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Originally posted by Johan Elisson
Well, historical accuracy would matter if you told me to give Mexico City to Germany, but moving the border a little to far north or south... What the heck, does it matter? In that case, I think gameplay is more worth. But, as said earlier, if someone knows how to remove the connection between Kolding and Odense, I'll change it right away.

/Johan
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Historically there was a referendum in Northern and Southern Slesvig and in Holstein to join Denmark in 1920, with only North Slesvig saying yes. IIRC South Slesvig was a closerun thing and Holstein was a big loss.
As a sidenote our king was offended and thought referendums were rubbish as he didnt want to be dictated by mobrule.:rolleyes:

The border was as far as I can see just south of Kolding, but with the entire province named Kolding in the hands of the Germans (This would be North and South Slesvig).

http://home5.inet.tele.dk/gla/1864/dk.jpg

Of course if gameplay dictate the matters then thats that.

BTW Denmark had quite a bit af fortification going on on Sjælland to enforce their neutrality during the war. Ok maybe not that much in contrast to other greater powers, but it was a drain on the Danish treasury.
 
I've spotted an inaccurate border on the current map.

The province of Kars (1263) is shown as belonging to the Ottoman Empire. In 1914 this province was owned by Russia - it became part of an independent Armenia in 1917-8 and was then conquered by Turkey.
 
I've also noticed to slight errors. As far as I know, before 1914, a fair amount of Libyan territory was attached to Egypt, and that Britain gave Italy this territory after the war as a reward for Italy's contribution to the war effort.

The territory in question are the Saharan provinces of Al Irk and Al Jaghbub, which have infrastructure ratings of nil. So these should belong to Britain, not Italy.
 
Wow exel, you dont know much as far as geography goes do you?

IF anything Afghanistan should be a BRitish puppet, but it's best to leave them independent.
 
Torun (Thorn in german) was a part of the West-Prussia province in 1914
 
Originally posted by demendoza
Torun (Thorn in german) was a part of the West-Prussia province in 1914
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I don't doubt your judgement, but it would look geographically incorrect on the map if the territory was passed over to Germany, so it'll stay as it is. :)
 
Venezia

This is more a problem with HOI than with TGW, anyway with TGW it becomes more relevant. As I already suggested to Paradox, the province of Venezia should be divided in two: Venezia and Fiume (the Istrian peninsula). This, in general, for strategical reasons (Istria was a weak point for Italy in WWII), but overall in TGW Istria sould represent an important port of Austria (Trieste and Fiume).
 
Hurin, sadly we cannot do anything to the map. That is outside the scope of this mod, but IIRC I suggested that Austria be compensated with IC/resources in nearby provinces to represent the lose of Istria (Trieste and Fiume). Beyond that there is nothing we can do.
 
Shadow Knight said:
Hurin, sadly we cannot do anything to the map. That is outside the scope of this mod, but IIRC I suggested that Austria be compensated with IC/resources in nearby provinces to represent the lose of Istria (Trieste and Fiume). Beyond that there is nothing we can do.
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May be you can expose the problem to Paradox?
 
Hurin said:
May be you can expose the problem to Paradox?
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Provincial matters are hardcoded as far as I know, so even if we did, they'd be able to do bugger all about it.
 
Metz should go to Germany, Kolding should go to Germany, Memel should go to Russia. Thats the way it should be. Who cares if Germany can attack Luxembourg from three fronts? Luxembourg cant defend themselves from one front so what does it matter? It would be best to keep the map as historical as possible. :D

Edit: Spelling mistake
 
Luxembourg is not the issue.

Belgium is. Germany could not attack Belgium from the south, and unless we can remove the Metz to Arlon route, it stays French.

Memel is Germany's as it is strategically significant:

1) It is a Baltic port.

2) It is a German enclave north of the river Niemen.

3) It forms a northern wedge into Russian Lithuania.

4) The city of Memel was German.

Therefore, Memel is German, as per your request to keep the map historical.

Kolding is German in 1.03. This was done after we realised that Lubeck gives a direct route to Copenhagen, so worrying about getting to Odense was irrelevant.
 
There's been some talk about renaming provinces, with Leningrad and Stalingrad being the most glaring examples of the problem. Unfortunately, as we know, the map is hard-coded. We can edit provinces.csv, but that would lead to problems with the map not agreeing with the pop-up boxes and information screens, which would be very confusing to people unfamiliar with the old place names.

However, what do people think of this as a solution?

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If this seems like a good idea, then we need to agree on what place names to change. I've come up with this as an initial list:

RUSSIA
722 Brest-Litovsk (Brzesc nad Bugiem)
788 Petrograd (Leningrad)
770 Yelisavetgrad (Kirovograd)
845 Tver (Kalinin)
863 Mariupol (Stalino)
865 Yekaterinoslav (Dnepropetrovsk)
1224 Salsk (Proletarsk)
1225 Tsaritsyn (Stalingrad)
1237 Vyatka (Kirov)
1245 Kuznetsk (Stalinsk)
1431 Pishpek (Frunze)
1436 Dushanbe (Stalinabad)

GERMANY
606 Posen (Poznan)
647 Bromberg (Bydgoszcz)

AUSTRA-HUNGARY
563 Trent (Bolzano)
618 Pressburg (Bratislava)
725 Lemberg (Lwow)

Plus a couple of really useful changes: :)

FRANCE
554 Verdun (Metz)

BULGARIA
872 Dedeagach (Thessaloniki)

I'm sure that there are more - lots of obscure Siberian provinces named after obscure Communist politicians, for example. Also, some of these changes might be politically controversial, since names like "Pressburg" and "Bromberg" were the names the foreign overlords used for their conquered territories. So I'm open to comments and suggestions from people more knowledgeable in these areas.
 
Great idea!

Here's some suggestions of my own:

TURKEY
873 Constantinople (Istanbul)
878 Smyrna (Izmir)
1213 Angora (Ankara)

RUSSIA
706 Helsingfors (Helsinki)
822 Alexandrovsk (Murmansk)
1258 Tiflis (Tblisi)
712 Libau (Liepaja)
 
Oslo should be Kristiania if I am correct.
 
Doesn't really matter if the names were constructed by foreign overlords - the fact is, under the rule of Austria Hungary, Lvov was Lemberg and Bratislava was Pressburg.

I fully support using the authentic names of the era.

I've made the changes to the province.csv file.

And one more-

AUSTRIA HUNGARY:
569: Pola (Rijeka), and I've added a port.
 
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NORWAY
664: Christiania (Oslo)

FRANCE
544: Belfort (Dijon)
543: Epinal (Nancy)

GERMANY
542 : Mülhausen (Colmar)

BELGIUM
557: Liege (Arlon)

MONTENEGRO
753 : Cetinje (Podgorica)

RUSSIA
638: Cracow (Krakow)
707: Revel (Tallinn)
763: Kishinev (Chisinau)
719: Rovno (Rowne)
 
Ptan, shouldn´t revel be Reval, or is it simply a typo?
 
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