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How many people have died on all sides so far? What's the manpower situation ir rhe axis and russian?
The game is not very good at tracking such things as total casualties and the overview graphs it provides are famously inaccurate. :( And I think the manpower figures for other countries are not accurate either in the espionage screens unless you have a good number of spies - but I will have a look and see if there’s any useful data. :)
 
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Some feedback on the couple of responses so far (he ventures hopefully). I know this can be a slow time of the year on the forums, but there was a fair bit packed into that 'double episode' so I will wait for a while longer before starting on the next session and update in the hope of having a little more discussion in the meantime. Need to update my Rome AAR yet anyway and have some Test Cricket to attend tomorrow!

very good news from the industrial front.
Yes, those aircraft will be very welcome, and will release plenty of IC as well for some new high-value projects.
We must be somehow more scary than Italy for some reason???
I know, but as we're not in the same faction, their AI remains suspicious of us in Iraq. Can't imagine why! :p
They should leave this sector to us and the young men thirsty to fight some Nazis and go help close the Baja de Arama gap (which sounds more Spanish than Romanian :) )
Given how badly we were hit there earlier, I'm glad of the Soviet screen there - they have the manpower to absorb the losses and the units to cover a broad front. If the'ye eventually driven back, our new line will be very well prepared. And if they attack between your division and Beograd (quite on the cards too) we'll soon have plenty of action, but may be able to switch another 1 or two units from the south if necessary. And yes, Baja de Arama sounds like it should be in Mexico!
How they can have so many air wings? We have to surpass them somehow.
Ah, we will equal them soon - and with some better aircraft, too (@El Pip will be relieved to hear ;)).
hahahahah nice one :) you can just call it a bağlama though, calling it a bağlama saz would be too academic :)


and I like this as well :) For a joyful but classical bağlama song from Ankara region by a master you can try this:

and a modern popular one during an Ankara wedding:

lastly, an incredibly tacky one:
around the 1 minute mark the lyrics say "god has given you goods (meaning buttocks in slang) like a German bomb, shake and throw it to the ground like the (dead and bald) head of a sheriff"

all these 3 were from the Ankara region with bağlama, as every region has different and characteristic music of its own.
Noted, and thanks for the extra bağlama clips! :D
is this the doing of thorn? I'm seeing it under every bush.
Or behind every pot plant :p. Hmm, good question, but it may take some time to play out. ;)
Great news indeed! and if the momentum continues, suddenly the German salient in north Romania can turn into a pocket.
It seems to swing from one half of the line to the other every month or two - I'm encouraged that the Axis can't maintain a general offensive and advance across the whole front. In terms of war duration, ATL is now really more on a par with late OTL 1942 than 1941. And Winter is Coming (to coin an expression ;)).
First of all, the Comintern is doinbg really well and the defence of Romania and Ukraine is very encouraging.
Yes, it's been a bit up and down the last few months, but recent signs on the Patriotic Front have been encouraging - with General Winter about to take command. Not so much in the Far East, though. Or North Africa ...
And with the fall of Alexandria this foolish war took another massive blow to the British. They look like idiots and cowards on land, whilst dominating at sea mostly because (from an outside perspective) everyone else is so awful at naval combat. This desert war and its failures is probably the key reason why the Americans have yet to come to our aid. Their best natural ally is struggling to defeat an exhausted and outnumbered army with no supplies and no hope of rescue or relief. No wonder they dont want to join their side.
It really has been a limp war from the British (except on the seas, which you expect against an AI Axis). :(:rolleyes:
The fall of Suez would be troubling for world trade and deeply embarising/annoying for the brits but at the same time, the axis navy no longer really exists and they have no trade fleet so...really it doesn't actually change much. If anything, the brits will have to commit to a large offensive either somewhere else or in africa to get that back due to public demand, which is better for us than this slow death.
At this point I don't know if they can hold the Axis and, without the Suez navigable, I have no easy access to Saudi Arabia, with the British and Iraqis refusing me land access. A bit of a worry.
How many people have died on all sides so far? What's the manpower situation ir rhe axis and russian?
The game is not very good at tracking such things as total casualties and the overview graphs it provides are famously inaccurate. :( And I think the manpower figures for other countries are not accurate either in the espionage screens unless you have a good number of spies - but I will have a look and see if there’s any useful data. :)
Unless anyone has any idea of how to get reliable figures on these from the game, I'm afraid this will have to remain a moot point. :(
More comments welcome in the meantime: plenty happening at the moment, happy to discuss or explain (without spoilers of course) any aspects raised, take comments or advice on future strategies. :) Thanks all for your support (I know people are at least still reading from the view counter).
 
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oh the horror!

I know, but as we're not in the same faction, their AI remains suspicious of us in Iraq. Can't imagine why! :p
well it's not a secret that we'd like to have Iraq, on the other hand Italy is the one actively in a war against them and walking freely towards Baghdad.

Say the worst happened and axis is about to walk to our soft southern underbelly which is through northern Iraq. How long before that happens we need to pull some troops from somewhere and direct them to east Anatolia and west Iran? what is our trigger for that, when Italy gets Baghdad for example? or when they enter Iraq?
 
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well it's not a secret that we'd like to have Iraq, on the other hand Italy is the one actively in a war against them and walking freely towards Baghdad.

Say the worst happened and axis is about to walk to our soft southern underbelly which is through northern Iraq. How long before that happens we need to pull some troops from somewhere and direct them to east Anatolia and west Iran? what is our trigger for that, when Italy gets Baghdad for example? or when they enter Iraq?

Great for the imperialists in our ranks for an excuse to grab Iraq and more of the Middle East but be real here, we don't have the troops for this shit. What we really don't want it Germany somehow getting troops to support Italy when they notice they've kicked the British out of North Africa and they both decide it'd be fun to hit us from the Middle East. What I really want is for either the British to grow a pair and kick the stupid fascists out of their Empire or for Italy to take Egypt and see that it is good, then turn around and sail down the Nile to fight the South Africans. Better them than us, and really if there's one thing that could screw up their campaign it would be the Boers.

If the Axis make it into the Middle East and the Japanese advance does not halt in Siberia, this war may be lost before we can truly stabilise the patriotic front and start a push to Berlin. Basically the Italians need to focus on taking all of Africa first, the Japanese need to be halted somehow in taking Russia or the Allies need to show up in force somewhere and secure one of these fronts.
 
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The line is holding! Ukraine and Romania seem to have been reinforced at the cost of the Northern part of the front once again. For the Glorious Union, this is great news...

Too bad about the Turkish bombers. Those damned Hungarian fighters. Turkey needs more fighters, but I understand more are in production. The Turkish Air force must keep trying, poking at the enemy from the air, as soon as air units have been reinforced once more. Those Hungarian fighters can't be everywhere at once, and any fighter attention pulled away from the VVS is welcome, and will allow the VVS to do more.

I'm somewhat saddened that mili sef doesn't share my joy in relation to the great Soviet victory in Ljubinje.

The Far East remains a problem, but that front is still very far away...

Krasnij Kavkaz was a rustbucket anyway, but Kirov is another matter, some significant investment went into the construction of a brand new Heavy Cruiser design. Sad to see it be sunken so soon. At least the Italians have also lost one of their rustbuckets.

Thank you for the music, I had a lot of fun dancing to it on a vodka-fuelled night.

keep holding the line, Turkey is definitely pulling its weight!

