Hopefully King Richard will be Lion-Hearted. To secure Ireland from England and Hopefully someday reclaim the lost homelands.
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Was there a strategic reason for this stance and how will the outcome play out for you?I move to a Conciliatory stance.
Quite a helpful guide if I ever take up EU4. I wonder if you have played more aggressively than you might as a showcase to help folks out of such situations?Thanks for making the effort, @Chac1! I noticed your reactions in my notifications feed as you worked your way through. Hope you enjoyed it. And comment away if you have any questions or comments about past updates. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Given the importance of EU in the company's history, I can understand why. I do hope they are successful.I've been reading the Tinto dev diaries as they come out. From what Paradox has shown, it looks to be the most ambitious thing they've made. Whether it will all function on release is anyone's guess. I'm hopeful, though.
One of these days I will venture into CK3 but I want more DLC to drop first. Parts of the game that I can't get but are open in CK2 keep me in the CK2 camp for now. Plus I see mods and AARs with Asian maps for CK3. Wondering when or if that geographic expansion will happen. For those who like mega-campaigns, Asia is perfect for the CK3-EU conversion. (Of course, I also want a separate Americas game from the CK or Imperator eras but that is another topic.)Going off @Rensslaer's answer, the Vic 2 and CK2 subforums are still active. Same, to a lesser degree, with HOI3. I think that's because the newer titles all have departed radically in some way from the previous game (Vic 3's war system, CK3 getting rid of most of the crazy events, and HOI4's focus trees). EU4 did that as well with its introduction of the three mana types, something that wasn't in EU3.
Good to hear.EU5, from what's been shown, looks to be building on the decades worth of feedback from the community (no mana, adding pops, better colonization/diplomatic systems). It's hard to judge without playing it, but Paradox seems to be listening and open to community feedback.
Indeed.There's also the modding scene. There are lots of popular EU4 mods that won't be available on the new game's release. So EU4 will still have the edge, initially, in that regard. Just as CK2 currently has features CK3 lacks, such as merchant republics.
It's not our losses, but England's. Spain won the war, so we couldn't lose land (even with Ireland occupied). Not unless we accepted England's offers of separate peace (which we eventually did, but that was a white peace. An earlier offer which I mentioned in the update had them demand Leinster and some money). Here's my screenshot of the peace to help visualize:Would love to see a map of Ireland to understand the situation there post-war. Didn't completely understand what happened there without a map to help guide, but it does seem your losses became independent areas, from what I made out.
That caused me a lot of lost saves, but I tend to stick to the bitter end, until well after all reasonable hope is lost. In this specific case, it would've helped me.And here’s a slap in the face. Spain ends their war 2 months later. England loses 3 provinces in South America and 2 in Ireland through released nations.
Would it be realistic in this case to diploannex them?Our diplomats get to work improving relations with Tyrone and Sligo. We ally both too. I use some of our limited manpower to recruit 5k infantry at home.
So you're decreasing your absolutism thus you can increase it in the next age and get a bonus from the absolutism gained in that time period? I feel I'm misunderstanding something here.I also start preparing for the next Age by revoking a Privilege from the Bourgeoisie, increasing our eventual Absolutism cap.
Why doesn't it feel like so? I mean, among the things that bring points, which are England's strong suits?Now we’re in 5th, well ahead of our recent foe.
That’s a neat trick and while at first appearing a little gamey, on reflection it actually makes sense realistically.I hold the Call-to-Arms for now, then spend 130 gold on the Free Company (7k inf) in Ireland. Our fleet of 25 light ships move to the Irish Sea, ready to block the strait between Ulster and Ayrshire. I could’ve even waited another month (the CtA will be auto-declined after 2 months), but I enter the war on the 2nd of April.
Ouch! One side of the face slapped. Sometimes the clever ploys don’t work out. Risk and reward.Battle 1 is when the English first crossed. Battle 7 is when our last army was destroyed. I hired a third merc stack for battle 4 which was killed instantly. Discounting the stackwipes, we actually did decent damage to the English, it just wasn't enough.
Which map mode do you screenshot to show these recent acquisitions?
And now the other cheek! Turned and slapped for good measure. A nasty setback, but not existential. And it has left England badly weakened with some opportunities for the future,And here’s a slap in the face. Spain ends their war 2 months later.
Will King Richard be the one who recovers the mainland, or is Brittany doomed to remain forever in Ireland?
