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Here is what Greenland looks like in EU5 now:
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I've gone ahead and highlighted the provinces currently present in-game, featuring the 3 medieval Nordic settlements of Greenland: The Western, Middle, and Eastern Settlements. This is a good start, but there were other habitable locations, notably the Norðrsetur (meaning North Place) hunting grounds in modern-day Disko Bay and the surrounding areas, which were critical to Nordic Greenland's economy.

Here is a map showcasing Norðrsetur - as well as Óbygðir (meaning uninhabited), aka the lesser-used eastern hunting grounds (due to bad currents and worse ice) - as well as lots of other cool map data points like runes and Inuit artifacts, which should give you an idea of the extent of Norse exploration.
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It should be noted that by EU5's start date, the Inuit were still in the process of colonizing Greenland themselves. Around this time, the Inuit had firmly settled themselves in Norðrsetur and had traded with the Norse for many years. In 1337, they were in the process of migrating southwards towards the now-abandoned Western Settlement, likely motivated by the dropping temperatures of the Little Ice Age, which was the cause of the Middle and Western Settlement's abandonment, and would be the cause of the abandonment of the Eastern Settlement as well come ~1450.

A few centuries later in the 1700s, the Danish-Norwegian crown began funding the re-exploration of Greenland. They started setting up several trading posts across Greenland, beginning with Godthåb (Nuuk) in 1728. All in all, over a dozen towns were established in western Greenland during the 1700s. This should give you an idea of which territories should realistically be colonizable during EU5's timeframe. Here is a map:
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Notice the very large presence of settlement in the Disko Bay (Norðrsetur) area. Even centuries later, these hunting grounds remain extremely rich and profitable for whalers and ivory prospectors.

So, with both the medieval and colonial situations considered, here is my conception of all the provinces which should realistically be colonizable in Greenland in EU5.
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In white, I've added 7 new provinces, I've expanded the size of the Middle Settlement zone to include the Paamiut area, and I've also done a small adjustment of the borders of the Eastern Settlement just to make it prettier and follow the geography of the fjords a little better.

And if you want to get really detailed, using the Russian and Canadian Arctic for example:
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It seems the devs have been very generous with the amount of locations in the Arctic, even including many places that wouldn't be settled by Europeans until the late 19th and early 20th centuries, such as most of Chukotka and parts of Baffin Island. And that's awesome - we love more locations and more opportunity for alternative history. With that it mind, I don't think it would be entirely unreasonable to include a few such locations in eastern Greenland:
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...but now that's a LOT of new provinces. Too many, perhaps. So, to consolidate things, I've come up with this suggestion as my final map:
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I removed 4 of the less-populated provinces on the west coast, and I've also gotten rid of the far eastern province. I decided to keep the central eastern province (coincidentally the Óbygðir hunting grounds from medieval times), as while Europeans wouldn't settle this place until 1894, Inuits from southern Greenland actually settled here during the 1700s, so that redeemed it as a realistic province during the game's timeframe in my eyes.

The northernmost province will require adding a couple additional sea tiles in Baffin Bay, but hopefully this is not too hard to add. Aside from that, I really hope the devs also use events to model the southward migration of the Inuit and the contact between them and the Norse.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. :) Devs, what do you think?
 
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Yes I agree and someone too made a suggestion for more Greenland locations and it is really nice.



Meanwhile I am glad my early suggestions for Baffin was included in the game, I am very glad the devs did it so I hope they add your and @Maxipuchi Greenland suggestions.

Some of my newer Baffin Island suggestions:
Locations
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White name - settled irl
Blue name - previous settlements that got abandoned or seasonal settlements that didn't become full settlements
White "locations" - land corridors
Note - I made a mistake and made Clyde River more north than it is, fixed it in my newest suggestion

Wasteland tiles suggestion:
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So when "colour Wasteland" is enabled that one can create more pleasing map as in:

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But still I am glad how the game looks
 
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You should add this to the Tinto Maps Extra for the north atlantic. As @JohnCro mentioned I have made a very detailed suggestion for how to expand Greenland's map already, but if the devs see more players are interested in it they're more likely to implement some of our suggestions. :)
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Player interest in Greenland is quite high, so they really should. Especially when it fits with their design philosophy of the arctic in Siberia and Canada. At minimum the locations in Disko bay should be added.
 
