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Vargas should not be Fascist. He was, in fact, a little far away from the fascists despite their close relationship. He was a unique figure in politics, he flirted with both the Brazilian industrial/rural oligarchy AND the lower classes of society. I really don't know what that means in terms of HoI's politics. The real Brazilian fascist is Plínio Salgado, and he's already in the game.
I mostly agree with you, but i think that the reelected Vargas in the 50s should be SD not SC. Him his second term he abandoned the oligarchies and focused his policies on the lower classes.
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I understand where you are coming from, re Vargas. He doesn't really fit as a LWR either, however. I'd have him as a paternal autocrat initially. His 1951 persona could be a social democrat.
Nom,
One thing I've noticed is that the USA needs tech teams to replace Nimitz and King. Here are some suggestions for US naval doctrine teams to replace Nimitz and King when they retire.
Arleigh Burke
skill 7
Carrier Tactics, Management, Naval Training, Large Taskforce Tactics, small Taskforce Tactics
years: 1949-1962
Robert Bostwick Carney
skill 6
management, Naval training, seamanship, large unit tactics, Carrier Tactics
years: 1950 to 1955
William Fechteler
skill 6
Carrier tactics, naval training, seamanship, Large Taskforce Tactics,
years: 1947- 1955
Naval War College
Skill 6
Submarine Tactics, naval training, centralized execution, seamanship, Carrier Tactics
years: 1930 to 1970
Alternatively, this team could have its start date set for 1970 and be woken up when King and Nimitz retire.
I noticed a few bugs. Alite anti tank is opened for research by modern anti tank when it should be opened for research by semi elite anti tank.
I can't research nuclear cruiser propolsion, modern light cruiser, or modern heavy cruiser for some inexplicable reason.
I just fought ww3 to the last drop of European and Japanese blood in this mod.
I dowed the Reds as soon as I had nuclear icbms. Day one of the war, which started in late 1951, I nuked Moscow, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Baku, Omsk, and Orsk. The reds retaliated with nuclear attacks on my allies, but their bombers didn't have the range to hit me or the UK. I followed up with nuke attacks on Romania's oil fields, and that really seemed to take the steam out of the warsaw pact armies.
I can't research nuclear cruiser propolsion, modern light cruiser, or modern heavy cruiser for some inexplicable reason.
I just fought ww3 to the last drop of European and Japanese blood in this mod.
I dowed the Reds as soon as I had nuclear icbms. Day one of the war, which started in late 1951, I nuked Moscow, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Baku, Omsk, and Orsk. The reds retaliated with nuclear attacks on my allies, but their bombers didn't have the range to hit me or the UK. I followed up with nuke attacks on Romania's oil fields, and that really seemed to take the steam out of the warsaw pact armies.
DS,
Elite Anti-Tank is a true bug (but not disabling so I'll fix it for 0.15) and you are right.
Modern Light Cruiser and Modern Heavy Cruiser both require the preceding model plus the secret weapons technology Surface to Air Missile.
Nuclear Cruiser Propulsion requires Modern Heavy Cruiser. This is a change from vanilla which required semimodern
Adding this information to readme_faq.txt.
Re: USA teams
Adding all of them might be overkill. Here's what I'll do:
143;Naval War College;T143;6;1947;1970;submarine_tactics;naval_training;centralized_execution;seamanship;carrier_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
144;Arleigh Burke;T144;7;1949;1962;carrier_tactics;management;naval_training;large_taskforce_tactics;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Re: pictures
For the technologies that need pictures you'll see a "need pictures" notice, unless you by chance happen to have a picture matching that technology number from another mod. Offhand I'd say the land doctrines need pictures. If you have Photoshop or a program that can use Photoshop files there's a template in the interface/tech folder. If you do not have Photoshop, a link to the pics can at least save me the search time. The ships also need pictures but that will depend on model names.
Re: Vargas,
I'm a little reluctant to change Vargas in light of your inability to agree on what he should be changed to. If I may offer my own input--many fascists actually had very deep sympathies with the poor, and if you look at Mussolini's biography you'll find out he was originally a socialist. Many, many people over time drifted from left to right, sometimes simply as a result of personality conflicts within the left. I read Vargas as someone who made this shift also. I think, though, one of the defining differences between left and right dictators is the attitude towards organized religion. Fascists (except for Hitler) generally tried to cultivate a relationship with the Church, especially the Catholic Church, whereas the left-wing types tended to be anti-clerical. One option is to put him in as SD and SC. If the government is only mildly dictatorial then he can be accepted as a minister. In view of his anti-communism I think he should not be LWR.
EDIT: I read him as an opportunist, perhaps leftist from 1930-1932, PA from about 1932 to 1945 and SD in 1951. (180 degrees reverse of Paradox's interpretation!) This implies that Dutra's and Fonturas' designations as LWR are also wrong. That means the Stalinist ministers may need start date revisions. I'd say if Vargas moves too far towards democracy the military deposes him and sleeps his PA personality, leaving only the SD persona.
Ringwraith_JP: Do you agree with this assessment of him as PA or do you have another opinion? I've gone through the scenarios and found out that Paradox puts Brazil in as LWR except in 38 where Brazil is PA. Which do you think is correct?
LATE EDIT: I'm inclined to do this for BOTH Vargas and Juan Peron of Argentina--change them to Social Democrats and put in a second PA persona. Paradox has done something similar with Sheng Shicai (Sinkiang) so this is not without precedent. That way their numbers stay the same for compatibility reasons with other mods. But the practical effect of having Vargas as LWR is that the Soviet Union can sometimes ally Brazil with +200 relations. In real life I don't think Stalin would have had a snowball's chance in Hades of convincing Vargas to join the Comintern. On the other hand, had Hitler won the war, there is a very real chance he'd agree to join the German alliance. Comments please--agree or disagree?
Elite Anti-Tank is a true bug (but not disabling so I'll fix it for 0.15) and you are right.
Modern Light Cruiser and Modern Heavy Cruiser both require the preceding model plus the secret weapons technology Surface to Air Missile.
Nuclear Cruiser Propulsion requires Modern Heavy Cruiser. This is a change from vanilla which required semimodern
Adding this information to readme_faq.txt.
Re: USA teams
Adding all of them might be overkill. Here's what I'll do:
143;Naval War College;T143;6;1947;1970;submarine_tactics;naval_training;centralized_execution;seamanship;carrier_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
144;Arleigh Burke;T144;7;1949;1962;carrier_tactics;management;naval_training;large_taskforce_tactics;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Re: pictures
For the technologies that need pictures you'll see a "need pictures" notice, unless you by chance happen to have a picture matching that technology number from another mod. Offhand I'd say the land doctrines need pictures. If you have Photoshop or a program that can use Photoshop files there's a template in the interface/tech folder. If you do not have Photoshop, a link to the pics can at least save me the search time. The ships also need pictures but that will depend on model names.
Re: Vargas,
I'm a little reluctant to change Vargas in light of your inability to agree on what he should be changed to. If I may offer my own input--many fascists actually had very deep sympathies with the poor, and if you look at Mussolini's biography you'll find out he was originally a socialist. Many, many people over time drifted from left to right, sometimes simply as a result of personality conflicts within the left. I read Vargas as someone who made this shift also. I think, though, one of the defining differences between left and right dictators is the attitude towards organized religion. Fascists (except for Hitler) generally tried to cultivate a relationship with the Church, especially the Catholic Church, whereas the left-wing types tended to be anti-clerical. One option is to put him in as SD and SC. If the government is only mildly dictatorial then he can be accepted as a minister. In view of his anti-communism I think he should not be LWR.
EDIT: I read him as an opportunist, perhaps leftist from 1930-1932, PA from about 1932 to 1945 and SD in 1951. (180 degrees reverse of Paradox's interpretation!) This implies that Dutra's and Fonturas' designations as LWR are also wrong. That means the Stalinist ministers may need start date revisions. I'd say if Vargas moves too far towards democracy the military deposes him and sleeps his PA personality, leaving only the SD persona.
