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Tinto Maps #12 - 26th of July 2024 - Germany

Hello, and welcome to another new Tinto Maps! I’m back to duty, after the review of Italy that we posted last Thursday, and Johan taking care of Scandinavia last Friday. Today we will be taking a look at Germany! This region comprises the modern territories of Czechia, Austria, Switzerland, and Liechtenstein. However, for most of the timeline in Project Caesar, it was better known as the Holy Roman Empire. This organization once was a feudal empire elevated from the Kingdom of the Germans, but by 1337 was mostly disaggregated into a multitude of temporal and ecclesiastical jurisdictions, with only a tenuous feudal relationship with their Emperor.

Let’s start diving deep into this nightmare, then…

Countries:
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I’m showing here a bit more of what the region is, so you can have a clear depiction of how it looks compared to the neighboring regions we’ve previously shown (and so that the Reddit guy who is patchworking the world map has an easier day ). What I can say about this when the map speaks for itself… The lands of Germany are highly fractured among different principalities, making for an extremely complex political situation. The Emperor in 1337 was Louis IV von Wittelsbach of Upper Bavaria… Because, yes, Bavaria is also divided. He is married to Margaret of Avesnes, daughter of Count William of Hainaut, Holland, and Zeleand, while his son Louis is the Margrave of Brandenburg. But probably the strongest power of the period is the Kingdom of Bohemia, whose king John also Duke Luxembourg and rules over both lands in a personal union, while also being overlord of the Margraviate of Moravia, ruler by his son Charles, and the Silesian principalities. The third contender probably is the Duchy of Austria, ruled by Albert II von Habsburg. He also rules over some lands in the formed Duchies of Swabia and Carinthia. There are also plenty of medium and small countries all over the region, with very different forms of government, which will probably make this HRE a very replayable experience…

Dynasties:
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The dynastical map of the HRE gives a nice picture of the situation explained in the previous one. The von Wittelsbach, de Luxembourg (John of Bohemia is considered of French culture, therefore it uses the French toponymic article ‘de’; if he would change to the German culture, then it would be the ‘von Luxembourg’ dynasty), and von Habsburg cover much of the map; you may note that the Wittelsbach rule over five different countries (Upper Bavaria, Lower Bavaria, the Palatinate of the Rhine, and Brandenburg); while the House of Luxembourg also control the Archbishopric of Trier through Balduin, uncle of King John. Other important dynasties, although in a secondary position, are the Welfen, von Mecklenburg, and Gryf, present in multiple countries to the north; the Askanier, who happen to control half of Upper Saxony, while the rest is in the hands of the von Wettin; and the von Görz, who rule over the Duchy of Tirol and the County of Gorizia.

HRE:
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We obviously have to repost the HRE IO map again here. The purple stripes mark the imperial territory, while the different types of members use different colors. We currently have these divisions in the IO: the Emperor (1, dark blue), Prince-Electors (4, light blue), Archbishop-Electors (3, medium blue), Free Imperial Cities (23, light green), Imperial Peasant Republics (2, orange), Imperial Prelates (44, white), and Regular Members (280, dark green). So, yeah, that make for a total of 357 countries that are part of the HRE. And before you ask: No, we won’t talk about its mechanics today, that will happen in future Tinto Talks.

Locations:
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Germany has the highest density of locations in the world, as we wanted to portray the historical fragmentation of the HRE at the most detailed level of any Paradox GSG. There are a couple of things that we are aware of and we want to rework: the location connections (as in some places they are not obvious at all, and we want to make warfare in the HRE not impossible); and the transition between the German locations and those at their east, making it smoother (something that we will be doing in the review of Poland, Hungary and this region [e.g. for Bohemia]). A final comment: if you click on the spoiler button, you may be able to see 4 more detailed maps of the region.

Provinces:
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Map of provinces. As usual, suggestions are welcomed.

