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Eek! Now that's a rebellion.
Gholam rallied an enormous army from every corner of his empire and secured a great victory at the Battle of Saveh
Well, that's impressive. Persia is getting pretty formidable by this time.
Still holding a clear numerical advantage, the Persians engaged their enemies and fell to a horrific defeat at Khokand in 1181 that saw them lose half their invasion force in a single battle.
They really should have won that one, they had overall superiority in numbers and in troop types. Was there some special factor at play: terrain, or leadership?
In 1183, Gholam was able to cross over to Saminid territory once more, this time at the head of a sprawling army of the faithful. Over the course of the next four years battles and sieges raged across the rich lands along the Oxus
An impressive and huge recovery in numbers. Just took some time for the faithful to rally.
At the two largest battles of the war, the Gond-i Ahura Mazda won impressive victories slaughtering more than two Romans for every Persian fallen.
:eek: Huge battles and enormous butchers' bills. Especially for the Muslims.
The final years of Gholam’s reign were overshadowed by a familiar drama between the ageing emperor and his eldest son Naveed.
Events reached a head in 1094 when Gholam demanded that his son surrender his military command, believing him to be conspiring against him. In an unusual fit of chivalric pique, Naveed challenged his father to a duel to restore his honour. With age on his side, the younger man bested his father with relative ease, and left him badly injured in the process. Gholam’s injuries from the duel quickly deteriorated in the weeks ahead, and by the end of the year he had grown so weak that he had been forced to relinquish his authority to a regency council headed by Naveed. He would finally pass away in 1097, not far shy of his seventieth birthday.
Well, that's rather a cruel King Lear-ish way to go - "How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!" :oops:
The death of the Lionheart marked the close of one of the most glorious epochs in Persian history.
We shall not see his like again. :(
It was near impossible to imagine a force that could challenge this power.
Hmm, that sounds like a temptation of fate. Any sign of the Mongols yet!?
 
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The Mazdakis are crushed, and the Zoroastrians seem to have followed the examples of fellow monotheists further west.

The Byzantine-Bulgarian Alliance is very interesting. Why hasn't a Jihad been declared for Jerusalem?
 
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Dawn of the Horselords 1197-1219
Dawn of the Horselords 1197-1219

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The twelfth century marked a watershed in Iranian history. It was during this period that the region made the transition back towards being a predominantly Zoroastrian society – with other religions within the Persian heartland reduced to small minorities everywhere. This was a remarkable change from the beginning of the century when Islam was still the strongest faith in many parts of the country, strong enough to establish short lived Emirates through southern Persia doing the chaotic first decades of the century. This change had a number of causes. The Mazdakis, for all their destabilisation, had successful brought the Kurdish people into the Zoroastrian fold en-block, and even after the fall of the movement the Kurds did not stray back to their previous Muslim ways. The reorganisation of Orthodox Zoroastrianism had certainly been another driving factors, allowing the faith to present itself with greater solidity and coherence than ever before, while also adding a more militant and proselytising edge to the religion than it had ever had before. Yet perhaps the most important factor was a shift in prestige between Zoroastrianism and Islam, with the latter falling into a period of existential despair in which many questioned the future of the faith and its unity broke apart while the former projected a degree of self-confidence and power not seen in Persia for many centuries.

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Having spent his entire life living in the shadow of his mighty father, Naveed sought to build a legacy in his own right by invading Byzantine Armenia early into his reign in 1200. In remarkably contrast to the swashbuckling triumph of Persian arms in the Assyrian War a decade before, the Romans expertly outwitted the Shahanshah’s army in the high mountains. Benefiting from the aid of a Bulgarian contingent, who had been conspicuously absent in the previous war, the Romans proceeded to rout the invaders and push on into Persian territory – raiding the lands around Tabriz. The Persians were fortunate that their enemy were distracted by the outbreak of fighting against the Latins in far away Italy, making them willing to cut the conflict short in exchange for a suitable tribute. It was a humiliating start to his reign for Naveed.

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Around the turn of the century the Steppelands to the north of the Persian frontier were growing increasingly restive. A period of intense inter-tribal warfare among the Mongolic people east of the Altai mountains had driven a number of tribes to migrate westward – setting of a domino effect that destabilised the entire region as various groups were uprooted in a vicious contest for land. One of these groups were the Turkmen, an Oghuz people who had been forced out of their traditional homeland on the northern shore of the Aral Sea.

Under the leadership of their Khagan Zabergan, the Turkmen invaded Persian through a corridor between the eastern shore of the Caspian and the deserts to the west of the Oxus in 1202. Finding the area lightly defended, the Turks overran the Dihistan region – establishing roots in the area as women and children followed their army. Having set a base territory, they raid deeply into Persia – sacking Merv, Herat and Nishapur. With the Persian army still recovering from its losses to the Romans in the west the previous year, they struggled to halt the Turkmen’s path of destruction. Shahanshah Naveed himself hoped to rescue the worsening situation by meeting the Turks in battle near the fortress of Gorgan, just to the south of the Turkmen’s Dihistan base in 1203. This was a disastrous miscalculation. Unfamiliar with warfare against nomadic armies, the Persians were ripped apart by the agile manoeuvres of the Turkic horselords. The emperor himself was isolated from the main of the army and killed by Zabergan’s men.

