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snoopdogg said:
Regardless, n ow that he's outed he's going to die either way.
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You seriously believe him? After reading that rambling incoherent exchange we had?

If so -- if you believe he is really a spy -- then why don't you vote Lemeard? It couldn't hurt to hear Lemeard defend himself. If I had my druthers, today would be a close vote between Lemeard and THE_SPLIT.
 
I will wait to read THE_SPLIT and Lemeard's response before voting.

THE_SPLIT should tell us (Or Ironhead if he so chooses) what the GM told him when he spied Lemeard. And Lemeard should post something about this Split claim.
 
A couple of role/trait rules to point out:

Master of Disguise: One of the players is so good at disguising themselves that they may choose how they wish to appear to all scanners and spies, even if they are not one. There is a 75% chance of the disguise working. The Master of Disguise may not attempt to impersonate an apprentice, but all other roles are able to be impersonated. This person could be a good guy, or a bad guy.
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Master of Disguise trait can fool spies as well.

Lover: Each night, the Lover may choose to stay with a chosen player. The target will only learn of the visit if it stopped him from doing some nightly action. He also will not learn the name of who it was (since the Lover sneaks about in the dark). The Lover and the target are unable to perform any other action during the night. Scans against the target will scan both without revealing the identity of either. Scans against the lover will come up blank if the lover is out. Protection aimed at the target affects the Lover as well, but the Lover can only be directly protected if staying at home. Attacks against the Lover will fail if the Lover is out. Attacks against the target kills the Lover as well (barring protection). Wins with baddies.
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SCANS will be affected, but spying may be different than scanning, it doesn't say.

Spy: If a player has the Spy trait, he will have the ability to spy on another player, revealing clues to the role of that player, but never the role itself. Some clues may be useless, others not. There is only an 80% chance that the information the spy receives is for the correct role. The spy may spy on the same player again to try to obtain more information.
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This whole thing needs to be looked over. Sometimes the clue is useless. The clues are only vague. There's a chance you get just plain wrong information.

So I would hope any spies would be smart enough to double check anything before they go out on a limb and try to get the village in on a bandwagon, as it could backfire and lead to both the spy and a goodie dying, which would be stupid.
 
Hax said:
VOTE humancalculator as Dr. Mr. Nurse
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What on earth for!? :confused:

Either you believe THE_SPLIT is a spy that found a XXXX the wolf (or possibly MoD villager) and Lemeard the lover
- in which case you vote Lemeard
or
you believe Ironhead that THE_SPLIT is somehow setting him up
- in which case you vote THE_SPLIT.
 
Ironhead 5 said:
You seriously believe him? After reading that rambling incoherent exchange we had?
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I read through your PM conversation twice and I'm still confused. Probably because I'm not used to the new rules. Will read through them again.

Yesterday The_Split showed some hostility towards me, and there could be two possible reasons as to why. If we're going to assume that The_Split is indeed a goodie then his information from the spy trait must've been wrong. Or he could be an actual baddie that wants to have me dead because my role is a threat to his pack, which it is.

Oh, and a third possibility. I wouldn't out it past The_Split to be a sorcerer that this way tries to win the trust of the village. At any rate I'm utterly confused as to why I showed up as a lover to him, if that's what really happend.
 
Personally, I find "yeah I was disguising myself as a wolf" rather suspicious (considering that, in general, even the evil side will vote for an outed wolf), but since we don't have the name of XXXX, I can't vote for him.


Scratch that, rereading Ironhead's messages... we DO have the name of XXXX.

Vote EUROO7
 
ForzaA said:
Personally, I find "yeah I was disguising myself as a wolf" rather suspicious (considering that, in general, even the evil side will vote for an outed wolf), but since we don't have the name of XXXX, I can't vote for him.
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If I thought THE_SPLIT was a trustworthy source, I would have outed the name of the person he claimed was a wolf. I don't think he is trustworthy.

Note that THE_SPLIT cannot come up with even the script of the spy report that the GM sent him. Perhaps this is because he realizes that each spy report has a unique format based precisely on the individual's role, and he doesn't want to make up some BS and then have me know that he is lying?

In any case, I do have two spy reports from two different sources on EUROO7. The spy reports, if they are true, indicate that EUROO7 may be a baddie... but he just as well may be a goodie. They are just too vague and inconclusive. They aren't open and shut, like the spy report on jonti-h was. And they certainly were not the subject of THE_SPLIT's alleged spy report.
 
Ironhead 5 said:
No. Don't twist my words around. He is not a confirmed baddie; all anyone of us have is the weird PM exchange we had.
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Well, since I'm lost in this game, might as well keep on the bandwagon (well I think it is a bandwagon but don't actually have the vote count) anyways...
 
I get this horrible feeling that this is yet another miscommunication between two goodies and now they are outing eachother instead of the baddies. I think the safest way to test who's who is to

vote Lemeard
 
johho888 said:
I get this horrible feeling that this is yet another miscommunication between two goodies and now they are outing eachother instead of the baddies.
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I'm no goodie - as far as anyone knows - and all I am doing is outing both THE_SPLIT, who is very erratic in the way he wants me to out people for him, and the person he wanted me to out -- Lemeard. If THE_SPLIT is good, and we lynch him tonight, and then the wolves eat me tonight -- you still have Lemeard's name. If THE_SPLIT is bad, and we lynch Lemeard, and then the wolves eat me tonight -- you still have THE_SPLIT's name.
 
Ironhead 5 said:
I'm no goodie - as far as anyone knows - and all I am doing is outing both THE_SPLIT, who is very erratic in the way he wants me to out people for him, and the person he wanted me to out -- Lemeard. If THE_SPLIT is good, and we lynch him tonight, and then the wolves eat me tonight -- you still have Lemeard's name. If THE_SPLIT is bad, and we lynch Lemeard, and then the wolves eat me tonight -- you still have THE_SPLIT's name.
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I5 the PM's that you are posting are 1)wrong and 2)missing vital information but I did send the Pm's with the names to you, so I am not sure why your are butchering them like that.....

In order to help the village, here we go:

I am a spy, you idiot, and I thought going through my be a great idea because you are already a spokesman....
I spied on Euro (And I did send you this PM yesterday I5, why do you not admit it) and got the same ping on him as Jonti (so I knew your "scan" claim was legit...
I spied on Lemeard today and got a scan that seems like a description of the lover.

I suggest I5 explains himself but for now we should go for Euro

Vote Euro
 
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