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Are you sure that's wise? You might have peaked with Churchill on a war elephant (and I use the word 'peaked' under advisement), the rest will just be Italy beating everyone as the AI does stupid things, a topic this work has already covered in quite some detail.
 
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Are you sure that's wise? You might have peaked with Churchill on a war elephant (and I use the word 'peaked' under advisement), the rest will just be Italy beating everyone as the AI does stupid things, a topic this work has already covered in quite some detail.
Yes I think I'm going to have to lean more into others reacting to the madness rather than Italy 'fighting' wars. Funnily enough, the game does no time seem to be built to anticipate Italy doing much or achieving any success, so when I do, it all goes a bit weird. Such as all my puppets and vassals begging me to annex them because I've built their infrastructure up so high, or the Americans genuinely quite liking me for my decolonisation regime.

I'm not sure for how much longer this story will run for before I just skip to the end slides and show what we got at the end. We need at least two more updates before then however, because as you say, Churchill is back.

And he has a cunning plan...
 
That is just damn golden. Perfection.
 
That is just damn golden. Perfection.
Well, thank you so much.
Hopefully Rome rolls nines to Germany's zeros
I thought this next bit, where the game tries to have the normal world war 2, would be a bit chaotic and mad. It turned out to be in some parts quite boring, in some parts very interesting, and a brief moment of shock before a hilarious race.

At the very least, I think we shall be covering the western allies defence of Denmark and Norway, the German invasions of both, and...Well, I'm not sure how to describe the german Soviet ear other than a farce of some kind.

I also have a postwar endgame plan, but I'm not sure if it will come about yet. Having created the roman empire however, I'm going to try to decolonialise the world as far as possible. Exceptions being if Churchill manages imperial federation, and maybe the Dutch Indonesia Thing that is 'technically' an indepdannt nation but clearly being ruled by the exiles from de nederlands with an iron fist.
 
Oh goodie. Churchill will be a perfect foil to our continental cast of crazies. Not because he’ll bring any sanity to the table or anything, of course – just because Chamberlain is such a non-entity he doesnt have the mildest chance of foiling anything.
 
Oh goodie. Churchill will be a perfect foil to our continental cast of crazies. Not because he’ll bring any sanity to the table or anything, of course – just because Chamberlain is such a non-entity he doesnt have the mildest chance of foiling anything.
He's been pretty sane so far. Immedialty started improving relations with Italy, asked for military access so they can spy on Germany, and judging from the next few months, planned a campaign against Germany that actually worked for the most part.

Not bad for an AI or for Churchill, really.
 
He's been pretty sane so far. Immedialty started improving relations with Italy, asked for military access so they can spy on Germany, and judging from the next few months, planned a campaign against Germany that actually worked for the most part.

Not bad for an AI or for Churchill, really.
Wow, that’s… strikingly competent
 
Wow, that’s… strikingly competent
It's balanced out by everyone else being nuts and the British overall not behaving optimally but stuff that he conceivably had some control over (the war, the politics) is going well enough for the UK.
 
Incidentally, anyone know who Martin Brown is? He's heading the UK war economy, industry and intelligence services.

Actually, this reminds me I need to check the cabinet appointments for Rome, Germany and UK for Pip to laugh at...
 
I googled 'Martin Brown HOI4' and it came up with… Martin Bormann.

I'm guessing it's not Bormann in disguise
This just raises further questions...
 
Chapter 11: Super Churchill, and what I did during my Exam interlude
Chapter 10: Super Churchill, and what I did during my Exam interlude

“Important news, Mighty Cheesare! Russia just annexed Eastern Poland. As promised. This isn’t really news. I just…never mind, I’ll just go.”

Augustus Cheeseolini and his Imperial Court watched mystified as the dejected young messenger burst into tears and ran out of the room.

“So, anyway. You were telling me all about your jet engines, Mr Campini?”

Er…yes, my Emperor. I can definitely build something you will think is one before the year is out!”

“Most impressive. Alan, doesn’t that sound impressive?”

“In all sorts of ways, Mighty Cheesare. And how much will this cost, Mr Campini?”

“About 74 days of your court’s attention. Same as everything else.”

The Great Leader nodded wisely. That sounded cheap enough. Not that Rome had much want for anything, given how it now possessed a mighty empire and enough gold to sit, bath and swim in.

“Make it so, Mr Campini. I want future Italian airmen breaking the sound barrier when they crash, understand?”

“Mostly, my liege. I will go now, and never come up again in this story.”