With Naveed’s death his teenage son Gholam the Younger inherited a realm sinking into crisis. His first action was to seek to negotiate a truce with the Turkish invader in 1204, to allow the Persian state time to regroup once more. Despite his position of strength, having effective free reign to pillage Khorosan at will, Zabergan was almost as eager has his Persian counterpart to come to the table – with the future security of his people still very much in doubt. The Shah and Khagan came to an accord that would allow the Turkmen to settle permanently in the Dihistan region on the Caspain’s eastern shore in exchange for their conversion from their native Tengri faith to Zoroastrianism, their acceptance of the sovereignty of the Shahanshah and their promise to guard the northern frontier from other nomadic incursions.

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Gholam’s decision to invite the barbarians to settle on Persian soil was deeply unpopular with much of the aristocracy – not least those who were forced to give up their lands to the incomers – and the religious establishment – who mistrusted the conversion of Zoroastrian conviction of the recently pagan Turks. As such, his brief reign was paralysed by courtly factionalism and was cut short in 1208 when his enemies arranged for his assassination – allowing for his uncouth younger brother Shabaz to take on the imperial diadem. Shabaz took the Zoroastrian tradition of familiar marriage among siblings to new extremes in an exceptionally colourful private life – being married to one sister while maintaining a long running affair with another, siring children by both. Unlike his elder brother, he had little interest in the affairs of state – allowing a clerical elite around the Moabadan-Moabad Barsam to take the lead in governing the realm.

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The High Priesthood took advantage of its moment of political power to institutionalise the military power of militant Zoroastrianism, that remained a powerful force in Persian society. This led to the formation of the Immortals – a military-religious order that would amass properties in many parts of the empire and build up an influential military force sworn to protect the Zoroastrian faith. Under their first leader, the dashing Kurosh Roshni – a veteran of campaigns running back as war as the Assyrian War – the Immortals would lead the way at the forefront of a period of expansionism. Cooperating with local Satraps across the empire’s eastern borderlands, Roshni and his Immortals pushed Islam close to the brink of destruction in Central Asia. The dwindling Saminids were pursued across the Hindu Kush and into the distant Tarim Basin, closer to China than the Persian heartland. Elsewhere, the south of the Pashtun lands Persian power advanced into Sistan, leaving just a few independent Muslim strongholds left east of Arabia while the Turkic peoples along the Jaxartes River in Central Asia, flowing into the Aral Sea from the east, were also subjugated.

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The eyes of the Immortals and their religious backers turned westward in the late 1210s – towards Christian-controlled Syria. Outside the traditional Iranian world, but nonetheless of tremendous potential significance to Persia – Syria offered the opportunity to stretch the empire’s power to the Mediterranean Sea, and potentially cut the Orthodox Christians out of the silk road trade entirely by giving Persian merchants direct access to Europe. Leadership of the expedition was taken on by Roshni and his Immortals, yet, in contrast to the smaller border wars he had previously overseen, the Persian zealots would see the full might of the imperial state support their expedition with tens of thousands gathering from every corner of the empire for the fight beginning in 1216.

With both Byzantium and Bulgaria joining together to resist the invasion, Roshni was able to outflank the Orthodox Christian alliance by striking a deal with the small Nestorian Assyrian state of Palmyra that allowed him to move his army through their lands and bypass the Roman fortification in the territories west of Mosul. Having reached Syria, the Persians acted with remarkable speed – taking both Antioch and Damascus by storm and acting decisively to prevent the Bulgarian and Byzantine armies from joining together by facing down each force in separate engagements. The speed of these victories were somewhat surprising to both sides of the conflict and left the Persians in a powerful position from which to threaten the wider Levant. Indeed, when Roshni began to march his army south from Damascus towards the Holy Land in 1219 the Christians hastily sent envoys to Baghdad seeking peace – agreeing to surrender much of Syria to Persian rule.

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As the Iranian public basked in the glory of this latest great triumph, concerning tales were already reaching court from the east. The same period of warfare and instability in the eastern Steppe that had pushed the Turkmen into their invasion of Dihistan in the 1200s had reached its conclusion and produced a Great Khan at the head of mighty tribal confederacy. The boundaries of this Khanate were already starting to seep beyond the Altai Mountains – putting it into contact with the most distant appendages of the Persian Empire in the Tarim Basin.
 
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You all know what's coming ....


We are moving into a very fun period to write about. The Turkmen invasion and settlement, the rise of the Immortals and some new threat emerging on the frontier. The immediate future has suddenly gotten a little uncertain.

A Lionheart, for a nation that has come back roaring like a lion itself. Gholam has brought Persia from strength to strength, despite some early setbacks in the war for Transoxiana, and has left an ancient foe battered and broken.

I do, however, note that we're only a few decades shy of a few rather rowdy uninvited guests making their appearance on the world stage...

A Lion indeed, and his son (despite in game having significantly better stats) proved to be a mere shadow of his fathers, as indeed did his second son who has spent his reign largely involved in incestuous relations in his palace while stronger men take the lead. You can't see from the map at the end of the update, but a certain rather scary empire now actually shared a border with us in the far north east of the Tarim Basin ...