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Thank you for the music, I had a lot of fun dancing to it on a vodka-fuelled night.
did you try my contrubution as well? :D
 
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The Italian cruiser RM Carlo Alberto (CA) was the second of two Vettor Pisani-class armoured cruisers built for the Royal Italian Navy (Regia Marina) in the 1890s. The ship was virtually inactive during Great War I and was converted into a troop transport in 1917–18. [In OTL, Carlo Alberto was stricken from the Navy List in 1920 and subsequently broken up for scrap. Not sure what it is doing in here. Perhaps they ran out of ship names and dredged up old ones.]!
Game files indicate that Carlo Alberto is second up as the name for any Heavy Cruisers the Italians build, so the Italian AI has decided it needs more CAs and has been building some. Not the best choice, but I suppose it has to do something in response to the RN sweeping the Med clean.

There should also be an RN Marco Polo around somewhere. They could be quite handy ships, the Zara class were good and you would hope the Italians have incorporated lessons learns to make the follows up even better. That said they will have been built by the disinterested, crewed by the unwilling, officered by the untrained and commanded by the incompetent, so they are probably not long for this world regardless of how good the design is on paper.
 
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Game files indicate that Carlo Alberto is second up as the name for any Heavy Cruisers the Italians build, so the Italian AI has decided it needs more CAs and has been building some. Not the best choice, but I suppose it has to do something in response to the RN sweeping the Med clean.

There should also be an RN Marco Polo around somewhere. They could be quite handy ships, the Zara class were good and you would hope the Italians have incorporated lessons learns to make the follows up even better. That said they will have been built by the disinterested, crewed by the unwilling, officered by the untrained and commanded by the incompetent, so they are probably not long for this world regardless of how good the design is on paper.

Oh good we're sinking the navy faster than they can come up with names for ships.
 
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well it's not a secret that we'd like to have Iraq, on the other hand Italy is the one actively in a war against them and walking freely towards Baghdad.

Say the worst happened and axis is about to walk to our soft southern underbelly which is through northern Iraq. How long before that happens we need to pull some troops from somewhere and direct them to east Anatolia and west Iran? what is our trigger for that, when Italy gets Baghdad for example? or when they enter Iraq?
I'd be pulling some out a bit before then - probably if the Suez fell and the Italians kept advancing through Palestine. A full defence would mean sacrificing the Balkans, withdrawing early to the Iskandar-Calistar Line, and using the units freed up to counteract the Italians - perhaps even by rolling through Syria (ie DoW on Vichy) and starting to add some more territory to the Glorious Union. We will see how things are turning in the Middle East in the next episode, which is about to be published. :)
Game files indicate that Carlo Alberto is second up as the name for any Heavy Cruisers the Italians build, so the Italian AI has decided it needs more CAs and has been building some. Not the best choice, but I suppose it has to do something in response to the RN sweeping the Med clean.

There should also be an RN Marco Polo around somewhere. They could be quite handy ships, the Zara class were good and you would hope the Italians have incorporated lessons learns to make the follows up even better. That said they will have been built by the disinterested, crewed by the unwilling, officered by the untrained and commanded by the incompetent, so they are probably not long for this world regardless of how good the design is on paper.
Thought it might have been something like that. I think anything they build now will just be expensive target ships for British naval and air power in the Med. That, at least, they are good at applying. :)
Oh good we're sinking the navy faster than they can come up with names for ships.
Indeed - a good metric. It should make Italy's position in North Africa more precarious, but not exactly sure how much it is impacting their logistics in-game. With Malta still in British hands and their fleet largely gone, they should be having big problems keeping in supply. But I've never played as Italy, so am not really sure.

All: am about to publish the next chapter soon. Should be up in an hour or two. Thanks for the comments and support - they really do make the writing a pleasure and easier to sustain. :)
 
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Chapter 148: The Sinews of War (1 to 16 October 1941)
Chapter 148: The Sinews of War (1 to 16 October 1941)

This episode pays particular attention to the ‘Three Rs’: Reinforcement, Research … and Revenge! While there is some combat on the Yeniçeri-Danube Line, things happening in factories and political back rooms prove equally important. And there is of course news of the wider conflict in the Second Great War – in the Far East and North Africa, where the Axis has been running rampant.

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1 Oct 41

Reports of an ill-timed revolt by Yugoslavian nationalist guerrillas are received in the early hours of the morning. They have risen up in Bitola, right next door to one of Turkey’s militia garrisons on the Blue Line. A fatal error. The Skopje Garrison is sent to search and destroy.

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The partisans were engaged within the hour, caught unprepared and unable to offer any meaningful resistance.

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At the same time, in far-away Iran, 1.13 Inf Bde arrived in Khash and began attacking the Persian Nationalists in Iranshahr.

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And simultaneously, reports are received of Axis divisions on the move in Ruma and Zrenjanin to attack Beograd across the Sava and Danube Rivers. Contact is expected at any moment. But the expected battle turns out to be nothing but a probe – it is broken off almost immediately, despite there being four Axis divisions involved, including the notorious SS-Verf.

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And in Iranshahr, despite having had days to prepare, the nationalists also prove completely unready for battle.

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In Bitola, the guerrillas simply dispersed into the countryside at 5am before any real battle was fought, with no casualties on either side. The same outcome was reported in Iranshahr an hour later. The two units would now move to restore order in the respective provinces.

The Italians began launching air raids on Beograd at 8am, with two wings of TAC bombers attacking. They continued that day even though the attack was broken off. After the second of these raids, Beograd’s defending fighter wings (all now fully rested and repaired) were ordered to intercept any more enemy aircraft that challenged the city’s air space. As it happened, none did, but the orders remained in force in case any returned.

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Air Report. Two Italian air raids caused 337 Turkish casualties in Beograd.

News Report: Moscow, USSR. The Moscow Conference has ended. The United States agreed to supply the Soviets with $1 billion worth of arms and equipment. The delegates had flown into Moscow on 28 September. W. Averell Harriman represented the US and Lord Beaverbrook represented the UK, hosted by Maxim Litvinov (Soviet Minister of Foreign Affairs). Vyacheslav Molotov was also present, attending as a delegate, and acted as translator. [In OTL the roles of Molotov and Litvinov were reversed]. An official communique was released following closed session meetings:

The formal opening of the Three-Power Moscow Conference took place this morning under the presidency of Minister Maxim Litvinov. In his opening address he paid high tribute to Lord Beaverbrook and to Mr. Averell Harriman. 'I hope,' he said, 'that the conference will be guided by the high ideals expressed by President Roosevelt and Mr. Churchill on August 15. I would suggest that today we appoint six committees - army, navy, aviation, transport, raw materials, and medical supplies. Time is precious. Let us get to work.'

A joint statement was issued by Lord Beaverbrook and Avril Harriman, separate from the conference communique. The closing paragraph stated:

In concluding its session the conference adheres to the resolution of the three governments that, after the final annihilation of Nazi tyranny, a peace will be established which will enable the world to live in security in its own territory in conditions free from fear or need.

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Averell Harriman, Lord Beaverbrook and Maxim Litvinov, Moscow Conference, 1 October 1941.

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2 Oct 41

Great news was received by the Milli Şef in his midnight reports: after much fighting over the last four and a half years, from Bulgaria in early 1937 through to the Patriotic Front in late 1941, the Turkish Army had achieved veteran status. This would boost leadership generation and organisation. Huzzah!

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Also in his reports was the news that the first of the new La-5 multi-role fighter wings had finished production and training. They arrived in Beograd to begin work-up training for battle-readiness. The second wing was also almost ready.

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The production of the new fighter wings meant considerable production capacity in Turkey’s aircraft factories was released: it was decided to order another wing of the Yak-4 TAC bombers, to be built on license. They would take around a year to produce and would be expensive, so best to start now.

