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Tinto Maps #15 - 23rd of August 2024 - Horn of Africa

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps! After a short break, we’re back to the duty of sharing more maps! Today the region we will look at is the Horn of Africa! So let’s take a look at it, without further ado:

Countries:
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Here we have the countries around Nubia, Ethiopia, and Somalia. The first ones are organized around the ancient kingdoms of Makuria and Alodia, which control the Upper Nile region. In the second area, the Empire of Ethiopia stands as the main power, with some smaller countries around it. Finally, the two Islamic sultanates of Ifat and Ajuraan stand as the main powers in the Horn and Somalia. Finally, around the African Great Lakes, there is a country that can be considered a ‘settled’ one, Kitara.

Dynasties:
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The dynasties of the Horn. There are some historical ones, while others are randomly generated. The most famous one is probably the Ethiopian House of Solomon, from where all their Negus come. The Walshma ruler over both Ifat and Ajuraan and we have some others, such as the Medri of Medri Bahri, the Umar of Mogadishu, the Banu Kanz of Makuria, or the Baranzi of Kitara.

Societies of Pops:
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A new map has popped up! Here you can see the countries that we consider as ‘Societies of Pops’, as they were presented in the last Tinto Talks. We have the famous Oromo people in the lands between Ethiopia, Ifat and Ajuraan; the Kunama, Gumuz, and Berta in the lands between Ethiopia; and Alodia, and the Zaghwa to the north of Wadai; there are a few more to the west, but I’ll share that picture in the Western Africa thread, as it’s more appropriate there. There are more Stateless Societies of this kind that we would like to add in the future, if it is possible due to our schedule.

Locations:
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Locations! You might notice that the density is quite unequal. Unfortunately, the archaeological findings for the period are scarce, specially out of the most known areas and a lack of urbanization in most of the territory has made the finding of proper non-anachronistic settlements quite a challenge. Keep this in mind when making suggestions. ;) It has been that dramatic in some areas that we had to use names of tribes and rivers, a bit contradicting our own rules, but the areas had to be represented as they were active parts in the development of the region.
One thing: a big chunk of the Arabian peninsula can be seen in today’s Tinto Maps; but, please, reserve the feedback for its future DD, when we’ll show all of the peninsula. Apart from that, you can see more detailed maps if you click on the spoiler button, as usual.


Provinces:
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Areas:
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Terrain:
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The terrain types of the region are quite interesting and diverse. It is marked by the Rift Valley, which creates different biomes, such as the Ethiopian Highlands and Plateau, or the African Great Lakes. That also marks a divide between Arid, Tropical, and Oceanic climates. The vegetation of the region also ranges from desertic and sparse, to jungle forests. And one more note: you may also note that 'Marshes' have been renamed into 'Wetlands', as we could put some work into that suggestion the last week.

Natural Harbors:
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Cultures:
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Another interesting map this week… You might notice that the lands of Ethiopia have a very mixed cultural situation. While more to the west and south, we are representing ‘tribal lands’ in a more homogeneous way, with kind of fixed boundaries to represent the different groupings. This doesn’t mean that there wouldn’t be a mixing of cultures, but this was one of the first areas to receive a minority's review and the scope was limited mostly to Ethiopia.

Religion:
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Another interesting map! Miaphysite and Sunni are the more widespread religions in the region (while not all areas have their mixed populations, such as Nubia as you might notice, they eventually will as we cover more of the map in our sprints). Animism is completely placeholder, as usual, and you might see some pockets here and there (If you have specific suggestions, please do them). You may also notice a purple minority inside Ethiopia… That is representing the Beta Israel Judaism in the provinces of Semien, of course!

Raw Materials:
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The raw materials of this week! A big chunk of the region has livestock as its main raw material, while also having some agricultural goods as Wheat or Sturdy Grains here and there. The most unique good in the region is Coffee, which is cultivated in the Ethiopian highlands. And there are also some precious resources spread here and there, such as Gold, Ivory, Gems, and Incense.