Eek! Now that's a rebellion.

Well, that's impressive. Persia is getting pretty formidable by this time.

They really should have won that one, they had overall superiority in numbers and in troop types. Was there some special factor at play: terrain, or leadership?

An impressive and huge recovery in numbers. Just took some time for the faithful to rally.


:eek: Huge battles and enormous butchers' bills. Especially for the Muslims.


Well, that's rather a cruel King Lear-ish way to go - "How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!" :oops:

We shall not see his like again. :(

Hmm, that sounds like a temptation of fate. Any sign of the Mongols yet!?

In terms of rebellions - I set popular rebellions on this game to be extremely strong and less common. Which is something I find more enjoyable and realistic than the usual bug squashing campaigns you get. It also helps to constrain (to some extent) blobbing in the early game as going into foreign or wrong religion lands is more difficult until states start getting stronger. It's certainly helped make my story more interesting, with rebels occasionally beating me.

The loss in Transoxiania was in large part overconfidence in my part in going on the offensive on not the best terrain. Nonetheless - I still thought I comfortably had the numbers to win! That battle really set me back and almost lost the war before we rallied back.

Those battles in the Assyrian War were by far the largest I'd faced in this run through to this point. We came through them with an absolute breeze - the losses the Byzantines took were extraordinary.

What's a better way to conclude a glorious reign than a troubled father-son relationship? :p It was certainly disappointing after all that struggle to get on top just how much of a damp squib Naveed's reign turned out to be.

As for the Mongols ... ;)

The Mazdakis are crushed, and the Zoroastrians seem to have followed the examples of fellow monotheists further west.

The Byzantine-Bulgarian Alliance is very interesting. Why hasn't a Jihad been declared for Jerusalem?

The Byzantine-Bulgarian axis is a strange one in this AAR. Their territories overlap quite a bit, but they never seem to be at war with one another but both fight and defend together in various Holy Wars. The Bulgarians took the king's share of the territories they took from the Muslims as well. In terms of Jihads. The Muslims launched one against me when I took Iraq (and they still had some strength) but it failed. By now they are simply too weak to mount a serious attempt to regain Jerusalem. Indeed - they don't even hold Mecca and Medina anymore!

Persia has done well, but we are approaching that not very nice time, where an ambitious Khan comes from the east and destroys everything you have built.

You all were certainly quick off the mark in realising a certain Mr Chinghis was about to make his appearance very soon! Given our proximity to their borders, it is clear that we are going to have to face them down. The question now is only how much of their weight is directed at us and will we be able to withstand it. No spoilers! ;)
 
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That Buddhist community by the Caspian Sea -- how'd they get there, I wonder?

The Turkmen incursion is certainly a worrying harbinger of things to come -- if such a (relatively) small band of refugees can give the Bavandids this much trouble, how will they fare against a Mongol khagan who has a proper horde united under his control?
 
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With the Persian army still recovering from its losses to the Romans in the west the previous year, they struggled to halt the Turkmen’s path of destruction. Shahanshah Naveed himself hoped to rescue the worsening situation by meeting the Turks in battle near the fortress of Gorgan, just to the south of the Turkmen’s Dihistan base in 1203. This was a disastrous miscalculation. Unfamiliar with warfare against nomadic armies, the Persians were ripped apart by the agile manoeuvres of the Turkic horselords. The emperor himself was isolated from the main of the army and killed by Zabergan’s men.
That just about sums him up: kills his legendary father in order to take over, blows it all with a failed campaign, leading to him being unable to properly resist the Turkmen invasion and getting slaughtered on the battlefield! Good job, son! :p
his brief reign was paralysed by courtly factionalism and was cut short in 1208 when his enemies arranged for his assassination
Even more ignominious. Not even any delusions of grandeur - just a sordid life and quick death. :eek:
As the Iranian public basked in the glory of this latest great triumph, concerning tales were already reaching court from the east. The same period of warfare and instability in the eastern Steppe that had pushed the Turkmen into their invasion of Dihistan in the 1200s had reached its conclusion and produced a Great Khan at the head of mighty tribal confederacy.
A good Immortal-led recovery and defeat of the Orthodox alliance, but the distant thunder of hoof beats on the steppe is getting closer.
You all know what's coming ....
Yup. :D
The Turkmen incursion is certainly a worrying harbinger of things to come -- if such a (relatively) small band of refugees can give the Bavandids this much trouble, how will they fare against a Mongol khagan who has a proper horde united under his control?
Yes indeed. Will Persia fight, or concede ground while it can? Is there a plan to develop more buildings for certain troop types to fight the Mongols when possible/unavoidable? Or even try to ally with them?
 
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The Destroyer of Worlds 1219-1233
The Destroyer of Worlds 1219-1233

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For centuries the warlike people of the East Asian Steppe had been divided into many different tribal confederations locked in constant competition with one another. While through history the power of the nomads had occasionally been harnessed to establish great empires and threaten the settled peoples of Eurasia, the increasingly advanced societies of the High Middle Ages felt more secure than many of their forebears had. In the coming decades, this sense of security would be annihilated by a new enemy of unimaginable ferocity. In the late twelfth century the Mongol lands north of China were locked in long struggle for supremacy as a tribal leader named Temujin sought to unify the scattered peoples of the region into a single state. By the turn of the century he had been successful in this aim – adopting the title Genghis Khan and assuming authority over all the nomads east of the Altai Mountains. He then proceeded to spend the first two decades of the new century making war against the Chinese – gradually conquering all of China north of the Yangtze and cutting a path of untold destruction in his wake.