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At 3am, a report from Soviet military liaison revealed than their forces in Herceg Novi (plains) on the Adriatic Coast had been driven out by a German attack. Two hours later, HQ 3rd Corps completed its return to the front, arriving to augment the defences of Velico Gradiste [their militia brigade was back to around 26/33 organisation]. And at 3pm, Air Force MAJGEN Gataly [Skill 1, another officer with an Army ‘twin brother’] took command of the La-5s of 4 Avci Filo in Beograd.

OTL: Eastern Front. The Battle of Moscow began. Adolf Hitler issued a message to the German troops on the Eastern Front declaring, "Today begins the last great, decisive battle of this year."

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3 Oct 41

Gataly also took charge of 5 Avci Filo – more of the new La-5s – which were delivered early that day. The unified command would be known as 4. Fighter Group. [They are the only aircraft type in Turkish service with two wings, therefore with the same speed and range, so I’m keeping them together for now. @diskoerekto, if you have a Turkish language equivalent for ‘fighter group’ I’ll rename them accordingly. :)]

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Entertainment News: New York, US. The film noir The Maltese Falcon starring Humphrey Bogart and Mary Astor premiered in New York City.

(2:39min)
Official trailer for the Maltese Falcon.

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4 Oct 41

The clock struck twelve - and a Japanese spy was duly caught and loaded onto the Midnight Express. The Japanese were (as always) being very persistent in their efforts to infiltrate the Glorious Union. No mercy would be shown.

Also at midnight, the Soviets reported on two attacks they were conducting in Romania at present. Whether one, both or neither of these succeeded, they were certainly demonstrating an aggressive mindset: Romania would not be surrendered without a tough fight, it would seem.

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At 8am, the Germans marched back into Herceg Novi. It was unclear whether the Soviets would attempt to recover it. After another relatively quiet day on the wider Yeniçeri-Danube Line, at 8pm HQ 1st Corps reported its arrival in Pozarevac. This meant both that province and the neighbouring Velico Gradiste now had garrisons of two regular Turkish divisions and a reinforced HQ each.

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5 Oct 41

With production now running at close to full capacity on the new Yak-4s for 3 TAK, it was estimated they should be delivered in around one year: mid-October 1942. And at 7pm that evening, the Soviets reported they had decided to counter-attack Herceg Novi after all, with two fresh rifle divisions attacking from the mountains of Cevo to its north-east.

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6 Oct 41

OTL: Eastern Front. German forces reached Berdyansk on the Sea of Azov (Ukraine, twelve provinces distant from the ATL front line).

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7 Oct 41

Another Japanese spy boarded the Midnight Express. Every Kempeitai operative captured was assured of a painful and merciless interrogation, before summary execution. Er, 'neutralisation'. :rolleyes:

That afternoon 1.13 Inf Bde successfully subdued Iranshahr and headed south to reoccupy Chabahar, where the uprising had originated.

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OTL: Eastern Front. Army Group Centre encountered snowfall for the first time in their drive on Moscow. 7th and 10th Panzer Divisions completed the encirclement of Soviet forces at Vyazma (Viaz’ma) (between Smolensk and Moscow, 11 provinces distant from the ATL front).

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8 Oct 41

“Miss Perse, Miss Perse!” It is an excited Mustapha the Staffer [I know, I know! :p] from the Propaganda Department. He is carrying a magazine.

“Look at the latest issue of the British Picture Post, Miss Perse! You are even more famous now!” And just as lovely as ever, he thinks to himself wistfully, sadly realising her countryman Tom Rosencrantz seems to have the inside running to Perse’s affections.

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An actual cover from August 1941, barely changed to chime in with the ATL narrative.

Perse’s position as the expat Editor-in-Chief of the English-Language Istanbul Times (now a major international paper of record during the Second Great War) and also as the ‘poster girl’ for the Turkish Air Force, has excited the interest not just of the lovelorn and unrequited Mustapha, but also of the press back in her native England. Not to mention thousands of virile Turkish airmen.

“Oh, my word, that is very flattering,” Perse says as she batts her eyelashes modestly – but knowingly.

And thousands of kilometres away, on a peaceful and sun-drenched Waikiki beach, B.J. Guildenstern breaks into a broad smile as he is delivered a copy himself, air mailed in at his request when he heard of the piece. She has done well for herself, he thought as he lounged back and sipped another daiquiri.

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B.J. Guildenstern, enjoying his ‘retirement’ in Hawaii, is seen here carrying his copy of the October 1941 Picture Post magazine featuring his erstwhile off-sider Persephonee Fotheringay-Phipps.

Diplomatic Reporting: Moscow, USSR. U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt sent Stalin a short message stating that he was "confident that ways will be found to provide the material and supplies necessary to fight Hitler on all fronts, including your own. I want particularly to take this occasion to express my great confidence that your armies will ultimately prevail over Hitler and to assure you of our great determination to be of every possible material assistance."

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A US lend-lease convoy bound for the Soviet Union, October 1941.
[In-game, the actuality has begun to match the contemporaneous OTL rhetoric: I checked for verisimilitude, and there is indeed a lend-lease program already in operation. None from the British, though: but they are making a healthy contribution to Turkey’s war effort, which prevents us being too critical of their abject failures in North Africa!]

OTL: Eastern Front. The Germans captured Mariupol on the Sea of Azov (13 provinces distant) and Orel (southwest of Moscow, 17 provinces distant).

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9 Oct 41

Regular Security Cabinet Meeting, Ankara, 9am

PM Celal Bayar presides, with Foreign Minister Aras, Interior Minister Kaya, Intelligence Chief Ögel and Supreme Commander FM Calistar in attendance. After the principals take their seats and exchange a few obligatory pleasantries, some armed security guards under Bayar’s command enter the room. They roll their shoulders conspicuously as they take up position, indicating to all present that they are wearing shoulder holsters. Two of them stand directly behind Kaya – who looks distinctly uncomfortable: these are not his goons and he was not aware beforehand they were going to be there.

After a difficult pause, Aras puts on his most innocent expression and says “Kaya, good day; what means this armed guard that waits upon you?”

In fact, this move is his doing: the Foreign Ministry official implicating (falsely for once, as it happens) Kaya in a plot against Ögel and of undermining the President was acting under the orders of his boss, Aras. This is a power play – revenge for Kaya’s uncalled for harassment of his Ministry in recent months.

It is Bayar who answers the question: “I have appointed these agents of the Presidential Security Guard for Kaya’s, ah, personal safety. They will soon escort him to a confidential location, for some friendly discussions over certain matters.”

“Upon what cause?” Aras asks, appearing to take Kaya’s side. He assumes Kaya will think it is probably Ögel who has engineered this, or some other player, domestic or foreign.

“Because my name is Kaya, I suspect,” says he, fumbling for one of his apoplexy tablets as his face starts to turn beetroot red.

“Alas, Kaya, that fault is none of yours,” says Aras, laying it on just a little thick. “Perhaps the Prime Minister has some intent to see you safe there or given a new appointment. What's the matter, Kaya? May I know?”

“Aras, I’ll tell you when I know; for I protest as yet I do not: but, as I can learn, the President hearkens after prophecies and rumours and from thin air pulls the letter K. And says an informant told him that by 'K' deposed he would be; and, for my name of Kaya begins with K, it follows in his thought that I am he. These, as I learn, and such like toys as these have moved the Milli Şef to commit me now.”

