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You know, I think it may be time for another great summit, because the time is fast approaching when we are entering Germany and Italy proper, and the question of the vichy French to resolve.

At the very least, Stalin, FDR and the Turks need to meet up and figure out how operation downfall is going to play out, and how they're going to take down Italy and when they're going to invade vichy France. That last question means they're probably lying going to have to involve the allies in some capacity, maybe Chruchill gets an invite to try and get an idea where the british are at in North Africa and what they and the free french think of vichy France etx.

As annoying as it is, especially now with the germans switching into being really good defenders mode, we need to get this resolved.

If nothing else, Kelebek may gather together our dark little circle of advisors and miscreants to have an unofficial official summit.
A summit would be more attractive if I could actually get the US and UK to do something, limited as the options are in-game :(o_O If I had the spare troops to throw at it, I may have invaded Syria for starters probably two years ago. But I never seem to have had the luxury. For now, it really appeals to put Vichy (for which there’s no Comintern war objective) second in the queue for a DoW after Finland (for which there is).

Now with Finland, who diplomatically look like they’ll never join the Axis voluntarily now, there is perhaps a window to attack them when the Karelian Pocket is closed and the Soviets have all those forces concentrated on their southern border. But then that would probably slow down the drive into Germany, where those forces might switch otherwise. And give the Soviets a third front.

The over-arching question: does Turkey stick with Germany First, Italy Second as its primary war policy, with the Soviets leading with Germany and us with Italy? And avoiding unnecessary distractions to either (Finland, Vichy)? Or is there an opportunity to take one or both on sooner, before the main European Axis powers are defeated (or at least on the ropes)?

That consideration could come after the rest of the story of October is told, to judge whether the question is worth asking yet and, if it is, to frame the context of the debate.
 
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The over-arching question: does Turkey stick with Germany First, Italy Second as its primary war policy, with the Soviets leading with Germany and us with Italy? And avoiding unnecessary distractions to either (Finland, Vichy)? Or is there an opportunity to take one or both on sooner, before the main European Axis powers are defeated (or at least on the ropes)?

That consideration could come after the rest of the story of October is told, to judge whether the question is worth asking yet and, if it is, to frame the context of the debate.
This, pretty much, is exactly why we need a general conference or summit.
 
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Since it is likely that the United States sent our entire Marine Corps to Turkey, and given how little action we've seen in the Pacific (as I recall, maybe an island or two has switched hands? The US has probably lost at least a division in that bollocks), I'd imagine they would like us to stay focused on the fight in Europe, before focusing on the fight in Japan.
 
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Tokyo or bust baby
 
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The end of 1942 naval report sunk many Allied survivors in OTL. The Shropshire must have been a bitter pill for you personally.
It has been carnage for the RN and RAN. some very sad losses, with more to come in 1943. :(
 
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My apologies for my lack of comment, beyond my sending over of frontline reports, I found myself in the hospital as a covert operation of mine went south. It seems the British might have had more than one mole, this one being potentially embedded into Soviet Intelligence directly. These are definitely dangerous times.

Now for my views on the current Turkish situation:

The manpower crunch has become critical, just as the Axis has solidified most of it's front line with Turkey. I regret that the Red Army has been unable to take over some of Turkey's inflated frontage, or at least shorten it. A strategic retreat may well become necessary if the Turkish Army's fighting strength becomes too depleted. At least the capture of the German Army Group North should make up for the imminent reduction in Turkish offensive operations, though it is taking quite some time, and a significant amount of troops to grind down the encircled forces.

As for the deadly aerial attacks on Turkish troops. Perhaps we should create an Expeditionary Fighter Aviation Corps, made up of VVS fighter units on loan to the Turkish Air Force, to help contest the airspace over the Turkish front. (this might be something you can do yourself, at least as a stop gap, by tagging to the Soviet Union and sending a Fighter unit that's inactive to Turkey as an expeditionary force.)

As much as I am disappointed by our lack of success in taking out Perse, the other successful mission in the United States do war my heart.

The future amphibious operation into Italy still seems quite some way off. I agree with the conclusions of the strategic discussion in that regard. Either we hit Sicily and/or Taranto to draw Italian forces away from the Adriatic front (if the South of Italy is lightly guarded), or we hit as far north as possible to cut off Italian forces to the South from the main Axis front, and the Adriatic front from it's supply base in Rome. (if there is a significant force in Italy proper, particularly around Rome and to it's South.) In any case, a manpower reserve should be rebuilt before such an operation can be launched, unless we have reliable intelligence that there are barely any Italian forces in Italy beyond those on the Adriatic front, and thus the operation would be mostly unopposed.

Turkey continues to impress me by the tenacity of it's armed forces, even when massively overstretched, and facing a manpower shortage.

Vur Ha!
SkitalecS3
 
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New offer: send the Sicily/Italy invasion troops using transport fleets to the front lines, they will be of most use against Operation wacht an der Donau, so we may force the germans that do win to come across a force that will not lose.

empirical evidence suggests that the side of a war that does not lose the war wins the war

Thus by not losing, we will win, and turkeys flag will grow
 
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The over-arching question: does Turkey stick with Germany First, Italy Second as its primary war policy, with the Soviets leading with Germany and us with Italy? And avoiding unnecessary distractions to either (Finland, Vichy)? Or is there an opportunity to take one or both on sooner, before the main European Axis powers are defeated (or at least on the ropes)?

That consideration could come after the rest of the story of October is told

This campaign perfectly illustrates the plights of minor powers. Turkey is first of all suffering from the inability to protect her airspace, and the Germans, who certainly benefit from full doctrines and maximal technological advance, which I suspect Turkey cannot equal, create havoc amongst the Turkish and Soviet troops. The answer is to build as many Interceptors as possible, which you already mentioned Turkey is doing.

Germany also benefits from defensive bonuses on national territory and has excellent officers.

