Glad I'm not evil this game. I'd by furious right now if I were a Bougie wolf -- though I could see the Hierarchs hunting Euro for going after Arky in the thread.
Videonfanning is expressing an untoward level of remorse over the death of a villager / seer etc. "Oh Noes, the seer is dead! We're doomed!" I'm sure Wagonlitz will proceed to quote the whole 5-year-old Lite game any minute now. Waffle? Wafl? Wolf?
Rooklie mistake? I saved you from the lynch! Though admittedly not as elegantly as I had planned to. Better hunted than lynched. Plus. Apparently there's a Guardian Angel commission and a doctor out there somewhere. With you being the only semi-important goodie anyone is aware of, you're decently likely to survive another couple of nights. Had you not done anything, you could easily be dead.
Speaking of which, if there's a priest guild, a seers guild, and a GA guild all with replaceable members, the village should start coordinating... well now. Surely the seers and priests could team to start clearing people. You guys both wanna scan, say... me? I'm OEO so hunting me would be obnoxious.
Maybe Liefwarrior can become more than a 1 vote candidate today, then?
I sent messages to Capi, Audren, and Cu;ann yesterday. I didn't want them to die if they had useful traits. Culann claimed witness, I got silence from Capi and Audren. Witness is a fairly bold claim for a baddie as it could make the other pack want to kill him (like say... Panzer last game), so I figured it was likely genuine. I was also somewhat skeptical of Audren and Capi as candidates so I didn't really feel like switching to them. For me it was enough to get people of Culann. I did contemplate switching to Graymarch, actually, but figured it was too late for such maneuvers so I figured I'd just stay put. I believe I clearly acted in the village's interest. While one could view my actions through a wolfish lens, simply not liking the other candidates for the day coupled with simple inertia was more like it.
3. aedan777 -- Cast a vote on someone he wouldn't mind seeing die (yak) and vanished for the day on day 1. Voted Spock for possibly saving Matthew day 1 and mildly sketchy behavior (though spock is usually kinda fishy). Preferred Capi to Audren and Culann at deadline yesterday (as did I). Now is voting me.
4. Dedonus -- Cast an arbitrary early vote on Avernite and vanished for the day. Avernite was a legitimate contender for most of the day, so can't call it a throw-away. Voted Graymarch for pushing Claude into the top tier of candidates with his 'random' vote on day 2. Neutral read on Dedonus so far. He's helpful enough that I don't want him dead without a good case.
5. MatthewFW190 -- Zombie. Still hasn't voted. Failed to gain traction yesterday as a CAWZ candidate primarily due to the preferences of Avernite, Spock, and Euro. Cast a quick vote on Capi the villager day 2 and vanished again. Yakman might be Yakman, but if we're ever looking to CAWZ, here's our man.
6. Culann --Voted Audren for being the first to push someone (avernite) to 3 votes day 1, before switching (justifiably!) to Marco for Marco's odd DeChat vote, then vanished. Voted Capi for self-preservation reasons day 2, has claimed witness. While this could technically be a lie, I don't think it is. Not a good candidate.
7. LatinKaiser -- All eyes are on our TIE-breaker. I'm generally against lynching people for breaking day 1 ties (I would've broken the TIE the other way, but this is easier to say in hindsight). Woe is him should Marco flip baddie at some point. I've seen baddies risk such moves before, but it's probably the exception rather than the rule. Cast a probably incorrect vote on Culann yesterday, faulting him for cursory analysis. Doesn't really make LK evil though. All else being equal, still actually leaning villager here for breaking the tie.
8. the_hdk -- An inscrutable one. Brought Witch Agatha into an early TIE with Claudius early yesterday, then vanished, but continued to comment. Voted Capi yesterday, don't really understand his FatWombat vote for today.
9. De Chatillôn -- Cast a 1st vote on FatWombat yesterday before getting voted for bandwagoning by Marco. Vanished since then. Accused by Avernite of casting the last 'unserious' vote, but I'd argue this was Graymarch. FW ultimately proved a throw-away vote. Voted Audren yesterday for questionable reasoning. Neutral read so far.
10. Sleepyhead -- Voted me early, before being the first Marco voter. Suggests Arky could have alibi voted Dedonus, which is technically a possibility, but I don't know if it's enough to make me want to kill Dedonus. Suggested Culann might be videonfanning, which is probably not the case. None of this makes Sleepy good or evil in my book yet.
11. Claude LC -- The finest of the Zombies voted Marco purely in self defense, which is hard to read. If he ever flips evil, the Panzer voters (Capi, Spock, Euro) might look a little suspicious. Didn't appear yesterday. Oh, Claude. Don't make us regret not killing you day 1.