“Why, this it is, when men are ruled by informants: 'tis not the President that sends you to the interrogation but someone else, perhaps the rumoured Thorn that tempers him to this extremity. We are not safe, Kaya; we are not safe!” Aras looks to introduce as many red herrings as he can.

“By Atatürk, I think there's no man is secure, but the Thorn's agents and night-walking heralds that trudge between the President and his British masters,” agrees Kaya hotly - his face matching his words.

“I'll tell you what Kaya; I think it is our way, if we will keep in favour with the President, to be his men and support him fully.”

“That is enough, gentlemen,” interjects Bayar, having let the two have their say, while Ögel keeps his silence – though he looks very happy at his opponent’s discomfort. "The Milli Şef has directly given in charge that no man shall have private conference, of what degree soever, with Minister Kaya. And this begins to border on it.”

“Even so; and may it please you, Prime Minister,” tries Aras once more. “You may partake of anything we say: we speak no treason. We say the President is wise and virtuous. How say you sir? Can you deny this?”

“These charges are none of my doing, Aras. We are the President’s Ministers and must obey.”

Aras turns to Kaya: “Kaya, farewell: I will unto the President and whatsoever you will employ me in, I will perform it to support you. Meantime, this deep disgrace in brotherhood touches me deeper than you can imagine.”

“I know it pleases neither of us well,” says Kaya sadly as he is led off.

“Well, your imprisonment shall not be long,” assures Aras. “Meantime, have patience.”

“I must perforce. Farewell.”

Aras is of course secretly delighted at Kaya’s predicament. But where will it go, and how far is he prepared to take this gambit? As yet, Kaya has not been relieved of his post, he is just ‘taking a leave of absence’. And Kaya believes Aras to be his friend and advocate – rather than the very architect of his troubles!

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Celal Bayar (left) and Kaya (centre) at the Security Cabinet meeting of 3 October 1941. The security guards had not yet entered at this point.

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10 Oct 41

Observers report a heavy enemy build-up on the north bank of the Danube from Velico Gradiste (three divisions in each of Vrsac and Mehadia) in the early morning. Fortunately, the recent reinforcement of the defence there with HQ 3rd Corps is currently being augmented by a Soviet rifle division – though how long they will stay is of course unknown. Is this the start of another attack? Or a false alarm?

The Skopje Garrison finishes pacifying Bitola mid-afternoon and heads back to its Blue Line defence of the city it is named for. Having these second-line units in depth has thus proven useful for rear area security as well as possible future delaying defence.

OTL: Eastern Front. Georgy Zhukov was called from Leningrad to Moscow to take command of the capital's defence.

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11 Oct 41

A new ‘standard’ division [3 x INF, 1 x ART], designated as 18 Inf Div, is delivered to Cuprija. It will supplement the Danube Line reserve there (3 Cav Div is the mobile reserve) while it works itself up to combat readiness. With the coming influx of new divisions and three Soviet EFs not yet slotted into the chain of command, a new Corps HQ is raised. The 5th ‘Comintern’ Corps in Cuprija will again have no commander (like the 4th), and HQ 1st Army has already filled its span of control. But this at least lets the units in the Turkish and Soviet formations in the new corps tap into 1st Army Group’s chain of command. The independent AT brigade already in Cuprija is attached to the new HQ.

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With more industrial capacity freed up, and a TD and T-34 brigades already in the production queue, two more motorised brigades are commissioned from the Soviets (Turkey is still some way off from being able to produce its own, though it is steadily approaching that threshold).

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OTL: Eastern Front. The Soviet government announced the evacuation from Moscow of all women and children not engaged in war work. [Comment: no such problem in this timeline – yet, anyway.]

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12 Oct 41

At midnight another of the series of new infantry divisions is brought onto the orbat: it is renamed as 19 Inf Div and sent to train-up in Sjenica, becoming a reserve for the Yeniçeri Line and slotting in to the 5th Corps command, which is now already full. The new HQ and units have significantly reduced the officer ratio [down from 114% just a few days ago, but still above 100%].

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They are replaced on the production line with two more mountain brigades: with one in the queue already, this would allow all three of the mountain divisions to be topped up to five brigades when the time comes – or a new triangular mountain division to be raised in the interim, if needed. The excess production capacity is put into supplies for now: it will be used later for another project.

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A polite request to the British Mediterranean Command for an update on the perilous situation at the Suez Canal is met with a report at 5am. The Italians have taken Bur Sa’id, but the British 2nd Marine Division had by now arrived in Romani and is conducting a counter-attack across the Canal, with heavy air support from RAF Spitfires and Wellington bombers. It looks like it should succeed against relatively weak opposition, with the marines' specialist training, equipment and engineer support minimising the penalty for attacking across a major body of water [classed as an amphib attack]. Other Iraqi divisions are also moving into place. At last, some action is being taken! A few more regular British divisions would surely enable the whole tide of the campaign to be reversed.

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A British Supermarine Spitfire Mk.IX multi-role fighter in desert colours, Bur Sai’d, Egypt, 12 October 1941.

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A Vickers-Armstrong Wellington Mk.III tactical bomber on its way to attack Italian ground troops in Bur Sa’id, also on 12 October 1941.

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13 Oct 41

The third of the month’s new Turkish infantry divisions, ordered at the height of alarm over Axis advances in the Balkans earlier in the year, arrived in Arandelovac on the Danube Line that morning. The redesignated 20 Inf Div would work-up in place, bringing the defence there to two divisions and a reinforced HQ, like those to its east [while the officer ratio was now down to 104%]. With no spare formation HQs left to assign it to for now, it was allocated to the Supreme Command HQ.

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While this added to the spare industrial capacity on hand, the next diplomatic mission to Moscow could not be sent until 18 October, so the intended license purchase would have to wait. The spare capacity was temporarily directed to more supply production [now up to 16.39 IC, with over 88,000 units of supply in the stockpile].

At 1pm, the Soviets reported they had successfully driven the Axis back out of Herceg Novi – they are nothing if not persistent and they continue to distract and damage the mangy Axis curs in the south. Vur ha!

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OTL: Eastern Front. German forces captured Kalinin northwest of Moscow (14 provinces distant). Kaluga southwest of Moscow fell to the Germans (15 provinces distant).

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14 Oct 41

MI6 Headquarters, London, 11am

A Top Secret file is passed to the Director of the Turkey Section at MI6 HQ. The identity of their agent in Turkey is not revealed anywhere in the report: very few know their true identity. It contains a summary of some recent high-level jockeying in the leadership of the Glorious Union. The Thorn's actions are deemed (by MI6 at least) to be excused from the ‘no aggressive espionage’ agreement between the two co-belligerents, as it is based on ‘passively' acquired information, gossip and rumour. Though the information has a good degree of reliability and much comes from 'highly placed sources’.

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'Trouble in the Glorious Paradise'

We have it on good authority that Interior Minister Şükrü Kaya, architect of the infamous Midnight Express counter-espionage operation that has ‘neutralised’ so many of our Arabic allied operatives in recent times, has been held incommunicado and under interrogation somewhere in Ankara for the last few days. We understand he has not been purged – yet, anyway – but his future remains under a cloud.

Rumour has it he has been implicated in various plots, ranging from a conspiracy to have his main rival in the security apparatus – Şükrü Ögel – eliminated, to a supposed attempt to undermine and perhaps even displace President Ismet Inönü. Had any of this evidence been conclusive, he would already have been eliminated, either through a show trial or due to ‘pre-existing health concerns’ (he suffers from a well-known condition of apoplexy, for which he takes medication). The method of his putative removal would depend on the kind of message and image the regime would wish to project.