To the positive side, Germany has lost too many divisions to cover the whole frontline, but the Italian ally makes a great deal covering those gaps. Even so, the Soviets might get the upper hand once the Karelian pocket will be captured, respectively destroyed. I guess the prisoners of war will have wished to die in war than the fate waiting for them far away...

At the moment retreating to more defensible positions is the only feasible option for Turkey, and overseas adventures in Southern Italy, Vichy France, Finland or anywhere else are science fiction.

If the Soviet-Nazi front in Prussia and Poland collapses, things might evolve pretty fast, giving Turkey a respite, and conquest more options. A protracted battle in Germany is though not impossible, if Germany has enough MP.

Your valiant defense of Vienna made a great impression on me. Just be careful not to lose troops in an encirclement. The AI plays well in defensive and Italy makes a good play, despite being behind in doctrines and techs. Great game! I love it when the AI puts a decent fight.

If you want to play historically, the Mediterranean region is the natural expansion direction for Turkey.
 
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At the moment retreating to more defensible positions is the only feasible option for Turkey,
I maintain my own position that Turkey is making out well enough in her current position, even with the manpower deficit an energetic defense with vigorous counter-attacks at the necessary positions will be more effective than retreating to a prepared line once again. Germany can hardly be doing any better than Turkey, and is already losing the war as it is so things can only in the end swing more into Turkey's favor.

and overseas adventures in Southern Italy, Vichy France, Finland or anywhere else are science fiction.
Tokyo or bust baby
 
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Thanks for the latest round of comments! I’m in the process of editing the next chapter, so they are well-placed. In that context, I note that all of October has been played though and it will take 2-3 more chapters to fully deal with those events, plus end of month reports and the context for the post-October strategic Cabinet Meeting.

In the answers below, I therefore need to be careful not to spoil too much, as some of the discussion delves into 20-odd days of action that has already occurred. ;) If some of the answers therefore seem a bit evasive, that’s the reason. Or so I claim!
I’ve figured out what this is! It’s the battle of Bastogne. All we need is a division leader to say Hayalar.


attack them , and hopefully we win the war.
Bastogne is in some ways not a bad comparison for the Battle of Vienna, though in this case it is Turkey with the Bulge that have taken Bastogne, but now seek to hold it against the despicable bratwurst munchers.
Since it is likely that the United States sent our entire Marine Corps to Turkey, and given how little action we've seen in the Pacific (as I recall, maybe an island or two has switched hands? The US has probably lost at least a division in that bollocks), I'd imagine they would like us to stay focused on the fight in Europe, before focusing on the fight in Japan.
One part of me thinks they may have been capable of raising a few more with a couple of years of wartime economy and no fighting of their own to speak of, but the other part simply replies “but Paradox HOI3 US AI!” :rolleyes: Yes, some island exchanges over Midway (back in Japanese hands) but nothing recently. Probably lost a few in the past battles. Their AI isnt listening to Professor Slorepee and hisToyko or Bust line!:D
Tokyo or bust baby
Cue Nukeluru Cato and the famous “Tokyo delenda est“ refrain! :D
My apologies for my lack of comment, beyond my sending over of frontline reports, I found myself in the hospital as a covert operation of mine went south. It seems the British might have had more than one mole, this one being potentially embedded into Soviet Intelligence directly. These are definitely dangerous times.
None required, of course. Study would have been a more than adequate diversion, but the rest ... :eek: Hope you’re feeling better soon, but you must concentrate on that thesis when things are back on track again. If there’s time in between for AAR comments (I see you’ve hit the threads again) and your own AAR (will read up an comment soon) great, but all things in moderation;)
The manpower crunch has become critical, just as the Axis has solidified most of it's front line with Turkey. I regret that the Red Army has been unable to take over some of Turkey's inflated frontage, or at least shorten it. A strategic retreat may well become necessary if the Turkish Army's fighting strength becomes too depleted. At least the capture of the German Army Group North should make up for the imminent reduction in Turkish offensive operations, though it is taking quite some time, and a significant amount of troops to grind down the encircled forces.
The manpower crunch is already bad and gets worse as the month grinds on, but Inonu is never one for taking a difficult situation lying down! And by now, in addition to all the divisions they have lost (or will soon lose) In encirclements, the Germans must by now be hundreds of thousands of men in deficit, I’d have thought. And a lack of major offensive plans does not necessarily mean an inability to attack as part of an active defence, as we have already seen. How much of that will be done and is it wise? More shall be revealed.
As for the deadly aerial attacks on Turkish troops. Perhaps we should create an Expeditionary Fighter Aviation Corps, made up of VVS fighter units on loan to the Turkish Air Force, to help contest the airspace over the Turkish front. (this might be something you can do yourself, at least as a stop gap, by tagging to the Soviet Union and sending a Fighter unit that's inactive to Turkey as an expeditionary force.)
A nice thought, but I won’t be pushing my no tag to advantage rule in that regard. I haven’t reported it, but there have been a few Soviet and Romanian wings, including a small amount of INT, stationed forward in Turkish airfields recently. This is a problem we’ll need to deal with ourselves, with whatever assistance the Soviet AI might provide. o_O
As much as I am disappointed by our lack of success in taking out Perse, the other successful mission in the United States do war my heart.
There has been some carnage of major players and now the two principal dramatic adversaries are the opposing femme fatales of the story!
The future amphibious operation into Italy still seems quite some way off. I agree with the conclusions of the strategic discussion in that regard. Either we hit Sicily and/or Taranto to draw Italian forces away from the Adriatic front (if the South of Italy is lightly guarded), or we hit as far north as possible to cut off Italian forces to the South from the main Axis front, and the Adriatic front from it's supply base in Rome. (if there is a significant force in Italy proper, particularly around Rome and to it's South.) In any case, a manpower reserve should be rebuilt before such an operation can be launched, unless we have reliable intelligence that there are barely any Italian forces in Italy beyond those on the Adriatic front, and thus the operation would be mostly unopposed.
Yes, a way off yet, but we want options in our back pocket. Intel (via espionage and/or physical recon) will be vital once a possible operation becomes feasible.
Turkey continues to impress me by the tenacity of it's armed forces, even when massively overstretched, and facing a manpower shortage.
Per above, the German MO situation is far worse, though they keep fighting in too. The Italians probably still have quite a large MP reserve, I suspect (though the espionage reports being quite inaccurate, probably).
New offer: send these troops using transport fleets to the front lines, they will be of most use against Operation wacht an der Donau, so we may force the germans that do win to come across a force that will not lose.

