Just finished Part 1 - three months behind. But the story is very well crafted and enjoyable. Very poetic in that there is artistry in the composition.
Looking forward to the rest!
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Mieletty, no!
I don't expect him to live through this, but maybe I'm wrong. The real question is how this affects Zygmunt and Satajakla. There's a couple ways I see this could go:
I will note you used past tense in your answer concerning the prince coming to power to prevent the war. That doesn't bode well for his survival after this chapter.That would have been for the best, no doubt.
Ooof, that’s definitely a harsh war we’ve walked into.
Mieletty better hold on or I can envision Zygmunt making a break for independence if his friend’s protection goes missing
Mieletty, no!
I don't expect him to live through this, but maybe I'm wrong. The real question is how this affects Zygmunt and Satajakla. There's a couple ways I see this could go:
One, the King sees the destructive, stupidity of this war for what it is after the death of his son. He tries to make peace and give Risto the talking to he deserves. But I feel that's optimistic.
Or, Satajalka now hates Christians all the more. He continues to be stubborn and persecute his subjects. Maybe even, somehow, he blames Zygmunt. Maybe he believes that Zygmunt's Christian nature corrupted his son and cursed the campaign.
I fear how this affects Zygmunt, Pihla, and their family.
As much as I wish for this to open Satajalka's eyes, hate and paranoia are one hell of a duo of drugs. Mieletty, the man most likely to bring peace to Suomi is on death's door.
I fear that this story's end will be one in deep contrast to Ermenganda's more positive one, it seems to be shaping into quite a tragedy. I would love to be wrong though.
A couple of fine chapters. When will Satajalka realize he is in a no-win situation, and the cost is too high, or has Risto managed to poison his mind beyond common sense? Risto and Satajalka's relationship kind of reminds me of King Theoden and Grima Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings.
This can't end well for anyone...
Just finished Part 1 - three months behind. But the story is very well crafted and enjoyable. Very poetic in that there is artistry in the composition.
Looking forward to the rest!
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Thanks for the latest chapter. Quite the cliffhanger as we wonder what Zygmunt will ultimately do. Seems he must make some decisions and given the passions of the moment they may not be wise. Time for him to truly choose a side.
This chapter resonates with me because I have written a chapter or two, some in the forum and some elsewhere, that used wolf's bane as a device. An interesting poison, and definitely one used at the time.
Also, I have a chapter set to come to the forum in the next few weeks also set in Västerås (or near it) although it is set 350 years before your alternate timeline.
So I truly appreciate the research you put into this.
I will note you used past tense in your answer concerning the prince coming to power to prevent the war. That doesn't bode well for his survival after this chapter.
As others have noted, this has the elements of a tragedy. I have felt that way from almost the start. Masterfully done, but tragic nonetheless.
Finally, I wonder how related to game play this chapter might be? Did you have a war with this dynamic as you played Finland? If so, I wonder if in the future we will learn how the war turned out in the game, with the Grand Holy Order of WTF?
The classic logic. Satajalka declared this war, Suomi is the attacker. But no, in his mind, it is of course the Christians' fault.And yet Satajalka had not chosen this war, had in fact ignored outrage after outrage from the Christians until at last his hand was forced by acts of treachery.
Of course.He mourned the loss of Mieletty, of course.
They're both equally plausible, but the first thought in the King's head was of conspiracy and murder, not that his son's best friend is in mourning. This chapter truly shows how far Satajalka has fallen morally and mentally, not just physically, from the assassination attempt.He’s come to kill me at last, the king thought, or He’s come, to return the family sword and to grieve. Both seemed equally plausible.
I hope this gets through to him. But his own daughter couldn't even do that. The King has been fed poison and I see no antidote.And you… you don’t think about anybody. The only thing that’s real for you is you: your own fears and weaknesses and secret shames. You’re like that man in the tales, obsessed with his own reflection in the lake.”
A great line.your father only cares enough to hang his enemies and not to defend their lands.
The interesting thing is that Zygmunt and the king’s son appear to be friends. Friendship often sidesteps religion. I don’t think Zygmunt wants to faithfully serve the king, but can he serve his friend?
