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So why is Austria white then?


Making Portugal blue is confusing because they often end up in the same area as France.
 
So why is Austria white then?
this flag is really nice,

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Imperial Flag


Flag of Hapsburg Monarchy


They didn't have a national flag back then, they did have a imperial one. Black & Yellow for the Imperials is simply glorious :D.

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I'm starting to agree with you. White on a Colonizer would be nice.
A White Colonial Canada sounds nice. Could be French Speaking. If NA the trade routes also went to Portugal perhaps this could finally be a thing.

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I guess Spain would of taken one for the team again :D .

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Edit: Explored to Florida, His brother eventually took over though (the name on the map) of the Corte Real Family. I wonder if they got killed..
 
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Make Portugal white. I’d hate it but get used to it. It’s nowhere near Austria and likely never will be. Please make Scotland look less like Castile.
 
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Make Portugal white. I’d hate it but get used to it. It’s nowhere near Austria and likely never will be. Please make Scotland look less like Castile.

Who were the White Coats Historically? :D

Assassin Creed White Monarch France.
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Total War Grand Strategy has White Portugal.

Portugal has been the Blue Coats with Red since its inception. And since EU is set during Portugal's Golden period atleast give them this game.

Thread 'Portugal military Uniform images for Victoria 3' https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...litary-uniform-images-for-victoria-3.1509474/

If there was one Period where a game could give a nod to Portugal & Spain. You guys can have all the Blue France in every other game, it's thanks to Paradox that have been kind enough to hear people out.

I mean, let's not even mention the fact that the Use of the ducat waned from the 17th century (1600s) with the minting of freshly-mined Latin American Gold to Iberian standards like Spanish Escudo & Portugal Real.

There's so much i dont even knit pick. But having Blue Portugal is essentially a meme at this point :D.
 
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I'm starting to agree with you. White on a Colonizer would be nice.

Well can't argue with that.
If Portugal were to be White, it should be Granadas white, it looks very nice & Granada would pickup another colour.

As alternative to its historical Blue & Red, White & Gold would be the other 2 colours in the Coat of Arms. White with Gold for sure would be my theme of preference for "Away" Portugal.

Green in the Republics Flag symbolises the Carbonaria Secret Society that attempted the revolution, green was their symbol. Although Green has been seen in one Dynasty symbol, it was never representative of the whole nation the way the Portugal Coat does, just a additional colour.
 
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I had this in my mind for a couple of days since the last messages here talked about how white would be a better colour for Portugal than blue (but hadn't had time to respond). In mods like M&T they use a mix of blue and white for Portugal. Making it very distinguishable.
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I do notice how M&T changes France blue and others countries colours plus it has their own graphics. So to showcase it, I quickly made a mod to change it for vanilla. One with Castile and other with Spain (since the yellow is different).

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It's very unique for sure. In a sense it's similiar to puke how green Ottomans works. It's how they manage to stand out when they end bordering so many green countries (Persia, Russia, Mughals, and if you go far enough Portugal and Kilwa too xD).
I don't have a strong opinion on it. Personally I do prefer the blue like in Vicky3 buut this also works as compromise. One could argue blue works better for victoria era than eu4 time period too. So a whitish blue gives the best of both worlds. Dont think someone can't tell Portugal apart from France using this colour, plus you can still tell it apart from other white countries like granada and Austria.
I guess the only problem is that it might look ugly for some? :p
 
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If we change Portugal we would be forced to change Prussia as well.
Wait a minute, but in the dev diary... I saw it!
You did change Prussia to Prussian blue!
And I can tell Portugal is still green in the corner! What is this? I will get my pitchforks, I want justice!

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I am a fan of blue Portugal. I don't really want to open the can of worms of fiddling around with major power colours in a 10 year old game, but if I did then I would probably just swap Portugal and Tlemcen.
 
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I am a fan of blue Portugal. I don't really want to open the can of worms of fiddling around with major power colours in a 10 year old game, but if I did then I would probably just swap Portugal and Tlemcen.
I think Tlemcen's colour is fine as it is.

I would really like to make Portugal to get Dahomey's map colour though (it makes almost identical to Victoria 3), but if Portugal to colonize the West Africa, it may mix with Dahomey (although, in most cases it's guaranteed to be annexed by Benin (green) or it's neighbours.

So on the second thought, If Portugal will change to Dahomey's colour, Tlemcen is better off having the current Portugal's shade of green.

And yes, it may create a precedent for a complete country map colour overhaul, but I think that the following countires' map colour definitely should be chanched:

- Greece and Rum shoudl swap should get Sardinia-Piedmont's colour instead of purple, similar to the map colour of Naples;
- Rum should get Greece's purple instead of it's current light-blue, similar to Sardinia-Piedmont;
- Sardinia-Piedmont should be grey-ish like current Two-Sicilies colour (and it's flag should be changed places with Sicily proper) - like in Victoria 3;
- Two-Sicilies are better off as green, but maybe a lighter tint to be easily distinguished when you form Italy;
- Persia and Bukhara should swap their colours to be more easily distinguished from its neibours - Ottomans and Russia:
- (Maybe) Ottomans should be changed to red, but it would require for the change of Albania's colour too (maybe a more darker tint?), although it's quite fine - even when it borders Russia and gets it's provences occupied by it;
- Romania should be light-orange - closer to HOI series, and more distinguishable from independent Nitra;
- Byzantium's colour should be more purple, like the one used in CK series;
- United Germany is better with grey colour, just like in Victoria series, and it's current darker shade of green being suitable for someone else.
 
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I am a fan of blue Portugal. I don't really want to open the can of worms of fiddling around with major power colours in a 10 year old game, but if I did then I would probably just swap Portugal and Tlemcen.

One of us, one of us!

Temclen does not usually survive long on my games being eaten by Tunis and Morocco, so I would have no qualms about stealing their colour. :)
 
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One of us, one of us!

Temclen does not usually survive long on my games being eaten by Tunis and Morocco, so I would have no qualms about stealing their colour. :)
But isn't it a bit too dark for Portugal?

Also looks kinda similar to the new Prussian Blue for Prussia or Munich-Bavaria to me.