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hehe, a short lived one at that, and please change the whiny thing at the beginning that can be considered rather rude.

Also, well at least you'll still get to keep Bohemia and Lithuania :D
 
Sid Meier said:
hehe, a short lived one at that, and please change the whiny thing at the beginning that can be considered rather rude.

Also, well at least you'll still get to keep Bohemia and Lithuania :D
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Rude? Now who can't take a joke? You're the one who asked for the title change, so I changed it. :D

And just so you know, what I meant by what I said is that my rule is over, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna fight. If you want your kingdom, come and have it. The only question in my mind is how long both of you will exist after my stabilizing influence is gone.
 
stabalizing? hehe and just who is going to attack us once your gone? The mongols? Pfft.
 
Sid Meier said:
stabalizing? hehe and just who is going to attack us once your gone? The mongols? Pfft.
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Who? Well, for each of you there are really two big rivals, one human, one AI, besides myself. If you can't figure out what I'm talking about well... that's bad news for you.

EDIT: Sid, please keep OOC comments like "OMG, where'd you..." and the like out of the diplomacy thread. OOC comments that are necessary are fine, but most should go to this thread.
 
One more thing, is that, if I understand correctly, Pronsk DOWed a muslim county shortly before the end of the session. Now, I am making no accusations, but it is unfortunate that I was drawn into a war by one of my opponents shortly before a massive war was about to take place.

I think, that because of this and the fact that we are supposed to fix certain AI screwups, I should be edited to a WP with Seljuks, and perhaps have my BB edited if it's as high as I think it may be.
 
Sterkarm said:
One more thing, is that, if I understand correctly, Pronsk DOWed a muslim county shortly before the end of the session. Now, I am making no accusations, but it is unfortunate that I was drawn into a war by one of my opponents shortly before a massive war was about to take place.

I think, that because of this and the fact that we are supposed to fix certain AI screwups, I should be edited to a WP with Seljuks, and perhaps have my BB edited if it's as high as I think it may be.
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With what reason did germax start the war? Was there a crusade underway? Or what?
 
Yes, I started the war, but not against Seljuks.
As I told everyone once the session finished, I attacked an independent county and then got attacked by Seljuks.
Yes, the crusade is on.
I also support a BB reduction of maybe 3-4 points and the WP with Seljuks.
 
I too support it for fairness sake.
 
As do I.The amount of BB depends on how high it is though, because AI Poland did annex Bohemia. But considering the circumstances I think we can afford to be a little generous. That goes for Germany too, if the HRE somehow managed to rack up a lot of BB.
 
It seems like a big consensus. Then it would be wise to ask sid to edit out or reduce bb for Poland and Germany.
 
We'll do that on Saturday, when we know if anyone else besides Richard shall receive an AAR bonus. I can look up the BB and make a suggestion how much to reduce.
 
Varyar said:
We'll do that on Saturday, when we know if anyone else besides Richard shall receive an AAR bonus. I can look up the BB and make a suggestion how much to reduce.
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Yes please do it, I'm currently tied up with exam studies.
 
okay my next AAR for KES has been posted I'll be editing myself a 2.5 BB reduction, i'll upload the new save once all AAR's are in this saturday night, the upload will be up at latest 30 minute before the our game this sunday.
 
Holy crap! :eek:

I just checked the BB rating, Poland has 41.841 badboy points! That equals a monthly loyalty loss for vassals of roughly -16%! I checked some older saves and it seems that Poland both before and after the conquest of Hungary but before the conquest of Bohemia had roughly 13 BB(-5%), which is also quite a lot. Is that a correct number Sterkarm?

Honestly, I have no idea what to make of this. Obviously AI Poland has been up to something(crushing rebellious vassals, most likely), so most of it should go, but how much? I need some opinions on this.

Lurken's Germany has a more modest 4.620 BB(-1,8%). Here we can remove, what, half? I don't know how you usually calculate these things.
 
still doesnt beat Burning Ego's 81 BB in the MTT game :D
 
Actually, I think it does. 81 BB is highly survivable in EU2, as Ego's success shows. But 16% loyalty loss in CK will kill a nation in half a year.
 
ahh great - I think I will finally be able to play this coming Sunday and can definately play the following Sunday

what dynasty is most in need of a human player??

it's 14:00-18:00 GMT right?

p.s. the latest save file is the latest file right? I'll have a perusal later...
 
Kaleb said:
ahh great - I think I will finally be able to play this coming Sunday and can definately play the following Sunday

what dynasty is most in need of a human player??

it's 14:00-18:00 GMT right?

p.s. the latest save file is the latest file right? I'll have a perusal later...
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You are so welcome :)

There are two major alternatives right now, Italy and Bulgaria, and three secondary ones who have been beaten up a fair bit, Scotland, Sweden and Denmark. Depending on how the game turns out, Hungary will probably be available in coming sessions, and then becomes the most important spot too. For this sunday though, it's a toss-up between Bulgaria and Italy. You could check them out a bit in advance to see which one you prefer.

It's 15:00-20:00 GMT. If you're not absolutely certain what that is in your local time, feel free to use the Worldclock link in my sig :)

The latest save file is the one called KESxxxx which is always found here: www.zambinidirect.com/vassili/. In this case it's KES1125.

EDIT: Please specify in this thread before sunday which kingdom you pick, Kaleb. All the alternatives have been AI-run for quite some time so we'll have to remove som badboy points from them(most likely).
 
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Varyar said:
Holy crap! :eek:

I just checked the BB rating, Poland has 41.841 badboy points! That equals a monthly loyalty loss for vassals of roughly -16%! I checked some older saves and it seems that Poland both before and after the conquest of Hungary but before the conquest of Bohemia had roughly 13 BB(-5%), which is also quite a lot. Is that a correct number Sterkarm?

Honestly, I have no idea what to make of this. Obviously AI Poland has been up to something(crushing rebellious vassals, most likely), so most of it should go, but how much? I need some opinions on this.

Lurken's Germany has a more modest 4.620 BB(-1,8%). Here we can remove, what, half? I don't know how you usually calculate these things.
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hey, 41BB is indeed a heavy burden. I would suggest to take the value before the session in which Poland was NPC led and modificate it by an amount about equal to 5 years of peace.
 
thanks for that - I'll have a look at who I can play as

what if I can't play for the whole 5 hours?

I'm in England, which is kind of handy because we sneakily made it so that everyone else has to work out their time zone relative to us :D
 
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