Areas:
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Areas. We are currently not happy with the area borders (or at least, one of our German content designers isn't, and let me note it while preparing the DD... ;) ), as they reflect more modern areas so we will be looking into an alternative setup for them with your feedback. They also currently use their German names, which will change to English ones to be in line with other areas, as usual.

Terrain:
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Terrain mapmodes. The region is quite forested, in comparison to other parts of Europe.

Culture:
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Let’s open the Pandora box and take a look at the cultures! The German cultures have come through a couple of reworks, until we’ve found a spot in which we’re kind of happy (or, at least, our German content designers do not complain!). The German cultures are very linguistically related, as we thought that it would be the best starting point for 1337. Please let us know about your thoughts on them.

Religion:
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Boring religion map this week, as the region is overwhelmingly Catholic. There are Ashkenazi Jews in a bunch of places (a quick account: they’re present in 204 locations all over Central and Eastern Europe), and you may also see the Waldesians we added in the review of Italy last week.

Raw Materials:
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Raw materials! Plenty of!

Markets:
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The main market centers of the region are Cologne, Lúbeck, and Prague. We have reviewed them a couple of times, and this is the configuration that makes for a good setup historical and gameplay-wise. And you may also see Bruges, which has been reinstated as the main market of the Low Countries, after some tweaks.

Country and Location Population:
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The population of the HRE is… Fragmented. In that regard, Bohemia starts in a very strong position, with a strong competitor to its south (Austria) and north (Brandenburg).

And that’s it for today! I hope that we didn’t drive you into madness with this map… Next week we will take to a very different region, the Maghreb! See you then!
 
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Suggestions for Mecklenburg (and surrounding areas):

4. Edit:
I saw that lakes have been added to other maps. Will the Müritz also be added as a lake? Other lakes in the Mecklenburg region include the Schweriner See, the Kummerower See, the Plauer See, and the Tollensesee. Especially in the so-called „Mecklenburgische Seenplatte“, there are many other lakes, but they are probably too small to be considered.

I have another comment regarding natural harbors. What criteria apply to a 100% natural harbor? I’m asking, because Rostock seems like a 100% natural harbor to me.

3. Edit: I used a map from Wikipedia for my original post and edit. I found a few more maps that show the region in greater detail. I got the maps from the Landeszentrale für politische Bildung Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. I saw that @Palando posted a map with the same borders. So I think the map from Wikipedia is probably not very accurate. This changed a few things about my original post. I left my original maps and the map from Wikipedia I used originally as attachments, so you can better understand my thought process.

2. Edit: I thought about a few points I made and tried redrawing the locations and provinces that I think are the most accurate. Also I noticed a few other people talking about this area. Since I don’t know how to quote them correctly, I will just mention when I refer to another user. Sorry about that.

First I want to say, that I love the map! I’m really looking forward to play another few thousand hours as my beloved Mecklenburg! :p
I saw a few comments about inaccuracies in the Mecklenburg area and surrounding areas, but I wanted to add a few things. I didn’t read everything, so my apologies if you have to read things twice.

Another thing that I want to add before I start talking about the maps. As you mentioned yourself the von Mecklenburgs were an important dynastie in the HRE. Unfortunately this is not represented in EU4 at all. There is almost no flavor to playing Mecklenburg. Trust me, I played it a few times…
I don’t think this is the right time to do this, but I don’t want Mecklenburg to be overlooked (again). For example: the university of Rostock was founded in 1419 making it the oldest northern German university and the oldest university in the baltic region.
I hope there will be more flavor for Mecklenburg in “Project Caesar”.



1. Güstrow and Waren
- the correct names for this principality’s would be Werle-Güstrow and Werle-Waren Werle-Goldberg (the split into Werle-Güstrow and Werle-Waren was in 1347 according to my source. The principality was also referred to as Werle-Parchim, I‘m not sure which one would be correct name. I took the name from my source.)
- I get that those names would be a little long, but Güstrow should be named properly (with ü) at least
- the location should be named Güstrow as well
- Parchim belonged to Mecklenburg and not to Werle-Güstrow
- to represent the southern parts of Werle-Güstrow the now location of Parchim could be cut in half. One half (Parchim) going to Mecklenburg and the other half (new location called: Plau am See Malchow) should go to Werle-Güstrow.

