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Great to see this return, and a very intriguing note to kick things back off with.

Does make me laugh to see Herbert so cunning, mind. When I wrote a version of Herbert many years ago, he was almost the exact opposite. Always love the variety CK throws up with its characters.
 
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Great to see this return, and a very intriguing note to kick things back off with.

Does make me laugh to see Herbert so cunning, mind. When I wrote a version of Herbert many years ago, he was almost the exact opposite. Always love the variety CK throws up with its characters.

Thanks!

Yeah, player choice can create very different narratives with the same characters. One of the best things about CK.
 
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I shall follow this with great attention. It should be quite interesting.
 
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Preparations (Diary)
“Unfortunately, I am not a great ruler. My family has fallen far since the days of our great ancestor Carolus Magnus. I have little - in gold or in arms. I am uncertain of victory in a war against even the weakest of my fellow vassals, let alone the usurper dynasty of the Capets. I cannot afford to antagonize them, no matter how much I would like to.

My might needs to be expanded. I cannot buy more soldiers with money without being left destitute, so I can’t hire mercenaries. I need a larger army, but I have no money. I will need to be patient, hoping that my subjects pay enough taxes to generate a suitable amount of wealth for my purposes. That means that I cannot afford to waste gold on useless displays like feasts and hunts - I need to save it for my wars and my glory.

As I wait for my money, I can set about preparing for war in other ways. I am not a patient man by nature, but I have ways to occupy my time - no man ever became a master tactician by doing nothing, after all.

Even so, I alone will not be enough to renew my family’s glory. I shall rely on my family members to aid my quest, even if they don’t have the highest opinions of me. They, like me, understand that the dynasty takes precedence over such things as personal feelings or grudges. That is why I have entrusted the governance of my realm to them.

The most warlike of my relatives, Arnoul of Chiny, is who I have entrusted command of my army to. I shall order him to train more commanders for my army - men who will understand strategy and not simply attack their enemies without a plan. Wars are not won by the amount of soldiers who fight in them but by how well those soldiers fight. My relative shall ensure that my men are reliable in a battle, and I shall determine their loyalty.” - The Diary of Herbert of Vermandois






I promised a resurrection after I was done with my V2 AAR. I'm done with my V2 AAR. We're back!
 
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These comments are literal years old, but I'll reply anyway.

I shall follow this with great attention. It should be quite interesting.

I hope that the long hiatus didn't kill your interest. I could understand if it did, though.

as an aspiring aartist mytself i look forward to reading more as our styles seem quiet similar

That's interesting. A long-belated welcome.
 
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It’s…..back? :eek:
 
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How To Make Money (Diary)
“I need to start small. I cannot outright attack the King of France to claim his throne - that would be far too brazen. I must start much smaller - fighting to claim the lands of my fellow counts, and even that will not be easy. My esteemed dynasty has fallen far from its zenith.

I will start with my neighbor, Valois. They have a mightier force to command than I do, but there are ways to equalize that deficit. While the skill of my knights will not be enough to turn the tide, there is something that will easily bring them to heel. Mercenaries. They will not be loyal to me, and they might not fight well, but that won’t matter. All mercenaries are loyal to money - to gold, and there will be more than enough of them to overcome any… shortcomings. As long as they’re paid, they will charge at my enemies like lambs to the slaughter.

Unfortunately, discussion with my brother, Arnoul, revealed a problem with this plan. Mercenaries could make up for our military weakness… if we could afford any. Sadly, our house has fallen to depths that even I had not perceived. We were almost out of money and barely even had enough to pay a knight to serve us, let alone to pay an army. I will need to find ways to earn more gold.

I had a friend in my fellow count,Renaud of Clermont, and I knew that he was likely to send aid of some kind in any wars I fought in. That would prove useful, but I had two worries about his help. First, Renaud befriended me with an ulterior motive, and I still don’t know what that motive was. I cannot rely on his aid if I do not know what he truly desires of me. Secondly, and far more importantly, Count Renaud was my friend - my personal friend. I did not wish to bring our friendship into the political realm - it was private, and I worried about potential consequences should it be brought into the public sphere. Down that path lay only sorrow.

No, my gold couldn’t come from my dear friend, no matter how much I wished otherwise. I would have to find other means of funding. My first thought was asking the King of France, but the very idea of bowing to the Capet usurpers made my blood burn - I would rather die. That was not an option. I could also seek alliances within the realm, but that path would embroil me into the conflicts of the great duchies, and all that would do was remind me of everything that I could not have. No, I would not touch alliances within France until I had achieved a dukedom.