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Player interest in Greenland is quite high, so they really should. Especially when it fits with their design philosophy of the arctic in Siberia and Canada. At minimum the locations in Disko bay should be added.
I also hope there will be more land provinces and corridors on mainland Nunavut too (like Igloolik), considering the other northenly areas having corridors and locations.
 
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Wow, @Maxipuchi, your Greenland suggestion is 1000x better than mine; it's so beautiful, it looks professionally done! My map seemed cluttered, so I felt inclined to reduce the locations, but with yours, having more locations just looks right. It's also very reassuring seeing that we basically added provinces/locations is the exact same places. The research is sound!

Anyways, thanks, I'll be sure to repost this to the Tinto Maps Extra for the North Atlantic.

@JohnCro, a few days ago, watching TheStudent's YT Greenland gameplay video, I thought I must've been the only person to get super excited about, or even realize at all, that the devs had added 6 new locations to Baffin Island. Thank you for helping to make that possible! I love your suggestions, and I agree that the North American Arctic region in general should be expanded with a few additional locations on par with the Siberian Arctic. I would especially like to see the north coast of Alaska given some locations, connected through corridors to the south and to the Mackenzie Delta. I also would like a few more locations in southern Nunavut, with a corridor going from Kugluktuk over to Bathurst Inlet, one corridor from there going south to the Great Slave Lake and one going east to Baker Lake, and corridors from there stretching north to Naujaat and Kugaaruk, and south towards the western Hudson Bay coast.
 
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Wow, @Maxipuchi, your Greenland suggestion is 1000x better than mine; it's so beautiful, it looks professionally done! My map seemed cluttered, so I felt inclined to reduce the locations, but with yours, having more locations just looks right. It's also very reassuring seeing that we basically added provinces/locations is the exact same places. The research is sound!

Anyways, thanks, I'll be sure to repost this to the Tinto Maps Extra for the North Atlantic.

@JohnCro, a few days ago, watching TheStudent's YT Greenland gameplay video, I thought I must've been the only person to get super excited about, or even realize at all, that the devs had added 6 new locations to Baffin Island. Thank you for helping to make that possible! I love your suggestions, and I agree that the North American Arctic region in general should be expanded with a few additional locations on par with the Siberian Arctic. I would especially like to see the north coast of Alaska given some locations, connected through corridors to the south and to the Mackenzie Delta. I also would like a few more locations in southern Nunavut, particularly along the western Hudson Bay, with corridors up to Baker Lake, Naujaat, and Kugaaruk, and maybe even another corridor going from Kugluktuk over to Bathurst Inlet.
Yes I really hope they consider both of your suggestions for Greenland because they just make sense for Danish era settlement, not just mediaeval ones. And I must say I was surprised to see Baffin Island locations too and I am so glad I did the suggestion now because it is no longer just some large unclaimable area as it has been before.

I Agree that Nunavut southern area on coast of Hudson Bay should have locations and nothern ones too perhaps connected with corridors and also with lakes as you suggest. That is a great idea and I really love it. Same with Alaska.

Also I would agrue maybe some locations to northen Quebec, the Ungava peninsula, above already existing locations. I feel like the whole peninsula could use a location on each "corner" it has (well first check the map where settlements are but there are some). Maybe connected by corridors via coast or as standalone locations and interor would be Ungava impassable tile.
I had this in mind but when I was making Baffin suggestions I just decided to focus on Baffin Island itself so I sidelined it.
 
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I broadly agree, and I'm glad to see this interest in Greenland! Right now mainly because I've asked a couple of times whether the North Atlantic extra will get a map-review at all, and not gotten an answer. It's just an "extra", after all, so maybe they'll decide (god forbid!) that it's not worth the effort to make the post...
 
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Also I would agrue maybe some locations to northen Quebec, the Ungava peninsula, above already existing locations. I feel like the whole peninsula could use a location on each "corner" it has. Maybe connected by corridors via coast or as standalone locations and interor would be Ungava impassable tile.
I had this in mind but when I was making Baffin suggestions I just decided to focus on Baffin Island itself so I sidelined it.
Yes, totally agree. I kind of forgot about the Ungava area, but looking at the map now, especially with the addition of locations in Baffin Island, a few extra locations like Ivujivik (near Cape Wolstenholme and Digges Islands, sites of a 17th century battle and a trading expedition) Puvirnituq (site of a mass death and open-air grave of local Inuit, implying early contact with Europeans), and Kangiqsujauq (close to the Dorset-era Qajartalik archeological site, which was later used as an Inuit quarry) would be a great addition and help the map feel more filled in.
 