Through this period, the Mongols appeared to have be largely focussed on East Asia, with little desire to make war against the lands to their west. Their principle interest with the powers of Central Asia was in trade – with the silk road route travelling from their lands through Persia. In 1219 the Great Khan sent an emissary Kashgar, the centre of Persian power in the Tarim Basin, and beseeched the Shahanshah as an equal to cooperate in defending the trade routes in the region from raids by the Turkic Karluks – who dominated the lands east of the Urals and west of the Mongol empire – and requesting exemptions from various tolls for Mongolian merchants. The Persian response to this emissary deeply insulted the Khan – offering to meet Mongol requests only on the condition that he swear fealty to Baghdad and allow Zoroastrian missionaries to preach in his lands. Enraged, Genghis Khan cut off his campaigns in China and gathered his armies to ride west to restore Mongol honour. This was a decision that would shake the world.

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In 1220 as many as 100,000 Mongol rides swarmed into the Tarim Basin – overrunning Persian territory and forcing the independent rulers of the region to submit to the Great Khan. Much of the local elite, mostly Persianised Muslims leftover from the Saminid-period, welcomed the invaders while Baghdad’s ability to project power in this far flung province was so weak that military resistance was light. As such, most of the territory fell to the Mongols within a few short months and with shockingly little bloodshed in comparison with events that were to come. When a sizeable Persian army did finally arrive in the region to face the Mongols, it found itself badly outnumbered and was almost completely destroyed at the battle of Tumshuk in 1221. With war breaking out on Persia’s western frontier with the Byzantine Empire the same year, Persia abandoned its attempts to regain the Tarim Basin after this battlefield defeat – instead establishing a defensive position around the Tian Shan Mountains with the aim of preventing the Mongols from advancing into Transoxiania.

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Facing down the old enemy proved a far simpler task than addressing the new threat in the east. The Romans’ first target was the wealthy city of Tabriz, where they hoped to take advantage of a city’s Christian Armenian population to seize a foothold from which to begin a larger campaign of conquest. Coordinated by Kurosh Roshni and the Immortals, the Persians were able to mobilise their forces faster than expected to block the Byzantine advance west of the city at Khoy. Possessing a numerical advantage, the Byzantines opted to go on the offensive despite this disruption to their plans and faced a heavy defeat that sent them into retreat back across the border. Fighting would continue for several more months, but the Byzantines failed to deploy another invading army on this scale until agreeing to a white truce in 1222.

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While they had fended off the Romans in the West, the Persians’ Mongol enemy had paused their operations through most of 1221 as they gathered their forces for the next stage of their campaign. Genghis Khan approached the problem of the Persians’ strong defensive position on the passes of the Tian Shan Mountains with typical cunning and brutality. Making agreements with the Karluks, Genghis led one column of his army through the deserts to the north of the mountains, hitherto believed to be impassible for a sizeable military force, before descending on the civilian population. The Mongols destroyed towns and villages throughout the region, slaying thousands, taking many more as slaves and despoiling the lands and infrastructure in a deliberate campaign of destruction. Unable to ignore these horrors, the Persians moved to confront the Great Khan’s column – thereby weakening their defences of the mountain ranges and allowing the larger part of the Mongol army to sweep into Transoxiania. The incredible speed with which the Mongolian armies could move, their nomadic military tactics and the skills of their generals left the Persians disorientated and dismayed in their efforts to confront the invaders on the open field. Despite their many victories in recent times over settled empires, they lost a string of battles in the region and being forced to rely on the high walls of the mercantile cities.

This was a foolish tactic, although many nomadic armies had historically struggled when confronted with strong fortifications, the Mongols had grown into experts in siege warfare from their long years of campaigning in China. Through the next two years, one by one the great cities of Transoxiania, Khiva, Samarqand, Bukkhara, fell to them, and on each occasion the Mongols followed the same process – completely destroying the cities, slaughtering their populace and taking those than remained into slavery. The indelible image of this phase of the war would be the fate of Urgench - where the Mongols created large towers of the severed heads of the citizenry, piled high by the thousands. The demographic impact of this invasion on Central Asia should not be underestimated – in the course of just a couple of years the urban population of the region was almost totally annihilated while it is estimated that by the 1230s at least half of the pre-war population of Transoxiania had either perished of fled. This was a level of brutality not seen in the Iranian world for generations.

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As fear and anger gripped Persia, the empire fell into civil war in 1224. Varshasb the Lame, the battle-scarred Sub-Shah of Khorosan who ruled the eastern third of the empire, was incensed at the conduct of the war as his lands were flooded with refugees and their lurid tales of Mongol atrocities. Having hoped to bring down the ineffectual Shahanshah Shabaz and his domineering marshal Kurosh Roshni, Varshasb instead merely crippled the empire’s already fraying power at the most dangerous moment possible. Indeed, while Persian clashed with Persian, the Great Khan would enter the fray by advancing into Khorosan in 1225.