The Court watched him leave like a professional, and then continued with their table tennis tournament until someone else came in to update the map table they were playing on.

…​

20th February 1940

Good morning everyone, and welcome to SIM Secret Report of ‘WTF Russia is doing this week?’ Last week, we reported rumblings of threats, movements and imminent invasion from Russia to Finland. This week, as you all know, Stalin went through with his threats and invaded the country.

For some reason, it is now three days later and tens of thousands of Russians are dead.

We are not quite sure what is going on, with how chaotic the border is right now, but it seems the Russian army has decided to storm the entire gigantic border shared between them and Finland, in the worst bit of frost the country has had in a long while. The Finns have used every trick in the book, and written a few of their own, in fighting back. They have done a remarkable job of utilising Russian stupidity and the weather to great effect. The result? 100 Finns have died and 14,567 Russians were taken with them. Stalin is no closer to stepping foot on Finnish soil, or rather he tried and slipped on the ice.

We suspect the Russians will, eventually, figure out that they only need to wait a bit and then drive up the southern roads to the capital to win, but long before that, a ceasefire will be declared. Russia is already drawing one up as we speak.

The impact of this war cannot be overstated. Finland is likely now to join any war against Russia on Hitler’s side, and will probably hold out quite well as they do so. Hitler himself is only going to be emboldened by this, and will no doubt jump half-cocked into yet another war he has no chance of winning.

For our part, Russia has lost enough men that the troops on our own borders have been substantially reduced. If we were, hypothetically speaking, bribed into joining Germany for a land romp through Asia, we may get quite far before even seeing a Russian soldier.

To round out the week, a report on the Anglo-German War, and the Asian War of Madness. The latter has seen some progress by Japan, who have managed to link up their beachheads and seize most of the Chinese coastline in the east. The casualties on both sides have been spectacular, and trenches have yet again ensued on both sides. So, whilst the map looks dramatically different, the actual situation remains unchanged. China (4 million casualties) is running out of men, whilst Japan (1 million) is running out of everything else.

As for the European war, Poland has retreated to London, having lost 300k men. The Germans have lost a tenth of that taking the country, whilst the British have already lost 13k men doing…something. We aren’t quite sure what. But probably sea-related.

Incidentally, Neville Chamberlain seems to have disappeared, and His Grace, the Duke of London, Sir Winston Churchill has taken power. He’s also sent us an offer and a request for military access, which the Emperor has tentatively granted. We aren’t quite sure what he’s doing yet either, but it promises to be spectacular, I’m sure…

Thus ends the weekly report. Thank you.

…​

18th April 1940

Two titans met for the first time since all this madness began.

“Winston.”

“Augustus.”

The two leaders inclined their heads at each other, and sat before a gigantic map in the London Map Room. It was much like the Imperial Map Room, only three centuries older, darker, and with a curiously elephant-shaped whole in the wall.

“So, we meet at last,” the British PM said, puffing at his cigar. “I must say, from the off, that I have been a vocal and passionate advocate against your wars of expansion. I see your bastardised roman empire as the gravest threat to civilisation this world has ever seen.”

“That’s ok,” Cheeseolini replied. “I’ve been ignoring the British Empire up to this point. Boats scare me, and we’re dreadful at sailing. Even worse than flying. But now the Empire is complete, except for British holdings in and around the Mediterranean, it seems we have no choice but to ‘talk’.”

Churchill grimaced as he looked down at the map in front of both of them. The world had changed so much in the past few years, and very little in the favour of his country. Oh, the economy was booming and every Dominion, and the rest bar India, were angling for closer ties to protect them from fascism. But Europe was once more united under a single banner, and that was never good news for his island.

There was only one saving grace.

“My nation is grateful for your support of military access and supply,” the PM said. “But I would like to know more about Italy’s plans for the future. Hitler seems poised to declare war on the few peoples he has not already done so. You must see that he is a threat to you, as well as everyone else.”

The Great Leader shrugged. “From what SIM tells me, it seems likely that the idiot is going after Stalin first. We may or may not be joining him on that escaped but,” he said sharply, cutting Churchill off, “we have no interest nor future in being friends with the Nazi party. Every member of the Axis has claims on our land, claims they loudly declare to have and hold. No, we may yet march into Russia to destroy communism once and for all, but we will no doubt be fighting the Germans soon afterwards.”

Churchill sat back and considered for a moment. This went well with his own plans for the war effort. If what the Italian said was true, Germany and Italy would fight and win against Russia, destroying the communist threat. Both would be weakened by the experience, and liable to fight each other as soon as the war was won.

