Tinto Maps #18 Persia & Caucasus Feedback

[GenericUsername1444]

I will once again repost the table of suggestions which I've made for the previous thread, for the convenience of the developers.

• Georgia Map feedback // Samktskhe map feedback // Shaki map feedback
• Culture and languages feedback
• Georgia and the Latins - Catholicism and Genoese colonies feedback
• Georgian societal values feedback
• Map colour and flag feedback (self-evident stuff)
• Cultural and religious demographics feedback (updated in "finishing touches")
• Some other relevant historical maps
• Laz culture feedback
• Economy of Georgia feedback part 1 // part 2
• Diplomacy of Georgia feedback
• General finishing touches feedback

 

[Pavía]

Is the population map still broken ?

Nope, it's fixed, this is my comment from the latest map feedback post:

Although we have fixed our pop editor, we want to make a general pass on all pops before any more feedback review is shared, since we have some issues regarding those errors here and there.

 

[Pavía]

I have a general question about the maps feedback. So whenever you post feedback posts of certain regions there's still input and suggestions for changes coming in. Do you consider those and continue to make changes or is the feedback post basically just on information on how it's gonna be?

Yes, we usually consider it and make further fixes (but we don't make another post to avoid getting into an infinite loop).

 

[za3tarani]

dont understand the point of all these million tags, but i can now roleplay my own tribe/clan

will all tags have some kind of info and unique stuff?

edit: nevermind i missread :/

 

[nyetflix2]

Perhaps Jalayirid Horde would sound better than Horde of Jalayirids?

 

[CrabHelmet]

Comments on the actual layout shortly, but loving the new market map-mode, that's 10/10 - clear and easy to read.

 

[Pavía]

Thanks so much for taking the time to go so thoroughly to my previous topography suggestions, it looks like a LOT of them made it onto this version!
Glad to see my effort wasn't in vain

Thanks for your feedback during this past year! Your terrain-related posts are among the first we check in each Tinto Maps.

 

[SuperLexxe]

Perhaps Jalayirid Horde would sound better than Horde of Jalayirids?

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Honestly I still wish for PDX to use the term Ulus, instead of Horde.

The ruler of the Jalayirids would be titled Ulus Bey, not Khan (non-Borjigids can't be Khans).

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[Polesie Admiral]

Thanks for your feedback during this past year! Your terrain-related posts are among the first we check in each Tinto Maps.

Can you change the terrain colours to the previous ones pleaseeee , I can't see anything:'(

 

[Pavía]

I like it! Despite the utter wasteland-riddled-mess this region is, it's really clear to read imo.
The outlines really helps distinguishing it from each other and from the wastelands, while the paper map provides a nice neutral tone to distinguish high and low access parts.
10/10 imo.

Finally the markets mapmode looks fantastic and easy to read without causing epilepsy! Thanks

Forwarding your kind comments to our UI Team, thanks!

 

[Ahmadmltft]

Yes, it is just ridiculous and I hope it is fixed before release. Many people have been confused by the 'Khorasani' culture, and now it seems the devs themselves are confused by it too

Dude,just look at this map of modern Persian speaking areas.Almost the whole area is Persian speaking expect for the northern parts where the historical Oghuz Turkmen community actually existed(plus some Kurds from Safavid tribal relocations that happened in the 16th century).I'm seriously starting to believe the devs are just confused by the "Khorasani" ethnonym.

You may say this map wouldn't be true for 1337,i say that the area has been continuously ruled by Oghuz dynasties and that only stopped after the Pahlavi dynasty.While there were Persian assimilation efforts by that dynasty there was no genocide,mass killings or relocations of ethnic groups,so it wouldn't make sense for this strong majority of Oghuz speakers to almost completely disappear after 50 years.

 

[GenericUsername1444]

I have updated my suggestions, if possible, could you please review it @Pavía?

Thank you.

 

[Tercio Soldier]

i'm wondering how difficult will be it to conquer Persia as the Baduspanids. They should start with a pretty great ruler in Jalal al-Dawla Iskandar, but they are sandwitched between Gurgan and Jalayrids. Maybe playing them against each other works?

 

[Gurtannon]

Why is Circassia not split?, there were pretty cool suggestions in the tinto maps thread already

 

[Streamlet]

Fal (the small country by the Gulf) should be ruled by the "Fālī" dynasty, since it was a Lordship ruled by that family. It's also probably more suitable as a normal monarchy than a tribe.

Shilau = Siraf

It would also make sense to rename the location of Asir to "Fāl", since that was the city which the country name is based on, and would have been the capital.

 

[Witcher587]

Since you split up pagan religions and added one thwre in northern caucasus,
Could you add slavic pagan religion? Pwease

 

[Pavía]

What culture are the Jewish pops?

Mizrahi in Baghdad and Kalīmī in Tabriz.

 

[Pavía]

Republic?!View attachment 1274361

Republic of Sarbadars, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarba...s had a form,is not universally held, however.

 

[Atromb]

The colours of the Injuids and Jalayirids are too similar, same with the colours of the Jarwanids and Gurgan. Would look a lot better if there were some colour changes in the area.

Other colour related feedback:
-Really don't like how neon the new trade map looks.
-Still don't like the 'new' colour for plateaus. Quite confusing and hard to tell apart.

 

[Atromb]

Also, make sure to remember to make those new arab mameluk vassals tribal, since they are currently monarchies.