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Mr. Capiatlist said:
I can't get it to download, I just get a page that tells me I requested to download it and a bunch of fireworks. :(
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What browser are you using? I tried with Firefox, and it didn't work, then I used Opera, and it did.

Also, look carefully at the page, there might be a countdown, and mine started from 20 seconds with Opera, but it wasn't there with Firefox.
 
Oh, interesting project. One objection for the map: stars and planets aren't distributed evenly. It would be more interesting to have some clusters and then some bigger free spaces.
 
I've taken a gander at the map, superb work Josip!
 
Zanza said:
Oh, interesting project. One objection for the map: stars and planets aren't distributed evenly. It would be more interesting to have some clusters and then some bigger free spaces.
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Yes, but the problem is the map isn't big enough for that.

Maybe, for the side bar and everything... we can use the EUII MDS's sidebars, I doubt they'll mind if we ask.
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Are they different from the standard EU2? They weren't when I played with it.
 
Josip said:
IIRC Mezzo volunteered.
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Yes and i will start now, i also have one more week of break so it should be done, I also have some MDS stuff to do so who knows
 
Mezzo said:
Yes and i will start now, i also have one more week of break so it should be done, I also have some MDS stuff to do so who knows
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'K, great!


@Mr. Capiatlist: Can you post your progress with tag editing? Which did you rename, and where do you plan to put them on the map?


Also, what is the final list of religions/governments? Cultures? What about vassalization? Maybe rename it to protectorates? And royal marriages?
 
Josip said:
'K, great!


@Mr. Capiatlist: Can you post your progress with tag editing? Which did you rename, and where do you plan to put them on the map?
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I've only renamed a few, and they have all been centralized groups (HRE (which I renamed), Federation) I'll get deeper into it... especially now that I have a map.

How many independent systems (one planet nations) do we want, I mean... will any planets be unihabited?
 
Okay, tomorrow is my big C:TU work day (hopefully).

My plan is simple:
Earth will start off with Earth (duhhhhh). Earth has three tags, one to start and then one if it becomes a military empire and another if it joins the HRE.

The closest group to Earth is The Greys, a puppet of the Federation. The Greys will have claims and knowledge of the existance of Earth. The Federation uses the FRA tag, and her satelites use the other French minor tags (The Greys are Orleans).

The United Galactic Republic of Indpendent Systems (UGRIS) (the oxymoronic situation of a united group of independent planets is an inside joke) is the replacement for the HRE (a rose by another name per se) She is made up of a ton of HRE tags ranging from Baden to the Knights to the Prussians. The major states (SPA POR HAB and HUN) have multiple planets, they are surrounded by minor members. There are military orders that exist, PAP LAT LIV and KNI, they exist as puppets of the Republic (I don't know how we'd do this) and they would be along the edge or the Republic).

The core of the galaxy will be made up of the wiser dying races.

Rising nations will be spaced out amongst the planets of the galaxy. These will usually be a nation with three to five planets and a ton of local cores, plenty of events and a good history. My hope is to have one for each race or government type.

There are seven hives, three major ones (these ones get events to begin their attacks across the galaxy) and four minor (these ones are meat for the three to begin with). If one hive annexes the other hives, it will become the grand hive... this is all using Horde tags, STE UZK KAZ etc...

What ever is left is assigned to random planets (probably close to rising nations as meat, and far from old ones so they don't feed a race that is to die). Everything else is colonizable.
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My alternate idea for the hives is such:

Instead of the three main hives, there are only the four minor ones for the purpose of playing. Then, like the Golden Horde in CK, an outer planet (one of the far-off ones on the edge). Is the only hive and it is unplayable until later. It will get an event every year to make sure it doesn't build or get attacked (this will take some work). Then at a pre-determined date, it will be given huge amounts of troops and ships and let loose on the galaxy (it will get cores on planets as it gobbles them up as well as more troops). This means it will have to know part of the galaxy so it can begin, but then it will get maps as it sacks capitals.

Because there are people out there who don't like this kind of stuff, we can make an alternative GC, just don't include the Hive events.

Frankly I prefer this scenario because it will offer a good challenge and be fun, but it is up to the comunity.
 
I like the ideas, Mr. Capitalist, about the sudden hive expansion, I don't think it is a bad idea, such things are already present in standard EU2, like Manchu when it is supposed to become China.
 
with the size modifiers, it might be worth looking at making the/some deep-space areas a little larger, and have them have a longer travel time; so that a "large" interstellar gap only needs one seazone.
 
I Like and favour most of Mr. Capitalist's ideas. Pretty much the only thing I don't like is the whole "old races dying at the core" thing. The way I see it, the area around the galactic core is so heavily and densely packed that it is extremely condicive to small heavily populated planet-states with many shifting alliances and such. The areas outside the core are, i think, better suited for large relatively secluded old dying races, while the core is far more suitable for being our mod's equivalent of vanilla's period Europe. Ideally, I'd like to see lots of advanced, highly populous, one or two province minors in the core.
 
I don't really like the idea about the Federation. I don't really understand A) What it gives to the storyline B) How it will be modelled in-game C) Why the Greys should be a puppet.

Any takers?
 
The Gonzo said:
I don't really like the idea about the Federation. I don't really understand A) What it gives to the storyline B) How it will be modelled in-game C) Why the Greys should be a puppet.

Any takers?
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Or maybe an option to make your own Federation, like the one in Star Trek?
 
Josip said:
Or maybe an option to make your own Federation, like the one in Star Trek?
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Ah, yes. The name "Federation" sounds like a rip-off of Star Trek. Call it the "Union" or something.
 
Ive began editing the province.csv file, ran into a few problems but they got solved so nothing to worry about. right now ive coded the Galactic core, most of the provinces around Earth and some of the provinces with my names like Mezzo and Plastia and the ones surrounding those but by the looks of it it will take a while, ive split the galaxy into sections and that seems the easiest way to accomplish such a task also we need to start talking about resources because all the planets ive done up to date have had nothing in the goods spot
 
Okay, we can re-name the Federation, but we must rember that it is a dictatorship and is the antipode to UGRIS.

Here is my map so far.
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Terra is red, the greys (who are now an ally of the Federation, not a puppet) are circled in Grey.

Thye nations circled in Green, Purple, Dark Orange, and pink are the Federation's vassals, used as a buffer... the blue, pink, light blue and orange are just allies.

Beyond Terra is UGRIS which will always be in conflict (not always a war, but conflict) with the Federation (which is what I'll call it until we get a better name).

I left Terra some near-by planets to expand into.

The planets in the dark orange, purple and orange are sparcely populated. UGRIS, as I mentioned, will be made up of independent states with several major states and military orders. All these nations are allied with one another and will act together.

Expanding on Reveilled's idea for the core, I'll make it much like Germany in EUII, a bunch of independent states with no alliances who just fight amonst themselves until one proves to be the victor...
 
It apears ive found a bug the Oomay province and the Wezn province have the same id so that needs to be changed also is there any one else that can mod the province.csv file because if we want to be done i need some help maybe someone else can take a region and do the planets within it andsend the province fil to me and ill paste them in my file
 
I still don't like this Federation/UGRIS idea, two massive Space Empires right next to Terra doesn't sound like a good idea. We could have two medium/small sized alien races that fufill much the same role.
 
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