Ringwraith_JP: Do you agree with this assessment of him as PA or do you have another opinion? I've gone through the scenarios and found out that Paradox puts Brazil in as LWR except in 38 where Brazil is PA. Which do you think is correct?
LATE EDIT: I'm inclined to do this for BOTH Vargas and Juan Peron of Argentina--change them to Social Democrats and put in a second PA persona. Paradox has done something similar with Sheng Shicai (Sinkiang) so this is not without precedent. That way their numbers stay the same for compatibility reasons with other mods. But the practical effect of having Vargas as LWR is that the Soviet Union can sometimes ally Brazil with +200 relations. In real life I don't think Stalin would have had a snowball's chance in Hades of convincing Vargas to join the Comintern. On the other hand, had Hitler won the war, there is a very real chance he'd agree to join the German alliance. Comments please--agree or disagree?
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Let's do the following, then: The 30's Vargas should be PA, as the player can choose to hover between the Axis and the Allies (as it really happened). A few clicks in the slider and Vargas become axis or he just get's closer to the allies. There's no possibility of an alliance with USSR with a PA government and he's not LWR either.
The second personality (the 50s) should remain as SD.
About the coup, Vargas didn't got removed from office because he became too democratic. It was the opposite. The society felt it was a little irrational to have a President that was in fact an dictator leading the country against the fascist powers (that Vargas was friendly to, prior the war). The military couped Vargas in order to RESTORE democracy (weird, but true) and the Generals that ruled Brazil after that were elected by the people.
PS: I'm trying to make a ministers file but I have some problems. Brazil only had an "Intelligence" in the late 50's, for example. And even with positions that existed i'm having trouble finding information about who occupied those positions (even more problems with pictures, ideology, etc).
hey nomonhan, i've just tried ur mod and i think it's a great idea. but i found a few bugs:
1. in the industry tech page, the encryption/decryption lines point to the wrong computing machines
2. i've played the cold war scenario with comunist china (loads of fun) but when the Kuomintang (the nationalists) retreats to taiwan, the province xinjian (or something like that... some xinsomething in manchuria) still remains owned by nat chi and occupied by com chi.
3. in the same situation (cold war with com chi) when the korean war starts for some reason "the fading sun" event (jap surrenders to china) gets triggered and PRK becomes puppet of com chi; and then the event which makes PRK a soviet puppet gets fired and PRK makes peace with the allies while com chi is still at war.
4. after the PRC was formed in tibet event i chose to tell them to rejoin (or something like that) instead of direct war and tibet went with "we can not resist" (which the name suggests should have gave me all the tibetan territories) but nothing happened...
1. in the industry tech page, the encryption/decryption lines point to the wrong computing machines
2. i've played the cold war scenario with comunist china (loads of fun) but when the Kuomintang (the nationalists) retreats to taiwan, the province xinjian (or something like that... some xinsomething in manchuria) still remains owned by nat chi and occupied by com chi.
3. in the same situation (cold war with com chi) when the korean war starts for some reason "the fading sun" event (jap surrenders to china) gets triggered and PRK becomes puppet of com chi; and then the event which makes PRK a soviet puppet gets fired and PRK makes peace with the allies while com chi is still at war.
4. after the PRC was formed in tibet event i chose to tell them to rejoin (or something like that) instead of direct war and tibet went with "we can not resist" (which the name suggests should have gave me all the tibetan territories) but nothing happened...
HitmanRO,
1) Do you mean a cosmetic bug where the lines go to the wrong computing machines? That's the only mistake I could find and it will be corrected in the next release.
2) The other issues are CCIP related. The appropriate events will either need to be rewritten or put in the event history. I shall work on this.
Ringwraith_JP and danielshannon,
Changing Brazil's government marks a major departure from Vanilla and I would not have proceeded without your input. I guess we're all agreed that Vargas was PA in the 1932-45 period, and that the game's option of allowing the Soviet Union to ally them in the WW2 period is historically incorrect. The straightforward answer of changing Vargas to PA in the files, however, may not be the best answer for gameplay reasons. Here is the reason:
I want this package to be used by TWO kinds of people:
A-People who want my events package and
B-People who do not want my events package but prefer to use something else, like Vanilla, SMEP, TRP, etc.
I've not yet decided on a solution. I will either
1-have Vargas with dual entries SD and PA
2-change Vargas to PA and submit modified inc files for the 1936, 1939, 1941 and 1944 scenarios.
Am leaning towards #2 but this means some Paradox events that sometimes remove Vargas and put in Eduardo Gomes will no longer fire. It may still be the best answer.
LATE NOTE: I also discovered that Afrânio de Melo Franco died in 1943. His inclusion as a 1951 start SD HOS/HOG is inappropriate so his lines (34196 and 34198) can be used for someone else.
I've got a tentative Brazil file revision as follows:
1- removed Afrânio de Melo Franco. I have a thing against dead people in the files.
2- Initial 10 ministers changed from LWR/SD to PA/SC
3- Eduardo Gomes (ML HOS/HOG ) start date moved to 1936
4- Initial ministers except for Vargas cloned as SD just so an alternative government of Brazil in 1936 can have ministers.
5- 1951 ministers are all SD (some were SC) except for the military who remain SC
Ringwraith_JP--Do you approve of the changes?
As for making the files, you don't have to have a picture of all of the people. The picture name can simply read 'unknown'.
As for personality,make an educated guess.
1) Do you mean a cosmetic bug where the lines go to the wrong computing machines? That's the only mistake I could find and it will be corrected in the next release.
2) The other issues are CCIP related. The appropriate events will either need to be rewritten or put in the event history. I shall work on this.
Ringwraith_JP and danielshannon,
Changing Brazil's government marks a major departure from Vanilla and I would not have proceeded without your input. I guess we're all agreed that Vargas was PA in the 1932-45 period, and that the game's option of allowing the Soviet Union to ally them in the WW2 period is historically incorrect. The straightforward answer of changing Vargas to PA in the files, however, may not be the best answer for gameplay reasons. Here is the reason:
I want this package to be used by TWO kinds of people:
A-People who want my events package and
B-People who do not want my events package but prefer to use something else, like Vanilla, SMEP, TRP, etc.
I've not yet decided on a solution. I will either
1-have Vargas with dual entries SD and PA
2-change Vargas to PA and submit modified inc files for the 1936, 1939, 1941 and 1944 scenarios.
Am leaning towards #2 but this means some Paradox events that sometimes remove Vargas and put in Eduardo Gomes will no longer fire. It may still be the best answer.
LATE NOTE: I also discovered that Afrânio de Melo Franco died in 1943. His inclusion as a 1951 start SD HOS/HOG is inappropriate so his lines (34196 and 34198) can be used for someone else.
I've got a tentative Brazil file revision as follows:
1- removed Afrânio de Melo Franco. I have a thing against dead people in the files.
2- Initial 10 ministers changed from LWR/SD to PA/SC
3- Eduardo Gomes (ML HOS/HOG ) start date moved to 1936
4- Initial ministers except for Vargas cloned as SD just so an alternative government of Brazil in 1936 can have ministers.
5- 1951 ministers are all SD (some were SC) except for the military who remain SC
Ringwraith_JP--Do you approve of the changes?
As for making the files, you don't have to have a picture of all of the people. The picture name can simply read 'unknown'.
As for personality,make an educated guess.
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I still prefer the dual entries.
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That's what i came with, so far (note the absence of Heads of Intelligence):
Dutra's term
XXXXX;Minister of Armament;Pedro L Correia e Castro;45;SC;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Carlos Luz;45;SC;Back Stabber;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Honório Fernandes Monteiro;45;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;José Francisco Bias Fortes;45;SD;Crime Fighter;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Salvador César Obino;44;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Álcio Souto;45;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;João do Amorim e Melo;45;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Canrobert Pereira da Costa;45;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Air Force;Armando Trompowsky de Almeida;45;SC;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
Second Vargas' term
XXXXX;Head of State;Getúlio Vargas;50;SD;Die-hard Reformer;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Head of Government;Getúlio Vargas;50;SD;Smiling Oilman;Medium;XXXXX;x
XXXXX;Foreign Minister;Vicente Rao;50;SC;Iron-fisted Brute ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Armament;Horácio Lafer;50;SD;Resource Industrialist ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Armament;Osvaldo Aranha;50;SD;Administrative Genius ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Francisco Negrão de Lima;SC;Efficient Sociopath ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Tancredo Neves;50;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Pedro Aurélio de Góis Monteiro;50;SC;School of Fire Support;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Aguinaldo Caiado de Castro ;50;SD;School of Fire Support;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Navy;Renato Almeida Guillobel;50;SC;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Newton Estillac Leal;50;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Very Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Euclides Zenóbio da Costa;50;SC;Decisive Battle Doctrine ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
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I'm starting to think that none of the Heads of Intelligence present in the game really existed. I find no information about them anywhere.