empirical evidence suggests that the side of a war that does not lose the war wins the war

Thus by not losing, we will win, and turkeys flag will grow
Haha, it’s all about adding more stars to that flag!
This campaign perfectly illustrates the plights of minor powers. Turkey is first of all suffering from the inability to protect her airspace, and the Germans, who certainly benefit from full doctrines and maximal technological advance, which I suspect Turkey cannot equal, create havoc amongst the Turkish and Soviet troops. The answer is to build as many Interceptors as possible, which you already mentioned Turkey is doing.
From the very beginning, enemy air power has been our greatest fear (panzers coming a close second) and so it has proved. Even the license purchases are probably a bit behind the German equivalents, then become gradually obsolete as they age in service as well. Very much the curse of the minor. The air force will keep trying though as new wings come into service.
Germany also benefits from defensive bonuses on national territory and has excellent officers.

To the positive side, Germany has lost too many divisions to cover the whole frontline, but the Italian ally makes a great deal covering those gaps. Even so, the Soviets might get the upper hand once the Karelian pocket will be captured, respectively destroyed. I guess the prisoners of war will have wished to die in war than the fate waiting for them far away...
Yes, they have been getting territorial advantage for a while now and usually have the better commanders, though many of ours a very experienced by now too.
At the moment retreating to more defensible positions is the only feasible option for Turkey, and overseas adventures in Southern Italy, Vichy France, Finland or anywhere else are science fiction.
Maybe, but we’ll revisit this when October is done. Finland would be purely a declaration by us for the Soviets to conduct, while they have all those troops up there for the Karelian Picket battle. Vichy France - suspect you’re right about that, but there are advocates. Italy? Not in 1943, anyway. Later? If an invasion force and enough air power can be assembled, then it might save more men than it costs.
If the Soviet-Nazi front in Prussia and Poland collapses, things might evolve pretty fast, giving Turkey a respite, and conquest more options. A protracted battle in Germany is though not impossible, if Germany has enough MP.
Per above, Germany by now has a vast MP deficit they can never hope to rectify. Though it doesn’t seem to stop them fighting. Basically, the plan all along was to let Russia shoulder the load against Germany. Opportunism led us into perhaps expanding too far with the summer offensive when the Soviets didn’t follow up in Poland as quickly as we would have liked. But they did the job on Army Group North and the Baltics, so it still worked out ok.

I’d now like to leave Germany to Russia, but Hitler doesn’t seem willing to comply ... :D
Your valiant defense of Vienna made a great impression on me. Just be careful not to lose troops in an encirclement. The AI plays well in defensive and Italy makes a good play, despite being behind in doctrines and techs. Great game! I love it when the AI puts a decent fight.
It’s a really interesting mini-campaign that is far from over.
If you want to play historically, the Mediterranean region is the natural expansion direction for Turkey.
I’m playing alt-historically, but a Med based strategy still seems a logical path anyway.
I maintain my own position that Turkey is making out well enough in her current position, even with the manpower deficit an energetic defense with vigorous counter-attacks at the necessary positions will be more effective than retreating to a prepared line once again. Germany can hardly be doing any better than Turkey, and is already losing the war as it is so things can only in the end swing more into Turkey's favor.
And you will see how that played out for the rest of October. Has Inonu pulled into his shell? Or damned the torpedoes and gone for it? And what has he been forced into by the enemy and the state of the war on the wider front? All will be revealed ;) in due course and the fullness of time.
Tokyo or bust baby
Tokyo delenda est :D

Ill do my best to get the next chapter out as soon as I can, but we’re about to get the whole house painted and re-carpeted, have a trip to Sydney this weekend and - other stuff, so no promises as to timing!
 
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Chapter 215: Crimson Tide (11 to 25 October 1943)
Chapter 215: Crimson Tide (11 to 25 October 1943)

Foreword

The month of September had been a bloody one for the UGNR: almost 24,700 battle and air raid casualties, exceeding the replacement rate. This rate had increased in the first ten days of October as unrelenting war was waged in Central Europe, with another 6,852 lost in ground combat and 11,550 from air attacks, for an unsustainable total of 18,402 men. The question now hung in the air (so to speak): would anyone be left alive by the time the month ended? The next fortnight promised to be even more sanguinary than the last!

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11 Oct 43

No less than seven battles remained in progress as 11 October began: in Gänserndorf, Katowice, Rovigno, Vienna, Wiener Neustadt, Eisenstadt and Sopron. The manpower deficit stood at 11,100.

The first news of the morning was that Uhersje Hradiste (on the Slovakian border) had been retaken by the enemy at 2am.
Later that morning, the situation in Vienna was difficult, as it was pounded from the air while the Axis assaulted recklessly. As the battle in Eisenstadt worsened, 15 Inf Div could no longer sustain the spoiling attack on Wiener Neustadt, which was called off at 9am. At least that led to the enemy breaking off their attack on Eisenstadt an hour later.

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Hodonin was the next border province to be retaken by the enemy just as victory was won in Eisenstadt.

Air Damage Report. Vienna (attack support) 519; Katowice (attack support) 412; Rovigno (attack support) 149; a total of 1,080 for the day across the front.