  • Parchim should be a part of Werle-Goldberg. If you decide Werle-Parchim is the more accurate name, the location Goldberg (nr. 9 on my map) could be added to the location Parchim or its name could be changed to Sternberg and given to Mecklenburg.
  • As you can see on the map, that I used as a source, the former Werle region was a mess around that time. I would love to draw the region as accurate as possible, but this would lead to a very ugly map and also to very small locations. So I made some decisions.
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2. Anclem
- the german name for this location would be Anklam

3. Rostock
- Rostock was not independent in 1337
- Mecklenburg won against Denmark in 1323 and took Rostock and the surrounding areas

4. Doberan
- the area surrounding Rostock and Doberan were cleared during the colonization of those lands. I think there should be at least a few areas with woods. Also I’m not sure if salt being produced in Doberan is accurate. Most accurate would be lumber I believe (because of the clearings. A lot of the town names in that region are references to lumber camps)
- I thought about it and Doberan just wasn’t that relevant around that time. Kröpelin already gained city status. I would suggest changing the name to Kröpelin. As somebody else mentioned wheat or something similar should fit best for this location.

5. The county of Schwerin, bishopric of Schwerin and Ratzeburg
- you can see in the picture I attached, that there is a difference between the bishopric and the county of Schwerin. I get why you don’t show both, but as of right now, I believe the county of Schwerin is over represented.
- maybe make Schwerin smaller and add some of the land to the location of Parchim. That way it would be easier to make a new location Plau am See Malchow too.
- if you decide to show both the county and the bishopric of Schwerin I think adding the location Bützow would make sense, since it was the biggest part of the bishopric
- you could take parts of the Wismar and Doberan location to make that location, and have it separate for the Schwerin location, to show the divide between the location in real life.
- adding Bützow as a location is still a maybe for me.
Since the bishopric of Ratzeburg is represented on the map, I think the bishopric of Schwerin should be too. It was similar in size.
- Bützow is number 8 on my map. You could cheat a little by calling it bishopric of Bützow, to not have to deal with two Schwerin tags. Since the majority of the land was surrounding Bützow it wouldn’t be too inaccurate.
- I read that somebody want‘s to put Ratzeburg into the Holstein province. I don’t think that’s accurate at all. If you look at any map from this time (the one I posted for example) you can see, that the area was mostly part of the Mecklenburg domaine and almost surrounded by it. Towns like Schönberg are part of Mecklenburg up to this day. Only the town of Ratzeburg itself is part of the state Schleswig-Holstein today.

6. Suggestions for changes of locations (with reference)

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- I took this and the map before as a reference to draw the new locations and make changes to old locations (source: Landeszentrale für politische Bildung)
- I did not finde a source to back up that Fürstenberg (and the part looking like a hook) was a part of Mecklenburg in 1337. It seems like it went to Mecklenburg in 1350. The year 1318 is the year Fürstenberg was founded, it was founded by an Askanier and belonged to Brandenburg (at least in 1318).
- The red line shows the outline of the Mecklenburg area. I tried to align the map I used with the original province map (of Tinto Maps). I used black when I stayed close to the original „locations“ around 1316. I used purple when I kind off made up borders to somehow make sense of this mess. The yellow dots show the biggest/ most important/ capital city of the „location“. I would propose to use this names as the names of the location. Then I tried to mark the „capital city“ by color to show which locations belong to the same tag.