I will have to add that film to my watch queue. I just posted my Västerås chapter, although it happens near Västerås and before Västerås was a real city.So over the holiday break, my wife was showing me one of her favorite movies: We Are the Best!, which is a Swedish movie about teenage girls starting a punk band in 1980s Stockholm. It was a delightful movie and the big climactic scene took place at a battle of the bands in Västerås. And a little research taught me that Västerås was an old medieval city, so I thought to myself, I'm going to have to use that.
I very much like how you converted what was happening in the game into what you have happening in Book II of your tales. Looking forward to how you wrap this part up. I sense the ending of this book coming soon.I had a claim from a legend; Sweden was ruled by a child; and they had a lot fewer troops than I did, so I thought like Satajalka did that it would be a pretty easy win. Go over, take the capital, snatch the child monarch, manage the vassals. Instead it turned out to be a ten year long war because somebody in the HRE had started the Knights Templar, so they have five thousand more troops than I thought.
(Also, Mieletty did die in the game during this war, killed by a Duke Sigurd; that was always part of the story that I was going to tell here.)
I did win the war in the game, but it was a classic pyrrhic victory: because my faith was pluralist, all the Christian dukes in Sweden kept their titles and they all hated me; so then I had to fight out an independence war where I was heavily outnumbered, and I ended up losing the northern half the kingdom. Then Satajalka dies; and the kingdom is split between Otso II and his uncle Arvo, with Arvo getting all the Swedish territories along with Lithuania. I was playing Otso, so I don't know what happened with Arvo; but it seemed like he accepted a dissolution faction and thus all of those lands split apart.
So basically I fought two bloody wars for nothing; and Otso didn't inherit his grandfather's claim on Sweden either. It was an incredibly frustrating session of play but also the kind of setback that helped convince me that there really was a narrative here. When a game goes too easily, then there's no drama to it imo.
I'm sure Satajalka's grief is real, but normal people don't have to say or think things like, "Of course I feel sad. Of course I do. My sadness is so genuine that I have to justify it to myself."
I'm glad Zygmunt saved the Greek Vulgate volume, for a variety of reasons. A complicated character there!
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This comment, and the friendship between Mieletty and Zygmunt, remind me of one of my memories from high school which has stuck with me as instructional.
We had two Iranian students at the school - Farzad and Farzhad, who were best friends. I was friends with Farzhad, enough that we would say hi in the hallways at least. I saw him at his locker once and stopped to say hi. I noticed he had a portrait of the Shah Pahlavi in his locker and commented on it. He was very surprised I even knew who it was. He begged me, "Please don't tell Farzad - he's a supporter of the Ayatollahs."
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“I will want to have coitus, you know.”
Can't beat that as a straight line.
I'm looking forward to seeing more of Pihla!
Brava! Nicely done. Another very good chapter with some surprises. I certainly didn't see Zygmunt arranging a palace coup. Although I certainly did think that Mieletty was dead, even though there was some ambiguity until this chapter. So far Zygmunt continues to stay true to character while threading a very difficult needle of behavior. Well done.
I will have to add that film to my watch queue. I just posted my Västerås chapter, although it happens near Västerås and before Västerås was a real city.
I very much like how you converted what was happening in the game into what you have happening in Book II of your tales. Looking forward to how you wrap this part up. I sense the ending of this book coming soon.
Tadeusz is very crafty. He's forced the Catholics to help and make peace, even if they don't want to, because somehow the idea of an Orthodox nation is worse. It is really odd if you think about it, a heretic is worse than a heathen.Tadeusz nodded gratefully. “Indeed. He hoped that your excellency might assist in naming a suffragan bishop for Ulvila, who might speak on behalf of the Christians in the realm.”
Lothar considered this notion for a second. “Would I not in essence be recognizing this pagan kingdom? I don’t care for the thought of that. The works of Satan are not to be tolerated as if they were simple eccentricities.”
“I understand if your excellency is not comfortable,” Tadeusz said. “The bishop of Novgorod is currently in exile in Pinsk. Perhaps he would be more suitable.”
While the priest’s face had a look of abject humility, there was a sly note in his voice that Lothar did not care for. The bishop of Novgorod, as Tadeusz knew perfectly well, was given to certain heretical Greek notions.