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That's what i came with, so far (note the absence of Heads of Intelligence):
Dutra's term
XXXXX;Minister of Armament;Pedro L Correia e Castro;45;SC;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Carlos Luz;45;SC;Back Stabber;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Honório Fernandes Monteiro;45;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;José Francisco Bias Fortes;45;SD;Crime Fighter;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Salvador César Obino;44;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Álcio Souto;45;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;João do Amorim e Melo;45;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Canrobert Pereira da Costa;45;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Air Force;Armando Trompowsky de Almeida;45;SC;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
Second Vargas' term
XXXXX;Head of State;Getúlio Vargas;50;SD;Die-hard Reformer;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Head of Government;Getúlio Vargas;50;SD;Smiling Oilman;Medium;XXXXX;x
XXXXX;Foreign Minister;Vicente Rao;50;SC;Iron-fisted Brute ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Armament;Horácio Lafer;50;SD;Resource Industrialist ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Armament;Osvaldo Aranha;50;SD;Administrative Genius ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Francisco Negrão de Lima;SC;Efficient Sociopath ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Minister of Security;Tancredo Neves;50;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Pedro Aurélio de Góis Monteiro;50;SC;School of Fire Support;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Staff;Aguinaldo Caiado de Castro ;50;SD;School of Fire Support;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Navy;Renato Almeida Guillobel;50;SC;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Newton Estillac Leal;50;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Very Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;XXXXXX;x
XXXXX;Chief of Army;Euclides Zenóbio da Costa;50;SC;Decisive Battle Doctrine ;Medium;XXXXXX;x
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I'm starting to think that none of the Heads of Intelligence present in the game really existed. I find no information about them anywhere.
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Ringwraith_JP,
I did put in everyone with dual entries except for Vargas himself. Do you want a second entry for Vargas also as SD from 1936 onwards? I can easily do that by changing the start date of his 51 HOS entry to 36 and adding another one for HOG. And I can start Gomes at any time 1937 or earlier. What is your preference? I was also thinking of making Brazil PA but with political left set to 3 or 4, so one click of the mouse could make Brazil SC or LWR, and two clicks would make it FA, but the default and AI behavior would be PA. Does that meet with your approval?
Here's what I came up with for the dual entries:
34001;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;36;PA;Autocratic Charmer;High;M34001;x
34002;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;36;PA;Naive Optimist;High;M34001;x
34003;Foreign Minister;José de Macedo Soares;36;PA;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34003;x
34004;Minister of Armament;Café Filho;36;SC;Military Entrepreneur;Low;M34004;x
34005;Minister of Security;Marcondes Filho;36;SC;Crime Fighter;High;M34005;x
34006;Head of Military Intelligence;Filinto Muller;36;SC;Political Specialist;Very High;M34006;x
34007;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;36;PA;School of Defence;Medium;M34007;x
34008;Chief of Army;Joao Neves da Fontoura;36;PA;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34008;x
34009;Chief of Navy;Aristides Guilhem;36;SC;Open Seas Doctrine;Medium;M34009;x
34010;Chief of Air Force;Salgado Filho;36;PA;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34010;x
34013;Foreign Minister;Raoul Fernandes;36;SC;Great Compromiser;Medium;M34013;x
34023;Foreign Minister;José de Macedo Soares;36;SD;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34003;x
34024;Minister of Armament;Café Filho;36;SD;Military Entrepreneur;Low;M34004;x
34025;Minister of Security;Marcondes Filho;36;SD;Crime Fighter;High;M34005;x
34026;Head of Military Intelligence;Filinto Muller;36;SD;Political Specialist;Very High;M34006;x
34027;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;36;SD;School of Defence;Medium;M34007;x
34028;Chief of Army;Joao Neves da Fontoura;36;SD;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34008;x
34029;Chief of Navy;Aristides Guilhem;36;SD;Open Seas Doctrine;Medium;M34009;x
34030;Chief of Air Force;Salgado Filho;36;SD;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34010;x
34195;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;36;SD;Die-hard Reformer;High;M34001;x
34196;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;36;SD;Smiling Oilman;High;M34001;x
I would not be surprised if Paradox made up some of the people. For Minister of Intelligence, you can always put in a military person as 'Logistics Specialist' or someone with industrial knowledge as 'Industrial specialist' if you have no better choices. Political Specialist is good if you have someone who has detailed knowledge of foreign factional politics and/or knowledge of how to infiltrate hostile political groups.
I did put in everyone with dual entries except for Vargas himself. Do you want a second entry for Vargas also as SD from 1936 onwards? I can easily do that by changing the start date of his 51 HOS entry to 36 and adding another one for HOG. And I can start Gomes at any time 1937 or earlier. What is your preference? I was also thinking of making Brazil PA but with political left set to 3 or 4, so one click of the mouse could make Brazil SC or LWR, and two clicks would make it FA, but the default and AI behavior would be PA. Does that meet with your approval?
Here's what I came up with for the dual entries:
34001;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;36;PA;Autocratic Charmer;High;M34001;x
34002;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;36;PA;Naive Optimist;High;M34001;x
34003;Foreign Minister;José de Macedo Soares;36;PA;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34003;x
34004;Minister of Armament;Café Filho;36;SC;Military Entrepreneur;Low;M34004;x
34005;Minister of Security;Marcondes Filho;36;SC;Crime Fighter;High;M34005;x
34006;Head of Military Intelligence;Filinto Muller;36;SC;Political Specialist;Very High;M34006;x
34007;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;36;PA;School of Defence;Medium;M34007;x
34008;Chief of Army;Joao Neves da Fontoura;36;PA;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34008;x
34009;Chief of Navy;Aristides Guilhem;36;SC;Open Seas Doctrine;Medium;M34009;x
34010;Chief of Air Force;Salgado Filho;36;PA;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34010;x
34013;Foreign Minister;Raoul Fernandes;36;SC;Great Compromiser;Medium;M34013;x
34023;Foreign Minister;José de Macedo Soares;36;SD;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34003;x
34024;Minister of Armament;Café Filho;36;SD;Military Entrepreneur;Low;M34004;x
34025;Minister of Security;Marcondes Filho;36;SD;Crime Fighter;High;M34005;x
34026;Head of Military Intelligence;Filinto Muller;36;SD;Political Specialist;Very High;M34006;x
34027;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;36;SD;School of Defence;Medium;M34007;x
34028;Chief of Army;Joao Neves da Fontoura;36;SD;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34008;x
34029;Chief of Navy;Aristides Guilhem;36;SD;Open Seas Doctrine;Medium;M34009;x
34030;Chief of Air Force;Salgado Filho;36;SD;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34010;x
34195;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;36;SD;Die-hard Reformer;High;M34001;x
34196;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;36;SD;Smiling Oilman;High;M34001;x
I would not be surprised if Paradox made up some of the people. For Minister of Intelligence, you can always put in a military person as 'Logistics Specialist' or someone with industrial knowledge as 'Industrial specialist' if you have no better choices. Political Specialist is good if you have someone who has detailed knowledge of foreign factional politics and/or knowledge of how to infiltrate hostile political groups.
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Note: I've edited my previous post just before you posted.
About the dual entries, i believe we only need one for Vargas in 1936 as PA, and one in 1950 as SD. For HoE and HoG.
And about the PA stuff, sounds perfect! The two paths are now a possibility, as it was in RL.