“It seems likely then, that in a few years, providing all goes well, that Germany and Russia will both be defeated. What then would Italy seek in a post-war age?”

The Roman Emperor tapped his nose. “We want all our claims to be recognised, our empire to be recognised, our people to be recognised etc. We have no need for more land, aside from yours should you ever want to give it up…otherwise, we would want some recognition of our spheres of influence as well. I have no doubt we shall be freeing many enslaved nations from the communists and Nazi empire. They will be safe with us, I assure you.”

“Consider me assured,” Churchill grated. That wasn’t too bad, considering what the Romans could try to do. Still, it seemed this empire would not be falling apart like the other two headaches in Europe. More’s the pity. “Poland of course will be freed and remain within the Allies, and a democracy.”

“Of course,” Cheeseolini said, eyes flashing. “Denmark and Norway too, should anything happen to them. But of course, the British would never allow their allies to fall.”

Churchill actually smiled for the first time in weeks. “Certainly not without cause. Certainly not.”

…​

It was thus an unsurprised Imperial Court that heard not 24 hours later that the Germans had invaded Denmark.

It was however, a very surprised Imperial Court that was still receiving reports that Copenhagen still held out a week later.

Augustus Cheeseolini was beginning to think he may have underestimated Mr Churchill.
 
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Chapter 10: Super Churchill, and what I did during my Exam interlude

“Important news, Mighty Cheesare! Russia just annexed Eastern Poland. As promised. This isn’t really news. I just…never mind, I’ll just go.”

Augustus Cheeseolini and his Imperial Court watched mystified as the dejected young messenger burst into tears and ran out of the room.

“So, anyway. You were telling me all about your jet engines, Mr Campini?”

Er…yes, my Emperor. I can definitely build something you will think is one before the year is out!”

“Most impressive. Alan, doesn’t that sound impressive?”

“In all sorts of ways, Mighty Cheesare. And how much will this cost, Mr Campini?”

“About 74 days of your court’s attention. Same as everything else.”

The Great Leader nodded wisely. That sounded cheap enough. Not that Rome had much want for anything, given how it now possessed a mighty empire and enough gold to sit, bath and swim in.

“Make it so, Mr Campini. I want future Italian airmen breaking the sound barrier when they crash, understand?”

“Mostly, my liege. I will go now, and never come up again in this story.”

The Court watched him leave like a professional, and then continued with their table tennis tournament until someone else came in to update the map table they were playing on.

…​

20th February 1940

Good morning everyone, and welcome to SIM Secret Report of ‘WTF Russia is doing this week?’ Last week, we reported rumblings of threats, movements and imminent invasion from Russia to Finland. This week, as you all know, Stalin went through with his threats and invaded the country.

For some reason, it is now three days later and tens of thousands of Russians are dead.

We are not quite sure what is going on, with how chaotic the border is right now, but it seems the Russian army has decided to storm the entire gigantic border shared between them and Finland, in the worst bit of frost the country has had in a long while. The Finns have used every trick in the book, and written a few of their own, in fighting back. They have done a remarkable job of utilising Russian stupidity and the weather to great effect. The result? 100 Finns have died and 14,567 Russians were taken with them. Stalin is no closer to stepping foot on Finnish soil, or rather he tried and slipped on the ice.

We suspect the Russians will, eventually, figure out that they only need to wait a bit and then drive up the southern roads to the capital to win, but long before that, a ceasefire will be declared. Russia is already drawing one up as we speak.

The impact of this war cannot be overstated. Finland is likely now to join any war against Russia on Hitler’s side, and will probably hold out quite well as they do so. Hitler himself is only going to be emboldened by this, and will no doubt jump half-cocked into yet another war he has no chance of winning.

For our part, Russia has lost enough men that the troops on our own borders have been substantially reduced. If we were, hypothetically speaking, bribed into joining Germany for a land romp through Asia, we may get quite far before even seeing a Russian soldier.

To round out the week, a report on the Anglo-German War, and the Asian War of Madness. The latter has seen some progress by Japan, who have managed to link up their beachheads and seize most of the Chinese coastline in the east. The casualties on both sides have been spectacular, and trenches have yet again ensued on both sides. So, whilst the map looks dramatically different, the actual situation remains unchanged. China (4 million casualties) is running out of men, whilst Japan (1 million) is running out of everything else.

