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I'll switch things up and vote for Johho in the interests of letting Wagon have one more day of freedom.

Vote Johho
 
Since he's lagging behind the other candidates. Can't say I have much of a preference between any of them. Maybe Wagon the least cause beartjah has done literally nothing, whereas Agatha has only done basically nothing?

VOTE JOHHO
 
Great minds? :p
 
Good thing I can’t sleep I guess. I’ll move with JL.

Unvote R.Greymarch
Vote Witch Agatha
 
Not really much on these candidates. I'm slightly disinclined on Johho. It's unfortunate for Wagon to sub into a role that might be lynched today, but we're a fair part into the game, so we can't just ignore a subbing in player. More suspicious of beartjah's record than Agatha's.

Unvote Graymarch Vote Beartjah/Wagonlitz 2.0
 
aedan777 said:
Not really much on these candidates. I'm slightly disinclined on Johho. It's unfortunate for Wagon to sub into a role that might be lynched today, but we're a fair part into the game, so we can't just ignore a subbing in player. More suspicious of beartjah's record than Agatha's.

Unvote Graymarch Vote Beartjah/Wagonlitz 2.0
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What part of beartjah's record strikes you as more suspicious than Agatha's?
 
Audren said:
What part of beartjah's record strikes you as more suspicious than Agatha's?
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It's a minor thing, but between De Chat voting Agatha yesterday and Beartjah having only voted De Chat temporarily a few days ago before switching off, I'm slightly more suspicious of Beartjah's record.
 
Votecount, 40 minutes to deadline:

Witch Agatha - 5: liefwarrior [690], Spockyt [696], LatinKaiser [700], Culann [R.Graymarch 689 -> 705], R.Graymarch [709]

Wagonlitz 2.0 - 4: johho [688], Sleepyhead [694], deathbywombat [697], Aedan [R.Graymarch 686 -> 706]

johho - 4: Avernite [TheFatWombat 656 -> 692], Witch Agatha [698], MarcoRossolini [701], Audren [702]

Culann - 1: Yakman [665]

Not-Voted - 3: @alynkio, @TheFatWombat, @Wagonlitz
 
liefwarrior said:
The JL humbly requests that you listen to this message.
We do not oppose cases on the following:
~ WitchAgatha
~ Beartjah/Wagon
~ johho
This is not to say that we advise any such individual, only that these are our preferred candidates. Voting elsewhere will be considered with suspicion.
This is your JL spokesperson signing out for the night. For the Party, Comrades.
​
To keep some alternatives
Vote WitchAgatha
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Ugh. Heavy handed and unnecessarily early in the day. Gives information to the wolves about who's on and off limits to vote for, potentially informing their hunts. This could have easily been saved until an hour before deadline to let the village naturally deliberate. I much prefered the wombat list.

deathbywombat said:
Tier 4: The rest (10 in all). These require some more attention, as the baddies are almost certainly found in this group.
3. aedan777
6. Culann - claims witness
16. Avernite
17. Witch Agatha
19. R.Graymarch
20. Beartjah
22. Johho as Pippi Långstrump
26. TheFatWombat
27. deathbywombat - claims traitless villager
28. Yakman - apparently claimed traitless villager to me and a one time power to Avernite
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If the councils have good reasons for excluding, say, the ever-furtive Graymarch or the difficult-to-read Aedan from consideration, I mean, good. I can only hope such decisions are being made in accordance with wisdom. This will only lead to JL induced village brain rot, however, as now the JL is doing our thinking for us.

Of course, if Johho, BeartjahLitz, and Witch Agatha are good candidates, the answer is to TIE them, unless one of them has something really good to say. Watering the Shrubbery of Justice with the Blood of the Innocent is cruel logic, but effective.

aedan777 said:
I was also starting to get suspicious of Johho until post #661 where he responded to Avernite saying he was surprised De Chat was still in a pack. Both of them made the mistake of apparently thinking De Chat was from the pack which had previously lost multiple wolves and a zealot previously, which is not the case. I think it would be less likely for a pack aligned baddie to make this mistake.
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Johho was probably my #2 candidate yesterday, but this was an interesting observation from Aedan.

Apparently there were 4 wolves/zealots in the Bougie pack, but we haven't uncovered a Bougie cultist. I had figured the Bougie wolves were done. Extra starting baddies to compensate them for an un-killable seer?

I'm seeing DeChat's vote against Agatha as more clearing than Beartjah's immediately-dropped Anti-DeChat vote day 3. There was a legitimate case to be made against Agatha for quietness yesterday, and she could have taken off. Generally speaking, I find Witch Agatha, while still quiet, to be playing more openly than she did last game (where she wasn't explaining her votes at all) when she was a baddie.

Sorry Wagon. You'll be remembered this game for your effective prosecution of the Bougie pack, not for your unfortunately-timed Beartjah sub-in.

Gonna reiterate. If Johho, Wagon/Beartjah, and Agatha are all good candidates, we should kill them all in a mass-TIE. Or at least 2 of them.


VOTE WAGONLITZ V2.0, AKA 'THE MEH-WAGON'
 
Of the people being run up Johho has been the most active so I would prefer to not lynch him at least.
Now the proposed TIE does have merit, but I feel like it may be rather difficult to pull off as Wagon does appear to be preparing a votesnipe. And I certainly shouldn't try to countersnipe. ;) So if that's what we're going for it makes sense to put him one up, although it does "risk" Agatha surviving.

Vote Wagonlitz
 
I'm in favor of a TIE between the meh-Wagon and WitchAgatha.
 
I would probably prefer TIEing johho with one of them, since a baddie johho provides us more potential info than either beartjah or Agatha, but I'm not too bothered by the alternative.
 
Deadline.
 
Votecount Day 6
  • Index
    • Votecount, deadline:

    Witch Agatha - 6: liefwarrior [690], Spockyt [696], LatinKaiser [700], Culann [R.Graymarch 689 -> 705], R.Graymarch [709], Witch Agatha [johho 698 -> Wagonlitz 716 -> WAGONLITZ USES TRANSLATOR TO MOVE TO WITCH AGATHA]

    Wagonlitz 2.0 - 6: johho [688], Sleepyhead [694], deathbywombat [697], Aedan [R.Graymarch 686 -> 706], Alynkio [712], TheFatWombat [713]

    johho - 3: Avernite [TheFatWombat 656 -> 692], MarcoRossolini [701], Audren [702]

    Culann - 1: Yakman [665]

    Not-Voted - 1: Wagonlitz
     
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