OK here's what I propose:
1) Make Vargas' initial cabinet PA/SC as posted
2) Clone Vargas' ministers as SD
3) Start Eduardo Gomes in 36 and change him to SL for gameplay reasons--this is so that the game engine is less likely to install Prestes the Stalinist unless Brazil is taken to Leninist or something. If I don't do that then the game engine is likely to install Prestes as HOS/HOG for social democracy.
1) Make Vargas' initial cabinet PA/SC as posted
2) Clone Vargas' ministers as SD
3) Start Eduardo Gomes in 36 and change him to SL for gameplay reasons--this is so that the game engine is less likely to install Prestes the Stalinist unless Brazil is taken to Leninist or something. If I don't do that then the game engine is likely to install Prestes as HOS/HOG for social democracy.
Is that really necessary to clone all of Vargas' cabinet? It had some substantial changes, the cabinet is the one i posted up there.
one question for the community (i'm sorry if anyone asked it before and the issue was debated but i just found out about this mod and i'm too lazy to read the 9 pages of comments):
does anyone have the skills, time and willpower to create some cool-looking models for the new units added?? i would do something like that but my artistic talents are comparable to those of a log.
does anyone have the skills, time and willpower to create some cool-looking models for the new units added?? i would do something like that but my artistic talents are comparable to those of a log.
I'm talking about the 36 cabinet.
EDIT: Found out that for gameplay reasons things work best if Vargas himself is SC. That way he stays as HOS/HOG in 1936 regardless of what government you have as long as it's democratic. But if you go to LWR you get the Communist Carlos Luis Prestes. He stays HOS/HOG in the fascist zone also, but if you make Brazil National Socialist then Plinio Salgado comes in. The rest of the ministers can be SC or PA. I've found a few credible Communists whom I'll add, and if anyone can think of new left-democratic ministers, or have reason to believe one of those in the game can start earlier, please feel free to make your suggestions. If I can find a complete communist cabinet I'll consider starting some of Vargas' 50 ministers early.
I actually think Brazil was borderline democratic in 1936 because there was a National Assembly that was dissolved in 1937 with the Estado Novo, which was a clear right-wing dictatorship modeled on Salazar's.
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I don't like it... Can ML be achieved in an autoritarian country (i'm not completley sure, game mechanics and stuff)? Brazil was an dictatorship at the time, and ML sounds off the scale of possibilities.
Ringwraith_JP
Changed my mind while you were posting and am making him SC. If I make him PA then Salgado never comes in. Acceptable?
The issue is this: If you tweak the sliders, the game engine will automatically change the leaders at certain points, and sometimes it is best to set the ideology a little bit off the "real" ideology. Otherwise you have to write more events to handle the situation. For example if I make Vargas PA then I have to write an event to make Salgado come in if Brazil becomes National Socialist.
For gameplay reasons people may want to play Brazil with alternate histories and tweak the sliders their way. Should Brazil be Social Conservative (just barely democratic) in 36 or should it be PA?
Changed my mind while you were posting and am making him SC. If I make him PA then Salgado never comes in. Acceptable?
The issue is this: If you tweak the sliders, the game engine will automatically change the leaders at certain points, and sometimes it is best to set the ideology a little bit off the "real" ideology. Otherwise you have to write more events to handle the situation. For example if I make Vargas PA then I have to write an event to make Salgado come in if Brazil becomes National Socialist.
For gameplay reasons people may want to play Brazil with alternate histories and tweak the sliders their way. Should Brazil be Social Conservative (just barely democratic) in 36 or should it be PA?
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I prefer PA. Because that's realistic, if Brazil drifted towards the Axis then Vargas would remain in power. It was Vargas' politics to remain close to both sides of the war, so he could choose. I don't see why to have a change in government if Vargas allied Brazil with the Axis. Salgado would only be HoE with a coup or at the far right (NA).
EDIT--I'm not taking issue with you on facts, only on gameplay mechanics. I've tested things by using the F12 freedom cheat and playing around with the sliders. I have to do one of two things to prevent Luis Carlos Prestes from being installed by a Social Democratic government:
1) Set Vargas to SC or
2) Activate Eduardo Gomes early
I've decided on #2.
Here's the file:
BRA;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
34001;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;33;PA;Autocratic Charmer;High;M34001;x
34002;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;33;PA;Naive Optimist;High;M34001;x
34003;Foreign Minister;José de Macedo Soares;33;SC;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34003;x
34004;Minister of Armament;Café Filho;33;SC;Military Entrepreneur;Low;M34004;x
34005;Minister of Security;Marcondes Filho;33;SC;Crime Fighter;High;M34005;x
34006;Head of Military Intelligence;Filinto Müller;33;PA;Political Specialist;Very High;M34006;x
34007;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;33;PA;School of Defence;Medium;M34007;x
34008;Chief of Army;Joao Neves da Fontoura;33;PA;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34008;x
34009;Chief of Navy;Aristides Guilhem;33;SC;Open Seas Doctrine;Medium;M34009;x
34010;Chief of Air Force;Salgado Filho;33;PA;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34010;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
34063;Head of State;Luis Carlos Prestes;33;ST;Die-hard Reformer;High;M34051;x
34064;Head of State;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;Benevolent Gentleman;High;M34031;x
34065;Head of State;Eduardo Gomes;33;ML;Stern Imperialist;High;M34021;x
34066;Head of State;Washington Luis Pereira;43;SC;Insignificant Layman;High;M34066;x
34067;Head of State;Gaspar Dutra;45;SC;Weary Stiffneck;High;M34011;x
34068;Head of State;Plinio Salgado;33;NS;Powerhungry Demagogue;High;M34041;x
34069;Head of Government;Nereu Ramos;45;SC;Silent Workhorse;High;M34069;x
34070;Head of Government;Luis Carlos Prestes;33;ST;Smiling Oilman;High;M34051;x
34071;Head of Government;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;Naive Optimist;High;M34031;x
34072;Head of Government;Eduardo Gomes;33;ML;Flamboyant Tough Guy;High;M34021;x
34073;Head of Government;Washington Luis Pereira;43;SC;Naive Optimist;High;M34066;x
34074;Head of Government;Gaspar Dutra;45;PA;Old General;High;M34011;x
34075;Head of Government;Plinio Salgado;33;NS;Backroom Backstabber;High;M34041;x
34076;Foreign Minister;Oswaldo Aranha;38;PA;Biased Intellectual;Medium;M34076;x
34077;Foreign Minister;Pedro Leão Veloso;44;PA;Great Compromiser;Medium;M34077;x
34078;Foreign Minister;Henry Berger;39;ST;Ideological Crusader;Very Low;M34053;x
34079;Foreign Minister;Oscar Weinschenck;42;ST;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;High;M34079;x
34080;Foreign Minister;Mario Pimentel Brandão;37;SD;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;High;M34080;x
34081;Foreign Minister;Otavio Mangabeira;45;SD;Great Compromiser;High;M34033;x
34082;Foreign Minister;Otavio Mangabeira;37;ML;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;Low;M34033;x
34083;Foreign Minister;Afranio de Mello Franco;39;ML;Great Compromiser;High;M34083;x