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1 Ratzeburg (Ratzeburg)
2 Grevesmühlen (Mecklenburg)
3 Boitzenburg (or Boizenburg today) (county of Schwerin) I suggest renaming that location because around that time it was a big settlement with city status. According to my map (and Wikipedia) Hagenow didn’t have city status in 1337. Boizenburg seems to be know for ceramics.
4 Schwerin (county of Schwerin)
5 Grabow (Mecklenburg)
6 Wismar (Mecklenburg)
7 Kröpelin (Mecklenburg)
8 Bützow (bishopric of Schwerin)
9 Goldberg (Werle-Goldberg) Thoughts: see above
10 Parchim (Werle-Goldberg)
11 Malchow (Werle-Goldberg) The city is located on an island and is known for weaving. The surrounding area is wooded to this day. Fish or lumber would be accurate raw materials I assume.
12 Güstrow (Werle-Güstrow)
13 Rostock (Mecklenburg)
14 Ribnitz (Mecklenburg)
15 Neukalen (Werle-Güstrow) I would suggest an agrarian raw material for this location. Maybe name the location Teterow since it is inside my location borders. But I chose Neukalen because Teterow was part of Werle-Goldberg and I wanted to add another Werle-Güstrow location. To balance these two out.
16 Malchin (Werle-Goldberg)
17 Waren (Werle-Güstrow)
18 Neubrandenburg (Mecklenburg)
19 Strelitz (Mecklenburg)


7. The area of Pommern (Pomerania)
- the area of Mecklenburg is and was well known as Mecklenburg. Mecklenburg was never a part of Pomerania. Please just represent it as a separate area!


8. the provinces in the Mecklenburg and Pomerania region
- I’m sorry since I really like your work, but the provinces in Mecklenburg are just weird. I really like the name Gau Polabi, but I don’t think it’s historically accurate.
- in my opinion Pomerania should be divided in Hinterpommern and Vorpommern. Locations like Stralsund, Greifswald and Anklam should be part of Vorpommern.
- locations like Rostock, Güstrow and Neubrandenburg should be part of an eastern Mecklenburg Province. I don’t have a good name for it, since most names refer to smaller regions. Mecklenburgische Seenplatte would refer to parts of Parchim, Waren and parts of Malchin. Mecklenburgische Schweiz would refer to Güstrow and parts of Wismar and Malchin. Same goes for Mecklenburger Parkland. Mecklenburg-Strelitz would refer to Strelitz and Neubrandenburg. (I refer to the provinces on the map, the borders are different in real life)
- I will try to find out an accurate and fitting name for the provinces, since calling Güstrow a part of Stralsund just feels wrong

- somebody suggested to call the eastern parts Werle, and I think it would fit well. I drew a province map based on the current locations and one based on the locations I talk about before. I think in that case it would make sense to split it in three parts.
- I think a reference to the Obodrites in the western province would be more fitting than to the Polabs (source: Landesmuseum M-V) Maybe it could be called Obodritia or just Westmecklenburg.
- I drew the orange dotted line because it would make sense to include Rostock and Ribnitz into western Mecklenburg (or something similar) because it was not part of Werle. But it felt a little like border gore, so putting it into the Werle province would work I guess.
- I included the Strelitz location into a Werle province because only a very small part of the Strelitz location (namely Lychen) would actually be a part of the Uckermark. So I think it makes more sense to go with the majority.
- I also drew the lines of Vorpommern roughly. The dotted red line means, that it would probably make sense to divide it into northern and southern Vorpommern.
- Since I revised my locations map I had to draw a new province map. I admit, I’m still not 100% about it, but most of the things I said in earlier edits still stand (I didn’t cut those out).
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Green: Gau Polabi ; Westmecklenburg; Obodritia; Gau Obodritia
Blue: Rostock; Nordmecklenburg; Mecklenburgisches Parkland
Brown: Werle; Ostmecklenburg; Mecklenburgische Seenplatte; Mecklenburger Seenland