[Note all air raids this period are by the Axis, often alternating between Italian and German aircraft in each location. Given the intensity of raids and how long some missions extend for, I’ll just give the type of mission when it starts, sub-totals each day then the total killed when a mission finishes.]

OTL Event: Croatia. Ante Pavelić, leader of the Nazi controlled Independent State of Croatia, fled the puppet state's capital in Zagreb, as the partisan troops led by Josip Broz Tito closed in on the city. [Comment: we beat them to the punch in this ATL.]

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12 Oct 43

In the early hours of 12 October, the odds in Sopron were improved when two more Comintern divisions joined the battle in reserve. And by 4am in Gänserndorf, LTGEN Artunkal’s attack (lending his expertise and his reinforced HQ’s troops to the otherwise leaderless Turkish formations) had very nearly exhausted 7 Pz Div. But 2 Mot Div’s position in Vienna continued to deteriorate.

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At 5am MAJGEN Devyatov reported triumphantly that he had retake Lussino. As he was trucked up to Ljubljana and the defensive battle in Rovigno moved towards victory, 1 and 2 Mtn Divs launched an attack on Kostel that got off to a promising start. In fact, the Italian defenders only waited three hours before ‘bugging out’ (Turkey 37, Italy 49 killed). 2 Mtn Div would hold in Ribnica, but Muzir’s Mountaineers pushed on to Kostel.

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The fight to retake Gänserndorf had begun back on 7 October. At 7am it ended in Turkish victory – but at a terrible cost. 1 Mot Div had partly recovered in Bratislava and was called back up to help secure the gain and – unlike the reorganising 3 Mot – be ready to conduct a possible spoiling attack on Hollabrun (flagged in the map below) to help Vienna, where 2 Mot Div still battled away.

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3 Mot Div marched back into the province at 8am. At that point, the thin defensive line had reformed to the north-east along the Slovakian border (marked in yellow above) as the remaining units retreated to its safety. It seemed the Axis were unwilling to attack across it (Slovakia still being neutral, though part of the Comintern). 3 Cav Div joined 3 Mot in Gänserndorf at 6pm, but they too had a long post-attack reorganisation (108 hours) to complete.

Another big but expensive victory came in Rovigno that night, even though 8 Mil Div had been forced to retreat before it was won.

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Air Damage Report. Vienna 508; Katowice 451; Rovigno 326 (completed: 475 total over two days); total of 1,285 for the day.

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13 Oct 43

1 Mot Div pulled into Gänserndorf at 3am and immediately rolled into an attack on Hollabrun, which started promisingly. It was just as well, because Vienna’s isolated defenders had begun to falter.

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The manpower deficit was reported as 13,300 at 5am (20,000/month gain).

With bitter fighting still going on in Katowice, at 7am the Germans opened up a new shock attack [-25%] on Cieszyn, to its immediate south, with 2 Pz Div (LArm). Perhaps it was to ensure the two Turkish infantry divisions there could not attempt a spoiling attack to assist Katowice.

As that was happening, 11 Inf Div joined the Comintern attack on Sopron [to 70%], though MAJGEN Hell’s masterful delaying tactics continued to slow progress and his own spoiling attack on 15 Inf Div in Eisenstadt continued. HQ 2nd Corps joined the defenders of Gänserndorf to boost both the troops on the ground and the leadership there.

But the heroic effort to retake Gänserndorf and push 1 Mot through to attack Hollabrun had come too late for Toüdemür’s gallant defenders in Vienna. His men could take no more by 8am and routed towards Eisenstadt, where 15 Inf Div still had 40 hours before they could attack again. The odds for the spoiling attack on Hollabrun, now redundant, suddenly dropped as the defenders fought on only one front. It was noticed the new German AT guns in their specialist AT brigades were now easily a match for Turkish medium armour and even the older IS-1s. The fight for Sopron continued.

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And by 10am, the battle for Sopron was won. HQ 3rd Corps began moving to reinforce Eisenstadt while the rest of the attackers pushed up to occupy Sopron. This left only the two battles in southern Poland and the Turks hoped a period of relative calm might finally descend on their hectic front.

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But this was significantly offset by news at 2pm that the despicable Germans had reoccupied Vienna: a galling loss after so much blood had been shed trying to hold it. Inönü was already planning on how he might be able to take it back – despite the mounting manpower deficit, which he knew was even worse for the Germans. [While I hoped Vienna wouldn’t become my Stalingrad!]

1 Mtn Div retook Kostel at 6pm – and this time there was no immediate counter-attack.

An hour later, the update from Katowice was concerning: the situation there were slowly but steadily deteriorating and there were now fears they may not be able to hold as the heavy bombing also continued. This prompted orders for 177 SD to move up from Chrzanow to assist the Turkish defenders against the German panzers, SS fanatics and infantrymen attacking it so relentlessly from three directions. Turkey’s Comintern partners had still not begun to fill the gap between their two fronts east of Krakow (marked in yellow below).

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Air Damage Report. Vienna 170 (completed that morning: 1,197 total over two and a bit days); Katowice 1,028; Gänserndorf 349 (completed, one day); total of 1,547 for the day.

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14 Oct 43

The manpower deficit was reported as only 12,100 at midnight (but reduced to a 18,400/month gain with the loss of Vienna). Inönü thought this supposed improvement was optimistic and there must be a lag in reporting. Leadership was also reduced.

Yet another German ‘shock’ attack hit 15 Inf Div in Eisenstadt at 4am [-30%] as 2 Mot Div retreated towards them from Vienna. All this pressure prompted the recently arrived 2 Inf Div in Trencin (Slovak border) to be redeployed down to Eisenstadt by truck at 5am. At that time, the gap east of Krakow finally began to be filled in by the Romanians, sending a division into Rzeszow. And at 9am, 5 Inf Div de-trained in Trnava and began moving up towards Bratislava.

