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What about "Communia"? Plurals of commune in Latin, this is very abstract so there is no anachronism and it can bend very diverse political realities together due to its vagueness.
Communes are already a political entity (from Europe and at the end of its lifespan in the EU 5 timeline), it's too similar
 
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What about "Communia"? Plurals of commune in Latin, this is very abstract so there is no anachronism and it can bend very diverse political realities together due to its vagueness.
I like it too.

I maintain what I've said above: while IO is far from ideal, it's still better than any of the proposed alternatives.
For the Tatar Yoke ‘organisation’ is equally bad, for the HRE ‘bloc’ is much better term imo.
 
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i mean, do we need to use the term in game and in ui often? Why not just have it in code. It is like with a buddy you meet at a party after some time and not remember how he is called at all. No reason to ever say a name, is there? Even works on dates! ^^
 
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Probably I will make a new thread to have all the possible better suggestions updated in the first post.
Don't do that. Let's keep the one topic in the one thread.

Also, just quietly, posting the same thing over and over and over and over and over is technically spamming and against the rules.
 
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Has the word 'group' been taken? As in Multi Country Group? MCG?
 
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Has the word 'group' been taken? As in Multi Country Group? MCG?
Well, I proposed it too earlier :D
Really sorry for repeating some things, I get that users will not read all the previous pages, so I just posted similar answers to similar questions.
 
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Well if people have a problem with the term international could we substitute diplomatic instead maybe?

Diplo bloc
Diplo group
Diplomatic Association

Just a suggestion not "I believe it must be this"
 
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What about the adjective interrealm instead of international? It looks like more flavourful for the time period then the latter.
  • Interrealm Systems, Interrealm Structures – as a general descriptive category
  • Diplomatic Bloc, Political Structure, Trade League, Tributary System, Religious Entity, Religious League – as possible subcategories
Why not just have it in code.
That's OK, I'm only concerned about flavourful UI :)
 
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What about "Communia"? Plurals of commune in Latin, this is very abstract so there is no anachronism and it can bend very diverse political realities together due to its vagueness.
Community might work? Then you could differentiate things like the Shogunate and HRE as Hierarchical Communities and things like the Yoke or Chinese Tribute system as Tributary communities, the Guelphs and Ghibellines could be political communities and the Hansa could be an economic community?

Still feels like too genial of a term

The more I think about this, why not just leave it as is? The name is does its job.
It sounds very wordy and modern. Imo something like Blocs would be a positive change because even if it sounds equally modern it's less wordy
 
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The more I think about this, why not just leave it as is? The name is does its job.
Because the devs in the last DD literally said they do not like the name (as well as quite a lot of other users too) and are open to ideas. Even though they did not came across anything better. Otherwise I would not open this topic again.

So I had new ideas, that were not mentioned before in the thread, and tried to make another series of brainstorming.
 
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Because the devs in the last DD literally said they do not like the name (as well as quite a lot of other users too). Even though they did not came across anything better. Otherwise I would not open this topic again.

So I had new ideas, that were not mentioned before in the thread, and tried to make another series of brainstorming.
Sure, but they (and we) have also spent months if not years trying to come up with a better name and have failed.
 
Community might work? Then you could differentiate things like the Shogunate and HRE as Hierarchical Communities and things like the Yoke or Chinese Tribute system as Tributary communities, the Guelphs and Ghibellines could be political communities and the Hansa could be an economic community?
Yes, "community" sounds too genial, especially with an adjective. The Latin sounds great, though.
 
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Because the devs in the last DD literally said they do not like the name (as well as quite a lot of other users too). Even though they did not came across anything better. Otherwise I would not open this topic again.

So I had new ideas, that were not mentioned before in the thread, and tried to make another series of brainstorming.
The original alternatives by the OP sounded good, though. I think a name should clearly and concisely describe its concept, which IO, and the other ones from the OP do.
 
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Yes, I had that idea too, but native speakers said that bloc has a modern vibe (like Soviet bloc, NATO etc.):


Also covenant or league came to my mind. At least for certain IOs.
'Bloc' in my mind just means 'group of countries', which seems perfect for this tbh. (t. native speaker).

It may sound modern but that just means that modern players of the game will understand what's meant by it. No-one's going to look at the Catholic bloc and say "hmm, I understand the concept of the Papacy but now that it says 'bloc' underneath it I suddenly don't know what it is."
 
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No-one's going to look at the Catholic bloc and say "hmm, I understand the concept of the Papacy but now that it says 'bloc' underneath it I suddenly don't know what it is."
But one might start wondering why it doesn't function at all like the Shogunate Bloc, or the Celestial Empire Bloc, or the Tatar Yo-- actually, on reflection, that one is also a wealth extraction system so might be vaguely similar, but you get what I mean. The name - any name - will by virtue of being a common label make you look for common mechanics in the various IOs. Unless this is true, the effect in-game would be a common label that exists for the sole purpose of nesting a tooltip telling you that they may have nothing in common.
 
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Well if people have a problem with the term international could we substitute diplomatic instead maybe?

Diplo bloc
Diplo group
Diplomatic Association

Just a suggestion not "I believe it must be this"
I like this, honestly my biggest issue is with the word "international", it just seems too anachronitstic.
So even "Diplomatic Organization" would be better.

At this point PDX should just do a poll with curated names (by themselves or even from this thread), and we agree to never talk about this ever again. Ever.
Otherwise I feel we'll have an eternal thread like this all the way to release and beyond.
 
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