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Information will probably start leaking closer to the release date in order to keep interest in game high for the release itself.
To clarify what I meant is that we have seen how much info EU4 has received in the form of both DDs and other projects (like the call to arms) plus all the advertisements in various form. I understand that the EU series is one of the biggest franchises Paradox has and it was most certainly good that EU4 did receive that much info. I have not claimed I know of any kind of publishing marketing but we are still the customers (and consumers) who ultimately buy the games and I have seen many people who were active during the early stages of announcement and obviously had an interest in the game and the developing process of it. Well many of these people are not active anymore on the EvW forum, maybe they have moved to EU4 forums or who knows... we have also heard many promises (more frequent DDs for example), but the absolute worst is that "soon" word we have heard so many times. Why doesn't EvW have fixed dates for DDs like all the other titles does (if it's two per month, one or any other time frame)? Plus I have not claimed that PI doesn't care about the game, I have said that PI doesn't care enough which is exactly the impression I get about the total silence what any kind of information is regarded, since the stream we have received no new information...Really we don't care? Really? The hyperbole of these comments is pretty unbelievable even for the internet.
We are acting in the best interest of the game and therefore our members who will buy it.
That you may feel you know how to publish games better than the publishing Department and or market games better than the marketing department does not mean that we do not care.
I can only refer you to the rest of thread where we have gone over these issues before.
No, we didn´t. We said that we feel like you (PI) don´t care, and you just said: The marketing department is doing their best. But you didn´t really answer our questions, or, what you could have done; direct one of the marketing department to this thread, so they can answer our questions.
I am talking about the part where he is comparing EUIV to EvW in terms of how many DDs they have received for example as well as the release schedule.
And I did not say "the marketing Department is doing their best" (As in implying it is not good enough), the Marketing department feels they know best, and as such will release information as and when they decide it is best for the game to succeed. We/I/Me/Paradox/Marketing all get that some members of the forum disagree with how we are proceeding, never the less we feel it is the prudent course to follow and so will continue to do so.
And I did not say "the marketing Department is doing their best" (As in implying it is not good enough), the Marketing department feels they know best, and as such will release information as and when they decide it is best for the game to succeed. We/I/Me/Paradox/Marketing all get that some members of the forum disagree with how we are proceeding, never the less we feel it is the prudent course to follow and so will continue to do so.
It is only natural to compare one title with another title, as for why EvW was compared to EU4 was that they are the closest proximity to each other what the release date is concerned. It's just really weird that the marketing team would employ so different strategies. Well I really hope that they are doing what is best for the game (and that we will see more info the next couple of months until release) but one has to agree that releasing a game without enough info is really bad (you do not have to be expert at marketing to know that).
Magyar, the problem is that today there are those "experts teams", like the EEDAR, they are so experts (in getting payed) that the new advised trend is to release games without a demo, because, they say, in that way a game double his sales; then there are thousands or more pissed off people because the game is bad or don't work: "but ehy, we have get more money, who cares of customers?" ^^ in other words those experts advice a game company to act as a financial company, by chewing whenever they can.
Probably the "experts team" think the same way about informing customers before a game launch: "less infos we give, more customers will buy it", yeah right, in your dreams guys ^^ this tactic works with teenagers and less than adult peoples with oniomania syndrome, but it works one time only, the second time it works no more
Probably the "experts team" think the same way about informing customers before a game launch: "less infos we give, more customers will buy it", yeah right, in your dreams guys ^^ this tactic works with teenagers and less than adult peoples with oniomania syndrome, but it works one time only, the second time it works no more
The lack of dev diaries is in fact a clever satire on the availability of accurate information in the Eastern Bloc during the cold war era.
It’s really immersive actually. You’ll get a big announcement, then you’ll get nothing for ages, then you’ll get some unrelated statistics on tractor production, then if you make a criticism you will be shot.
(OR it could be to do with the fact that they actually announced this game earlier than they were originally planning to, due to issues with other titles (MMTG). One of the two)
It’s really immersive actually. You’ll get a big announcement, then you’ll get nothing for ages, then you’ll get some unrelated statistics on tractor production, then if you make a criticism you will be shot.
(OR it could be to do with the fact that they actually announced this game earlier than they were originally planning to, due to issues with other titles (MMTG). One of the two)
Hey i would really like to see Dev Diary on tractor/tanks/whatever production statistics. I would like to see quarter production numbers of my soviet factories in EvW.
Its clearly a capitalist issue with pushing other more profitable titles in foreground while delaying other, rather innovative (timeframe) titles, to maximize profit.
The thing is that, i myself (and some other peoples i think) dont have much interest in other paradox game series except HoI/EvW.
East Bloc Rap
mir: Russian noun, meaning Peace, or the World
Surely the lack of developer diaries is a typical trick spawned from the devious minds of of imperialist warmonger capitalist hyenas and their running dog jackal lackeys using their 7 year plan to exploit the code-making workers of the world and hold them captive in dark computing caverns with golden chains to prevent them from breaking free of their ignorance to realize their class interest and rising up in a Soviet Spring to join in harmonious comradeship with the happy and resolute workers of the true proletarian democracies of the people's republics who work with Stakhanovite diligence under a 5 year plan (40% faster than the imperialist 7 year plan!) seeking only to gain mir!Don't worry we have a 5/7 year plan.
mir: Russian noun, meaning Peace, or the World
Poor Castellon.
Just relax, people. The DD's will arrive precisely when they are meant to.
Just relax, people. The DD's will arrive precisely when they are meant to.
Castelon I appreciate your efforts in answering our questions, but can you direct someone from your marketing department over to this thread so we may ask questions to him/her ourselves.
As a PI newcomer I have to say that relative to other minor studios, this one certainly is lacking a bit in released information this close to the finish line. 3-6 months to go and the subforum is near dead-silent... Rare DDs, rare sneak peaks, rare everything. Yeah, the devs at least visit the forums occasionally, mostly to explain why they aren't releasing any info. That's as backwards as can be.
One of the things PI always got talked up about was their connection to the fans and lack of concern about marketing, but here it's a stone wall and everything released is based on tight-assed marketing rules. Not a good first actual impression, imo. Here I'm hardly feeling the need to visit the forums again and it seems better to go back to spending time on other games' forums where they actually, you know, engage with the fans.
One of the things PI always got talked up about was their connection to the fans and lack of concern about marketing, but here it's a stone wall and everything released is based on tight-assed marketing rules. Not a good first actual impression, imo. Here I'm hardly feeling the need to visit the forums again and it seems better to go back to spending time on other games' forums where they actually, you know, engage with the fans.
You can believe me, they do engage with their fans, and they do it very much usually. (And if you look in the other subforums (espacially CKII), you´ll see the proof)
I'd ask if it was just an issue with BLL, but apparently it's PI's marketing directing the blackout, so I don't know what to say. Why the special treatment if what you say is true?
I do realize that BLL includes a bunch of HOI modders, which is very hopeful, but it's also very odd that people drawn from the community are giving the cold shoulder to that very community (save the odd post on the forums), again at the supposed behest of this marketing dept.