Markets:
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The main market centers of the region are Axum and Mogadishu, with ‘Adan/Aden being the main one controlling the access to the Red Sea. There are some weird calculations ongoing on the Somalian inner lands, that are already reported, and we’ll take a look at why is that happening.

Population:
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The population of the region! There are approximately 12.3M people in the Eastern African subcontinent; although take into account that it also comprises the regions of the Southern Great Lakes and the Swahili Coast, which we haven’t shown today, so we probably have to discount around 4M people from it (Swahili Coast accounts for 1.7M, and the Great Lakes for 4M, although that region is divided between today’s and next week’s Tinto Maps), for a total of around 8M.

That’s all for today! Speaking of next week’s Tinto Maps, it will be meaty, as it will cover Central, Eastern, and Southern Africa! See you!
 
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Good DD. Thanks for the map breakdown.
 
In 1335, Pate captured Mogadishu for a very long time.

I expected at least a little more countries. Indeed, there were few organized societies in Africa at that time, but it is strange to imagine decentralized tribal formations as a full-fledged part of another country (tribes within Dir-Ifat and Ajuran). It seems that we will not have the Congo in the game, because at this time, its capital alone consists of 7 kingdoms, and around it there are hundreds of even smaller towns-kingdoms. Well, at least then it will be possible to install modifications to Africa.

By the way, I continue to edit the map of the approximate location of the main tribes and kingdoms in 1348, while it is still a raw alpha version, about 9% of the map is wrong and I still don't like the design. I also want to compile a text document with all references to kingdoms/tribes/nationalities. But my vacation is coming to an end, I won't be able to actively edit the map anymore.

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They've said *many* *many* *many* times that the Poland map is taking extra long because they had so much feedback to review & so many improvements to make. The Iberian, French, and Italian reviews took very little time.
I know, I'm just worried since there are other maps up for review that also had tons and tons of feedback and it wouldn't surprise me if it takes the same amount of time to check through the sources and implement the mountains of changes. Just 1 long review can take months so I'm wary on how long it will take to complete the map review. I'm not complaining about the effort, I appreciate the care they put into it. I just wanted to know how long it will take so I could gage how actively I should wait.
 
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Ethiopian Jews are the only Jews in the world that practice a non-Talmudic form of Judaism.

Karaite Jews don't follow the Oral Law either. They only follow the Tanakh (Five Books of Moses + Nevi'im + Ketuvim).

Samaritans (who are not stricto sensu Jews but are counted as such by the State of Israel) only follow the Five Books of Moses.
 
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Regarding Societies of Peoples, I outright feel... deceived.

The 14th August Tinto Talks on colonization seems set up to make us believe that Stateless Societies were the replacement for usual Europa Universalis natives, analogous to Vic3's Decentralized Nations: Johan wrote about needing to overpower "countries in plural, and next week you will understand what we are talking about" like it's something you always deal with, and then showed a map of Scandinavia where every single uncolonized province was covered by some "[name] People" tag.

Then this Tinto Maps drops, and it turns out no, in large chunks of the world colonizers will find "empty" land and people that have little to no agency like in EU4 or Victoria II. I was hoping for better.
 
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I'm not entirely sure why are you so wary of anachronistic toponyms, considering that what we've seen so far of the Pontic Steppe region is chock-full of them.
It's also really hard to be certain of when certain African settlements were founded, so it might be safe to assume they are very ancient. For instance: the city of Jumba, the capital of South Sudan isn't represented on the map, supposedly because the modern city was founded in 1922, but before that there was a village also named Jumba that has existed since time immemorial.
Though I'm broadly very fine with peripheral or less richly-sourced regions being significantly less dense than the more core regions, I do worry this sort of concern might be less than fairly applied. I'm particularly dreading to find the North American map will have been drawn happily breaking this rule to hell and back only for the Subsahara and non-Andean South America to get the big chonkers because heaven forbid we take the name of a settlement that was founded only halfway through the game's period. Ultimately, I'd be quite comfortable with greater location density, even if some anachronisms are needed for some regions.
Oh, and for this map... I don't know. Really, really out of my depth, but the Upper Nile bits being so low on the location density looks a bit weird for me, yet I haven't any actual base to comment on beyond that.
 
