This is great for me. Before it I can only modify the saved game to achieve this.
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Several changes that seem to make Bankruptcy more punishing, but I don’t see much in the way of changes to help the AI avoid serial bankruptcies.
I am not a dev, but based on my decade of experience it's OK to continue with changes that PDX label as a "hotfix", where the third version number changes (in this case, 1.8.3 to 1.8.4). Nobody can absolutely promise though and there might be some strange effects especially in the first few weeks as the economy adjusts. I would particularly suggest you search (
Ctrl+F) for "Journal Entry" to see whether any of your current Journal Entries have changed, because those are the only things in these patchnotes that seem potentially problematic.Personally, I would be very happy continuing a game from 1.8.3 as I long as I had the existing save file (i.e. not an autosave) to go back to if it didn't work out.
For the record, it's a very bad idea to try to continue saves between major versions (e.g. 1.7 to 1.8). The game will typically crash anyway.
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They should've kept the heritage restrictions, just make generic pop types that they assimilate into, like afro-x, asian-x.
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They do, sort of. Don't they make new capitalists at the company HQ?
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I think they mean that your gov owned buildings in other countries wont collectivize but I am not sure. Someone pls tell me if I am wrong
The problem with that is it means hundreds if not thousands of extra POPs across the world and the more POPs you have the worse performance gets. That change would really significantly degrade performance. I don't mind that much as a speed 1-3 player, but it's clear from the forums and Reddit that there are plenty of speed 5 players who were already frustrated with late-game performance in 1.7.
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It's not technically 100% guaranteed to be bug-free, but most of the time you're safe playing an old save after a hotfix. It's usually only major updates that break saves.
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Congo Free State in 1.8.3: “if you don’t make more rubber I’m going to chop your hand off”
Congo Free State in 1.8.4: “If you don’t start putting mayo on your French fries I’m going to chop your hand off”
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I would understand and even welcome possibility of slight assimilation process if using an assimilation decree on a homeland but to allow it everywhere by default? It's too much, it didn't really happen on such scale during this period.
And to allow assimilation between heritage groups is completely unnecessary and immersion breaking.
And to allow assimilation between heritage groups is completely unnecessary and immersion breaking.
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I really don't understand the change in assimilation mechanics, it doesn't make sense for the culture of the XIX century, where being of a different religion or not having the majority "look" was seen as sufficient to discriminate people. And while conversion to another religion should of course lower somewhat the discrimination from the religious majority, I think that a change in ethnicity shouldn't be possible.
I understand this mechanic for very small pops immigrated somewhere outside of their homeland, but that Indians living in India becoming English by the thousands every month is something immersion breaking.
I understand this mechanic for very small pops immigrated somewhere outside of their homeland, but that Indians living in India becoming English by the thousands every month is something immersion breaking.
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To this, wich I celebrate:
There should be a different assimilation category for Ex-Colonies (USA, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Mexico) where depending on law, non european heritage can be assimilated, like natives, aficans and asians.
But in countries identified with a Native local population, like Germany, Japan, UK, Finland, China, India, Greece, Arabia, etc people that no share cultural heritage could never or very, very, very slowly get assimilated.
Like: Colonial / ex Colonial Nation: assimilation +30%
Old World Nation: Assimilation (for not sharing cultural heritage) -40%
That will also incentivate players to have more subjects than just grab pieces of land and also form colonies and Colonial administrations, as historically happened.
- Removed restriction that you can only assimilate to cultures with which you share a cultural heritage trait
There should be a different assimilation category for Ex-Colonies (USA, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Mexico) where depending on law, non european heritage can be assimilated, like natives, aficans and asians.
But in countries identified with a Native local population, like Germany, Japan, UK, Finland, China, India, Greece, Arabia, etc people that no share cultural heritage could never or very, very, very slowly get assimilated.
Like: Colonial / ex Colonial Nation: assimilation +30%
Old World Nation: Assimilation (for not sharing cultural heritage) -40%
That will also incentivate players to have more subjects than just grab pieces of land and also form colonies and Colonial administrations, as historically happened.
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At this point.. I think they should just split heritage from the culture. As Devs are right. Same as Dave Chapel showed us in "Only American black white supremacist" sketch. It doesn't matter which race you are to be Dixie
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Wouldn't have been better to simply assimilate pops in your own homeland states (like Indians becoming English in Great Britain, not in Bangladesh)?
Seems to me that the game is getting fuzzier as the months go by, and the most important issues remain unanswered...
Seems to me that the game is getting fuzzier as the months go by, and the most important issues remain unanswered...
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I just did a fast test run, and from 1836 to 1840 states like Carnatic, East and West Bengal, Northern Circars and North and South Sumatra ended up having over 10% of European population due to assimilation... in my opinion, the numbers are just unrealistic, even for a game.
By 2846, roughly a fourth of the pops (24-26%) assimilated into English/Dutch. In 1850, 30% or so assimilated into Europeans (27-31%).
By 1855, the average is 37-40% assimilated to Europeans.
In 1860, the average is from 39-44%.
In 1865, while in some states the assimilation seemed to slow a bit, in most of Indian coastal states and in the Bengal area, the English are now around 50% or slightly over 50%.
While I agree that some degree of assimilation should happen even in the homeland states (like in case of people of mixed heritage that want to "move up" in the colonial administration), having half India identifying as solely English in the latter half of the XIX century in my opinion feels like the change of the assimilation rules weren't tested at all, otherwise, at the moment the game just feels broken and in an urgent need of another hotfix.
By 2846, roughly a fourth of the pops (24-26%) assimilated into English/Dutch. In 1850, 30% or so assimilated into Europeans (27-31%).
By 1855, the average is 37-40% assimilated to Europeans.
In 1860, the average is from 39-44%.
In 1865, while in some states the assimilation seemed to slow a bit, in most of Indian coastal states and in the Bengal area, the English are now around 50% or slightly over 50%.
While I agree that some degree of assimilation should happen even in the homeland states (like in case of people of mixed heritage that want to "move up" in the colonial administration), having half India identifying as solely English in the latter half of the XIX century in my opinion feels like the change of the assimilation rules weren't tested at all, otherwise, at the moment the game just feels broken and in an urgent need of another hotfix.
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+1 on the comments on assimilation changes. At the very least there should be some strong reductions in assimilation speed. From what people have been posting about 1.8.4, you’ve got millions of Indians turning English within the first decade in the game.
The changes also seems to just massively undermine a lot of the fun stuff in this patch, like national movements. Austria in particular will be even more of a static blob on the map if they can just turn all its minorities south German.
The changes also seems to just massively undermine a lot of the fun stuff in this patch, like national movements. Austria in particular will be even more of a static blob on the map if they can just turn all its minorities south German.
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You are right. Another hindrance on the secessionist movements...well, I can't say I'm a fan of this.
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Why the company HQ have to employ capitalist even in a command/cooperative economic country? I can't create utopia anymore!
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Yeah, this is still the era of the English discriminating against "Papists" in general and the Irish more specifically.
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