That left only my third option - the Catholic Church. I have never been a pious man, and I know all too well of the priesthood’s sins. My court chaplain’s incompetence has made that much clear. I’m not even certain that my court priest understands the scriptures, but I know all too well what happens when the Church is denied their influence. Even still, a closer relationship with the institution would benefit me, as I could simply ask the Pope for gold. I needed a closer relationship with him if he was to answer such a request, but that was easy to achieve.

All I had to do was sell my daughter to an archbishop that had the Pope’s ear.” - The Diary of Herbert of Vermandois
 
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It’s…..back? :eek:
"That is not dead which eternal lie, and, in strange eons, even death may die"

That is to say, yes it is. Rise of Russia's completion opened up my schedule, and CK3 works on my new machine!
 
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The Beginning of A Friendship (Narrative)
“Herbert walked to the feast. He didn’t like public events, but he had little choice but to attend. King Philippe of France had invited all of his vassals, and not attending would be seen as disrespectful. It would anger his liege, and that was the last thing that Herbert wanted. The Capetian suspected that he was scheming enough as it was - he was a Carolingian, and the usurper thought that he might want to restore his family’s throne. He was right, of course, but Herbert was not a fool. He would never outright rebel against the crown.

Of course, that still left silent rebellions, and Herbert had initially planned to skip the event as a show of defiance. It was his brother, Eudes, who had talked him out of this reckless plan. He had observed that any silent rebellion would still be noticed, and Philippe might use that as an excuse to revoke his title and destroy the last remnant of Carolingian power.
His brother had also noted the upside of attending feasts with his fellow vassals. He had observed that they tended to be social events, and he might well find long term allies for the Carolingian cause. It was this, more than anything else, that convinced the count to go. The Carolingians needed allies if they were ever to regain their rightful crown. Herbert could swallow his pride for his dynasty’s sake.

The feast itself was very mundane. Hare and veal were served first, followed by the pomegranate seeds. Herbert ate slowly, focusing on the various conversations that his fellow vassals were having. While no one spoke a word against the king outright, a few spoke of perceived tyranny and suggested that something be done about it. Herbert paid these impatient souls no mind - participating in a scheme against the king now would require answering to someone else, and Herbert had no desire to swap one overlord for another.

Instead, Herbert focused on speaking with his fellow independent counts - Renaud of Clermont and Ralph of Valois. Ralph proved uninterested in speaking to him, so Herbert focused on discussing politics with Renaud.

“It seems like there is some discontent with our royal majesty,” Herbert said. “I imagine that we will have a revolt on our hands soon enough. Do you think that it will engulf the entire realm?”

“Of course not,” Renaud replied. “The rebels lack support among the wider nobility of France. Would you support someone who threatened to bring the wrath of the crown down upon your head? No, this rebellion will peter out if it ever gets started.”

Herbert mentally filed away that information. Renaud would never support an outright rebellion, but it wasn’t like he was planning on one. The man seemed reasonable enough. “I would support someone who I agreed with. Surely you would do the same? Regardless, I agree - an immediate rebellion will find little support in these halls. I’m more concerned about the Norman scheme to bring England under their rule. That seems like it could be… destabilizing.”

Renaud raised an eyebrow. “If I agreed with a man who was about to commit treason, I would attempt a peaceful resolution first. If the king still proved intransigent, then I would resort to more extreme measures to enforce God’s justice.”

“And what’s your opinion of William’s daring scheme, then?”

“The illegitimate Norman is ambitious, but he has bitten off more than he can chew. I wouldn’t worry about the consequences of his success. He won’t succeed.”

They talked about politics long into the night, and they agreed to keep in touch. Herbert left the feast feeling as though he had an ally in France. Renaud seemed like a reliable man, and his aid could prove vital if anything extreme happened.” - The Strange Friendship of Renaud of Clermont and Herbert of Vermandois


A.N: Trying my hand at a narrative set in medieval France here.

Go and vote in the 2023 Q1 ACAs! This AAR is not eligible, but there have been plenty of good AARs throughout the forums... Also, comments are always appreciated!
 
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I followed your signature here, just I have followed your sigil to several niches. What family does Herbert have at this time? Heir Adelaide marrying a Capet unless matrilineally is probably off the table. Is there a duke in this area or does everyone answer directly to King Louis Philippe (I thought all French kings were named Louis)?