Yes! Justice!“Once this man was Count of Sudovian, councillor to the king of Suomi, the arch-persecutor of the Church in Suomi. Now he is just Risto.”
And trying to make up for the loss of Mieletty too, I think. But nothing can ever replace that friendship, no matter how much Zygmunt tries.It was a companionable, Zygmunt-y way of keeping a close eye on the prince.
And here we see more of Satajalka's true character. He was a determined and zealous king, and now such traits have been twisted against his own family.Some days he would lie there, mutely staring at the wall. Some days he would accuse her of treachery and unnatural acts. Some days he would be consoling and compassionate, and these days were the worst. It meant that he wanted something from her, and he intended to use every trick he knew to get it from her.
“Your Elzbieta is getting to be quite mannish, tytärkku. She spends too much time with boys, if you ask me. Now when I was your age, I…”
How dare you speak to your granddaughter that way.Mother flushed with outrage. “How dare you speak to your mother that way?!”
Doesn't Pihla's mother know (did we ever learn her name, btw?) you never badmouth someone else's kid.“Keep your mouth shut about my Elzbieta.”
I believe in miracles. Satajalka may be far gone, but all it takes is one breakthrough, one visit, one glimmer of joy.Zygmunt put up his hands in mock surrender. “Fair enough. Let me say this: it takes a miracle.”
Thank you very much for the second book!End of Part Two
Peace has been brought to Suomi, hopefully it is everlasting.
I believe in miracles. Satajalka may be far gone, but all it takes is one breakthrough, one visit, one glimmer of joy.
He may never sit on the throne of Suomi again, but that doesn't mean his life has to wither away as he dwells on his own bitterness.
I enjoyed Part One very much, but I think this one is even better! The characters were all excellent and complex. I liked how the antagonist this time was from within Suomi's own walls. Satajalka was a compelling villain, especially as we were able to see the small changes that led ultimately to his fall.
Risto, equally, was hateable. We didn't see much of him, but that's what makes him so effective. We see the executions and the decay of the King's mental state, letting us draw a connection between Risto's increasing influence and the decaying situation.
Mieletty was a true friend. It's a real shame he never got to rule. I'm sure Zygmunt, Pihla, and everyone will carry him in their hearts forever.
Zygmunt's divided loyalties between faith and country are all too relatable in many ways. I recently saw the film Bohoeffer, and couldn't help but connect both their struggles. Just like any hero, he makes the hard choice. He does what is right not because it is easy, but because he knows he must.
And Pihla was the standout addition to the cast in my opinion. Like her husband, we see her struggles (not with faith, but with family). The broken relationship between her father and his former favorite child was heartbreaking. But she doesn't let the define her or get her down. She's her own person and, like any good spouse, is there to offer support to Zygmunt when he needs it most.
But she also gets interesting stuff to do outside her marriage (I hope she discovered the secrets of the geese). She's the focus of this last chapter, not her husband. Just like Ermengarda previously, we see the often overlooked role during this time of women. She's there to comfort her husband, love her granddaughter and nephew, show undeserved but merciful kindness to her father, and call out her mother.
One of the truly great AARs of this past year and I hope it continues whenever your time allows.![]()
Loved that last scene for Pihla, I really enjoy her character.
That was also a very surprising coup but I suppose the king was really spiraling by that point.
I’m excited to see what the new age will bring!
Excellent ending to Book 2. Well done. This ended on a much more positive note than I expected. I thought Zigmunt and Pihla were headed to their doom. Good that justice prevailed. I also like how you established some of the character flaws for this in Book 1.
As @jak7139 noted, this is a very impressive AAR.
Hopefully that'll make the realm more stable, but it mightn't, what if people don't want to buy into the unified culture?...Culturally, things were in flux as well: during the mid-twelfth century, court annals refer to the Itämeri people for the first time. The name reflects a people who were neither Suomi nor Baltic alone, but both together. Certainly, Otso had reasons to overstate this phenomenon, in order to calm the tensions of his own diverse realm. Still, it appears that a hybrid culture was beginning to come into being in the crownlands during the twelfth century.