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By the outbreak of civil war the imperial treasury was already running empty after years of intense fighting. As soldiers went unpaid, elements of the army were already laying down their arms. Nonetheless, the loyalists were determined to resist the breakup of the empire. The conflict against the Khorosanis centred around the key city of Herat – a loyalist island completely surrounded by rebel territory. From the beginning of his rebellion, Varshasb had brought the city under siege – but found its strong fortifications difficult to breach. He therefore settled into a siege while the loyalists tried to push eastwards to relieve the city and the Mongols began to the northern part of his domain. This stage of the war reached its conclusion in a dramatic three-way tussle over Herat. While the two Persian armies ground against one another, the Mongols launched a blistered campaign – first defeating the loyalist relief force that had been held up at Birjand, west of the city, before swinging eastward to face down Varshasb and his besieging army in the space of two weeks. Taking over the siege from the Khorosanis, Genghis Khan gave the defenders of Herat a choice between surrender or annihilation. Tired from a long struggle against the Khorosanis, and well aware of the fate suffered by their cousins in the north – Herat threw its gates open to the Khan.

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In the aftermath of the fall of Herat, the three parties in the conflict were able to agree a truce in 1226 – with the Mongol army happy to take the chance to pause after six years of campaigning to consolidate their gains. In the south east, Varshasb established his independence over a large stretch of territory despite the loss of Khorosan itself. Less than a year after this truce the Shahanshah Shabaz died, having suffered from the pox for several painful months. This left the imperial diadem in the hands of his three year old son Vandad and brought about another ill-timed bout of internal instability. In the west, the Syrians separated themselves from Baghdad to form an independent Shahdom. In the capital, a power struggle broke out between pro and anti Immortal factions who vied for control over the regency council and the direction of the realm following the trauma of the past decade. With his enemy prostrating themselves before him, the predatory Khan saw little choice but to strike against the Iranians once more.

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Despite the tremendous losses of the preceding years, the Persian empire remained a serious power capable of fielding an army approaching 30,000 strong. Assembling this host, Kurosh Roshni marched to face down the vanguard of the Mongol army at Shahriar, near the city of Rayy. Despite outnumbering their foe nearly three to two, the Persian army was nearly completely obliterated in the face of the remarkable generalship of the Great Khan’s eldest son Bujeg – suffering their worst single defeat of the entire period of invasion while Roshni himself was struck down. With their army broken and the state visibly disintegrating, the conflict was in truth already over except for the shouting. With the imperial state capable of only minimal support, one by one the great cities of the Iranian heartland fell – Tehran, Qom, Isfahan, Hamadan, Yazd, Shiraz. Gripped by fear and hopelessness, few resisted the invaders, while those who did suffered the familiar fate of massacres and destruction. By the end of 1231 the Mongols held all of central Persia, while in the north an independent Daylamite Shahdom had established itself around Tabriz and Baku.

As the Great Khan spent the next year in Persia, planning a final push to destroy the Zoroastrian empire than had so insulted him all those years before with an invasion of Mesopotamia, his health began to worsen. Now in his mid-sixties, the toll of years at war had done what no army could and forced him to withdraw back to Karakoram, followed by his army, where he passed away peacefully in 1233. From nothing, he had made the earth shake and conquered an empire stretching from the Persian Gulf to the Pacific Ocean, and a death toll that could be counted in the millions. The world would anxious await the outcome of the resulting Kurultai that would decide the future of this great empire.
 
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So the mighty Bavandid empire sits on its knees, kept alive only on life support at this stage.

An in game explanation. I've been disappointed by the Mongols in an AAR too many at this point so did a bit of tag switching so the Mongols kept DoWing me (and at one point the Khorosani rebels). I then switched back to fight the wars and, given the massive and powerful Mongol event armies, kept losing.

That Buddhist community by the Caspian Sea -- how'd they get there, I wonder?

The Turkmen incursion is certainly a worrying harbinger of things to come -- if such a (relatively) small band of refugees can give the Bavandids this much trouble, how will they fare against a Mongol khagan who has a proper horde united under his control?

The Saminid empire was always quite religiously diverse - they had a big chunk of Zoroastrian provinces, but also Manichaens, Muslims (obviously), Hindus and Buddhist. In their dog days it seems different chunks of their vassals started adopting non-Muslim religions. One of those ruled Dihistan by the Caspian and converted the provinces to Buddhism (even as they remained culturally Persian).

The Turkmen incursion turned out to be just as concerning a sign of what was to come as you anticipated. The Persian empire is in life support and (bizarrely) almost entirely Arabic and Muslim following the loss of most of the empire. Let us pray for a division of the empire at this Kurultai.

That just about sums him up: kills his legendary father in order to take over, blows it all with a failed campaign, leading to him being unable to properly resist the Turkmen invasion and getting slaughtered on the battlefield! Good job, son! :p

Even more ignominious. Not even any delusions of grandeur - just a sordid life and quick death. :eek:

A good Immortal-led recovery and defeat of the Orthodox alliance, but the distant thunder of hoof beats on the steppe is getting closer.