34084;Foreign Minister;Acyr de Nascimento Paes;43;ML;Biased Intellectual;Low;M34084;x
34086;Foreign Minister;Paso Fernandes Morã;43;SC;Ideological Crusader;High;M34086;x
34087;Foreign Minister;S. de Sousa Leão Gracíe;46;SC;Biased Intellectual;High;M34087;x
34088;Foreign Minister;Raul Fernandes;47;SC;Great Compromiser;High;M34013;x
34089;Foreign Minister;Joao Neves da Fontoura;45;SC;General Staffer;High;M34008;x
34090;Foreign Minister;Miguel Costas;37;FA;Iron Fisted Brute;Low;M34043;x
34091;Foreign Minister;Plinio Salgado;42;FA;Apologetic Clerk;Medium;M34041;x
34092;Foreign Minister;Newton Cavalcanti;44;FA;General Staffer;Medium;M34047;x
34093;Minister of Armament;Januario Coelho Neto;37;PA;Tank Proponent;High;M34093;x
34094;Minister of Armament;José de Macedo Soares;39;PA;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;M34003;x
34095;Minister of Armament;Getulio Vargas;41;PA;Administrative Genius;High;M34001;x
34096;Minister of Armament;Agustin Juarez Folhã;43;PA;Corrupt Kleptocrat;Medium;M34096;x
34098;Minister of Armament;Henry Berger;41;ST;Air Superiority Proponent;Very Low;M34053;x
34099;Minister of Armament;Luis Carlos Prestes;45;SD;Strategic Air Proponent;Very Low;M34051;x
34101;Minister of Armament;Americo de Almeida;37;ML;Resource Industrialist;Medium;M34024;x
34103;Minister of Armament;Gastão da Cunha Bahiana;39;ML;Theoretical Scientist;Medium;M34103;x
34104;Minister of Armament;José Linhares Filho;40;ML;Laissez Faires Capitalist;High;M34104;x
34105;Minister of Armament;Eduardo Gomes;43;ML;Air to Ground Proponent;Medium;M34021;x
34106;Minister of Armament;Elyseu F. de Montarroyos;45;ML;Air Superiority Proponent;High;M34106;x
34107;Minister of Armament;Washington Luis Pereira;43;SC;Administrative Genius;Low;M34066;x
34108;Minister of Armament;Afranio de Mello Franco;42;SC;Battle Fleet Proponent;High;M34083;x
34109;Minister of Armament;Gastão Vidigal;45;SC;Resource Industrialist;High;M34014;x
34110;Minister of Armament;Gustavo Barroso;46;SC;Submarine Proponent;Medium;M34044;x
34111;Minister of Armament;Gustavo Barroso;37;FA;Military Entrepreneur;Medium;M34044;x
34112;Minister of Armament;Waldemar Costa Neto;41;FA;Infantry Proponent;High;M34112;x
34113;Minister of Armament;Carlos Ferreira de Camargo;43;FA;Laissez Faires Capitalist;High;M34113;x
34114;Minister of Security;Pedro Leão Veloso;37;PA;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;M34077;x
34115;Minister of Security;Manuel A. Venâncio;40;PA;Man of the People;Low;M34035;x
34116;Minister of Security;Mario Pimentel Brandão;43;PA;Crooked Kleptocrat;High;M34080;x
34117;Minister of Security;Carlos Abguar Bastos;39;ST;Prince of Terror;High;M34055;x
34119;Minister of Security;Ademar de Carvalho Gomes;44;ST;Man of the People;High;M34119;x
34120;Minister of Security;Guilherme Guinlé de Silvio;39;SD;Efficient Sociopath;High;M34118;x
34121;Minister of Security;Oscar Weinschenck;41;SD;Silent Lawyer;High;M34079;x
34122;Minister of Security;Carlos Abguar Bastos;45;SD;Back Stabber;Low;M34055;x
34124;Minister of Security;Costa Neto;37;ML;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;M34015;x
34125;Minister of Security;Mesquito da Costa;39;ML;Silent Lawyer;High;M34025;x
34126;Minister of Security;Teotonio da Fonseca;43;ML;Prince of Terror;High;M34126;x
34127;Minister of Security;Raul Fernandes;43;SC;Back Stabber;High;M34013;x
34128;Minister of Security;Epitacio da Silva Pessoa;45;SC;Crime Fighter;Medium;M34128;x
34129;Minister of Security;Teotonio da Fonseca;46;SC;Prince of Terror;High;M34126;x
34130;Minister of Security;Carlos Almeida Neto;47;SC;Efficient Sociopath;High;M34130;x
34131;Minister of Security;Riccardo Cassiano;37;FA;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;M34045;x
34132;Minister of Security;Carlos Ferreira de Camargo;40;FA;Prince of Terror;High;M34113;x
34133;Minister of Security;Carlos Almeida Neto;43;FA;Back Stabber;High;M34130;x
34134;Head of Military Intelligence;Raulinho Volta Redondo;39;PA;Logistics Specialist;High;M34134;x
34135;Head of Military Intelligence;Ahusto de Souza e Silva;43;PA;Political Specialist;High;M34056;x
34137;Head of Military Intelligence;Ademar de Carvalho Gomes;43;ST;Naval Intelligence Specialist;High;M34119;x
34139;Head of Military Intelligence;Manuel A. Venâncio;45;SD;Technical Specialist;Low;M34035;x
34140;Head of Military Intelligence;Costa Neto;37;ML;Naval Intelligence Specialist;Medium;M34015;x
34141;Head of Military Intelligence;Mesquito da Costa;39;ML;Dismal Enigma;High;M34025;x
34143;Head of Military Intelligence;Rodrigo Octavio;45;ML;Political Specialist;High;M34143;x
34144;Head of Military Intelligence;Pedro Perotti;43;SC;Dismal Enigma;Medium;M34144;x
34146;Head of Military Intelligence;Riccardo Cassiano;37;FA;Political Specialist;Medium;M34045;x
34148;Head of Military Intelligence;Carlos Almeida Neto;44;FA;Logistics Specialist;High;M34130;x
34149;Chief of Staff;Magalhães Barata de Azevedo;43;PA;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;M34037;x
34150;Chief of Staff;Luis Carlos Prestes;39;ST;School of Mass Combat;Undying;M34051;x
34152;Chief of Staff;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34031;x
34153;Chief of Staff;Henrique Teixeira Lott;37;ML;School of Fire Support;Medium;M34027;x
34154;Chief of Staff;Argemiro Assis;39;ML;School of Defence;Medium;M34154;x
34155;Chief of Staff;Augusto da Gama Leiros;43;ML;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;M34155;x
34156;Chief of Staff;Mesquito da Costa;45;ML;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34025;x
34157;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;43;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34011;x
34158;Chief of Staff;Joao Neves da Fontoura;45;SC;School of Defence;High;M34008;x
34160;Chief of Staff;Newton Cavalcanti;37;FA;School of Psychology;Medium;M34047;x
34161;Chief of Staff;Tomas Sebistao de Mendonca;43;FA;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34161;x
34162;Chief of Army;Gaspar Dutra;37;PA;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34011;x
34163;Chief of Army;Silo Meireles;43;PA;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Very Low;M34058;x
34165;Chief of Army;Mario da Silva Camargo;41;ST;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;M34165;x
34166;Chief of Army;Magalhães Barata de Azevedo;39;SD;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;M34037;x
34167;Chief of Army;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34031;x
34168;Chief of Army;Henrique Teixeira Lott;37;ML;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;M34027;x
34169;Chief of Army;Argemiro Assis;39;ML;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34154;x
34170;Chief of Army;Augusto da Gama Leiros;43;ML;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;M34155;x
34171;Chief of Army;Mesquito da Costa;45;ML;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34025;x
34172;Chief of Army;Goes Monteiro;43;SC;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;M34018;x
34173;Chief of Army;Gaspar Dutra;45;SC;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34011;x
34174;Chief of Army;Tomas Sebistao de Mendonca;37;FA;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;M34161;x
34175;Chief of Army;Newton Cavalcanti;43;FA;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;M34047;x
34176;Chief of Navy;Alvaro de Souza;37;PA;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Very Low;M34059;x
34179;Chief of Navy;Moreira Lima;39;SD;Power Projection Doctrine;Low;M34039;x
34180;Chief of Navy;Jorge Martins;37;ML;Base Control Doctrine;Medium;M34029;x
34181;Chief of Navy;Sylvio de Noronha;43;SC;Open Seas Doctrine;High;M34019;x
34182;Chief of Navy;Floriano Peixoto;45;SC;Decisive Naval Battle Doctrine;High;M34182;x