9. The culture divide between Western and Eastern Pomeranian
- I attached a picture of the colonization of the Mecklenburg and Pomerania area (source: Wikipedia)
- also here is a source (I took from Wikipedia) on the people who migrated to Mecklenburg: Elżbieta Foster, Cornelia Willich: Ortsnamen und Siedlungsentwicklung. Das nördliche Mecklenburg im Früh- und Hochmittelalter. (= Forschungen zur Geschichte und Kultur des östlichen Mitteleuropa, Bd. 31) Steiner, Stuttgart 2007, ISBN 978-3-515-08938-8, S. 38.
- I understand, that you separated culture by the language that people spoke.
- from what I read most german settlers came from other parts of the northern HRE like Holstein and Lower Saxony
- people from this area spoke (and still speak) Plattdeutsch (low german). There are variations of the dialect depending where people are from. People have their own dialect in Mecklenburg.
- I think there are three options to portray the culture in the Mecklenburg area.
1. Have german settlers represented as their original culture like lower saxon in the areas they settled in. The cities like Wismar, Rostock, Schwerin and so on should have a majority of german settlers. Have minorities of Polabians all over the place. Starting with the highest amount in the east and lowering it further west, since regions like Schwerin were colonized a longer time ago.
2. Have the german settlers be named as “Mecklenburgian” or “Mecklenburgish” since the majority of the land started being colonized 100 years prior to the start date and people probably spoke a similar langue by that time. For the rest see option 1.
3. Leave it as it is, but portray the western parts of Mecklenburg as Lower Saxon or Holsatian.


Thank you for reading this. This is my first post in this forum and I hope I did all right. If I come of as a little strong, keep in mind that there is a reason we have a bull with its tongue out as our coat of arms. :p;)

Edit.: I was not able to post links to the websites and articles I got most information from. If somebody could tell me how to post a link, without it being spam, I would appreciate it. If the dev team (or anyone else) wants to know my sources I can provide them to you.
 

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The Reichskreis was based on the earlier duchy, which ranged from the Voges to the Lech.
I agree with you that this is its origin, but by that definition Alsace and Chur would be considered Swabia as well because that's how far the duchy extended. My point is just that the region at the oberrhein was never referred to as swabia geographically, but only in administrative contexts (duchy of swabia and reichskreis of swabia) and thus I think it is not fitting to name it any derivative of that. (At least I could not find any sources that show that it was referred to as swabia geographically, but I am totally open to being proven wrong).
Meaning that if regions would be based on reichskreise, sure name it rhenish or westswabia.
But if regions will be based of geographic locations, which is just a personal preference of mine, I think Oberrhein, Rheinebene or Black Forest would be more fitting, depending on how they are laid out.
 
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I disagree on the Koblenz location. Even on the map you attach to the post it is seen that it didn't possess so much territory on the other side of the river.

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Koblenz city territory should be added to location called Mayen, where the other side can be named for example Eherenbreitstein. It was the biggest city on that river side.
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Edit: Also I am a great supporter of the Rhine river borders. And Ketzenelnbogen bothers me. It is sad that it is a historic border of the county. But I wish we all can close our eyes for that one...
It's easier said than done because there's no bloody river visible.
 
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Is it not enough with the HRE and the Catholic Church, that you already want even more wonky institutions in Germany? :p

I don't think we have any more IOs for the first two ages, but then things may spice up when the Age of Reformation and certain Saxonian priest appear...
A smaller IO you could potentially add which would add flavour is:

1. Three City League of Thuringia

The Thuringian League of Three Cities was a medieval city league between the three most powerful cities in the Thuringia region. It was largely a defensive alliance against the princely Wettin family of Saxony with some joint economic interests.


Proposal:

Create a small defensive league International Organization called the 'Three City League of Thuringia' with the following members Mühlhausen, Nordhausen and Erfurt​
Make sure Mühlhausen, Nordhausen and Erfurt have positive relations with each other and negative relations with Meissen and the Archbishopric of Mainz who should have a core on Erfurt.
 
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As someone from the region: I suggest changing the raw material for Lüneburg to salt. The salt dome under the city is what the wealth of the city was founded on.
 