On the other hand, had the allegations been obviously unconvincing, he would not have been brought in for questioning. I stress that none of this has been done by my hand: Kaya has made many enemies in the Turkish Government and it could come from any one of them – or even a coalition of them who wish to either damage him or have him removed. And while it could be superficially convenient for our interests to see him sidelined or ‘neutralised’, as he has done to so many foreign agents, it would be naïve to expect any replacement would be any better for us.

It does mean that the British Government in general, or my rumoured activities in particular, may also be drawn into the maelstrom of allegation and innuendo as paranoid Turkish intelligence operators indulge in wild conspiracy theories. It may be in our interests to imply Italian Mafia involvement – they are a lightning rod for Turkish hatred and suspicion. And if they wish to blame foreign interests, better them than us.

I will report any further information that appears worth relating. In the meantime, this should have no direct impact on our relationship with either Ögel, the S.I.T.H. or the intelligence sharing arrangement we have operating with the Turks. But I suggest we provide regular and useful updates to them to help further deflect any collateral suspicion that may come our way. And our heavy lend-lease program should keep them from any serious allegations, whether they suspect us or not.


'The Thorn'

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15 Oct 41

An Afghan spy in Ankara tried to sell one dodgy carpet too many: a check of his documents found some inconsistencies. A short, one-way and ultimately gruesome trip on the Midnight Express led to his prompt ‘neutralisation’. Not before he was subjected to intense questioning about The Thorn – of whom he was, of course, utterly ignorant.

OTL: Eastern Front. The Germans reached Mozhaysk, west of Moscow (12 provinces distant from the ATL front, only four from Moscow). Most of the Soviet government evacuated Moscow, although Stalin remained in the capital.

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16 Oct 41

An important technical advance was completed: the well-used cavalry arm was further improved and Turkish ability to produce its own motorised infantry came a step closer. The last of the cavalry equipment improvements that would ultimately permit motorised infantry brigades to be researched was commenced. But mechanised infantry would remain indefinitely beyond Turkish reach, as a basic medium tank brigade could not even be researched. That line of research had never been pursued. Any future mechanised force would have to await development of that arm by the Soviets for export by license. In addition, the benefit from the 'Veteran Army' event plus some other internal leadership adjustments were applied to increase officer training, where the ratio had been depleted by the arrival of recent reinforcements.

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Mid-Month Situation Summaries

The maps below reflect positions as at midday on 16 October 1941. The Patriotic Front again shows mixed results. Romania and the southern Ukraine continue to improve a little, but the rest indicate a see-saw struggle.

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Winter is coming, but is not yet here. This Weather Report shows sample conditions in plains provinces on the five main sectors of the Front. Plus a graph of what the Germans can expect in November and December.

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The Northern Sector is particularly interesting at the mid-point of the month. The Germans have broken out and are threatening Tallinn, but to the south of that the Soviets are attacking, threatening both the base of the German salient and even Riga. The situation looks fluid.

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(3:55min)
All arms in action on the Patriotic Front – some footage from our Comintern Partners of fierce fighting to throw back the Hitlerite invaders, October 1941.

The Far East is far in the east - and thankfully so. Enough said.

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And in Egypt, in better news than we have been used to, the British counter-attack on Bur Sa’id has succeeded. The (two-brigade) 8th Inf Div has been sent on trucks from Bur Sa’id for a long left hook to the south of Cairo (which remains in British hands) to perhaps threaten the Italian supply lines through Alexandria. The 1st and 3rd Iraqi Divisions are now in place and defending the west bank of the Suez Canal. To be assured of success in now pushing the Italians back, the Turkish High Command assesses another 3-4 divisions, including some armour and motorised formations, would be desirable, but the situation does now seem to have been stabilised at least.

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A postcard from March 1941 of Mohamed Aly Square in Alexandria: it must be rescued from the Fascist’s filthy grip. Let us hope our British co-belligerents are now up to the task!

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Coming Up: Can the southern part of the Patriotic Front continue to hold firm against the Axis of Evil? When will General Winter make his entrance in Russia? Can the Soviets stem the attempted German breakthrough in the old Baltic States – or even turn it to their advantage and pocket some over-extended German divisions? Will winter slow down the Japanese and their clients in the Far East and how close are the Americans to entering the war directly? Can the British not only hold the Suez Canal and regain Alexandria, but also throw the Italians all the way back to their starting point in Libya? What in Atatürk’s name is going on in the back rooms of Ankara? Will The Thorn break cover – or be compromised? Finally, what kind of business proposition will Vittorio Corleone put to Don Fanucci in Naples – has Cennet backed the right man there?
 
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Another fulfilling and great episode, thanks :)

And simultaneously, reports are received of Axis divisions on the move in Ruma and Zrenjanin to attack Beograd across the Sava and Danube Rivers. Contact is expected at any moment. But the expected battle turns out to be nothing but a probe – it is broken off almost immediately, despite there being four Axis divisions involved, including the notorious SS-Verf.
this can't be very good, signal of things to come :/

Great news was received by the Milli Şef in his midnight reports: after much fighting over the last four and a half years, from Bulgaria in early 1937 through to the Patriotic Front in late 1941, the Turkish Army had achieved veteran status. This would boost leadership generation and organisation. Huzzah!
a status earned by the blood of our many martyrs. Great boosts though :)

Gataly also took charge of 5 Avci Filo – more of the new La-5s – which were delivered early that day. The unified command would be known as 4. Fighter Group. [They are the only aircraft type in Turkish service with two wings, therefore with the same speed and range, so I’m keeping them together for now. @diskoerekto, if you have a Turkish language equivalent for ‘fighter group’ I’ll rename them accordingly. :)]
This is a little bit tricky. Literal translation would be 4. Avcı Grubu which hasn't been used officially but sounds correct. In real life, there are ana jet üs komutanlığı which means main jet base command and under it fleets (filo) so it's like 1. Ana Jet Üs Komutanlığı, Eskişehir and under it a number of filo's. We can't use the "base" thing because it implies a connection to a physical base, and fleets are directly attached to bases. The thing is though, the size of a fleet is not really very static. So an in game single fleet and multiple fleets would probably be called as filo anyway. Of course 5 Avcı Filo has some grammatical issues, it should be 5. Avcı Filosu for example. If we didn't specify what kind of fleet, it would've been 5. Filo or if it was bombers it would've been 5. Bombardıman Filosu. I think we can use the same notation for fleets and groups. We're calling some divisions brigade anyway (division: tümen, brigade: tugay hence I am the acting commander of 3rd mountain commando brigade 6th brigade) but the naming of different levels across Turkish and English has always been a little fluid. Long story short, I think it's fitting to call them 4. Avcı Filosu or 4. Avcı Grubu depending on your taste :)

Also at midnight, the Soviets reported on two attacks they were conducting in Romania at present. Whether one, both or neither of these succeeded, they were certainly demonstrating an aggressive mindset: Romania would not be surrendered without a tough fight, it would seem.
This is the spirit. Comrade Skitalec convinced the STAVKA of the importance of this part of the front, it seems :)

Celal Bayar (left) and Kaya (centre) at the Security Cabinet meeting of 3 October 1941. The security guards had not yet entered at this point.
It is interesting that the İş Bankası (business bank) clique of the party is so prominent while there are hardly any 5-year-plan people around in the game timeline mostly as OTL but we're allied to Soviets. I'm expecting some tension between İnönü and Bayar for example but this silence between them is I think the aftermath of an unresolved tension.