The lack of start dates is a major failing of CK3 vs CK2. CK2 has eleven bookmarks as well as being customable within the range, while CK3 has only two bookmarks.

Thank you for returning and I will follow as faithfully as I toured Russia. (Probably more, since I know far more about CK than Vicky.)
 
I followed your signature here, just I have followed your sigil to several niches. What family does Herbert have at this time? Heir Adelaide marrying a Capet unless matrilineally is probably off the table. Is there a duke in this area or does everyone answer directly to King Louis Philippe (I thought all French kings were named Louis)?

The lack of start dates is a major failing of CK3 vs CK2. CK2 has eleven bookmarks as well as being customable within the range, while CK3 has only two bookmarks.

Thank you for returning and I will follow as faithfully as I toured Russia. (Probably more, since I know far more about CK than Vicky.)

There are a couple of dukes around me, but my immediate neighbors (Clermont and Valois) are counts that answer to the king directly. Herbert's family will be mentioned a bit more in the future - so far, we have a couple of knights, a daughter that I entrusted to the Church, and a marriage with the courtiers of the Count of Clermont.

Nice to have you on board - also, agreed about the lack of start dates. On the other hand, CK3 has its benefits...
 
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I love how the stress system forces role-playing, though I have not played CK3.

Haven't experienced stress yet, but, looking this up on the wiki, it does indeed look interesting and full of storytelling opportunities. I'm sure that it'll become relevant at some point in this AAR.
 
Haven't experienced stress yet, but, looking this up on the wiki, it does indeed look interesting and full of storytelling opportunities. I'm sure that it'll become relevant at some point in this AAR.
My knowledge is through watching YT videos and reading @Revan86. Stress is far worse in CK3 than CK2.
 
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Prelude to War (Short letters)
“‘To Valois,

Usurper and servant of usurpers! Your county is the property of my dynasty by right, and I will be reclaiming it. You may attempt your futile resistance, but no aid is coming from your masters. I will retake my rightful land.

Vermandois’

‘To the most vile Count Herbert of Vermandois,

Tales of your misdeeds and unjust aggression are told from Ireland to Cathay. I will defend the lands that my rightful king - by the decision of the Frankish nobles - has entrusted to me. To do otherwise would be a betrayal. Your armies will break, and God’s will shall be done.

I am no usurper, and I have aided in no usurpations. You have no right granted by the Almighty, and I have no obligations to you. It is you who are attempting a usurpation, and I who am simply defending the rightful order. I am bound to the Kings of France by ties of blood and oaths. I shall not betray them.

The Almighty shall see the justice of my cause and grant me victory, even if my liege is distracted. I shall give you one chance - and only one chance - to surrender.

Count Ralph of Valois’

‘To Valois,

Do you truly believe that you can triumph? I have every advantage in this conflict - I have more money than you, and I have a mighty army. Your resistance is futile. I shall never surrender to the likes of you.

If you must appeal to the Almighty, you may. I highly doubt that he will answer, of course, but, if it comforts you, you may plead for mercy before you are dethroned. The Almighty cares not for the whims of mere mortals. Even if he did, one would think that he would support those who support his Church - his bride on Earth - and I believe that is me.

And you are a servant of usurpers. Hugh Capet was a usurper… of my family, and his descendants still rule over this kingdom for the moment. I cannot attack him, but I can attack you. You’re welcome to share this information, by the way, but no one will ever believe you.

Vermandois’

‘To the arrogant Count Herbert of Vermandois,

Your cynicism merely proves how hopeless your cause is. The Almighty shall aid the side with the most faith in him and the most just cause, which is me. All I must do is wait for my armies to crush yours, and then the world shall see the justness of my cause.

You did not take my offer of mercy, and you shall be crushed by my might upon the battlefield. I do not believe that we have any more to talk about.

Count Ralph of Valois’

‘To Valois,

I prefer to think of it as realism, but the specifics of my faith are irrelevant. Your conclusion is correct - there is nothing more to cover. It is on the battlefield where our fates shall be decided. I wonder if I will see you there… or if you are too much of a coward to fight on the front lines.

Vermandois’

‘To the cynical Count Herbert of Vermandois,

You are a far greater coward than I am. We shall meet on the battlefield, but you shall lose and fail on your mad quest. This is inevitable, regardless of how our initial confrontation ends.

I shall meet you again on the battlefield…

Count Ralph of Valois’”
 
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