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Idk if it has already been talked about, but I find it a little strange that there is not a single metal ressource in the Harz mountains which had a long history of ore mining. For example one of the most important ressources for Goslar was the mines at Rammelsberg which had been a place for mining for over 1000 years (and is now a world heritage site). The mine was first direct possession of the emperor, but over time it's imperial significance waned. The mountains were home mainly copper, zinc and lead and also silver and even a small amount of gold. My fourth source claims it was among the most important mines in (medieval) Germany, but all sources who could potentially shed more info are behind a paywall (so I cannot recommend them unless I am certain there is the information in there until I checked them).
In short: I think it would make sense to give at least Goslar one of the metals for which mining it was known and siginificant, instead of wool.

Sources:
https://en.harzinfo.de/poi/rammelsberg-museum-and-visitor-mine,
https://opendata.uni-halle.de/bitstream/1981185920/95780/1/hercynia_volume_10_2154.pdf (A list of mining operations in the North-Eastern Harz, in German)
https://bilder.buecher.de/zusatz/20/20805/20805427_lese_1.pdf (Short history about mining in the Harz mountains, touches on the middle ages sadly only shortly on page 11, in German)
Bartels, C., Fessner, M., Klappauf, L., Linke, F., 2007. "Kupfer, Blei und Silber aus dem Goslarer Rammelsberg von den Anfängen bis 1620" Bochum: Deutsches Bergbau-Museum. (This should have all the important information, but it is not available online (at least not for free), but is available in some libraries.)

I will see if I can update this post once I am back from holidays as well and look stuff up in libraries.
 
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We consider it reviewed, but I'll take a look, nonetheless.
I don't want to be annoying, but I was also late in responding during the first tinto talks.

Would you please please please, consider adding a Waterland location to north holland and change the borders a bit?
it's based on the historical regions of north holland.

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source map 1

source map 2
 
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4. Doberan
- the area surrounding Rostock and Doberan were cleared during the colonization of those lands. I think there should be at least a few areas with woods. Also I’m not sure if salt being produced in Doberan is accurate. Most accurate would be lumber I believe (because of the clearings. A lot of the town names in that region are references to lumber camps)
The area of the Hägerort (eastern half of the location) was heavily forested and not settled during slavic times, but the forests were cleared in the 13th century. The villages are named for the then already removed forest and are not lumber camps but agrarian. The western part of the location was and is still forested. Vegetation should probably indeed be woods.
Lumber or an agrarian good (sturdy grains, wheat, livestock) should fit as basic good.
Due to the settlement history, this location should probably also have a higher proportion of German vs. Polabian compared to oder rural parts of Mecklenburg.
1. Güstrow and Waren
- the correct names for this principality’s would be Werle-Güstrow and Werle-Waren
- I get that those names would be a little long, but Güstrow should be named properly (with ü) at least
- the location should be named Güstrow as well
- Parchim belonged to Mecklenburg and not to Werle-Güstrow
- to represent the southern parts of Werle-Güstrow the now location of Parchim could be cut in half. One half (Parchim) going to Mecklenburg and the other half (new location called: Plau am See) should go to Werle-Güstrow. It would be reasonable for lumber or fish to be produced in a location Plau am See.
Proposed part of this earlier myself. I'm not sure about the split of Parchim. The locations are getting quite small already. The current resulting borders are not too bad, and keeping the name Parchim represents that town at least. Parchimn itself was previously ruled by a cadet branch of Werle, and then split between Güstrow and Mecklenburg.
- I tried drawing my suggestion for new provinces: (1. beeing Parchim, 2. beeing Plau am See and 3. beeing Bützow
if Bützow is added, it needs to be bigger to reach the minimum size. Maybe attach more of the Wismar area (Sternberg) to it and expand the northern border a bit?
Potentially, this could become the bishopric of Schwerin as a new country.
- locations like Rostock, Güstrow and Neubrandenburg should be part of an eastern Mecklenburg Province. I don’t have a good name for it, since most names refer to smaller regions. Mecklenburgische Seenplatte would refer to parts of Parchim, Waren and parts of Malchin. Mecklenburgische Schweiz would refer to Güstrow and parts of Wismar and Malchin. Same goes for Mecklenburger Parkland. Mecklenburg-Strelitz would refer to Strelitz and Neubrandenburg. (I refer to the provinces on the map, the borders are different in real life)
- I will try to find out an accurate and fitting name for the provinces, since calling Güstrow a part of Stralsund just feels wrong
How about calling it Werle? Most of the locations included were once part of that principality after all.
2. Anclem
- the german name for this location would be Anklam
Historically Tanclam and Anclam were also used, but Anklam is already documented in 1283, so using the modern name is preferable indeed.
 