With more industrial capacity freed up, and a TD and T-34 brigades already in the production queue, two more motorised brigades are commissioned from the Soviets (Turkey is still some way off from being able to produce its own, though it is steadily approaching that threshold).
more cool stuff for us :)

mangy Axis curs
uyuz mihver itleri! something I can see blends in very well with the era and atmosphere of the day when directly translated to Turkish.

Re: Kaya: He, along with Aras, were the 2 names İnönü deposed as soon as he became president after Atatürk's passing. He told his PM Bayar: "Get rid of that duo" and Bayar knew who İnönü was talking about. He's quite a paternalistic character, proponent of forcefully assimilating people and stuff; and he took the control of a lot of things while Atatürk's health was deteriorating to the point of being the shadow president. Many thought he would naturally take Atatürk's place once he passed away, but with Çakmak's help İnönü wrestled the controls of the country from him. This is pure speculation but he would have steered the country towards Axis as opposed to İnönü being friendly with Allies (not only in terms of WW2 military alliances but also in terms of general outlook on politics).
 
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the ‘Three Rs’: Reinforcement, Research … and Revenge!
All equally important, the third being hard to pull off without the first two...

The formal opening of the Three-Power Moscow Conference took place this morning under the presidency of Minister Maxim Litvinov. In his opening address he paid high tribute to Lord Beaverbrook and to Mr. Averell Harriman. 'I hope,' he said, 'that the conference will be guided by the high ideals expressed by President Roosevelt and Mr. Churchill on August 15. I would suggest that today we appoint six committees - army, navy, aviation, transport, raw materials, and medical supplies. Time is precious. Let us get to work.'
This is great news, more lend-lease is always welcome, but of course, a more substantial military commitment from the UK in the Med, and from the US in the Pacific would be even more so.

the Turkish Army had achieved veteran status.
About time. The Turkish armed forces are respected throughout the civilized world for their dedication and effective tactical thinking. They are true veterans.

new La-5 multi-role fighter wings had finished production and training.
it was decided to order another wing of the Yak-4 TAC bombers, to be built on license.
All great news, more fighters to keep the Hungarians off your back, more bombers to support the troops on the ground, and more money for the Soviet Union... (though that last one might be regarded as too capitalist a remark...)

Perse’s position as the expat Editor-in-Chief of the English-Language Istanbul Times (now a major international paper of record during the Second Great War) and also as the ‘poster girl’ for the Turkish Air Force, has excited the interest not just of the lovelorn and unrequited Mustapha, but also of the press back in her native England. Not to mention thousands of virile Turkish airmen.
This is great in so many ways, it places turkey's war effort in the spotlight, increases recruitment for the Turkish Air Force, and it will definitely give Perse and the Istanbul Times a nice veneer of journalistic integrity.

What madness that meeting, the members of the cabinet backstabbing each-other, throwing red herrings, and 'leaves of absence', it's almost like the meetings of the Central Committee of the Communist party of the Soviet Union.

a new Corps HQ is raised. The 5th ‘Comintern’ Corps
A great name for a great new corps...
two more motorised brigades are commissioned from the Soviets
More mobility is definitely a good thing.

The Thorn's actions are deemed (by MI6 at least) to be excused from the ‘no aggressive espionage’ agreement between the two co-belligerents, as it is based on ‘passively' acquired information, gossip and rumour. Though the information has a good degree of reliability and much comes from 'highly placed sources’.
What a load of bull... 'the thorn' is definitely not allowed under the terms of the deal, and I will do what I can to assist the S.I.T.H. in tracking him/her/it/them down for a ride on the midnight express.
They do have a point that Turkey should probably refrain from public accusations of impropriety. The lend-lease is important.

And while it could be superficially convenient for our interests to see him sidelined or ‘neutralised’, as he has done to so many foreign agents, it would be naïve to expect any replacement would be any better for us.
Damn right they won't be any better. Do they even know about Kelebek? Any replacement for Kaya would be another puppet for the dark lord to play with.

An important technical advance was completed: the well-used cavalry arm was further improved and Turkish ability to produce its own motorised infantry came a step closer. The last of the cavalry equipment improvements that would ultimately permit motorised infantry brigades to be researched was commenced. But mechanised infantry would remain indefinitely beyond Turkish reach, as a basic medium tank brigade could not even be researched. That line of research had never been pursued. Any future mechanised force would have to await development of that arm by the Soviets for export by license. In addition, the benefit from the 'Veteran Army' event plus some other internal leadership adjustments were applied to increase officer training, where the ratio had been depleted by the arrival of recent reinforcements.
Great progress on the Mobile front, soon Turkish Motorised troops will have Turkish lorries, and not copies of Soviet ones. Will Turkey fit out existing units with lorries once it has the technology to make that work, or will only new regiments be Motorized? Upgrading existing units might be a good way to increase the effectiveness of existing units, all the while building up a motorized force more quickly.

The Partiotic front isn't looking too bad, better than it's been in a while, more blue arrows than red ones...

Finally, the Royal Marines are doing what they're good at against weak opposition, attacking across large bodies of water, and winning... At least this means the Italians won't interfere the Suez canal, for now...
another 3-4 divisions, including some armour and motorised formations, would be desirable, but the situation does now seem to have been stabilised at least.
Exactly, now there needs to be some follow-up from the British Royal Army...

This was a positive week for the Comintern if we discount the Far East (sic.). Turkey's position got quite a bit better in a short amount of time, with plenty of new planes, and fresh units to shore up the already stable Yeniceri+ line. The Red Army is pushing back the Germans in many places, though not everywhere, of course. Also, Perse was in a foreign magazine.

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The Veteran Army status looks good and the Russian Front is doing...better...? But still don't like how the Japanese are doing! Somebody needs to attack the Japanese. The Chinese, the Americans....anybody! Your North Africa looks slightly better than mine.
 
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But I've never played as Italy, so am not really sure.

Well...in HOI4 I took most of the world just by avoiding the Allies. It ended with a huge build-up along the french border and the world in a mildy cold war. So Italy left on its own can do very well...but they have no answer on the sea.

I checked for verisimilitude, and there is indeed a lend-lease program already in operation. None from the British, though

Of course.

In fact, this move is his doing: the Foreign Ministry official implicating (falsely for once, as it happens) Kaya in a plot against Ögel and of undermining the President was acting under the orders of his boss, Aras. This is a power play – revenge for Kaya’s uncalled for harassment of his Ministry in recent months.

Well...this is unexpected.

“Aras, I’ll tell you when I know; for I protest as yet I do not: but, as I can learn, the President hearkens after prophecies and rumours and from thin air pulls the letter K. And says an informant told him that by 'K' deposed he would be; and, for my name of Kaya begins with K, it follows in his thought that I am he. These, as I learn, and such like toys as these have moved the Milli Şef to commit me now.”

Um...no idea what he's talking about.

A polite request to the British Mediterranean Command for an update on the perilous situation at the Suez Canal is met with a report at 5am.

This had nothing to do with Kelebek's drink with Lord Pip at the Reform Club the night before.

Other Iraqi divisions are also moving into place. At last, some action is being taken! A few more regular British divisions would surely enable the whole tide of the campaign to be reversed.

Huh...they actually could manage it since the italians probably are quite low on supplies by now.

OTL: Eastern Front. German forces captured Kalinin northwest of Moscow (14 provinces distant). Kaluga southwest of Moscow fell to the Germans (15 provinces distant).

We are doing very well compared to OTL.

A Top Secret file is passed to the Director of the Turkey Section at MI6 HQ.