Richard won't be the reclaimer, but his reign is probably the most important one out of this whole game. Comparing now to when he dies, we're in two vastly different spots.Hopefully King Richard will be Lion-Hearted. To secure Ireland from England and Hopefully someday reclaim the lost homelands.
Having such a disparate group of colonies means it's tricky and slow to deal with revolts, of which there are many because of our war exhaustion. We can deal with it, but it's a persistent issue for the next while.Thanks for this update. Not the victory you hoped Spain would bring but at least you are out of that grinding war and you can work on repairing the damage. Your world standing didn't suffer although your nation does seem to be quite far flung at this point.
There are different bonuses to being either Conciliatory or Harsh, which you can find here. But I wanted the Improve Relations and heretic opinion bonuses to help with Tyrone and Sligo.Was there a strategic reason for this stance and how will the outcome play out for you?
I'm trying not t needlessly antagonize our neighbors. Sure, England hates us and we hate them. But I don't want to give them an excuse to attack us.As you made this decision while at war with the British, couldn't you have taken the opposite view given their break from Catholicism? Or are you still threading the needle due to your poor relations with the pope?
A little bit. In some earlier comment feedback I mentioned how we could've allied France in Chapter One, but I thought that would be too easy.Quite a helpful guide if I ever take up EU4. I wonder if you have played more aggressively than you might as a showcase to help folks out of such situations?
Partially, but I also knew that the war would drag on forever with mainland England unoccupied. We needed to get more warscore to end things in a timely manner.I realize with Breton you must be aggressive or you will be steamrolled. However, given your decision in the war with the English to let them cross into Ireland, I'm guessing that is a gamble you wouldn't normally make. Or were you just impatient with how the war was costing you?
That's a good philosophy to have. The only game I've ever preordered was HOI4. I had fun with it at launch, and I still do now after all the patches. But I don't think it was worth buying early.However, I remain wary given the results of the Star Trek rollout last fall and how Imperator also seemed to fall flat. I have gone back to the philosophy of being very conservative when it comes to committing to new games.
We need to be able to match England/France with numbers and economy. We don't have either right now. That requires more land and development.Thanks for helping me visualize what happened here. So England still has two provinces in Ireland. That will make them a likely competitor in the future, no doubt. What will you do to ready yourself for more war with them and France too in the future? (Hopefully, not simultaneously.)
I think sticking through things is more fun. In moments of frustration and hopelessness, I save and quit to pick things up another day. That also gives time to strategize.That caused me a lot of lost saves, but I tend to stick to the bitter end, until well after all reasonable hope is lost. In this specific case, it would've helped me.
Spot on! That's the plan.Would it be realistic in this case to diploannex them?
Most estate privileges decrease the max absolutism you can have. The next age, Age of Absolutism, is when the mechanic unlocks. So, it can be a good idea to start revoking some of the less necessary privileges early to prepare and get more cap.So you're decreasing your absolutism thus you can increase it in the next age and get a bonus from the absolutism gained in that time period? I feel I'm misunderstanding something here.
We're even with England in terms of men. But half of our forces were overseas doing other things. England of course has a much stronger navy. Lot's of our development is also tied up in colonies and subjects. Henrika, d'Elbene, etc. can't reasonably get to Europe to help on that front. They can fight England's other colonies in the Americas.Why doesn't it feel like so? I mean, among the things that bring points, which are England's strong suits?
Thanks!@jak7139 quite a testament to your gameplay and strategic knowledge that you've come out the worst for wear in two major wars and STILL increased from 6th to 5th Great Power status!
An England war is coming. But not for a while yet. As you say, we have to do it on our terms. But that doesn't mean the English don't suffer defeats elsewhere against other nations.Very interested to see how you manage the Irish situation in the coming decades. I do expect there will be a rematch with England, but more likely on YOUR terms this time. Then surely King Richard will desire to return to the homelands. Will it have to wait for his son?
Holding events and pop-ups is kind of gamey, though they do autodecline. But because the game allows you to do it, I think it's just part of the strategy. There are sometimes I do it, like here. Other times, not.That’s a neat trick and while at first appearing a little gamey, on reflection it actually makes sense realistically.
That's the Diplomatic mapmode. Everything in green is your nation (or whichever nation you have selected). Light green stripes are uncored land. Light blue stripes are uncored land that's currently being cored. I find it very helpful to know what exactly was taken during a war (since usually whatever's taken won't already be a core).Which map mode do you screenshot to show these recent acquisitions?