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I broadly agree, and I'm glad to see this interest in Greenland! Right now mainly because I've asked a couple of times whether the North Atlantic extra will get a map-review at all, and not gotten an answer. It's just an "extra", after all, so maybe they'll decide (god forbid!) that it's not worth the effort...
Probably gonna be shoved in with the Scandinavia review. Honestly seems as though they haven't done anything to either Greenland or Iceland yet given the feedback on both had needed expansions into what is currently wasteland, and these changes do not appear in any of the videos surfaced from content creators.
 
Player interest in Greenland is quite high, so they really should
I think this is more justification to make Greenland playable without try-harding, so even casual players will be able to get to Newfoundland and form Vinland. More artic locations aren't really useful unless you have a powerbase elsewhere to support them, in my opinion.
 
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The number of land tiles in Greenland is indeed too small. I have a mod plan to create a Greenland beneath the ice, but I don't know what name to give it.
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Where did you get this from
Condensed overview of all opinions shared in this thread:
Updated: 25/04/25 at 22:00 GMT


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  • This distribution is based on a weighted scale with people listing their #1 receiving ten points and their #10 receiving one point with all the other ones in between (#2 = nine points, #3 = eight points, etc).
  • All Tags under ten points are not shown.
  • Answers with a slash (ex: Venice/Genoa) had only the first one chosen, as it is assumed that you would play them for the same reason and I don’t want to clutter this already cluttered graph.
  • Scope answers (ex: an irish minor) were dealt with in a variety of ways. Some I gave their own answers (Ireland, Japan, Netherlands, HRE Minor, Mayans, etc), others were left out because they were too broad (a place TFs will make me love), others I replaced with tags that existed because the tag they said does not exist in 1337 but will emerge later (Ming, but not Qing -> Yuan), and others were tied into a specific tag (Nepal -> Garhwal, Daimyo -> Japan).
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If you want any specific point tallies, look at the link in the post two below.
 
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you should go to the TT where they did show greenland and link this post there so the devs can see it because they prefer that feedbacks be on the TT itself so they can easily see it .
 
Wow, @Maxipuchi, your Greenland suggestion is 1000x better than mine; it's so beautiful, it looks professionally done! My map seemed cluttered, so I felt inclined to reduce the locations, but with yours, having more locations just looks right. It's also very reassuring seeing that we basically added provinces/locations is the exact same places. The research is sound!

Anyways, thanks, I'll be sure to repost this to the Tinto Maps Extra for the North Atlantic.

@JohnCro, a few days ago, watching TheStudent's YT Greenland gameplay video, I thought I must've been the only person to get super excited about, or even realize at all, that the devs had added 6 new locations to Baffin Island. Thank you for helping to make that possible! I love your suggestions, and I agree that the North American Arctic region in general should be expanded with a few additional locations on par with the Siberian Arctic. I would especially like to see the north coast of Alaska given some locations, connected through corridors to the south and to the Mackenzie Delta. I also would like a few more locations in southern Nunavut, with a corridor going from Kugluktuk over to Bathurst Inlet, one corridor from there going south to the Great Slave Lake and one going east to Baker Lake, and corridors from there stretching north to Naujaat and Kugaaruk, and south towards the western Hudson Bay coast.
Thank you so much! I put a lot of time and work into it so it means a lot you've liked it. I've also been working on a multi-part proposal for Oceania if you're interested in that region. Here is part 1, it has links to parts 2 and 3. Part 4 is mostly complete, I haven't finished it yet though because my life kinda started falling apart at the start of the year, I should be able to get back to it soon I think.

I was also really happy to see locations and player suggestions for Baffin Island, I had planned to make a proposal for it after my Oceania proposal was finished but it's taking a lot longer than I anticipated o_O
 
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Thank you so much! I put a lot of time and work into it so it means a lot you've liked it. I've also been working on a multi-part proposal for Oceania if you're interested in that region. Here is part 1, it has links to parts 2 and 3. Part 4 is mostly complete, I haven't finished it yet though because my life kinda started falling apart at the start of the year, I should be able to get back to it soon I think.

I was also really happy to see locations and player suggestions for Baffin Island, I had planned to make a proposal for it after my Oceania proposal was finished but it's taking a lot longer than I anticipated o_O
Thank you for showing love to both Australia and Greenland. They both scratch that "tall game" itch for me
 
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