Yup. :D

Yes indeed. Will Persia fight, or concede ground while it can? Is there a plan to develop more buildings for certain troop types to fight the Mongols when possible/unavoidable? Or even try to ally with them?

Naveed was a huge disappointment in so many ways. Not least in that he actually had much better stats than his father! Given the inbreeding we have had in the different royal families to this point, my average leader has fairly crappy stats - so to have a good one come along and be such a failure was frustrating.

That thunder of hooves ran over the entire empire. In terms of the wars and my plans. The first war in the Tarmin Basin was a real write off - it was so distant and the Mongol armies too large and concentrated. The fighting in Transoxiania was perhaps the fiercest. I was weakened by the short war against the Byzantines (who I thankfully got a big early victory against to cut their invasion short), but was still near the height of my power and good funnel in plenty of mercs alongside a sea of levies. Despite this, I couldn't really defeat when I would lose just about every battle.

I have to say, how this came to be must be quite interesting.

I love these little quirks too. In game, there are quite a few Assyrian cultured, Nestorian religion provinces in the 926 start date across northern Iraq and eastern Syria. A lot of these were culturally/religiously converted over the course of the game by this point. However, during the collapse of the Arab states in the area in the 12th century a religious revolt by Nestorians was able to establish this little Assyrian-Nestorian state in Palmyra. As they are Christians, the Byzantines and Bulgarians don't invade and so have left them be.

As a small spoiler, I've played this game on into EU4 and there are still Assyrian Nestorians around come the 19th century. Their song still has a good few stanzas to play!
 
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Oh my, it was as bad as could have been anticipated. :eek:

Varshasb instead merely crippled the empire’s already fraying power at the most dangerous moment possible.
Horrible timing that accelerated the fall.
Less than a year after this truce the Shahanshah Shabaz died, having suffered from the pox for several painful months.
Well, he probably deserved that, but …
imperial diadem in the hands of his three year old son
… not the leadership they needed to replace him.
Assembling this host, Kurosh Roshni marched to face down the vanguard of the Mongol army at Shahriar
A name to lament in Persian history.
the Persian army was nearly completely obliterated
Dang, that’s hard. Is there any way to reasona defeat such a horse-heavy army!
one by one the great cities of the Iranian heartland fell
Cruel, after all it took to get them.
await the outcome of the resulting Kurultai that would decide the future of this great empire
Let us pray for a division of the empire at this Kurultai.
While it could divide them, they won’t magically disappear. :(
did a bit of tag switching so the Mongols kept DoWing me (and at one point the Khorosani rebels). I then switched back to fight the wars and, given the massive and powerful Mongol event armies, kept losing.
That was ‘courageous’! o_O Was it more successful than you had banked on? What had been so disappointing about the Mongols in past games?
 
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Will be interesting to see how - or if - the Persians can come back from this.
 
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I certainly knew that the Mongols were going to harm Persia, but I never believed that they would mutilate it, it would be best to defend what remains of the empire in Mesopotamia to prevent them from looting Neo Ctesiphon. But I see the long-term survival of persia unlikely, the best thing will be to surrender to the mongols and hope that Timur is more merciful with us.
 
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That's certainly a dramatic turn of events! Toppled from the pinnacle of their power, with the heart violently cut out of their empire, reduced effectively to a rump state in Arabia and Mesopotamia -- the Bavandids have had a very hard fall indeed, and seem to have hit their head on every rung on the ladder on the way down. Maybe the death of the Great Khan will give them a little breathing space, but it's going to be a long, hard slog back to the top -- if they can even make it that far before the Mongols recover their balance.
 
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Jewels of the World 1233-1243
Jewels of the World 1233-1243

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The blessed relief from further Mongol incursions brought about by Genghis Khan’s death in 1233 did not mean that the Persian world was freed from threats. Instead of enemies in the east, they were forced to turn west where the Orthodox Christian empires of Bulgaria and Byzantium joined together to strike against the Zoroastrians, stepping on the neck of their weakened foe. Over the course of the next three years the Bulgarians would push the Persians from the Arabian Desert, the Byzantines conquered the recently independent Daylamite state – securing the crucial city of Tabriz for themselves, while the two powers combined to destroy the Syrian Shahdom.

At home in Baghdad, the preceding years of catastrophe were difficult for the remnants of Persian imperial power to comprehend. With the Shahanshah a small child, there was little that could limit the rise of discordant factionalism. Notably, the Immortals, having summarily failed to protect the realm from the Mongol invaders, were expelled from power – with the order even forced out the capital by their jealous opponents. Meanwhile, those that remained behind struggled to find consensus around any possible approach – with groups putting forward strategies as divergent as submitting to the Great Khan in exchange for security to launching a grand reconquest of the lost provinces.

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Far to the east in Karakoram, after some months of deliberation the Kurultai that had followed the death of Genghis Khan selected the great conqueror’s successor. Kulug, Genghis’ second son, was to reign as the new Great Khan of the Mongol Empire. This decision frustrated his elder brother, Bujeg, who had been instrumental in the victories in Persia and was seen by many as the superior warrior. Nonetheless, all parties accepted the new settlement.

