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China dominating the Aztecs? That's an unexpected twist. Even so, Elysium has almost grown to the full size of the contiguous United States.
 
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The North Sea Empire under Chinese influence is peculiar though. That’s about as far away from their territory as it is possible to be without moving closer to it again.
 
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Georgios seems to be a good ruler, but how long will peace last? Those Ming look threatening...

How close are Elysium's ties to the HRE? Is there a formal alliance? Is it just an economic agreement? Do we need to worry about affairs in the Old World?
 
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China dominating the Aztecs? That's an unexpected twist. Even so, Elysium has almost grown to the full size of the contiguous United States.
Economically, they're under them. So not a vassal, but a type of semi subject. Independent politicially, but economically subservient I guess we can say.
The North Sea Empire under Chinese influence is peculiar though. That’s about as far away from their territory as it is possible to be without moving closer to it again.
Yeah, well I guess they have resources they need?
Georgios seems to be a good ruler, but how long will peace last? Those Ming look threatening...

How close are Elysium's ties to the HRE? Is there a formal alliance? Is it just an economic agreement? Do we need to worry about affairs in the Old World?
Peace in our time, hopefully for a long time! Elysium is, like Aztecs to China detailed above, independent politically, but economically subservient. This means HRE will be more likely to support us in diplo plays.
Pop increases work so long as basic resources are available and the added pops are producing more than they are using. There is a finite amount of space and usable water. Thanks
Not sure what you mean here, but the immigration is huge in Elysium. Pop growth is right below 1% per year, so pretty good, but the immigration is huge. We will fight to keep open borders.
 
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And he had other plans for peaceful expansion too.
Ah yes, "peaceful" expansion. Georgios is certainly an imperialist.
 
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For the average Elysium citizen I'm sure Georgios is a vast improvement and the golden age of peace and expansion is very much appreciated. Narratively however, he's not a patch on his father is he? ;)
 
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Ah yes, "peaceful" expansion. Georgios is certainly an imperialist.
Very peaceful. Very zen.
For the average Elysium citizen I'm sure Georgios is a vast improvement and the golden age of peace and expansion is very much appreciated. Narratively however, he's not a patch on his father is he? ;)
Just you wait. ;)
 
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Chapter XVII
Pronoia, Elysium

March 11th, 1819


The order was given. Elysium would no longer be confined to North America only.

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King Georgios Galantinus smiled satisfied.

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The American frontier still expanded, but slower now than before. Quickly, the lands were getting filled with immigrants, of which all soon became proper Elysian in culture – if not in religion.

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Over half of Elysium’s more than 19 million inhabitants were Elysian now. Almost half of them were peasants.

He nodded to himself.

So much potential for industrialization. But food were needed too.

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The number of cultures in the country were staggering to say the least, but Elysium was a huge melting pot and all would ultimately become Elysian. What was Elysian was perhaps changing though. Of 19.3 million people, only 2.31 million were Hellenic believers and most of those were living in the east, where Elysium had begun.

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He had been urged by some of his advisors to convert himself and the state to Orthodox Christianity, the religions his forefathers in Basileia Romaion, as a majority of his subjects now were Christians of differing denominations.

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But no. That was not the way of Galantinus. He might not be the zealot of his father and grandfather, but he was faithful to the gods.

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Now, education and expansion – peaceful expansion. That was the Galantinus way. A major enlargement of the education system and the universities were ordered by him only a week ago.

And Africa was ripe for the picking. Malaria was a problem, true. But Elysium had the resources and the time to expand slowly. The first colonies were already established.

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It was a good time to be Elysian.
 
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Well, he's more organized and stable than his dad, but there's something I can't put my finger on about him. I think there's more to him than we've seen thus far.
 
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Well, he's more organized and stable than his dad, but there's something I can't put my finger on about him. I think there's more to him than we've seen thus far.
Hmmm, you think so? :p
 
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It seems Manifest Destiny arrives, even if King Georgios Galantinus says he is a peaceful sort. And what's that about colonizing Africa?

With the issues in this mod regarding colonial expansion, what are the European powers doing to colonize Africa?
 
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It seems Manifest Destiny arrives, even if King Georgios Galantinus says he is a peaceful sort. And what's that about colonizing Africa?

With the issues in this mod regarding colonial expansion, what are the European powers doing to colonize Africa?
They are actually colonizing, if very slowly. But then again we're pretty early for widespread colonization yet. :)
 
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But then again we're pretty early for widespread colonization yet. :)
Is this just how Victoria works compared to OTL colonization?
 
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Despite all this prosperity, Elysium' poor don't seem to be benefiting. Who is gaining the most from all this wealth?

Into Africa we go! Hopefully, this doesn't lead to conflicts with Europe. Georgios wouldn't like that.
 
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Is this just how Victoria works compared to OTL colonization?
Malaria means it goes sloooooow until a certain tech (actually two, one bettering the other).
Despite all this prosperity, Elysium' poor don't seem to be benefiting. Who is gaining the most from all this wealth?

Into Africa we go! Hopefully, this doesn't lead to conflicts with Europe. Georgios wouldn't like that.
It could have been worse, if you look at some of the competition. But a main problem here is I still have a LOT of peasants, who earn very little and live on substinance farms.
 
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I'm sure if you were in one of the Tribes of North America it has all been quite interesting (and murderously violent), but that aside Georgios remains a bit dull. Exciting things may well be coming soon, but they certainly haven't arrived yet.

I do admire the bloody mindness of the 14 Nguni people, they could have joined either of the two much larger existing Bantu groups. But instead they are insisting on being counted separately.
 
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I'm sure if you were in one of the Tribes of North America it has all been quite interesting (and murderously violent), but that aside Georgios remains a bit dull. Exciting things may well be coming soon, but they certainly haven't arrived yet.

I do admire the bloody mindness of the 14 Nguni people, they could have joined either of the two much larger existing Bantu groups. But instead they are insisting on being counted separately.
Oh, you are so eager for action my dear Pip. ;) Why not relax and wait for the real deal to come in due time. :p
 
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