34183;Chief of Navy;Tarcisio Padilha;37;FA;Decisive Naval Battle Doctrine;Medium;M34049;x
34185;Chief of Air Force;Epaminondas dos Santos;43;PA;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;M34040;x
34186;Chief of Air Force;Agliberto Vieira;39;ST;Naval Aviation Doctrine;Very High;M34060;x
34187;Chief of Air Force;Leonel Benevides de Rezende;44;ST;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Very High;M34187;x
34190;Chief of Air Force;Nero Moura;37;ML;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Medium;M34030;x
34191;Chief of Air Force;Figueira de Almeida;43;SC;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34020;x
34192;Chief of Air Force;Eduardo Gomés;45;SC;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34021;x
34193;Chief of Air Force;Mourão Filho;37;FA;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Very High;M34050;x
34194;Head of State;José Linhares Filho;45;SC;Popular Figurehead;High;M34104;x
34013;Foreign Minister;Raoul Fernandes;33;SC;Great Compromiser;Medium;M34013;x
34023;Foreign Minister;João Amazonas;35;ST;Ideological Crusader;High;M34023;x
34024;Minister of Armament;Luis Carlos Prestes;33;ST;Military Entrepreneur;High;M34051;x
34025;Minister of Security;Miguel Costa;33;ST;Efficient Sociopath;Low;M34026;x
34026;Head of Military Intelligence;Miguel Costa;33;LE;Logistics Specialist;Low;M34026;x
34028;Chief of Army;Miguel Costa;40;ST;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;M34026;x
34195;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;50;SD;Die-hard Reformer;High;M34001;x
34196;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;50;SD;Smiling Oilman;High;M34001;x
34197;Head of Government;Café Filho;50;SD;Silent Workhorse;High;M34004;x
34198;Foreign Minister;Vicente Raõ;33;SL;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34200;x
34199;Foreign Minister;Manuel A. Venâncio;50;SD;Biased Intellectual;Medium;M34035;x
34200;Minister of Armament;Vicente Raõ;33;SL;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;M34200;x
34201;Minister of Armament;S. Rauliono de Oliviera;50;SD;Resource Industrialist;Medium;M34201;x
34202;Minister of Security;José de Macedo Soares;33;SL;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;M34202;x
34203;Minister of Security;Horacio Lafér;50;SD;Crime Fighter;Medium;M34203;x
34204;Head of Military Intelligence;Raoul Fernandes;33;SL;Political Specialist;High;M34013;x
34205;Head of Military Intelligence;Horacio Lafér;50;SD;Dismal Enigma;High;M34203;x
34206;Chief of Staff;Amaury Kruel;50;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;L31091;x
34207;Chief of Army;Artur da Costa é Silva;50;SC;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;L31012;x
34208;Chief of Air Force;Ismael Motta Paes;45;SC;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;L31078;x
34209;Head of State;Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira;56;ML;Benevolent Gentleman;Medium;M34209;x
34210;Head of State;Jânio Quadros;61;ML;Popular Figurehead;Medium;M34210;x
34211;Head of Government;João Goulart;56;SD;Ambitious Union Boss;Medium;M34211;x
34212;Head of State;João Goulart;61;SD;Die-hard Reformer;Medium;M34211;x
34213;Head of State;Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco;60;PA;Resigned Generalissimo;Medium;M34213;x
34214;Chief of Staff;Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco;60;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;M34213;x
34215;Head of Government;José Maria Alckmin;60;PA;Political Protege;Medium;M34215;x
34216;Minister of Armament;Pedro L Correia e Castro;45;SC;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;unknown;x
34217;Minister of Security;Carlos Luz;45;SC;Back Stabber;Medium;unknown;x
34218;Minister of Security;Honório Fernandes Monteiro;45;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;unknown;x
34219;Minister of Security;José Francisco Bias Fortes;45;SD;Crime Fighter;Medium;M34219;x
34220;Chief of Staff;Salvador César Obino;44;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34220;x
34221;Chief of Staff;Álcio Souto;45;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;unknown;x
34222;Chief of Staff;João do Amorim e Melo;45;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;unknown;x
34223;Chief of Army;Canrobert Pereira da Costa;45;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34223;x
34224;Chief of Air Force;Armando Trompowsky de Almeida;45;SC;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;M34224;x
34225;Minister of Armament;Horácio Lafer;50;SD;Resource Industrialist;Medium;M34203;x
34226;Minister of Armament;Osvaldo Aranha;50;SD;Administrative Genius;Medium;M34076;x
34227;Minister of Security;Francisco Negrão de Lima;50;SC;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;M34227;x
34228;Minister of Security;Tancredo Neves;50;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;M34228;x
34229;Chief of Staff;Pedro Aurélio de Góis Monteiro;50;SC;School of Fire Support;Medium;L31002;x
34230;Chief of Staff;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;L31089;x
34231;Chief of Staff;Aguinaldo Caiado de Castro;50;SD;School of Fire Support;Medium;unknown;x
34232;Chief of Navy;Renato Almeida Guillobel;50;SC;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Medium;M34232;x
34233;Chief of Army;Newton Estillac Leal;50;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;L31090;x
34234;Chief of Army;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;L31089;x
34235;Chief of Army;Euclides Zenóbio da Costa;50;SC;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;L31050;x
EDIT: I've just tested setting up Eduardo Gomes as ML with an earlier start date, and Vargas as PA and things work just about perfectly, and I'll write events to handle some situations:
1) if fascist, far right coup attempt in 38 5% chance success
2) if democratic election between Vargas SC and Gomes ML in late 37
3) if LWR and both Gomes as HOS and Prestes as HOG (happens sometimes depending on how you get to LWR) there is a power struggle--Gomes wins 97% of the time
1) Set Vargas to SC or
2) Activate Eduardo Gomes early
I've decided on #2.
Here's the file:
BRA;Ruling Cabinet - Start;Name;Pool;Ideology;Personality;Loyalty;Picturename;x
34001;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;33;PA;Autocratic Charmer;High;M34001;x
34002;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;33;PA;Naive Optimist;High;M34001;x
34003;Foreign Minister;José de Macedo Soares;33;SC;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34003;x
34004;Minister of Armament;Café Filho;33;SC;Military Entrepreneur;Low;M34004;x
34005;Minister of Security;Marcondes Filho;33;SC;Crime Fighter;High;M34005;x
34006;Head of Military Intelligence;Filinto Müller;33;PA;Political Specialist;Very High;M34006;x
34007;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;33;PA;School of Defence;Medium;M34007;x
34008;Chief of Army;Joao Neves da Fontoura;33;PA;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34008;x
34009;Chief of Navy;Aristides Guilhem;33;SC;Open Seas Doctrine;Medium;M34009;x
34010;Chief of Air Force;Salgado Filho;33;PA;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34010;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x
34063;Head of State;Luis Carlos Prestes;33;ST;Die-hard Reformer;High;M34051;x
34064;Head of State;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;Benevolent Gentleman;High;M34031;x
34065;Head of State;Eduardo Gomes;33;ML;Stern Imperialist;High;M34021;x
34066;Head of State;Washington Luis Pereira;43;SC;Insignificant Layman;High;M34066;x
34067;Head of State;Gaspar Dutra;45;SC;Weary Stiffneck;High;M34011;x
34068;Head of State;Plinio Salgado;33;NS;Powerhungry Demagogue;High;M34041;x
34069;Head of Government;Nereu Ramos;45;SC;Silent Workhorse;High;M34069;x