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This unity was in part motivated by news from the west. While the majority of the Mongol hordes had withdrawn back to the Far East, a wave of rebellions had swept over the conquered lands. By Kulug Khan’s investiture, Mongol authority across Persia and Central Asia had almost completely collapsed. The tumens were therefore assembled to ride west once more. Despite the chaotic breakdown of their power, the Mongols found a disunited and uncoordinated opposition whom they were able to grind into submission with characteristic brutality. Just as it had during the initial conquest, Transoxiania faced the brunt of Mongol brutality as Kulug Khan and his armies sought to kill or expel the largest part of the population of the already depopulated province. Most notably, these acts would clear the way from a resettlement of the lands south of the Aral Sea by Mongols and other East Asian nomads and the establishment of a western capital for their administration at Khiva. Although no other provinces were so badly hit, one by one the territories in rebellion were subdued at the tip of Mongolian blades.

It was notable that during revolt the powerful Kashmiri Kingdom – whose lands stretched from Delhi to the Himalayas – had aligned itself with Hindu Pashtun tribes along its frontiers. Attempting to take advantage of the Mongols’ difficulties. While they withdrew after Kulug’s armies returned in force, the Great Khan did not forget this transgression. In 1234 he launched an invasion of Kashmir. Despite the mountainous terrain of the kingdom, the Mongols made remarkably quick progress as their foes fled southwards out of fear of their invincible armies. By 1235 Kulug had reached the fertile soil of the Gagnetic Plain and proceeded to destroy the glorious city of Delhi – stunning the Hindu world – before returning northwards, with the Raja of Kashmir as his vassal, as soon as he had arrived.

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Not to be outdone by his brother the Great Khan, Bujeg also became involved in an even more audacious campaign of conquest. During the chaotic years of the rebellion, the Byzantines had consolidated their grip over Azerbaijan and Tabriz. In doing so they had also deployed troops into some territories that the Mongols claimed as their own in the neighbouring province of Gilan on the Caspian’s south-western coast. With the rebels in central Persia largely beaten, Bujeg used this infringement as justification to invade the Roman Empire. With an initial force of just 40,000, Bujeg was significantly by his foe. Yet, if anything, the Byzantines proved even more incapable of confronting the dizzying military approach of the horse lords than the Persians had been. At the battle of Trebizond in 1237, the Mongols destroyed the pride of the Roman army, took their Emperor hostage and set in motion a dramatic collapse.

With Emperor Alexios in Mongol hands, Bujeg would seek to use the legitimacy of the Emperor’s commands to dictate crushing peace terms on the Romans that would see most of eastern Anatolia fall to the Mongols. As was the Byzantine fashion, rather than surrender to save their sovereign, a pretender seized power in Constantinople determined to oppose the Mongols. As divisions erupted, Greek began to fight against Greek – crippling the realm – and the Empire’s Bulgarian allies stepped away from assisting the enemies of their close ally Alexios. All the while Bujeg advanced quickly and mercilessly across Anatolia. Notably, his skilled use of the Imperial authority of Alexios had seen a large part of the Byzantine fleet align with the Mongols on the understanding that he would restore the rightful Emperor to power in Constantinople in exchange for the truce he had previously agreed.

Having ferried elements of the Mongol army over to Europe, the Greek ships aided the Mongols in bringing the Queen of Cities herself under siege. It would not take long for the Romans to realise with horror the scale of their miscalculation. When Bujeg took Constantinople by storm in 1241, having already subdued most of Anatolia and even parts of the southern Balkans, there was to be no restoration but instead more than a month of wanton destruction from which the city would never truly recover. Millennia of artefacts, learning and cultural heritage was set aflame. Having achieved his aims, Bujeg, taking on the traditions of his enemy, blinded Alexios so as to make him unsuitable to rule and named himself as master of the Romans – while maintaining his overarching loyalty to the Great Khan Kulug. After thirteen centuries, the Roman Empire was no more, and now Mongol rule stretched all the way to Europe.

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While Bujeg was in the midst of his war against the Romans, his brother was planning a crowning achievement alone. Joined by his second son Yedi, he sought to strike against the weak remnants of the Bavandid Empire in fertile and strategically vulnerable Iraq. In 1239 a vast Mongol army poured over the Zagros and into Mesopotamia. In truth, the Persians had little fight left in them. Barely capable of fielding a viable fighting force, their armies were swept from the field within weeks. Baghdad itself only held out a few months before the Mongols breached its defences and fell upon the city.

For the next several weeks they would engage in an orgy of destruction, as they had done so many times before. The House of Wisdom – the greatest library in the world that traced its origins to the Muslim period, but now houses the most ancient Zoroastrian religious texts and works of scholarship drawn from across the globe – was burnt to the ground alongside the centuries of learning it houses. Mosques, Fire Temples and Churches were levelled and hundreds of thousands perished as the conquerors systematically massacred the populations of one of the world’s largest cities. In the space of just a few years, Constantinople, Baghdad and Delhi – the jewels of the Christian, Zoroastrian and Hindu worlds – had each been conquered and destroyed. The terrible power of the horde knew no limits.

For Zoroastrians, the flame relight by Vushmgir and Mardavij three hundred years before appeared to have been extinguished once more.