'Top Secret' at the Turkish section meant somethijg quite different than in the rest of the building. Unlike most other 'friendly' nations, the Turks did not send moles and other deep cover agents to crack British security from the inside. That would have been preferable. The British were very good at dealing with them.

Instead, the Turks would send SITH agents into the country at seemingly random intervals for unexplained reasons. It was well-known that their Head, the mysterious Kelebek, somehow never missed a dinner at the three London clubs he was a member of (gender was assumed due to...well, membership). It had also come to their attention through the cabinet office that an unidentified SITH agent managed to have an in-depth discussion over the impressiveness of top secret jet technology with Winston Churchill without anyone noticing. Said agent now periodically sends high quality turkish sweet cigars to Number 10 every Friday through unknown means.

The strangest case was probably the entire interior of the secret records office being painted pink and yellow in a poka-dot pattern. This has made many in the service very paranoid indeed that the SITH are merely 'playing' with us and that should we ever actually take aggressive action against them, the gloves will come off.

It should be noted that SITH seem to have professional respect for our agents and government gven the antics of the Thorn and others. The German Reich has been under attack non-stop by the SITH for some time now. They seem to be trying to bomb the entire German High Command into insanity by 'just missing' them in a variety of outlandish and horrifying assasination attempts that have thus far rendered two generals catatonic with fear and Hitler's inner circle calling for any SITH agent captured to be slowly dropped into an acid bath.

It does mean that the British Government in general, or my rumoured activities in particular, may also be drawn into the maelstrom of allegation and innuendo as paranoid Turkish intelligence operators indulge in wild conspiracy theories. It may be in our interests to imply Italian Mafia involvement – they are a lightning rod for Turkish hatred and suspicion. And if they wish to blame foreign interests, better them than us.

'I should mention that SITH are not as of yet interested in nor technically allowed to intervene in inner state affairs such as this, so at the very least we should be safe from their reprisal should it be ordered. However, I am begining to get the feeling Kelebek and his inner elite know exactly who I am and what I'm doing. Why they have yet to take action is unclear though it is no secret that SITH utterly hates Turkish security and has a very odd respect for anyone who regularly pulls off impressive/amusing things (see the 'Springtime for Hitler affair').

What this means for Britain is unclear. Persobally would advise that Turkey is currently an asset and no real threat to our interests for the forseeable future. SITH is...but they are an international organisation with only loose ties to the Republic now Kemal is dead. If they can be bought or swayed from the communists, we should do it.'
-Thorn

Winter is coming, but is not yet here.

Good! If they can't get far in autumn, they won't do well in winter. And it might stop the Japs as well.

And in Egypt, in better news than we have been used to, the British counter-attack on Bur Sa’id has succeeded.

Oh good.
 
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Another fulfilling and great episode, thanks :)
Thank you.
this can't be very good, signal of things to come :/
Fortunately, this time it was a false alarm.
a status earned by the blood of our many martyrs. Great boosts though :)
Yes, I hadn't been tracking it and it was a pleasant surprise when it happened.
This is a little bit tricky. Literal translation would be 4. Avcı Grubu which hasn't been used officially but sounds correct. In real life, there are ana jet üs komutanlığı which means main jet base command and under it fleets (filo) so it's like 1. Ana Jet Üs Komutanlığı, Eskişehir and under it a number of filo's. We can't use the "base" thing because it implies a connection to a physical base, and fleets are directly attached to bases. The thing is though, the size of a fleet is not really very static. So an in game single fleet and multiple fleets would probably be called as filo anyway. Of course 5 Avcı Filo has some grammatical issues, it should be 5. Avcı Filosu for example. If we didn't specify what kind of fleet, it would've been 5. Filo or if it was bombers it would've been 5. Bombardıman Filosu. I think we can use the same notation for fleets and groups. We're calling some divisions brigade anyway (division: tümen, brigade: tugay hence I am the acting commander of 3rd mountain commando brigade 6th brigade) but the naming of different levels across Turkish and English has always been a little fluid. Long story short, I think it's fitting to call them 4. Avcı Filosu or 4. Avcı Grubu depending on your taste :)
I'll go with Grubu as it mirrors 'Group' better - many thanks! :)
This is the spirit. Comrade Skitalec convinced the STAVKA of the importance of this part of the front, it seems :)
Indeed - they've really started to be helpful of late. I have some hopes (but, of course, no expectations) of the coming winter. Freeze 'em 'n bleed 'em! :mad:
It is interesting that the İş Bankası (business bank) clique of the party is so prominent while there are hardly any 5-year-plan people around in the game timeline mostly as OTL but we're allied to Soviets. I'm expecting some tension between İnönü and Bayar for example but this silence between them is I think the aftermath of an unresolved tension.
Yes, in these cases, rather than decry Paradox research etc, (which is sometimes like shooting fish in a barrel) and given I'm on an alternate universe theme, I just rationalise these things not as incongruities but as ATL history having departed from historical OTL some years back, even before the game started. I relax and go zen and run with it, rather than get to wrapped up in the historical inaccuracies. Having said that, the additional historical insights are very interesting. As you have seen with my sometimes incorporation of historical news and events and sometimes noting it as a completely different OTL comparison (like with Eastern Front progress of OTL vs ATL), I do like to compare and contrast, and you tend to get both when you depart pretty radically from history as I have done here. The title of the AAR does include 'Alternate History' after all, so everyone has been warned from the start. ;)
more cool stuff for us :)
Yeah baby! :cool:
uyuz mihver itleri! something I can see blends in very well with the era and atmosphere of the day when directly translated to Turkish.
Nice! :D
Re: Kaya: He, along with Aras, were the 2 names İnönü deposed as soon as he became president after Atatürk's passing. He told his PM Bayar: "Get rid of that duo" and Bayar knew who İnönü was talking about. He's quite a paternalistic character, proponent of forcefully assimilating people and stuff; and he took the control of a lot of things while Atatürk's health was deteriorating to the point of being the shadow president. Many thought he would naturally take Atatürk's place once he passed away, but with Çakmak's help İnönü wrestled the controls of the country from him. This is pure speculation but he would have steered the country towards Axis as opposed to İnönü being friendly with Allies (not only in terms of WW2 military alliances but also in terms of general outlook on politics).
Very interesting - some accidental parallel here perhaps, some variation. Looks like my pick of Aras and Kaya as plotters has hit the mark a little - from pure chance! :)
 
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All equally important, the third being hard to pull off without the first two...
Exactly. :)
This is great news, more lend-lease is always welcome, but of course, a more substantial military commitment from the UK in the Med, and from the US in the Pacific would be even more so.
If not boots on the ground yet, then at least some equipment and dollars!
About time. The Turkish armed forces are respected throughout the civilized world for their dedication and effective tactical thinking. They are true veterans.
Four long years (on and off) of war and against the Axis since June 1940: it's been hard-earned.
All great news, more fighters to keep the Hungarians off your back, more bombers to support the troops on the ground, and more money for the Soviet Union... (though that last one might be regarded as too capitalist a remark...)
It's all good - sinews of war and all!
This is great in so many ways, it places turkey's war effort in the spotlight, increases recruitment for the Turkish Air Force, and it will definitely give Perse and the Istanbul Times a nice veneer of journalistic integrity.
Very important in that information theatre of the war.
What madness that meeting, the members of the cabinet backstabbing each-other, throwing red herrings, and 'leaves of absence', it's almost like the meetings of the Central Committee of the Communist party of the Soviet Union.
Ha, that's roughly the effect I was striving for: though in this case, the President is the long-suffering adult trying to keep the kids from scratching each others' eyes out - rather than (with Uncle Joe) the psychopathic lunatic in charge of the asylum! :D
A great name for a great new corps...
May they grind the Axis thugs into the ground with the treads of their boots and tank tracks!
More mobility is definitely a good thing.
I'm hoping it will come in handy - for quick switching and response on the defence and pace when we can go back on the offensive.
What a load of bull... 'the thorn' is definitely not allowed under the terms of the deal, and I will do what I can to assist the S.I.T.H. in tracking him/her/it/them down for a ride on the midnight express.