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Two questions; why are only some of the tribes/cultures society of pops; and (this doesn’t relate to the tinto maps but I forgot to ask this in previous dev diaries) are you able to merge colonies? For example organizing the New England colonies into the dominion of New England, or uniting colonies in rebellion to form like the US
IIRC you are able to create as many colonial nations as you want, and every time you establish a new colony you can have it be a separate colonial nation or integrate it into an existing one. I don't recall them talking about it directly, but I'd assume and hope that you can unite, and maybe even divide them at will, as well.
 
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The Oromos followed a Monotheistic religion, not an Animist religion, and it was called Waaqeffanna. The god they follow is called Waaqa, whom they believe is loving, intelligent, and black.

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Currently, only 3% of Oromos follow this religion but before their Great Expansions, all Oromos followed this religion since ancient times.

The reason why only 3% of Oromos follow this religion is because during and after their Great Expansions into Northern Ethiopia, Kenya, and some parts of Somalia, they assimulated the religions that surrounded them. Currently, the Oromos that live near the Amharas are generally Orthodox Christians whilst the Oromos that live near Somalia are generally Muslim. In this map, you can see where the Oromos inhabit (all inside the white lines) and you can see how divided they are in religion.

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I would hope that there could be some events or some missions for the Oromos that depict their historical expansions and conquests northwards into Ethiopia, as it massively changed how we see Ethiopia today.

Here is a somewhat historically accurate map of how Ethiopia looked like during the 15th century.

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Now here is what it looks like today.

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What you can take out this map is that before the Oromo expansions, the Ethiopian region was very diverse but after the expansions took place, the Oromo successfully assimulated most of these ethnic groups into their dominant culture, although following the religion of the people they conquered.

Another important thing to note is when you are looking at the history of the Oromo, they were commonly called "Galla", which we do not know its origin but regardless, the term is considered offensive by Oromos today. Anyways, there's some interesting theories about the origin of the term like it was given to them by Prophet Muhammad and that the Oromos were lost "white" European guys from modern day France.

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The Oromo, once a regular nomadic, semi-pastoralist African ethnic group, would become the most dominant people in the Horn of Africa and a threat to the Christian Kingdom of Ethiopia to their north and the Muslim sultanates to their right.

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Source: The Cambridge History of Africa by Roland Oliver & John Fage


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Source: The Uncivilized Races of Men in All Countries of the World By John George Wood

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Source: Ethiopia By Paulos Milkias


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Source: The Standard History of the World by John Herbert Clifford


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Source: History of the World from the Earliest Period to the Present Time by Evert Augustus Duyckinck

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Source: Some Developments in Ethiopia During the Era of Mesafint by K Darkwah
Here we go! This is exactly what the devs need :D
I really like this forum. No matter the region, very passionate people always come out of the woodwork just to make sure that the game is as as good as it possibly can be, like that guy in the Balkan thread who was very knowledgeable about medieval Szekely (Hungarians in modern-day Romania) horse breeding. All expertise counts!
 
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Ajuuran should be ruled by the House of Gareen, Ethiopia should be called Abyssinia at this time ( I know some internal use of the term Ethiopia existed, but it feels anachronistic to me to use the term, like calling Muscovy Russia) and there should be more vassals, both along the Banadir coast and in Abysinnia.
 
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I'm not entirely sure why are you so wary of anachronistic toponyms, considering that what we've seen so far of the Pontic Steppe region is chock-full of them.
It's also really hard to be certain of when certain African settlements were founded, so it might be safe to assume they are very ancient. For instance: the city of Jumba, the capital of South Sudan isn't represented on the map, supposedly because the modern city was founded in 1922, but before that there was a village also named Jumba that has existed since time immemorial.
There's also a lot of places around the world that became prominent later down the game's timeline but didn't exist in 1337. Should prominent location X that was historically established only halfway through the game's timeline not be represented at all then?
 
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