On the Adriatic, 14 Inf Div reinforced 1 Mtn Div in Kostel at 10am: this time they were determined to hold the gain. Another gain was made at 10am when 1 Mar Div was the first into Sopron. But they were being strongly attacked by the Germans at midday; the Turkish Marines needed to hold on until the rest of the advancing forces reached them from Tata and Györ.

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The focus of action switched north again, with Inönü being disappointed to hear that 9 Inf Div had broken in Katowice, leaving MAJGEN Güzlin’s 7 Inf Div in a precarious position, with 177 SD still not arrived to assist them and heavy Axis air strikes killing a thousand men a day.

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More forces were needed urgently from the east of the line in southern Poland: Kielce (north-east of Krakow) was added to the Comintern objective request list at 3pm. And the Soviets should be able to spare the forces to help, because SkitalecS3 advised things were going well in the reduction of the Karelian Pocket, Königsberg was almost surrounded and a Soviet mech division and the Polish Home Army were on the outskirts of Warsaw [OOC Comment: watch out, you poor Poles; Uncle Joe will happily sell you down the river.]

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This led Jedrzejow (north of Krakow) to be added to the Comintern objective list. And that night, the Romanians (own divisions and Soviet EFs) appeared to be taking heed. This was needed desperately, as the defence of Katowice faltered. At 8pm, 2 Armd Div was hastily pulled out of Kielce to head towards the fighting. There was then a little good news with victory in Cieszyn, which allowed a rather rash spoiling attack to be launched on Rybnik by 3 Inf Div (no leader), to try to disrupt the German attack on Katowice.

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Air Damage Report. Katowice 1,017; Cieszyn (attack, then defensive support) 677; Eisenstadt (attack support) 456; total of 2,150 for the day.

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15 Oct 43

The manpower deficit was still reported as being only 12,100 at 2am: Inönü did not believe it.

At 10am the Romanians had filled in at Kielce, so the Comintern objective list had Chestchowa (north-east of Katowice) added as an optimistic attack objective, even though the Romanians were still some way off.

Things were progressing better in the Adriatic Sector, where MAJGEN Köldecan led a heavy attack on German mountain troops and Italian armour in Cerknica at 1pm. This came soon after 222 SD had finished its strategic redeployment from Lussino to Ljubljana, to allow the powerful 17 Inf Div to lend its weight to the limited offensive to gain the approaches to Trieste.

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But Inönü was now deeply worried about Katowice, where 7 Inf Div was now fading rapidly under the concerted German assault that included Panther tanks and SS motorised troops. 177 SD was due to arrive in just three hours at 11pm and the Turks did not want them to be caught up in a general withdrawal before they could reinforce the battle.

So at 10pm, 7 Inf Div was ordered out of Katowice, supposedly to allow 177 SD a ‘clean’ entry to set up a hasty defence. But it was cut too close and confusion reigned: the battle (one of the bloodiest of the year so far) was lost just as 177 SD arrived and they were caught up in the rout after all. The Germans occupied Katowice at midnight while MAJGEN V.I. Kazakov retreated south to Bielsko Biala.

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“Curses! Call off the attack on Rybnik before we lose any more men needlessly,” exclaimed Inönü as he heard of the debacle and loss of the key fortified town. “I blame the fog of war and the dastardly Germans, not our own valiant men nor our allies. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest Hitler’s underwear!”

Air Damage Report. Katowice 406 (completed that night: 3,314 total over five days); Cieszyn 583; Eisenstadt 588; Sopron 505 (attack support, completed in one day); a total of 2,082 for the day.

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16 Oct 43

As Katowice was lost, at midnight the attack on Cerknica was at least won handsomely (Turkey 90, Axis 847 killed). And the suspected lag in casualty reporting continued, with only a slight increase to a deficit of 12,500 (monthly recruiting down to 17,700 with the additional loss of Katowice).

The Germans seemed even more heedless of their severe manpower shortages than the Turks: at 1am they made a reckless assault on the strongly held Gänserndorf. The attack lasted for fifteen hours and in that time the German 22. Infanterie took horrible casualties, in part due to a very-effective counter attack by 3rd Corps Commander LTGEN Artunkal, who led the defence in person. But the Axis did begin pounding Gänserndorf from the air (which unbeknownst to the Turks would last for a terrible eight continuous days). The enemy also kept up their attacks on Eisenstadt and Sopron, where 1 Mar Div had been reinforced and was now holding more comfortably.

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At 3am Chrzanow (west of Krakow) was added to the friendly objective list as Romanian-led Soviet troops were passing through Krakow to the south-west. Many more seemed to be joining the march further east. 2 Armd Div arrived in Chrzanow at 6am but held in place for now, as Katowice (level 3 forts, one level damaged) was considered too strongly defended to warrant a counter-attack.

But the Germans had more mischief on their minds. 6 Pz Div struck south at 4pm towards Bielsko Biala, where HQ 23rd Corps (A Soviet EF) was surprised and forced to retreat. A forlorn holding attack on Katowice was soon ordered and went in at 5pm, but was expertly counter-attacked by the Panzers and SS troops. So at 6pm, 13 Inf Div in Cieszyn was ordered in as well, even though they would have to cross the Vistula in doing so. And of course, Axis bombers were soon pounding Chrzanow. It would no doubt be an expensive exercise, but a Nazi breakout must be prevented, or so the Turks reasoned. Bielsko Biala was added as an objective a few hours later.

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The Germans’ seemingly bottomless well of aggression brought yet another breakthrough attack on Gänserndorf at 10pm – this time by 11 Pz Div, whose Panthers outmatched the Turkish tank and anti-tank guns [-13%]. The Germans may have only 4,537 men against 36,358 Turkish defenders but they lacked nothing in bravado and determination. At that time, 15 Inf Div was holding on grimly in Eisenstadt [-42%], where 2 Mot Div had finished its retreat from Vienna but was unfit to fight yet.There were now four Comintern divisions massed to the immediate south in in Sopron, but they were still pinned down by a tenacious but failing German attack [-8%].