Indeed.A nasty setback, but not existential. And it has left England badly weakened with some opportunities for the future,
Very good. I’m going to use it for my AAR when I can.That's the Diplomatic mapmode. Everything in green is your nation (or whichever nation you have selected). Light green stripes are uncored land. Light blue stripes are uncored land that's currently being cored. I find it very helpful to know what exactly was taken during a war (since usually whatever's taken won't already be a core).
Sounds the wise option. Especially after the AI kept throwing curve balls at you soon after!Vassalizing Ireland, while slower, is safer. And with everything that’s happened to Brittany these past decades, I think safe, guaranteed bets are needed for us to succeed.
In EU:Rome and now EU4, I always try to maintain 3 stab at all times - very rarely stay below it for long. In the limited games I’ve played, anyway.A consequence of the negative Stability and our high War Exhaustion, a plethora of revolts are hitting on our nation everywhere.
That’s the spirit. Death before dishonour!No. There will be no peace. Not until it’s forced upon our enemies.
That’s a hard row to hoe. You need something debilitating to happen to them.The 3 numbers left to right: France's number of armies, ships, and manpower. A scary behemoth!
Go flight! Damn the consequences.We’re in the midst of 2 wars, hemorrhaging money, and out of manpower. Nevertheless, we fight on.
You can always make Felix a general.......
You actually can't make rulers or heirs admirals. I think Paradox was trying to patch just that kind of strat. Felipe can lead our land troops if we want though.Make Felipe a general and leave him in the ocean (the famous strat from CK) if you decide to keep the de Dreux dynasty.
They shouldn't have pounced on Tyrone like that. We weren't going to let them off so easily.Great work teaching the Scottish populace that it's better to not join either the Scottish army or Scottish navy.![]()
It does indeed. The Scots should soon bow out.Nice to force stackwipes - a faster end to the war approaches!
I was feeling very annoyed at the game at this point. Brittany just couldn't seem to catch a break. We've been served one war, setback, or rebellion after another.Your annoyance and frustration are showing here but who wouldn't feel that way? But certainly, that doesn't mean you were due a cruel ruler.
I do have a plan. You'll see parts of it unfold over the next few updates.Feeling for you here, as it appears there is no easy route up this hill. However, it appears you have a plan. Looking forward to how you will end some of these wars in the next chapter. Good luck playing on.
Indeed. Having Tyrone and Sligo as vassals isn't bad. I just would've preferred to own them directly. But we don't have that luxury right now.Sounds the wise option. Especially after the AI kept throwing curve balls at you soon after!
Having at least +1 is good. But we've been too busy spending our admin points on conquests, ideas, and tech. Having negative stab is never a good thing in the best of times. With our war exhaustion, it's even worse.In EU:Rome and now EU4, I always try to maintain 3 stab at all times - very rarely stay below it for long. In the limited games I’ve played, anyway.
It's either that, or we grow much larger than them somehow. We'll see how that goes over the coming decades.That’s a hard row to hoe. You need something debilitating to happen to them.
If we don't fight, who will?Go flight! Damn the consequences.![]()
Wouldn't he be at sea if the army he was commanding was left in the middle of the ocean?You actually can't make rulers or heirs admirals. I think Paradox was trying to patch just that kind of strat. Felipe can lead our land troops if we want though.
Wouldn't he be at sea if the army he was commanding was left in the middle of the ocean?
Wouldn't he be at sea if the army he was commanding was left in the middle of the ocean?
This is something I actually haven't thought of before. I might have to test this, but don't have time right now.What happens if you send your heir to sea on a transport in command of a regiment and the ship gets lost at sea due to attrition??
Author's Note: Another long, detailed chapter right here. Perhaps I could've split it into two parts. But then, I don't think either shorter update would've been "worth the wait" with the once-per-week schedule I'm posting at. With the rate-of-posting in mind, do you all generally prefer longer updates such as this one, or would you want shorter episodes?
Some of our forces, battered and weary, barely arrive in Bengkulu in time. If we were 1 month later, we would’ve lost the province fully to rebels. Phew!
Yay, House de Dreux shall survive.And good things don’t last apparently. Or maybe you were rooting for the Dreux? Prince Felipe dies in a hunting accident.