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Finellach said:
Can I join in too? I'd really like to try MP.
Sure. We are getting thigth now. But Hungery is likely to be released. And if Sterkarm is extremly benevolent he migth organize some of the dukal titles in Russia to form a bigger, or create and release Georgia? Room can be found.
 
The most easily accessible realm right now would be that of Norway or Denmark, as I believe Cyrus has chosen Sweden, or so he said to me.

However, I may well release Hungary this next session, depending on if I can find it a strong king, and I do plan to conquer and release Georgia, once I can finally get organized and manage to fight the Seljuks. But I don't want to take any more land in Seljuk territory in Asia, we need a muslim power for EU2.

Furthermore I'd like to see Serbia or Croatia released to push the Iberian Muslims out of the Balkans.
 
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Sterkarm said:
But I don't want to take any more land in Seljuk territory in Asia, we need a muslim power for EU2.

Well said!
 
Sterkarm said:
The most easily accessible realm right now would be that of Norway or Denmark, as I believe Cyrus has chosen Sweden, or so he said to me.

However, I may well release Hungary this next session, depending on if I can find it a strong king, and I do plan to conquer and release Georgia, once I can finally get organized and manage to fight the Seljuks. But I don't want to take any more land in Seljuk territory in Asia, we need a muslim power for EU2.
Releasing Georgia would be really nice :)
 
Joohoo said:
Releasing Georgia would be really nice :)

Well I'd do it as soon as possible if you could take it as a perm.
 
One more thing guys, we need to appoint a strong GM now. I mean, we can't have voting or whatever like March Through Time had, that will merely end in either inefficiency or the editer having free reign. That being said, I ask that everyone vote for GM very soon (or when you next post in the thread).
 
yep, croatia is taken by muslims so denmark is best option so far... how knows, i might be able to release it once i get a strong position :)
 
germax said:
yep, croatia is taken by muslims so denmark is best option so far... how knows, i might be able to release it once i get a strong position :)

I have a feeling that's not part of your master plan as Venice. Though conquering the Balkans may very well be. Regardless, it's none of my business just yet.
 
I'ld like to volunteer for the role of GM I think i gained some valuable experiance as harpy gm and illpost more later in CQS atm.
 
Okay as I was saying, I think I'ld make if not the best GM at least an able one. I believe we need a strong set of rules to govern how we play for the next several centuries and we need to agree to them right away ratify them and KEEP TO THEM through thick and thin. Remember, we wont have bad rules each rule should be adaptable to changing circumstances, what I'm trying to say is we dont vote in or agree to rules that will one day be changed all our rules I think should be constant or at least updated before each game as in in EU2 we revise the rules to account for the game engine etc.

I learned enough from the few games I played about what I think can bend or break a GM, and I think I may be able to forsee them. I still think Lurken or Varyar should act as "Co-GM" for the purpose of watching me and anonimous vote by both of em = veto on whatever decision I make should be enough of a balance.

Essentially I propose this, each game whether it be Vikky, EU2 or Hoi2 before we start it we not only A revise the rules but B hold elections for GM since a GM for Vikky may not be able to proberly GM in Hoi2 for example. And this way we arent stuck with a bad gm thoughout the entire time. I think not only have we pioneered a practical system for loading saves and speeding up load times but I think we may be on the forefront of pioneering a whole new system of GM'ing.

Also here's another reason why I think I make a good choice, being Byzantium in CK and most likely China in EU2 puts me in a position of relative neutrality or isolation that keeps me out of your disputes keeping my decisions as unbiased as possible. And I think i have tried to be as fair as possible as Co-GM for example I accpeted without arguement that without Sterk on the helm Poland may have lost so a limited war to keep it even would be far more benefitial and fair, I dont remember if I suggested it but if I did Kudos to me.

I think we should start elections as soon as possible, since we are all at peace now I think we can all vote unbiasedly and in accordance to our consiounce and to the evidence best provided. ANd please imagine me saying this with former President Kennedy's New England accent.

Oh and ignore the secret police hanging around your houses...
 
rememeber must wait for crusades before embarking on plans to whip muslims.
 
Well, I was going to suggest either myself or Varyar actually (I would suggest Lurken over me, but Lurken is busy enough as it is). I'm sorry Sid, but with your attitude towards the spirit of the games in general is at odds with the philosophy of most. Your general outlook on Paradox games not as wargames but as games where people should be predictable and if you give them gifts they shouldn't hurt you seems, to me, to be in general bad for a competitive game.

I essentially was the recruiter and organizer for this game. Bin was the guy who started the first thread, but I have been working on getting a game of this nature going forever. I wish Bin were still here and could be GM, but he is not. I organized the thread, I've tried my best to keep people all over paradox forums aware of the game, and I hope this game can survive. However, I believe we need a GM who's experienced in real MP, by which I mean EU2 MP, wherein lie the true veterans of Paradox MP. I know both Lurken and I have played in numerous EU2 MP games, and I believe Varyar has as well (?). Also, Varyar was a crucial part of holding this game together back when my internet had cut out and bin left without notice, leaving the game leaderless.

I realize many people would be scared with me being a big realm and GM. Perhaps one would think I'm simply trying to control the game. All I'm doing is trying to keep this game alive and trying to avoid the mistakes I've seen made in March Through Time and other, shorter games. I've seen what can happen when there is a GM who doesn't make his decisions clearly, quickly, and reasonably, or when a GM is biased towards his country or his allies, or against his enemies. For just one example, when a GM isn't officially GM, but only the host, and simply has so many rules that one can't keep track of them. Rules are important yes, but they should be few in number and clear in description. Rules are probably most important in CK and Vicky, but EU2 and HOI2 don't require nearly as many. That being said, the game has to be flexible. Things change, new situations arise, and rules must be changed as a result, primarily by a majority. Once again, I've seen games, such as Great Game 2 and the Dukes game descend into chaos and pointless bickering and namecalling. I'm not going to let that happen to this game, because it is one of my goals to play this game all the way until 1953. I hope to see you all there as well.

Therefore, I propose myself as GM, though Varyar certainly is just as suitable. Just please don't make your decision based on recent developments but on experience.
 
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Pro:
Sid: Innovative, seeking neutrality.

Sterk: Firm, but fair. Oldtimer, motivation.

Varyar: Motivation, and had a least a strong will to go on.

Con:
Sid: May fail to understand the concept of this game. Has had some issues with MP in EU2.

Sterk: People may be grumpy if Sterk is selected. Problem with a GM with a strong and disliked realm.

Varyar: Did loose his motivation not that long ago.


I would like to see Sterk as a GM, since he is firm, he has a clear goal. He knows what this is all about. For those who fear him for having a big realm, with co-GM, as Sid and Varyar. The power is checked.

About rules, KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid, that is, the fewer, simpler and clearer rules is to prefer, instead of complicated rules.