathemathics } 
		startyear = 1940 
		endyear = 1953 
		endyear = 1953 
		} 
	tech_team = { 
		id = { type = 10 id = 114 } 
		name = "Robert Oppenheimer" 
		picture = "T114" 
		skill = 4.0000 
		research_types = { nuclear_physics nuclear_engineering mathematics } 
		startyear = 1930 
		endyear = 1953 
		endyear = 1953 
		}
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Mark1010 said:
Because I changed the skills of Oppenheimer: before the migrations from Europe nuclear research in USA was quite poor
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I'm not noticing the difference? Besides, you could always just wake Oppenheimer in 1939 (I mean, the US doesn't even have any land doctrine tech teams to start with, surely you could just delay the start date of Oppenheimer?)
 
truth is life said:
I'm not noticing the difference? Besides, you could always just wake Oppenheimer in 1939 (I mean, the US doesn't even have any land doctrine tech teams to start with, surely you could just delay the start date of Oppenheimer?)
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It doesn't matter. I just wanted to be closest as much as I could to the history. USA in this way can still research nuclear in the 30s. Please note that Fermi is operational in 1940.
 
Mark1010 said:
It doesn't matter. I just wanted to be closest as much as I could to the history. USA in this way can still research nuclear in the 30s. Please note that Fermi is operational in 1940.
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Part of the high skill of the Oppenheimer tech team represents the many very intelligent physicists, mathematicians, and engineers who contributed to the Manhattan Project (people like Fermi, or Dyson, or Feynman, or Oppenheimer himself). Like I said, it's rarely used until 1939 or later anyways, and given the very linear nuclear tech tree there's not much point in having two teams (the only reason for Teller is that Oppenheimer got kicked out in 1953 during the 'Red Scare', and many of the physicists were leaving government service due to that and the end of the war). Really, more information about the structure of the tech tree, particularly the cold war bits, is necessary to properly create tech teams.
 
What about the Baltic states? They were involved in WW II, though as micros. Well and to be honest they cease to exist in 1940. BUT, as an überpatriotic-hardcore-nationalist :rofl: I must say that I`ve already tinkered with the estonian TT-s (titties :rofl:) and as a Reichskommissariat Ostland (EST, LAT, LIT combined) with some added titties would make a formidable ally (read: another useless puppet) for ze Reich; one at a time the Baltic states are too weak to achieve anything much. Otherwise, I think I could manage Finland (is Finland in the list anyways, can`t remember atm).
 
Mark1010 said:
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That is what I was afraid of - AI/player using teams for completely different purposes...

And natta - for God's sake - he is way too powerful !

Remember that Italy can use more teams than some smaller countries, will probebly be able to teach them more quickly and that a Nobel prize is simply not enough.
Many people are NOMINATED so are considered at least almost equal to the winner does it mean that they ALL should appear here ?

It is about industry and practical applications of discoveries - in some cases it simply isn't working while here there is an uber-powerful team which will cause Italian economy to advance so rapidly.. it never was possible in the real life.

Skill 7, three abilities.... that is a game-breaking killer team. It cannot be here, simply cannot.
 
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