12. Liefwarrior -- Wanted to see more Wombat-Wombat combat. Was disappointed in this, but didn't seem to bother him too much. Cast a very low-energy vote against Claude for being 'saved' possibly while pleading business.
You seem to be arguing either Audren or Culann was saved. Culann has claimed a semi-important village role, so, um, yeah. Saving him was in the village's interest. Audren certainly isn't clear, but it's perfectly plausible he's innocent too. As a class, people who participate in last minute switches aren't more or less likely to be evil than those who don't. On the whole, this is alarmingly bad reasoning, almost enough to make me want to tunnel him.
13. Wagonlitz -- Voted aedan early and vanished yesterday. Points out that it is possible to fit Euro's actions into a baddie narrative, and was notably correct. Minor goodie points.
14. Audren -- Was the 1st person to push any voter to 3 votes with his Avernite vote (possibly benefiting Claude, Agatha, and Yvanoff), then vanished. Got lots of attention yesterday for questionable comments about guild membership. Euro was perfectly happy killing him day 2, so some separation from the Bougie pack. Don't know how productive trying to kill him again will be.
16. Avernite -- Initially voted called out Yvanoff for his populist demagoguery, whipping up hatred for all things Danish (an arguably legitimate behavioral read!). Was instrumental in guaranteeing Panzer rather than Matthew was the primary 'switch-to' candidate close to deadline, thus fulfilling Johho's pattern of vote switches. Throw-away on DeChat yesterday, now is voting me. Meh.
17. Witch Agatha -- Fellow Matthew voter, Clearly intended to vote no-show voters. Voted Graymarch for 'randomly' voting Claude day 1, possibly to the benefit of Marco, avernite, Yvanoff, or Wombat. Her instincts seem to be good so far.
19. R.Graymarch -- Cast a vote that he goes to lengths to assure us is Random, but pushes Claude into the top candidate tier, possibly to the benefit of Marco, Avernite, or even Yvanoff or either Wombat. Was pretty quiet yesterday, eventually latching onto Capibara. Analysis is hard day 2, so I'm tempted to cut him some slack, but he could use additional probing.
20. Beartjah -- Very quiet so far. Voted Yvanoff early and vanished day 1, then voted Capi before vanishing day 2. Everyone's friendly neighborhood Meh-Bear can be slow to activate, but I find I like having him around. This will buy him a few days of rest before further analysis will be demanded.
21. Yvanoff -- Cast a 'demagogic' vote against Noble Wagon early day 1, then vanished... ...only to reappear shortly after deadline. Potential lurker. Should probably keep an eye on him. Was briefly a top-tier contender, so the late switchers could have been helping him. Voted Witch Agatha for not explaining her vote day 1, even though it was pretty clear she was voting people who hadn't appeared. Expressed disbelief that one could be a member of a guild and a baddie, which I'm guessing is incorrect. One could argue this makes him a goodie, but this could just be misdirection. Hmm. Not too impressive so far.
22. Johho --An early would-be Claude killer. Pioneering Audren voter yesterday for his guild speculation. Has been relatively quiet so far, but is helpful to have around.
23. MarcoRossolini -- Voted DeChat for sketchy reasons day 1, almost died before being saved by Euro(!) Spock, Capibara, LK, and Avernite. Didn't appear day 2.
25. Spockyt -- Created early TIE by voting Avernite, possibly to the benefit of Witch Agatha or Claude. Showed up near deadline to disparage the current set of (day 1) candidates (as if we'd have a compelling one) before voting known-villager Panzer for the same offense for which I dinged Matthew. Followed it up today by voting pathetically easy lynch Yakman.
Were you hoping to kill the witness? These attempts at snark often get Spock killed.
26. TheFatWombat -- Wanted to kill his wombat brethren day 1, voted Audren for guild speculation yesterday, before switching to Capi to prevent a TIE. Now is voting Yakman for trolling. Yakman's votes do kinda make sense, though, and he's a very convenient punching bag.
27. deathbywombat -- Another tough one to read, capable of putting on a very convincing show as a baddie. Half-tempted to read the switch to Arky as an alibi vote. Skeptical of the Capi case, and ended up voting Audren after probing at some of the quieter players (didn't seem to have a lot of time yesterday). Not ready to kill him as he does inspire the rest of us to play better while he's alive and there's no solid case.
28. Yakman -- Is the infamous Yakman. Is further analysis possible. Voted Matthew and Marco. Both of these are legitimate defensible votes, really. Just don't expect Yakman to do the explaining. This, and his short life expectancy, is enough to keep me off him for now.
I really just want to vote Liefwarrior again. No one else is really jumping out at me as being likely evil. Marco, Matthew, and Claude are okay for CAWZ ( Marco and Claude could have been saved by Yuro day 1 too, and the resistance to Matthew as an alternative candidate was notbale). Don't really like what I've seen from Yvanoff so far. Next pick would probably be Graymarch.