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Sorry for being late. Since there re so many zzz Franconian, is it possible to rename the Saxon culture to something like Upper Saxon?
 
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Feels wrong to me that there is 0 mountain locations IN Bohemia on its borders. Also no Farmlands in Bohemia? I dont know the games differentiation and definition for Grasslands vs Farmland, sorry. And Southern Bohemia on the other hand could get Písek to be Flatlands. I feel like the south with its many ponds nowadays is flat but maybe its just my feeling and the topography of the whole location is different. BUT it is not Hills like Krkonoše MOUNTAINS with its 1608m peak being a Hill by your games definition... :D
About the population of Bohemia and Moravia I have only read this nice document on the internet, quick summary: ESTIMATE and rounding of numbers of multiple historians is that at the start of the 15th century the population was around 2,5 million for Bohemia and Moravia. (That is 60 years after the start date of the game, and there was supposedly a big plague hit in 1380 in the Czech lands, 10-15% of population died) . So the numbers in game look on the low side to me but maybe someone can correct me or its better like this for overall balance, not up to me in the end. :)
 
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The city of Eutin is not in the Eutin province, maybe split the location and make an actual Eutin one while making the peninsula Wagrien or Oldenburg in Holstein. Would be more fitting in my opinion, as Oldenburg was just as relevant at the time too
 
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I agree with you that this is its origin, but by that definition Alsace and Chur would be considered Swabia as well because that's how far the duchy extended. My point is just that the region at the oberrhein was never referred to as swabia geographically, but only in administrative contexts (duchy of swabia and reichskreis of swabia) and thus I think it is not fitting to name it any derivative of that. (At least I could not find any sources that show that it was referred to as swabia geographically, but I am totally open to being proven wrong).
Meaning that if regions would be based on reichskreise, sure name it rhenish or westswabia.
But if regions will be based of geographic locations, which is just a personal preference of mine, I think Oberrhein, Rheinebene or Black Forest would be more fitting, depending on how they are laid out.
I agree on calling it Oberrhein, if you include Alsace.
 
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Another one of my masterpieces. After working on this the whole day I want to kill myself. Obviously alot left to do, especially the Tier locations are far from done but the freely available information is sparse to say the least.

1: Mainz, Mainz
2: Bingen, Mainz
3: Wiesbaden, Nassau
4: Usingen/Weilburg, Nassau
5: Dillenburg, Nassau
6: Altenkirchen, Sayn
7: Wied, Wied
8: Diez, Diez
9: Katzenellenbogen, Katzenellenbogen
10: Montabaur, Trier
11: Koblenz, Trier
12: ???, Trier
13: Daun, Trier
14: Prüm, Trier (Vassal?)
15: Trier, Trier
16: ???, Trier
17: Veldenz, Veldenz
18: Birkenfeld?, Sponheim
19: Starkenburg?, Sponheim
20: Simmern, Trier
21: Kreuznach, Sponheim
22: Alzey, Palatinate
23: Kaiserslautern, Trier or Bohemia
24: Worms/Leiningen, City of Worms or Bishopric of Worms, Leiningen
25: Mannheim/Neustadt, Palatinate
26: Speyer, City or Bishopric of Speyer
 
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