34070;Head of Government;Luis Carlos Prestes;33;ST;Smiling Oilman;High;M34051;x
34071;Head of Government;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;Naive Optimist;High;M34031;x
34072;Head of Government;Eduardo Gomes;33;ML;Flamboyant Tough Guy;High;M34021;x
34073;Head of Government;Washington Luis Pereira;43;SC;Naive Optimist;High;M34066;x
34074;Head of Government;Gaspar Dutra;45;PA;Old General;High;M34011;x
34075;Head of Government;Plinio Salgado;33;NS;Backroom Backstabber;High;M34041;x
34076;Foreign Minister;Oswaldo Aranha;38;PA;Biased Intellectual;Medium;M34076;x
34077;Foreign Minister;Pedro Leão Veloso;44;PA;Great Compromiser;Medium;M34077;x
34078;Foreign Minister;Henry Berger;39;ST;Ideological Crusader;Very Low;M34053;x
34079;Foreign Minister;Oscar Weinschenck;42;ST;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;High;M34079;x
34080;Foreign Minister;Mario Pimentel Brandão;37;SD;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;High;M34080;x
34081;Foreign Minister;Otavio Mangabeira;45;SD;Great Compromiser;High;M34033;x
34082;Foreign Minister;Otavio Mangabeira;37;ML;The Cloak N Dagger Schemer;Low;M34033;x
34083;Foreign Minister;Afranio de Mello Franco;39;ML;Great Compromiser;High;M34083;x
34084;Foreign Minister;Acyr de Nascimento Paes;43;ML;Biased Intellectual;Low;M34084;x
34086;Foreign Minister;Paso Fernandes Morã;43;SC;Ideological Crusader;High;M34086;x
34087;Foreign Minister;S. de Sousa Leão Gracíe;46;SC;Biased Intellectual;High;M34087;x
34088;Foreign Minister;Raul Fernandes;47;SC;Great Compromiser;High;M34013;x
34089;Foreign Minister;Joao Neves da Fontoura;45;SC;General Staffer;High;M34008;x
34090;Foreign Minister;Miguel Costas;37;FA;Iron Fisted Brute;Low;M34043;x
34091;Foreign Minister;Plinio Salgado;42;FA;Apologetic Clerk;Medium;M34041;x
34092;Foreign Minister;Newton Cavalcanti;44;FA;General Staffer;Medium;M34047;x
34093;Minister of Armament;Januario Coelho Neto;37;PA;Tank Proponent;High;M34093;x
34094;Minister of Armament;José de Macedo Soares;39;PA;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;M34003;x
34095;Minister of Armament;Getulio Vargas;41;PA;Administrative Genius;High;M34001;x
34096;Minister of Armament;Agustin Juarez Folhã;43;PA;Corrupt Kleptocrat;Medium;M34096;x
34098;Minister of Armament;Henry Berger;41;ST;Air Superiority Proponent;Very Low;M34053;x
34099;Minister of Armament;Luis Carlos Prestes;45;SD;Strategic Air Proponent;Very Low;M34051;x
34101;Minister of Armament;Americo de Almeida;37;ML;Resource Industrialist;Medium;M34024;x
34103;Minister of Armament;Gastão da Cunha Bahiana;39;ML;Theoretical Scientist;Medium;M34103;x
34104;Minister of Armament;José Linhares Filho;40;ML;Laissez Faires Capitalist;High;M34104;x
34105;Minister of Armament;Eduardo Gomes;43;ML;Air to Ground Proponent;Medium;M34021;x
34106;Minister of Armament;Elyseu F. de Montarroyos;45;ML;Air Superiority Proponent;High;M34106;x
34107;Minister of Armament;Washington Luis Pereira;43;SC;Administrative Genius;Low;M34066;x
34108;Minister of Armament;Afranio de Mello Franco;42;SC;Battle Fleet Proponent;High;M34083;x
34109;Minister of Armament;Gastão Vidigal;45;SC;Resource Industrialist;High;M34014;x
34110;Minister of Armament;Gustavo Barroso;46;SC;Submarine Proponent;Medium;M34044;x
34111;Minister of Armament;Gustavo Barroso;37;FA;Military Entrepreneur;Medium;M34044;x
34112;Minister of Armament;Waldemar Costa Neto;41;FA;Infantry Proponent;High;M34112;x
34113;Minister of Armament;Carlos Ferreira de Camargo;43;FA;Laissez Faires Capitalist;High;M34113;x
34114;Minister of Security;Pedro Leão Veloso;37;PA;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;M34077;x
34115;Minister of Security;Manuel A. Venâncio;40;PA;Man of the People;Low;M34035;x
34116;Minister of Security;Mario Pimentel Brandão;43;PA;Crooked Kleptocrat;High;M34080;x
34117;Minister of Security;Carlos Abguar Bastos;39;ST;Prince of Terror;High;M34055;x
34119;Minister of Security;Ademar de Carvalho Gomes;44;ST;Man of the People;High;M34119;x
34120;Minister of Security;Guilherme Guinlé de Silvio;39;SD;Efficient Sociopath;High;M34118;x
34121;Minister of Security;Oscar Weinschenck;41;SD;Silent Lawyer;High;M34079;x
34122;Minister of Security;Carlos Abguar Bastos;45;SD;Back Stabber;Low;M34055;x
34124;Minister of Security;Costa Neto;37;ML;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;M34015;x
34125;Minister of Security;Mesquito da Costa;39;ML;Silent Lawyer;High;M34025;x
34126;Minister of Security;Teotonio da Fonseca;43;ML;Prince of Terror;High;M34126;x
34127;Minister of Security;Raul Fernandes;43;SC;Back Stabber;High;M34013;x
34128;Minister of Security;Epitacio da Silva Pessoa;45;SC;Crime Fighter;Medium;M34128;x
34129;Minister of Security;Teotonio da Fonseca;46;SC;Prince of Terror;High;M34126;x
34130;Minister of Security;Carlos Almeida Neto;47;SC;Efficient Sociopath;High;M34130;x
34131;Minister of Security;Riccardo Cassiano;37;FA;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;M34045;x
34132;Minister of Security;Carlos Ferreira de Camargo;40;FA;Prince of Terror;High;M34113;x
34133;Minister of Security;Carlos Almeida Neto;43;FA;Back Stabber;High;M34130;x
34134;Head of Military Intelligence;Raulinho Volta Redondo;39;PA;Logistics Specialist;High;M34134;x
34135;Head of Military Intelligence;Ahusto de Souza e Silva;43;PA;Political Specialist;High;M34056;x
34137;Head of Military Intelligence;Ademar de Carvalho Gomes;43;ST;Naval Intelligence Specialist;High;M34119;x
34139;Head of Military Intelligence;Manuel A. Venâncio;45;SD;Technical Specialist;Low;M34035;x
34140;Head of Military Intelligence;Costa Neto;37;ML;Naval Intelligence Specialist;Medium;M34015;x
34141;Head of Military Intelligence;Mesquito da Costa;39;ML;Dismal Enigma;High;M34025;x
34143;Head of Military Intelligence;Rodrigo Octavio;45;ML;Political Specialist;High;M34143;x
34144;Head of Military Intelligence;Pedro Perotti;43;SC;Dismal Enigma;Medium;M34144;x
34146;Head of Military Intelligence;Riccardo Cassiano;37;FA;Political Specialist;Medium;M34045;x
34148;Head of Military Intelligence;Carlos Almeida Neto;44;FA;Logistics Specialist;High;M34130;x
34149;Chief of Staff;Magalhães Barata de Azevedo;43;PA;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;M34037;x
34150;Chief of Staff;Luis Carlos Prestes;39;ST;School of Mass Combat;Undying;M34051;x
34152;Chief of Staff;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34031;x
34153;Chief of Staff;Henrique Teixeira Lott;37;ML;School of Fire Support;Medium;M34027;x
34154;Chief of Staff;Argemiro Assis;39;ML;School of Defence;Medium;M34154;x
34155;Chief of Staff;Augusto da Gama Leiros;43;ML;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;M34155;x
34156;Chief of Staff;Mesquito da Costa;45;ML;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34025;x
34157;Chief of Staff;Gaspar Dutra;43;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34011;x
34158;Chief of Staff;Joao Neves da Fontoura;45;SC;School of Defence;High;M34008;x
34160;Chief of Staff;Newton Cavalcanti;37;FA;School of Psychology;Medium;M34047;x
34161;Chief of Staff;Tomas Sebistao de Mendonca;43;FA;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34161;x
34162;Chief of Army;Gaspar Dutra;37;PA;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34011;x
34163;Chief of Army;Silo Meireles;43;PA;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Very Low;M34058;x
34165;Chief of Army;Mario da Silva Camargo;41;ST;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;M34165;x
34166;Chief of Army;Magalhães Barata de Azevedo;39;SD;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;M34037;x
34167;Chief of Army;Nero Fiuza de Castro;45;SD;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34031;x
34168;Chief of Army;Henrique Teixeira Lott;37;ML;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;M34027;x