VOTE YVANOFF
Videonfanning is expressing an untoward level of remorse over the death of a villager / seer etc. "Oh Noes, the seer is dead! We're doomed!" I'm sure Wagonlitz will proceed to quote the whole 5-year-old Lite game any minute now. Waffle? Wafl? Wolf?
Rooklie mistake? I saved you from the lynch! Though admittedly not as elegantly as I had planned to. Better hunted than lynched. Plus. Apparently there's a Guardian Angel commission and a doctor out there somewhere. With you being the only semi-important goodie anyone is aware of, you're decently likely to survive another couple of nights. Had you not done anything, you could easily be dead.
Speaking of which, if there's a priest guild, a seers guild, and a GA guild all with replaceable members, the village should start coordinating... well now. Surely the seers and priests could team to start clearing people. You guys both wanna scan, say... me? I'm OEO so hunting me would be obnoxious.
Maybe Liefwarrior can become more than a 1 vote candidate today, then?
I sent messages to Capi, Audren, and Cu;ann yesterday. I didn't want them to die if they had useful traits. Culann claimed witness, I got silence from Capi and Audren. Witness is a fairly bold claim for a baddie as it could make the other pack want to kill him (like say... Panzer last game), so I figured it was likely genuine. I was also somewhat skeptical of Audren and Capi as candidates so I didn't really feel like switching to them. For me it was enough to get people of Culann. I did contemplate switching to Graymarch, actually, but figured it was too late for such maneuvers so I figured I'd just stay put. I believe I clearly acted in the village's interest. While one could view my actions through a wolfish lens, simply not liking the other candidates for the day coupled with simple inertia was more like it.
3. aedan777 -- Cast a vote on someone he wouldn't mind seeing die (yak) and vanished for the day on day 1. Voted Spock for possibly saving Matthew day 1 and mildly sketchy behavior (though spock is usually kinda fishy). Preferred Capi to Audren and Culann at deadline yesterday (as did I). Now is voting me.
4. Dedonus -- Cast an arbitrary early vote on Avernite and vanished for the day. Avernite was a legitimate contender for most of the day, so can't call it a throw-away. Voted Graymarch for pushing Claude into the top tier of candidates with his 'random' vote on day 2. Neutral read on Dedonus so far. He's helpful enough that I don't want him dead without a good case.
5. MatthewFW190 -- Zombie. Still hasn't voted. Failed to gain traction yesterday as a CAWZ candidate primarily due to the preferences of Avernite, Spock, and Euro. Cast a quick vote on Capi the villager day 2 and vanished again. Yakman might be Yakman, but if we're ever looking to CAWZ, here's our man.
6. Culann --Voted Audren for being the first to push someone (avernite) to 3 votes day 1, before switching (justifiably!) to Marco for Marco's odd DeChat vote, then vanished. Voted Capi for self-preservation reasons day 2, has claimed witness. While this could technically be a lie, I don't think it is. Not a good candidate.
7. LatinKaiser -- All eyes are on our TIE-breaker. I'm generally against lynching people for breaking day 1 ties (I would've broken the TIE the other way, but this is easier to say in hindsight). Woe is him should Marco flip baddie at some point. I've seen baddies risk such moves before, but it's probably the exception rather than the rule. Cast a probably incorrect vote on Culann yesterday, faulting him for cursory analysis. Doesn't really make LK evil though. All else being equal, still actually leaning villager here for breaking the tie.
8. the_hdk -- An inscrutable one. Brought Witch Agatha into an early TIE with Claudius early yesterday, then vanished, but continued to comment. Voted Capi yesterday, don't really understand his FatWombat vote for today.
9. De Chatillôn -- Cast a 1st vote on FatWombat yesterday before getting voted for bandwagoning by Marco. Vanished since then. Accused by Avernite of casting the last 'unserious' vote, but I'd argue this was Graymarch. FW ultimately proved a throw-away vote. Voted Audren yesterday for questionable reasoning. Neutral read so far.
10. Sleepyhead -- Voted me early, before being the first Marco voter. Suggests Arky could have alibi voted Dedonus, which is technically a possibility, but I don't know if it's enough to make me want to kill Dedonus. Suggested Culann might be videonfanning, which is probably not the case. None of this makes Sleepy good or evil in my book yet.
11. Claude LC -- The finest of the Zombies voted Marco purely in self defense, which is hard to read. If he ever flips evil, the Panzer voters (Capi, Spock, Euro) might look a little suspicious. Didn't appear yesterday. Oh, Claude. Don't make us regret not killing you day 1.
12. Liefwarrior -- Wanted to see more Wombat-Wombat combat. Was disappointed in this, but didn't seem to bother him too much. Cast a very low-energy vote against Claude for being 'saved' possibly while pleading business.