They do have a point that Turkey should probably refrain from public accusations of impropriety. The lend-lease is important.
Heh, all's fair in love, war, diplomacy and espionage. S.I.T.H. won't hesitate to return the favour if they can. But they don't have the reach of MI6 - at least one league below.
Damn right they won't be any better. Do they even know about Kelebek? Any replacement for Kaya would be another puppet for the dark lord to play with.
The whole thing is really just pretty Kafkaesque in the end ... :(
Great progress on the Mobile front, soon Turkish Motorised troops will have Turkish lorries, and not copies of Soviet ones. Will Turkey fit out existing units with lorries once it has the technology to make that work, or will only new regiments be Motorized? Upgrading existing units might be a good way to increase the effectiveness of existing units, all the while building up a motorized force more quickly.
Yes, one of the main reasons (other than not having to pay and wait for licenses for MOT when I want them for other things) is the ability to convert units down the track. Otherwise, I'd probably not have bothered researching it. :)
The Partiotic front isn't looking too bad, better than it's been in a while, more blue arrows than red ones...
Yes, and fingers crossed for winter and even more blue arrows - and frozen Hitlerites!
Finally, the Royal Marines are doing what they're good at against weak opposition, attacking across large bodies of water, and winning... At least this means the Italians won't interfere the Suez canal, for now...
Indeed - a relief, they were only just in time. Hope they can sustain it.
Exactly, now there needs to be some follow-up from the British Royal Army...
Agreed.
This was a positive week for the Comintern if we discount the Far East (sic.). Turkey's position got quite a bit better in a short amount of time, with plenty of new planes, and fresh units to shore up the already stable Yeniceri+ line. The Red Army is pushing back the Germans in many places, though not everywhere, of course. Also, Perse was in a foreign magazine.
We habitually discount the Far East these days! :eek: The rest - not too bad for October 1941. My original expectation back in 1939 was we'd be struggling to hold the Iskandar-Calistar Lines by now! :)
 
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Well...in HOI4 I took most of the world just by avoiding the Allies. It ended with a huge build-up along the french border and the world in a mildy cold war. So Italy left on its own can do very well...but they have no answer on the sea.
One day I may test it out in HOI3, though probably not as an AAR game, though you never know. I just have too many other ideas/projects lined up before doing that in the long form. :eek:[/QUOTE]
Well...this is unexpected.
Always expect the unexpected! ;)
Um...no idea what he's talking about.
Nice pick-up on 'K', but in this case, Kelebek is innocent. Which in itself is a very unusual thing to be able to say! :D
This had nothing to do with Kelebek's drink with Lord Pip at the Reform Club the night before.
None at all. ;)
Huh...they actually could manage it since the italians probably are quite low on supplies by now.
We hope.
We are doing very well compared to OTL.
Yes, pleasingly so. I'll probably keep the OTL comparison going until the end of the real Barbarossa advance. After that, it will be all the new ATL in that theatre, I think.
'Top Secret' at the Turkish section meant somethijg quite different than in the rest of the building. Unlike most other 'friendly' nations, the Turks did not send moles and other deep cover agents to crack British security from the inside. That would have been preferable. The British were very good at dealing with them.

Instead, the Turks would send SITH agents into the country at seemingly random intervals for unexplained reasons. It was well-known that their Head, the mysterious Kelebek, somehow never missed a dinner at the three London clubs he was a member of (gender was assumed due to...well, membership). It had also come to their attention through the cabinet office that an unidentified SITH agent managed to have an in-depth discussion over the impressiveness of top secret jet technology with Winston Churchill without anyone noticing. Said agent now periodically sends high quality turkish sweet cigars to Number 10 every Friday through unknown means.

The strangest case was probably the entire interior of the secret records office being painted pink and yellow in a poka-dot pattern. This has made many in the service very paranoid indeed that the SITH are merely 'playing' with us and that should we ever actually take aggressive action against them, the gloves will come off.

It should be noted that SITH seem to have professional respect for our agents and government gven the antics of the Thorn and others. The German Reich has been under attack non-stop by the SITH for some time now. They seem to be trying to bomb the entire German High Command into insanity by 'just missing' them in a variety of outlandish and horrifying assasination attempts that have thus far rendered two generals catatonic with fear and Hitler's inner circle calling for any SITH agent captured to be slowly dropped into an acid bath.
As always, enjoy and appreciate the Kelebek/S.I.T.H. freelances. :D
'I should mention that SITH are not as of yet interested in nor technically allowed to intervene in inner state affairs such as this, so at the very least we should be safe from their reprisal should it be ordered. However, I am begining to get the feeling Kelebek and his inner elite know exactly who I am and what I'm doing. Why they have yet to take action is unclear though it is no secret that SITH utterly hates Turkish security and has a very odd respect for anyone who regularly pulls off impressive/amusing things (see the 'Springtime for Hitler affair').

What this means for Britain is unclear. Persobally would advise that Turkey is currently an asset and no real threat to our interests for the forseeable future. SITH is...but they are an international organisation with only loose ties to the Republic now Kemal is dead. If they can be bought or swayed from the communists, we should do it.'
-Thorn
And the Thorn one too!
Good! If they can't get far in autumn, they won't do well in winter. And it might stop the Japs as well.
It will be interesting to see - I've no prior knowledge or experience of the effect of Russian winter (if any) in the Far East. I could look it up, I guess, but am just happy for the game to do whatever it wants to there.
Yes, the very nick of time!
 
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The Veteran Army status looks good and the Russian Front is doing...better...? But still don't like how the Japanese are doing! Somebody needs to attack the Japanese. The Chinese, the Americans....anybody! Your North Africa looks slightly better than mine.
All good points. Still only October. I'll start to worry a bit if the Allies aren't at war with the Japanese and the US isn't in the Allies once we get to early 1942. Until then, like Britain in OTL, we're hanging on. Though having the Soviets as the active partner is better than Britain had after France fell and before the US or Soviets entered the war!
 
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I'll go with Grubu as it mirrors 'Group' better - many thanks! :)
small note: the suffix -u is for being defined by another noun. so 4. avcı grubu or 5. bombardıman grubu but 6. grup if you want to use "group" by itself without any identifiers

the historical inaccuracies.
not very big inaccuracies in this case, the business bank clique was indeed prominent in real timeline as well, but Turkey was not allied to Soviets either. the inaccuracy is maybe paradox not putting enough 5-year plan guys in there. the way you handle stuff is excellent, I'm just giving some historical background so you can use it as narrative ammunition :)

Very interesting - some accidental parallel here perhaps, some variation. Looks like my pick of Aras and Kaya as plotters has hit the mark a little - from pure chance! :)
it has hit the mark so nice I always thought you were doing it on purpose :D

Yes, one of the main reasons (other than not having to pay and wait for licenses for MOT when I want them for other things) is the ability to convert units down the track. Otherwise, I'd probably not have bothered researching it. :)
and the artillery pieces will also need to get upgraded to self propelled versions, i guess? or we'll just detach them?
 
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