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Kulug ruled over this world-spanning empire for only a vanishingly short time after the fall of Baghdad – passing away in 1243. He was to be only the second and last ruled of a unified Mongol Empire. Upon his death, Karakom’s imperium was divided into three unequal parts. In the east, Kulug’s eldest would reign over China and Mongolia-proper, nominally as the Great Khan. In the west, his brother Bujeg established the Rum Khanate from his seat of power at Ankara in central Anatolia, an ersatz successor to the fallen Byzantine Empire. Finally, from Khiva, Kulug’s second son Yedi established the Ilkhanate over the bones of the Persian empire. With his capital in Khiva, Yedi’s state stretched from Mesopotamia to the Tarim Basin and from Delhi to the Aral Sea.
 
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Byzantium no more .... Persia no more ...

So, in game these conquests were accomplished with the 'Subjugation' CB which allows entire large states to be made vassals (and takes any titles with equal stature - in this case the empire tier titles of Persia and Byzantium). That meant that Kulug had 3 empire titles at his death. I intervened for a cleaner break up of the Mongol Empire into 3 parts. The Rum Khanate and Ilkhanate are just renamed skins of the Byzantine and Persian tags with Mongol rulers. Each also get some Mongol provinces (the Ilkhanate a few centred around Khiva, and the Rum Khanate just a couple around Ankara).

Don't worry, this is not the end. There are still millions of Zoroastrians in Persia, many many Zoroastrian rulers (now under Mongol rule) and of course the Mongols are known for their religious flexibility. Could they be won over? No spoilers for what is to come ;).

Oh my, it was as bad as could have been anticipated. :eek:

Horrible timing that accelerated the fall.

Well, he probably deserved that, but …

… not the leadership they needed to replace him.

A name to lament in Persian history.

Dang, that’s hard. Is there any way to reasona defeat such a horse-heavy army!

Cruel, after all it took to get them.


While it could divide them, they won’t magically disappear. :(

That was ‘courageous’! o_O Was it more successful than you had banked on? What had been so disappointing about the Mongols in past games?

And it only grew worse!

It's quite something how awful the leadership we had during these invasions has been - with an uninterested Shah followed by a literal toddler. It is perhaps unsurprising we fared so poorly when this is taken into consideration.

Those Mongol event armies really pack a pretty terrifying punch - never better illustrated than at Shahriar.

It terms of disappointing Mongols, I think going back as far as when they extended the map to India and the Altai region they have never been quite the same. They used to regularly get deep into Europe and the Middle East, but now its not uncommon for them to peter out before ever getting past the Caspian. I remember in Here Dwells God, where I was playing as a Polish state in eastern Europe, I was hoping they would pop up as a mid-game threat but they never got anywhere close to my borders.

Will be interesting to see how - or if - the Persians can come back from this.

That come back may have to be put into a longer timeframe now! :eek: :eek:

I certainly knew that the Mongols were going to harm Persia, but I never believed that they would mutilate it, it would be best to defend what remains of the empire in Mesopotamia to prevent them from looting Neo Ctesiphon. But I see the long-term survival of persia unlikely, the best thing will be to surrender to the mongols and hope that Timur is more merciful with us.

You were right to say that the empire had become too weak by the time it was isolated to Iraq to hold on - lacking even the benefit of good natural barriers after the Mongols held the Zagros. The question turns to what now. Accommodate and seek to assimilate the invaders? Fight back? See the Persian-Zoroastrian culture that we have fought so long to restore go into retreat once more? There are many possible options ahead.

That's certainly a dramatic turn of events! Toppled from the pinnacle of their power, with the heart violently cut out of their empire, reduced effectively to a rump state in Arabia and Mesopotamia -- the Bavandids have had a very hard fall indeed, and seem to have hit their head on every rung on the ladder on the way down. Maybe the death of the Great Khan will give them a little breathing space, but it's going to be a long, hard slog back to the top -- if they can even make it that far before the Mongols recover their balance.
Perhaps Persia's one real chance to make a comeback during the invasions was that respite after Genghis died and the conquered lands were aflame with revolts. Had we struck then while the Mongols were dealing with so many other threats there might have been a chance. But alas, the old empire has fallen.
 
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Bujeg, taking on the traditions of his enemy, blinded Alexios so as to make him unsuitable to rule and named himself as master of the Romans
Good show! Mongol humanitarianism at its best. :eek:
Byzantium no more .... Persia no more ...
Gasp. That was a dramatic collapse.
Don't worry, this is not the end. There are still millions of Zoroastrians in Persia, many many Zoroastrian rulers (now under Mongol rule) and of course the Mongols are known for their religious flexibility. Could they be won over? No spoilers for what is to come ;).
So the dynasty survives. What of the young former Shah, who must be nearing adulthood by now? Does he retain a title? Houdini’s skills will be required to escape from under the Mongol thumb - and stay independent.
 
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If I had a nickel for every time the Romans and Persians tired each other out before they both were defeated by a rising nomadic empire I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice!

Really liking this, especially how decisively you've lost; it should be exciting to see you reclaim greatness. Are there any plans to make this a megacampaign like your last AAR?
 
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If I had a nickel for every time the Romans and Persians tired each other out before they both were defeated by a rising nomadic empire I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice!

Dammit, beat me to it!
 
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