You seem to be arguing either Audren or Culann was saved. Culann has claimed a semi-important village role, so, um, yeah. Saving him was in the village's interest. Audren certainly isn't clear, but it's perfectly plausible he's innocent too. As a class, people who participate in last minute switches aren't more or less likely to be evil than those who don't. On the whole, this is alarmingly bad reasoning, almost enough to make me want to tunnel him.
13. Wagonlitz -- Voted aedan early and vanished yesterday. Points out that it is possible to fit Euro's actions into a baddie narrative, and was notably correct. Minor goodie points.
14. Audren -- Was the 1st person to push any voter to 3 votes with his Avernite vote (possibly benefiting Claude, Agatha, and Yvanoff), then vanished. Got lots of attention yesterday for questionable comments about guild membership. Euro was perfectly happy killing him day 2, so some separation from the Bougie pack. Don't know how productive trying to kill him again will be.
16. Avernite -- Initially voted called out Yvanoff for his populist demagoguery, whipping up hatred for all things Danish (an arguably legitimate behavioral read!). Was instrumental in guaranteeing Panzer rather than Matthew was the primary 'switch-to' candidate close to deadline, thus fulfilling Johho's pattern of vote switches. Throw-away on DeChat yesterday, now is voting me. Meh.
17. Witch Agatha -- Fellow Matthew voter, Clearly intended to vote no-show voters. Voted Graymarch for 'randomly' voting Claude day 1, possibly to the benefit of Marco, avernite, Yvanoff, or Wombat. Her instincts seem to be good so far.
19. R.Graymarch -- Cast a vote that he goes to lengths to assure us is Random, but pushes Claude into the top candidate tier, possibly to the benefit of Marco, Avernite, or even Yvanoff or either Wombat. Was pretty quiet yesterday, eventually latching onto Capibara. Analysis is hard day 2, so I'm tempted to cut him some slack, but he could use additional probing.
20. Beartjah -- Very quiet so far. Voted Yvanoff early and vanished day 1, then voted Capi before vanishing day 2. Everyone's friendly neighborhood Meh-Bear can be slow to activate, but I find I like having him around. This will buy him a few days of rest before further analysis will be demanded.
21. Yvanoff -- Cast a 'demagogic' vote against Noble Wagon early day 1, then vanished... ...only to reappear shortly after deadline. Potential lurker. Should probably keep an eye on him. Was briefly a top-tier contender, so the late switchers could have been helping him. Voted Witch Agatha for not explaining her vote day 1, even though it was pretty clear she was voting people who hadn't appeared. Expressed disbelief that one could be a member of a guild and a baddie, which I'm guessing is incorrect. One could argue this makes him a goodie, but this could just be misdirection. Hmm. Not too impressive so far.
22. Johho --An early would-be Claude killer. Pioneering Audren voter yesterday for his guild speculation. Has been relatively quiet so far, but is helpful to have around.
23. MarcoRossolini -- Voted DeChat for sketchy reasons day 1, almost died before being saved by Euro(!) Spock, Capibara, LK, and Avernite. Didn't appear day 2.
25. Spockyt -- Created early TIE by voting Avernite, possibly to the benefit of Witch Agatha or Claude. Showed up near deadline to disparage the current set of (day 1) candidates (as if we'd have a compelling one) before voting known-villager Panzer for the same offense for which I dinged Matthew. Followed it up today by voting pathetically easy lynch Yakman.
Were you hoping to kill the witness? These attempts at snark often get Spock killed.
26. TheFatWombat -- Wanted to kill his wombat brethren day 1, voted Audren for guild speculation yesterday, before switching to Capi to prevent a TIE. Now is voting Yakman for trolling. Yakman's votes do kinda make sense, though, and he's a very convenient punching bag.
27. deathbywombat -- Another tough one to read, capable of putting on a very convincing show as a baddie. Half-tempted to read the switch to Arky as an alibi vote. Skeptical of the Capi case, and ended up voting Audren after probing at some of the quieter players (didn't seem to have a lot of time yesterday). Not ready to kill him as he does inspire the rest of us to play better while he's alive and there's no solid case.
28. Yakman -- Is the infamous Yakman. Is further analysis possible. Voted Matthew and Marco. Both of these are legitimate defensible votes, really. Just don't expect Yakman to do the explaining. This, and his short life expectancy, is enough to keep me off him for now.
I really just want to vote Liefwarrior again. No one else is really jumping out at me as being likely evil. Marco, Matthew, and Claude are okay for CAWZ ( Marco and Claude could have been saved by Yuro day 1 too, and the resistance to Matthew as an alternative candidate was notbale). Don't really like what I've seen from Yvanoff so far. Next pick would probably be Graymarch.
VOTE YVANOFF
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