Air Damage Report. Cieszyn 371; Eisenstadt 462; Ribnica 281 (defensive support for Cerknica, completed in one day); Kostel 569 (defensive support for Cerknica, completed in one day); Ljubljana 439 (defensive support for Cerknica, completed in one day); Gänserndorf 764 (attack support). These seven separate all-day enemy missions killed a massive 2,886 defenders.

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17 Oct 43

The War Ministry reported that only 8,620 reinforcements were required for the army as at 6am that morning. Inönü stared in frank amazement and some contempt at this report. It just could not be right, surely, even though he wanted it to be. If it was right, things were going far better than he had expected, given the recent loss of Katowice and Vienna.

There was good news from the front, with a double victory in the Vienna Sector reported. Both saw the enemy take heavy losses, though at the cost of precious Turkish lives. This left just the enemy attack on Gänserndorf and the Turkish holding attack on Katowice in progress: maybe Turkey could now start to rebuild its manpower reserves again?

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Or maybe not: the Germans (78. Infanterie, led by the notorious MAGJEN Hell) attacked Sopron again just an hour later [-21%]. At 11am, the broken 9 Inf Div arrived in Bielsko Biala from Katowice only to be attacked by the still-advancing 6 Pz Div (still near full strength – 7,399 men – and organisation) and continued their retreat south without a fight at 3pm.

A few hours later, the Romanians had relieved 97 SD ‘Shev’ in Jedrzedow, allowing them to shuffle south-west. The next Comintern objective was set on Cieszyn. The delaying attack on Katowice continued, but was costing precious lives.

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The badly degraded 7 Inf Div (no organisation, strength only 7,775 of an 11,000 man establishment) limped into Chrzanow from Katowice at 9pm and was sent on to Krakow to recover as best it could.

Air Damage Report. Cieszyn 648; Eisenstadt 350 (completed that night: 1,856 total over four days); Gänserndorf 614; Chrzanow 698 (defensive support for Katowice); total of 2,310 for the day.

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18 Oct 43

Perhaps chastened by the reproving look he had received from the Milli Şef the day before, the War Ministry minion who submitted the manpower report that morning assured him the accounting was more up to date: but this also meant the news was bad. There were now 20,100 reinforcements required, by far the largest deficit so far in the war.

At 6am one of those sources of casualties was removed with a strong victory in Sopron. But this was balanced by news that 45. Infanterie had reinforced 11 Pz Div’s attack on Gänserndorf, shifting the odds slightly in the enemy’s favour as the aerial assault went into its third day.

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The Romanian forces holding Kielce were pushed out by the Germans at 4pm, but the probe they launched soon afterwards on Jedrzedow was quickly brushed off. It illustrated the risks of leaving the eastern line to the care of Turkey’s Comintern allies, but had to be done.

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Air Damage Report. Cieszyn 561; Gänserndorf 330; Chrzanow 773; Sopron 462 (attack support, completed in one day); total of 2,126 for the day.

Entertainment Report, US. Perry Mason, based on the novels of Erle Stanley Gardner, was first broadcast as a 15-minute-long daytime radio show on the CBS Radio Network. [The show would run on radio until December 20, 1955.]

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19 Oct 43

The manpower deficit increased to 22,800. And it was set to keep increasing, as 177 SD arrived in Bielsko Biala at midnight after its ‘confused retreat’ from Katowice. But they were near full strength and maximum organisation and even had enough time to dig ‘shell scrapes’ before 6 Pz Div renewed its attack. But this time Kazakov was able to show his mettle; he savagely counter-attacked the German panzers and his up to date Soviet AT guns were a match even for the German Panthers.

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Aided by the Germans having to cross the Vistula, this time it looked like the defence would hold. And with 2 Armd Div losing organisation and the casualties mounting, the holding attack on Katowice could finally be halted. It has served its purpose, but at a very heavy cost.

And despite the rocketing manpower deficiency, the Turks were still ready to attack when the circumstances and potential gains justified it. So it was that LTGEN Yamut took 15 Inf Div in to a new blitzing attack on Vienna at 3am. This was designed to assist the difficult defence of Gänserndorf, but actually retaking the Austrian capital was also still firmly in Inönü’s sights.

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The attack met with great initial success, with the Turkish IS-2’s outmatching the German Panthers of the under-strength 11 Pz Div as they crashed into their flank amid the rubble of the great city’s once beautiful streets and boulevards.

Two hours later, the first of the Turkish objectives was achieved when the German attack on Gänserndorf was finally defeated (Turkey 219; Germany 1,307 killed). The air raids did not let up – but nor did Yamut’s counter-attack on Vienna. The two least damaged formations in Gänserndorf then joined the attack on Vienna, even though they had to attack over the Danube (commonly thought of now as the Red Danube – not blue). Yamut needed the help now, as 11 Pz Div no longer fought on two fronts.

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As the defence of Bielsko Biala continued all day, Krakow was added to the Comintern objective list at 8pm.

Air Damage Report. Cieszyn 646 (completed that night: 3,486 total over six days); Gänserndorf 446; Chrzanow 912 (completed that night: 2,383 total over three days); total of 2,004 for the day.

Medical News, US. The antibiotic Streptomycin was first isolated in a laboratory, by Albert Schatz, a 23-year-old student at Rutgers University. Schatz was working for Professor Selman Waksman. The new medicine was developed from a culture of the bacteria Actinomyces griseus, which was able to kill certain bacteria that could not be treated with penicillin. [Treatment for human patients would be approved in 1946.]