As for the European war, Poland has retreated to London, having lost 300k men. The Germans have lost a tenth of that taking the country, whilst the British have already lost 13k men doing…something. We aren’t quite sure what. But probably sea-related.

Incidentally, Neville Chamberlain seems to have disappeared, and His Grace, the Duke of London, Sir Winston Churchill has taken power. He’s also sent us an offer and a request for military access, which the Emperor has tentatively granted. We aren’t quite sure what he’s doing yet either, but it promises to be spectacular, I’m sure…

Thus ends the weekly report. Thank you.

…​

18th April 1940

Two titans met for the first time since all this madness began.

“Winston.”

“Augustus.”

The two leaders inclined their heads at each other, and sat before a gigantic map in the London Map Room. It was much like the Imperial Map Room, only three centuries older, darker, and with a curiously elephant-shaped whole in the wall.

“So, we meet at last,” the British PM said, puffing at his cigar. “I must say, from the off, that I have been a vocal and passionate advocate against your wars of expansion. I see your bastardised roman empire as the gravest threat to civilisation this world has ever seen.”

“That’s ok,” Cheeseolini replied. “I’ve been ignoring the British Empire up to this point. Boats scare me, and we’re dreadful at sailing. Even worse than flying. But now the Empire is complete, except for British holdings in and around the Mediterranean, it seems we have no choice but to ‘talk’.”

Churchill grimaced as he looked down at the map in front of both of them. The world had changed so much in the past few years, and very little in the favour of his country. Oh, the economy was booming and every Dominion, and the rest bar India, were angling for closer ties to protect them from fascism. But Europe was once more united under a single banner, and that was never good news for his island.

There was only one saving grace.

“My nation is grateful for your support of military access and supply,” the PM said. “But I would like to know more about Italy’s plans for the future. Hitler seems poised to declare war on the few peoples he has not already done so. You must see that he is a threat to you, as well as everyone else.”

The Great Leader shrugged. “From what SIM tells me, it seems likely that the idiot is going after Stalin first. We may or may not be joining him on that escaped but,” he said sharply, cutting Churchill off, “we have no interest nor future in being friends with the Nazi party. Every member of the Axis has claims on our land, claims they loudly declare to have and hold. No, we may yet march into Russia to destroy communism once and for all, but we will no doubt be fighting the Germans soon afterwards.”

Churchill sat back and considered for a moment. This went well with his own plans for the war effort. If what the Italian said was true, Germany and Italy would fight and win against Russia, destroying the communist threat. Both would be weakened by the experience, and liable to fight each other as soon as the war was won.

“It seems likely then, that in a few years, providing all goes well, that Germany and Russia will both be defeated. What then would Italy seek in a post-war age?”

The Roman Emperor tapped his nose. “We want all our claims to be recognised, our empire to be recognised, our people to be recognised etc. We have no need for more land, aside from yours should you ever want to give it up…otherwise, we would want some recognition of our spheres of influence as well. I have no doubt we shall be freeing many enslaved nations from the communists and Nazi empire. They will be safe with us, I assure you.”

“Consider me assured,” Churchill grated. That wasn’t too bad, considering what the Romans could try to do. Still, it seemed this empire would not be falling apart like the other two headaches in Europe. More’s the pity. “Poland of course will be freed and remain within the Allies, and a democracy.”

“Of course,” Cheeseolini said, eyes flashing. “Denmark and Norway too, should anything happen to them. But of course, the British would never allow their allies to fall.”

Churchill actually smiled for the first time in weeks. “Certainly not without cause. Certainly not.”

…​

It was thus an unsurprised Imperial Court that heard not 24 hours later that the Germans had invaded Denmark.

It was however, a very surprised Imperial Court that was still receiving reports that Copenhagen still held out a week later.

Augustus Cheeseolini was beginning to think he may have underestimated Mr Churchill.
The world's wars seem to be winding down, only for two large conflicts to be on the horizon. Germany vs. Russia & Rome vs. Germany.
 
I can’t read this without picturing Churchill as the Doctor Who Churchill when time goes funny and he becomes Roman Emperor. I suppose seeing as he’s in a room with the actual Roman Emperor this is not accurate, but still… I think it’s the elephants wot do it for me

Anyway, fun times ahead. Clash of the titans and all that

“So, anyway. You were telling me all about your jet engines, Mr Campini?”