34169;Chief of Army;Argemiro Assis;39;ML;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34154;x
34170;Chief of Army;Augusto da Gama Leiros;43;ML;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;M34155;x
34171;Chief of Army;Mesquito da Costa;45;ML;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34025;x
34172;Chief of Army;Goes Monteiro;43;SC;Guns and Butter Doctrine;High;M34018;x
34173;Chief of Army;Gaspar Dutra;45;SC;Static Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34011;x
34174;Chief of Army;Tomas Sebistao de Mendonca;37;FA;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;M34161;x
34175;Chief of Army;Newton Cavalcanti;43;FA;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;M34047;x
34176;Chief of Navy;Alvaro de Souza;37;PA;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Very Low;M34059;x
34179;Chief of Navy;Moreira Lima;39;SD;Power Projection Doctrine;Low;M34039;x
34180;Chief of Navy;Jorge Martins;37;ML;Base Control Doctrine;Medium;M34029;x
34181;Chief of Navy;Sylvio de Noronha;43;SC;Open Seas Doctrine;High;M34019;x
34182;Chief of Navy;Floriano Peixoto;45;SC;Decisive Naval Battle Doctrine;High;M34182;x
34183;Chief of Navy;Tarcisio Padilha;37;FA;Decisive Naval Battle Doctrine;Medium;M34049;x
34185;Chief of Air Force;Epaminondas dos Santos;43;PA;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;M34040;x
34186;Chief of Air Force;Agliberto Vieira;39;ST;Naval Aviation Doctrine;Very High;M34060;x
34187;Chief of Air Force;Leonel Benevides de Rezende;44;ST;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Very High;M34187;x
34190;Chief of Air Force;Nero Moura;37;ML;Vertical Envelopment Doctrine;Medium;M34030;x
34191;Chief of Air Force;Figueira de Almeida;43;SC;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34020;x
34192;Chief of Air Force;Eduardo Gomés;45;SC;Army Aviation Doctrine;Medium;M34021;x
34193;Chief of Air Force;Mourão Filho;37;FA;Carpet Bombing Doctrine;Very High;M34050;x
34194;Head of State;José Linhares Filho;45;SC;Popular Figurehead;High;M34104;x
34013;Foreign Minister;Raoul Fernandes;33;SC;Great Compromiser;Medium;M34013;x
34023;Foreign Minister;João Amazonas;35;ST;Ideological Crusader;High;M34023;x
34024;Minister of Armament;Luis Carlos Prestes;33;ST;Military Entrepreneur;High;M34051;x
34025;Minister of Security;Miguel Costa;33;ST;Efficient Sociopath;Low;M34026;x
34026;Head of Military Intelligence;Miguel Costa;33;LE;Logistics Specialist;Low;M34026;x
34028;Chief of Army;Miguel Costa;40;ST;Guns and Butter Doctrine;Medium;M34026;x
34195;Head of State;Getulio Vargas;50;SD;Die-hard Reformer;High;M34001;x
34196;Head of Government;Getulio Vargas;50;SD;Smiling Oilman;High;M34001;x
34197;Head of Government;Café Filho;50;SD;Silent Workhorse;High;M34004;x
34198;Foreign Minister;Vicente Raõ;33;SL;Iron Fisted Brute;Medium;M34200;x
34199;Foreign Minister;Manuel A. Venâncio;50;SD;Biased Intellectual;Medium;M34035;x
34200;Minister of Armament;Vicente Raõ;33;SL;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;M34200;x
34201;Minister of Armament;S. Rauliono de Oliviera;50;SD;Resource Industrialist;Medium;M34201;x
34202;Minister of Security;José de Macedo Soares;33;SL;Compassionate Gentleman;Medium;M34202;x
34203;Minister of Security;Horacio Lafér;50;SD;Crime Fighter;Medium;M34203;x
34204;Head of Military Intelligence;Raoul Fernandes;33;SL;Political Specialist;High;M34013;x
34205;Head of Military Intelligence;Horacio Lafér;50;SD;Dismal Enigma;High;M34203;x
34206;Chief of Staff;Amaury Kruel;50;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;L31091;x
34207;Chief of Army;Artur da Costa é Silva;50;SC;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;L31012;x
34208;Chief of Air Force;Ismael Motta Paes;45;SC;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;L31078;x
34209;Head of State;Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira;56;ML;Benevolent Gentleman;Medium;M34209;x
34210;Head of State;Jânio Quadros;61;ML;Popular Figurehead;Medium;M34210;x
34211;Head of Government;João Goulart;56;SD;Ambitious Union Boss;Medium;M34211;x
34212;Head of State;João Goulart;61;SD;Die-hard Reformer;Medium;M34211;x
34213;Head of State;Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco;60;PA;Resigned Generalissimo;Medium;M34213;x
34214;Chief of Staff;Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco;60;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;M34213;x
34215;Head of Government;José Maria Alckmin;60;PA;Political Protege;Medium;M34215;x
34216;Minister of Armament;Pedro L Correia e Castro;45;SC;Laissez Faires Capitalist;Medium;unknown;x
34217;Minister of Security;Carlos Luz;45;SC;Back Stabber;Medium;unknown;x
34218;Minister of Security;Honório Fernandes Monteiro;45;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;unknown;x
34219;Minister of Security;José Francisco Bias Fortes;45;SD;Crime Fighter;Medium;M34219;x
34220;Chief of Staff;Salvador César Obino;44;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;M34220;x
34221;Chief of Staff;Álcio Souto;45;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;unknown;x
34222;Chief of Staff;João do Amorim e Melo;45;SC;School of Manoeuvre;Medium;unknown;x
34223;Chief of Army;Canrobert Pereira da Costa;45;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;M34223;x
34224;Chief of Air Force;Armando Trompowsky de Almeida;45;SC;Air Superiority Doctrine;Medium;M34224;x
34225;Minister of Armament;Horácio Lafer;50;SD;Resource Industrialist;Medium;M34203;x
34226;Minister of Armament;Osvaldo Aranha;50;SD;Administrative Genius;Medium;M34076;x
34227;Minister of Security;Francisco Negrão de Lima;50;SC;Efficient Sociopath;Medium;M34227;x
34228;Minister of Security;Tancredo Neves;50;SD;Silent Lawyer;Medium;M34228;x
34229;Chief of Staff;Pedro Aurélio de Góis Monteiro;50;SC;School of Fire Support;Medium;L31002;x
34230;Chief of Staff;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;School of Mass Combat;Medium;L31089;x
34231;Chief of Staff;Aguinaldo Caiado de Castro;50;SD;School of Fire Support;Medium;unknown;x
34232;Chief of Navy;Renato Almeida Guillobel;50;SC;Indirect Approach Doctrine;Medium;M34232;x
34233;Chief of Army;Newton Estillac Leal;50;SC;Armoured Spearhead Doctrine;Medium;L31090;x
34234;Chief of Army;Ciro do Espírito Santo Cardoso;50;SC;Elastic Defence Doctrine;Medium;L31089;x
34235;Chief of Army;Euclides Zenóbio da Costa;50;SC;Decisive Battle Doctrine;Medium;L31050;x
EDIT: I've just tested setting up Eduardo Gomes as ML with an earlier start date, and Vargas as PA and things work just about perfectly, and I'll write events to handle some situations:
1) if fascist, far right coup attempt in 38 5% chance success
2) if democratic election between Vargas SC and Gomes ML in late 37
3) if LWR and both Gomes as HOS and Prestes as HOG (happens sometimes depending on how you get to LWR) there is a power struggle--Gomes wins 97% of the time
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1. Appears to be only a cosmetic bug, graphics will be fixed in 0.15
2. The Manchurian provinces were left out. Most belong to CHC anyway, but add
command = { type = secedeprovince which = CHC value = 1390 } to CCIP event 2477
3. Sleep CCIP events 2411 2412 2413 2414 in the Cold War scenario file 1945.eug. CCIP events get triggered because Japan is a US ally, and is at war with Communist China after they intervene in the Korean War. In the next release I'll stop this by several measures.
4. CCIP event 2497 triggers the wrong event. It should trigger 2498
All these issues will be fixed in 0.15
Thank you for the bug report
Version 0.15 is coming soon!
New features will be:
1-Korean War end events
2-Arab-Israeli War events chain with victory events for both sides
3-Bug fixes
...and more!
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