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20 Oct 43

Turkey now needed 30,400 reinforcements for its depleted front line units. A relative lull in fighting (and enemy bombing) was desperately needed, but seemed as far away as ever. Nevertheles, Inönü would stick to his guns with reduced manning if the Germans were determined to bleed themselves dry also: damn those fanatical bratwurst-munchers to hell and back!

By 8am, the excellent news was that 1 Mot and 3 Cav Divs had managed to reinforce in the attack on Vienna – improved Turkish doctrine in this area had really been delivering in recent fighting. But as the odds improved there, so too did the enemy react: Italian mountain troops in Wiener Neustadt launched a reckless attack on Yamut’s force at midday – only to be met by another local vicious counter-attack, even as the assault on Vienna was maintained.

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156 SD was due to arrive in Eisenstadt from Sopron early on the 22nd, while 2 Inf Div (relocated some days ago from the quiet Slovakian border), should make it there a day after that. Though two divisions of Panzers (the ones that were now no longer diverted by the earlier foray over the Slovakian border) were spotted in Hodonin heading south-west towards the Vienna sector.

Air Damage Report. Gänserndorf 254; Bielsko Biala (attack support) 715; Eisenstadt 300 (defensive and attack support); total of 1,269 for the day.

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21 Oct 43

By midnight, 11 Pz Div in Vienna was down to an estimated 36.5% strength and very low organisation [3.6 remaining] as the Turkish attack [91%] went on regardless of manpower losses – where the deficit had supposedly shrunk significantly to 24,600 in the morning report.

At 7am, the latest battle for Vienna ended in a moderately sanguinary Turkish victory. But the troops advancing from Eisenstadt were still under attack by the Italians from Wiener Neustadt. And at 10am one of those previously sighted German panzer divisions hit Gänserndorf in yet another strong and single-minded German attempt to take the key province back. The reoccupation of Vienna would be delayed until one or both of these attacks could be defeated.

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2 Inf Div was halted in Bratislava for now as these latest developments played out, but 156 SD kept advancing to Eisenstadt to reinforce the hard-pressed Vienna salient.

By 1pm, the battle for Bielsko Biala still went on as von Mackensen switched to a standard assault that Kazakov simply sought to defend. Both sides were wearing, though the Germans seemingly a little more quickly than the Soviet EF.

In a big development, their compatriots to the north had just taken Königsberg: news SkitalecS3 was very keen to deliver. And a large Comintern force seemed to be massing to the east of Krakow – which Inönü desperately willed to crash into the Axis lines. The Romanians had meanwhile managed to retake Kielce.

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That afternoon, at 4pm the busy 45. Infanterie joined in the now very dangerous attack on Gänserndorf, recently won back at such great cost. But the Italians were heavily defeated in Eisenstadt two hours later, allowing Yamut’s 3rd Corps HQ and 15 Inf Div to resume their advance on Vienna.

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A new probe on Eisenstadt by 76. Infanterie in Wiener Neustadt at 10pm was driven off two hours later (Turkey four, Germany 77 killed) allowing the Turks to resume their advance to Vienna, albeit under continuing air attack.

Air Damage Report. Gänserndorf 343; Bielsko Biala 813; Eisenstadt 300; total of 1,456 for the day.

News Report: Japanese-Occupied India. "The Provisional Government of Azad Hind" (literally, "Free India") was proclaimed, with Subhas Chandra Bose as President, in those territories of British India that had been captured by Japan. At the same time, Bose announced that Azad Hind was joining Japan in the war against the UK. [An OTL news event - no game effect.]

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22 Oct 43

The manpower deficit had only marginally increased (by 200) to 24,800 that morning.

At 5am, some Italian Alipini and SS LSAH stragglers in Vienna were encountered by Yamut’s advance guard and brushed aside after a three-hour firefight (Turkey 10, Axis 31 killed). But the situation in Gänserndorf was worsening [-83%]. By 1pm, it was only marginally better [-77%], so 4 SD was ordered to reinforce it from Kuty, while 4 US Mar Div, MAJ ‘Wraith’ Loggins marching with the lead company, was redirected from Sopron to fill in at Kuty.

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An hour later, LT Mehtin Sadik led his battle-worn platoon into the centre of Vienna as 15 Inf Div reclaimed it for the UGNR. A quick probe by 16. Infanterie, which had probably been trying to march in to mount a quick defence, was easily seen off (Turkey two, Germany 26 killed). No time was wasted beginning to dig in, as an enemy counter-attack was expected at any time.

In Bielsko Biala, things remained close as Kazakov tried to delay von Mackensen’s determined attempt to break through. Seeking to end this trial, yet another spoiling attack was launched on Katowice at 5pm, the fresh 97 SD joining in this time. It at least soon forced out a division of Italian Alpini, but 6 Pz Div did not immediately halt its own attack.

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At 7pm, 76. Infanterie attacked Eisenstadt, where 156 SD had recently (and thankfully) arrived and 2 Mot Div (gradually recovering organisation, if not strength) added to HQ 3rd Corps’ defence. This probe lasted until early the following morning, but was again defeated (Comintern 26; Germany 95 killed).

Air Damage Report. Gänserndorf 209; Bielsko Biala 989; Eisenstadt 391; total of 1,589 for the day.

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23 Oct 43

The manpower deficit was reported to be a little lower again at 23,700 that morning. In better news, the monthly recruiting rate had risen back to 19,400 with the retaking of Vienna [OOC Comment: it must be all those pro-UGNR, pro-Comintern Austrians there wanting to join up as their city was pounded into ruins by both sides!]

The battle for Bielsko Biala dragged on, despite the ongoing spoiling attack on Katowice. If anything, by 6am the odds were creeping more into the Germans’ favour as the Soviet defenders were slammed from the air [-35%, 6 Pz Div down to 5.6 org, 177 SD to 5.9].