Er…yes, my Emperor. I can definitely build something you will think is one before the year is out!”
Sounds like the Italian “jet engine” is going to come out of the same lab as the British “H bomb”
 
The world's wars seem to be winding down, only for two large conflicts to be on the horizon. Germany vs. Russia & Rome vs. Germany.
Well remember Germany has a,ready started World War Two, it's just they can't invade Western Europe because we own it. Denmark and Norway are in the firing line, Poland is gone, and the allies are very much at war with the axis. It's just that the Roman Empire separates most of the fighting sides up from each other. This is mostly a naval war at the moment.

Let's be honest, the real big land war will be against Russia, just because the invasion is huge in scale and scope. If Germany does survive and needs to be dealt with, we have them surrounded now. After moths or years of fighting Stalin, and the British, I don't think Hitler's will withstand a huge invasion from all sides...
I can’t read this without picturing Churchill as the Doctor Who Churchill when time goes funny and he becomes Roman Emperor. I suppose seeing as he’s in a room with the actual Roman Emperor this is not accurate, but still… I think it’s the elephants wot do it for me
He's certainly one of the more competent people in this flick, and only does insane things whilst drunk. This puts him in the precarious position of being locked in an insane asslym run by the inmates... he seems to be doing alright do far.

Im impressed I've managed to get another reference to that episode, and in the same sub forum too.
Anyway, fun times ahead. Clash of the titans and all that
The British have their best case scenario, a purely naval war with Germany. The Russians and Germans meanwhile, are going to fight each other head on. And we in Rome are trying to avoid as much of the fight as possible, and switch sides constantly.

Mostly business as usual, but with some odd stuff thrown in.
Sounds like the Italian “jet engine” is going to come out of the same lab as the British “H bomb”
Paradox are at least realistic enough that developing a jet engine and building a production model jet plane are different things. Whilst we do have jet engines in a few months time, we are nowhere near developing the planes to use them. To be fair to us, nobody else is either.
 
I googled 'Martin Brown HOI4' and it came up with… Martin Bormann.

I'm guessing it's not Bormann in disguise
I've never come across a Martin Brown in any role in the 30s/40s and as you say Google is deeply unhelpful. The name is either a terrible typo or just made up. Or given this is Paradox it could well be Bormann in disguise, it is the sort of thing HOI4 would do.

“So, anyway. You were telling me all about your jet engines, Mr Campini?”
"Yes they are the perfect invention for you. Just like your new "Empire" my engines make promises they cannot keep, are inaccurately named and fundamentally are a dead end that is a massive waste of time and resources."
“Make it so, Mr Campini. I want future Italian airmen breaking the sound barrier when they crash, understand?”

“Mostly, my liege. I will go now, and never come up again in this story.”
Campini fled knowing that his resulting abomination, when it finally emerged, would in fact be slower than the current aircraft in Italian service and even in a vertical dive would be incapable of getting anywhere near the sound barrier. It was in all ways properly Italian.
 
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I've never come across a Martin Brown in any role in the 30s/40s and as you say Google is deeply unhelpful. The name is either a terrible typo or just made up. Or given this is Paradox it could well be Bormann in disguise, it is the sort of thing HOI4 would do.
Hmm. This bears some investigation. I may have to do a full sweep of every current nation's cabinet. Unlike past HOI games, you appoint people with PP and only when you have enough (it's usually better to switch economic and recruitment laws first). So everyone's cabinets should be smaller...and theoretically more accurate. However, given that this is paradox, the possible appointments for each office are probably very wrong, and the bonuses offered (thus indicating exactly where the individual works in the government) is probably even worse.

Martin Brown has since disappeared, never to be seen again.
"Yes they are the perfect invention for you. Just like your new "Empire" my engines make promises they cannot keep, are inaccurately named and fundamentally are a dead end that is a massive waste of time and resources."
Campini fled knowing that his resulting abomination, when it finally emerged, would in fact be slower than the current aircraft in Italian service and even in a vertical dive would be incapable of getting anywhere near the sound barrier. It was in all ways properly Italian.
I was a little surprised that a) the Italian jet program has an option to succeed and b) that it was led by him.

I want the trees for facism to look good, promise much, create short term boosts in things but in a year or so, blow up in your face and give you massive penalties in something.

Likewise the democracy one's can be long term, uncertain, awful and unpopular short term but pay off big time if you play well.

It would be a bit more interesting, and a bit more historically accurate. As it is, facism not only gets all its historical powers and 'advantages' but also all the fictional ones it made up for itself. This, especially played straight and unanalysed by paradox, is problematic, in various ways.

Anyway, let's see who's running the show in various nations. That's sure to be enlightening.
 
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