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Jarkko Suvinen said:
All, just noticed that I have save from 23rd of February. Ie we lost just about two months. You can download the save from here.


Well, all who stil remain the vassal of this mad king now can see what awaits them. The King is (acording to his own words) an evil excommunicated bastard who will assasinate anyone he pleases. Luckily for me I am a King, and Kings are hard to assasinate. But you dukes of Flanders, Upper Lorraine and Brabant, you will be in problems with your "King". If you need protection, please do contact me, or my ally the German King; protection will be arranged.

Btw, now that assasinations were mentioned, four well placed accidents will put my son first in line for the crown of France...

Oh also, that's quite unfair of you to simply become disloyal after I married my daughter to you, there's something evil about that.
 
Talking about loyalty, I would like to encourage some players to become vassals of Germany. I could do with the one or other human vassal, and as you will have discovered by now I am much less reckless than the French King who is behaving like a Madman. Especially for the smaller French Duchies a change in alliegeance could be quite profitable, as my demsne is too big at the moment.

As for UL, I agree to you returning the 3 Eastern provs and Bremen under German rule. I am willing to relinquish claims on your remaining German provinces if your King agrees to drop claims on those formerly french provinces which have been ever since under the rule of the house of Burgundy. I would ask for a "no backstabbing" guarantee as well, but with his reputation the French King is anyway going to ignore any agreement of that kind. Which leaves me considering the notion of a preemtive strike.... After all I hold a very legit claim on the throne of France as well....



Kaiser Flo
 
Flosan said:
Talking about loyalty, I would like to encourage some players to become vassals of Germany. I could do with the one or other human vassal, and as you will have discovered by now I am much less reckless than the French King who is behaving like a Madman. Especially for the smaller French Duchies a change in alliegeance could be quite profitable, as my demsne is too big at the moment.

As for UL, I agree to you returning the 3 Eastern provs and Bremen under German rule. I am willing to relinquish claims on your remaining German provinces if your King agrees to drop claims on those formerly french provinces which have been ever since under the rule of the house of Burgundy. I would ask for a "no backstabbing" guarantee as well, but with his reputation the French King is anyway going to ignore any agreement of that kind. Which leaves me considering the notion of a preemtive strike.... After all I hold a very legit claim on the throne of France as well....



Kaiser Flo

Well, very soon I will have a huge demense ready to be given away, currently I have 6 provs over the limit, and, after the English war, I may be up to 10 provs over the limit, but I can't give them away until England is defeated. Therefore, those who stay with me will be constantly rewarded with the lands of disloyal vassals.

Also, I am not a madman, I haven't declared war on anyone except the original King of France, EVER! I have only taken territory that is rightfully mine from those who have attacked me!
 
Aldo said:
You will still only be the King of Cyprus
But my son could be the King of France too :)

Besides, better being king of Cyprus than being ruled by a madman. Besides, I am also Duke of Brittany which means I am also effectively the King of Brittany :p

Upper Lorraine will be in rough position soon, unless the Duke corrects his imbecille ways. Being the vassal of the madman of France, taking illegally provinces from Germany *and* ridiculing the King of Brittany does not forebode a good future for the Duke of Upper Lorraine.

Sterkarm said:
Also, I am not a madman, I haven't declared war on anyone except the original King of France, EVER!
So England and her vassals are not counted??? ;) So, the King of France is not only a Kinslaing Excommunicated Bastard, but he is also a Liar.

Germany OTOH is the defender of Christendom, the last and first defence line against the Horde. The German King also has too much land at his hands, eagerly waiting for loyal vassals to claim them. Brittany and Cyprus have a loooong history of protecting their vassals, even if the vassal in question would have gone totally Crazy.

Now what was the reason again why Brabant, Flanders and Upper Lorraine still are the vassals of the Madman?
 
The Madman gives ducal titles and nice provinces if you just kick some rebel ass every now and then... :rolleyes:
 
Byakhiam said:
The Madman gives ducal titles and nice provinces if you just kick some rebel ass every now and then... :rolleyes:
Consdering what Germany could be able to give atm, I wouldn't even blink...
 
Jarkko Suvinen said:
Consdering what Germany could be able to give atm, I wouldn't even blink...

Well, first one can leech France from all those juicy duchy titles and rich provinces and then when France no longer has them, one can move into Germany and repeat. :cool:
 
Byakhiam said:
Well, first one can leech France from all those juicy duchy titles and rich provinces and then when France no longer has them, one can move into Germany and repeat. :cool:

This is why being King sucks... vassals are always disloyal, no matter how much you give them. From now on, only UL and Brabant are getting territory.
 
Jarkko Suvinen said:
But my son could be the King of France too :)

Thanks to the nice MP 'feature' (of alphabetically listing titles) the King of Cyprus (aka Norrtälje) will always be knowned as ... the King of Cyprus (aka Norrtälje) even if it holds all the King titles in Europe (with the first letter after C in the alphabet).

Get rid of that disgraceful title! :)
 
Aldo said:
That is the same one you hosted, yes?

No, the one he hosted was the auto save from two months before that one.
 
Sterkarm said:
No, the one he hosted was the auto save from two months before that one.

I was also confused. I DLed it, but when unpacking I already had it. (And I promise I never played as Cypres before. :p ).
 
Err... Ok, so it *is* the same as the previous host. The autosave is from January same year, that save is from February 23, and we went to April before I CTD'd.


When I am the King of Jerusalem I will give the title of Cyprus to the Duke of Upper Lorraine. He seems to have some sort of odd fixation for that title. In the meantime, join the *only* Crusader King! Let us bring the fight to the Horde! Let us fight the Moslems! All Christians: Follow me!
 
Jarkko Suvinen said:
When I am the King of Jerusalem I will give the title of Cyprus to the Duke of Upper Lorraine. He seems to have some sort of odd fixation for that title.
Since the Lorraine family are not and will not be vassals of the King of Cyprus (aka Norrtälje) we will be safe from such a horrible act.


Note: I find this to be a weakness of CK. Any sane person would regard a Duke of Brittany to be higher in rank that the King of Cyprus (aka Norrtälje).
 
Aldo said:
Note: I find this to be a weakness of CK. Any sane person would regard a Duke of Brittany to be higher in rank that the King of Cyprus (aka Norrtälje).
And some of us think people who have a fixation with Cyprus (especially if they think Cyprus is in Norrtälje Sweden) to *definitively not* be sane...
 
Damocles said:
Yo.

Just how fun is Crusader Kings in Multiplayer? :D

Great fun between all the crashes. :p

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Guys, I'm sorry about the whole not being around to play deal. :D

It's been a bit hectic what with preparations for my trip to the US. I will likely not be around next week either.
 
Slargos said:
Great fun between all the crashes. :p
For some reason my hosting seems a bit more stable than when Slargos does host... We had three ctd's on Wednesday during the about 4 hours, and the first one happened after 2.5 hours of playing. So it is much better than EU2 MP 13 months ago :)

It's been a bit hectic what with preparations for my trip to the US. I will likely not be around next week either.
Well, Byakhiam did a good job subbing you. If he is interested to stay as a perm now that Slargos is preoccupied with the preparations for his american tour, I am sure he will do a good job with Flanders.
 
Well, I think I can futher the fortunes of Flandern next wednesday too. If I can't, I'll let you know. Although I have miserable luck in RNG with children and their educations and characters in general, I think Flanders will manage even if ruled by a madman. :wacko: