As expected.
So both the Deux-Sevres and the Loire-Atlantique are missile boats.
Seven missile tubes each.
So both the Deux-Sevres and the Loire-Atlantique are missile boats.
Seven missile tubes each.
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As the enemy missiles approach, our Gauss Cannon turrets and secondary (light) Laser turrets shift back to PD mode - we had been using them as anti-ship weapons - but of course our 50-year-old gear can't stop a couple of spreads of missiles traveling at 78,400 kps.
The plucky Dreaded Fortress of Doom goes down fighting...
We shall rename it "The Doomed Fortress of Dread".
The plucky Dreaded Fortress of Doom goes down fighting...
We shall rename it "The Doomed Fortress of Dread".
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One salvo was aimed at the Fortress, the second salvo targeted an adjacent maintenance workshop.
The workshop was destroyed, but the Fortress survived with armor damage.
The workshop was destroyed, but the Fortress survived with armor damage.
Well, I'm surprised! I thought sure that the previously spotted "pairs of 7" from similar forces in the past came from the Marengos! Guess I was wrong. Does our Intelligence summary on the Marengo class say anything about their weaponry?
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The Marengo is also a missile boat.
... these guys are missile maniacs. So getting up close and personal with Gunships at a jump point sounds about right.
... these guys are missile maniacs. So getting up close and personal with Gunships at a jump point sounds about right.
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That looks like they only have three missile tubes, but remember that one of their Marengos has taken several internals already.
Also, Marengo 006 hasn't fired yet.
Also, Marengo 006 hasn't fired yet.
This is the first time we've had a Res-1 active sensor on them at close range (our jump point beacon) just at the moment of firing.
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Marengo 006 just fired.
And that makes all four scouts missile boats. Seven tubes each.
And that makes all four scouts missile boats. Seven tubes each.
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Since they are all actually missile boats, perhaps we should start referring to that squadron as the Advance Force?
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So even though the Deux-Sevres and Loire-Atlantique are firing the same missles as the Marengo, (the ones that went many millions of KM to hit our anchorage) they have less powerful Active sensors/Fire Controls. I don't think that they fired any of THEIR missles at the anchorage! Force Red 1's Deux-Sevres could still have full missle launchers.
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Quite possibly.
Our ambush at the Lernea jump point should pick off all the small missile boats first, and after that we will be relying on the nine minute missile reload cycle.
The small missile boats also lack shields.
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How many tubes do the small boats have?
Does this pose a potential risk to the gunships going after Red 1?
Does this pose a potential risk to the gunships going after Red 1?
Sounds about right to me.
7, apparently.
Maybe.
There are 2 Deux-Sevres in there. Neither of them presumably has fired any shots yet.
.. which means we'll probably be facing salvo's of 2x7 missiles each.
Now, the gunship fleet doesn't have the storm PD escorts I presume -- too slow. We do have a little PD in there, but it's nowhere near the level it was when they were firing the big salvos on Harmony station.
Now, let's discount that for the moment. Without PD, if we take all 14 missiles on the shields of a single emotion that's 14 times 18 damage - 252 damage.
Not enough to worry an Emotion's 400 point shields. Not with those 9 minute reload times, which I think they would also have.
BUT. We still don't know what type of ship the Vosges is. If that one also carries missiles, it could get problematic.
Red 1 has three of them. If those *also* fire 7 missiles each, we're looking at another 21 missiles.
So. Maybe?
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The Vosges is an anti-missile boat. I don't remember whether it is a beam or missile firing anti-missile, but I have checked.
from my post #9029 :
"the 7 Lot-et-Garrone ships are the ones that fired the BIG salvos, ( they each have 20 tubes and 3 Fire controls), the 3 Gard's are the AMM-PD ships, the 3 Vosges' are the short-range PD ship (Gauss turrets, or Railguns, or whatever).The 2 Deux-Sevres are unidentified (so far) We now know they are short ranged missile boats. The biggest EM emitter seems to be the Missile ships. It looks like there is no dedicated AWACS ship."
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I agree.
On top of that, I think that if they had missiles in the tubes left they would have been firing them at us much earlier. We did have smaller mini salvos coming in interleaved with the big 140 missile spreads. Maybe that was the Deux-Sevres?
On top of that, I think that if they had missiles in the tubes left they would have been firing them at us much earlier. We did have smaller mini salvos coming in interleaved with the big 140 missile spreads. Maybe that was the Deux-Sevres?
The AMMs aren’t relevant against the gunships, as they lack any ECCM
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I'm talking about anti ship missiles being fired in smaller groups. Not AMM.
I am aware that the main calculations are focused on the ASM, I just meant that AMM is not a factor here at all, so smaller AMM ships can be simply ignored by the gunships while they take down the more critical targets.
As I see it, if we can take out the Lot-et-Garrone ships, the gunships look to be capable of taking the rest of their fleet alone.
P.S. I think the Emotion shields are 229 points per https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-aurora-forum-game-v2-5.1621469/post-29810581 so there is a non-zero risk involved here, though I would consider it acceptable.
As I see it, if we can take out the Lot-et-Garrone ships, the gunships look to be capable of taking the rest of their fleet alone.
P.S. I think the Emotion shields are 229 points per https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-aurora-forum-game-v2-5.1621469/post-29810581 so there is a non-zero risk involved here, though I would consider it acceptable.
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What's the difference between those three types of boats then, if they all have 7 tubes?
Res 1 is rhe finest res you can get, right?
Did it lead to any new insights?
I thought they had too bad fire control for 200 Gm missiles.
How would we know that? Wait until we dismantle the wrecks.
That was how we learned WHICH ships fired the missiles.
According to theory. Again, how would we know?
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