At 3am, Yamut’s HQ 3rd Corps arrived in Vienna to reinforce Gataly’s 15 Inf Div. He would continue to lead from the front. But that afternoon, at 2pm 3 Mot Div (no leader) broke in Gänserndorf (down to 8,856/11,000 strength), fleeing to Bratislava [attack progress to -83%]. 3 Mot Div (also no leader) was not much better off and they were deliberately withdrawn at the same time to Kuty, to see if they could reorganise for future action. This left just 1 Mot Div and LTGEN Artunkal’s HQ 2nd Corps (Mech) to defend Gänserndorf – and they too were beginning to run out of organisation.

This gloom was relieved at 4pm with a report of the gallant victory of 177 SD in Bielsko Biala. This also meant the spoiling attack on Katowice could be halted. It would remain out of reach for now – it was simply too hard to retake without significant Comintern assistance, though that might be on the way, if fairly slowly.

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But by then, things were starting to get desperate in Gänserndorf: so much so that 15 Inf Div abandoned its trench-digging in Vienna and instead launched a cross-Danube spoiling attack on Hollabrun at 5pm, in the hope of disrupting the enemy’s attack. Coming under air attack for their trouble. And alas, the German AT guns were a match for even the IS-2s. Poor LT Sadik now got his feet wet as his battalion tried to slip across the river in small boats: he rated his chances of surviving this war as close to zero, having seen so many men around him mown down over the last few years.

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Air Damage Report. Gänserndorf 283; Bielsko Biala 73 (completed that afternoon – 2,590 killed over four days); Eisenstadt 387 (completed that night – 1,378 killed over four days); Chrzanow 641 (defensive support for Katowice - completed in one day); total of 1,384 for the day.

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24 Oct 43

At midnight, another garrison brigade finished its conversion to motorised infantry. For now, they were left guarding Dubrovnik. Unfortunately, the bean-counters in the War Ministry had caught up with the recent losses and now estimated the manpower deficit as 33,600 men.

More grim news followed, with the battle for Gänserndorf lost at 6am with very heavy casualties on both sides, but this time worse for the Turkish defenders. The spoiling attack on Hollabrun – also a losing fight – was called off. But the withdrawal from Gänserndorf was partly tactical: 5 Inf Div had arrived in Bratislava at 1am and began marching straight for Gänserndorf, while 4 SD was already getting close. So the defenders had been pulled out to allow fresh troops to take up the fight.

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The Germans took Gänserndorf at 8am, only to be immediately blitzed by Namut, with the Soviets in support from Kuty. 14 Pz Div’s von Sodenstern attempted to deflect this with a backhand blow, but this time the Comintern men had the jump on them. It would be yet another furious fight for the by-now ruined province. The fight was made yet harder when 45. Infanterie arrived to join 14 Pz Div at 10pm [to 59% progress]. At that time, this remained the only ground battle continuing on the Turkish Front.

Air Damage Report. Gänserndorf 283 (completed that morning – 3,758 killed over eight and a bit days); Vienna 507 (defensive support for Hollabrun - completed in one day); total of ‘only’ 790 for the day.

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25 Oct 43

Op tempo may have eased off a bit the day before, but the casualty lists were still catching up – 38,400 reinforcements were now required.

The latest extension to the main Adriatic air base at Split were completed, taking it to level 7, with level 8 facilities immediately commenced. And a new air base was started in Ljubljana, giving another location to base air missions for current operations or a future offensive towards Venice.

SkitalecS3 advised the Axis had managed to make Warsaw a little more secure, though one Soviet mech division remained on its outskirts. Further south, Comintern forces did seem to be on the move as the German troops in Sandomiersz were now withdrawing as they risked being cut off by a Romanian envelopment.

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And in a cable from Moscow, Turkish liaison Agent Boğafiltresi – recently returned there after a stint back in Ankara – sent a cable noting STAVKA reports that the Karelian Pocket had almost been closed off. One group of German units had surrendered in Sortavala, while the rest were now holed up in (or retreating to) a single province on the Finnish border. A comprehensive report on the number of prisoners taken could be anticipated when the operation ended – soon.

The 25th saw a solid victory in Gänserndorf at 1pm and it had been liberated – yet again – an hour later.

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The day ended – of course – not in an extension of this brief respite across the front (amazingly, there were no Axis air strikes all day), but with a new German attack by a completely full strength 161. Infanterie on the tired but defiant defenders of Vienna. Their defence started strongly enough, but all were too wary from recent events to think it would be that simple!

The last two weeks saw Turkey lose 9,438 men to ground combat and a horrendous 24,190 to air strikes – a total of 33,628; meaning battle casualties stood at 52,030 for the month-to-date – and still counting. The Axis had lost a massive 16,030 to ground combat in the last two weeks, 25,683 for the month so far (no air raid casualties, of course).

Entertainment News: US. Four years after being introduced as a superhero in Detective Comics issue #27 (May, 1939), Batman reached a larger audience with the debut of the newspaper comic strip "Batman and Robin", authored by Bob Kane.

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Coming Up: As the Soviets roll up the last of the Karelian Pocket and advanced into East Prussia, the Romanians are leading the back-fill of the Turkish line in southern Poland. Would this latter move turn into the long-awaited major new Comintern offensive into the centre of Poland, providing more relief for the hard-pressed Turks? Will the current slower op tempo on the Turkish Front continue, allowing some of the large manpower deficit to be rolled back, let alone forces husbanded for next years’ planned invasion of Italy?

Will Vienna hold this time? Can Germany and Turkey maintain the colossal effusion of blood that October 1943 has come to represent? Will either side blink, or are they locked in some kind of horrible death spiral? [I’m minded here of Gandalf and the Balrog plunging down, fighting, locked together, into the fires of Khazad-dûm! Which sounds like it might be somewhere nearby, perhaps in Hungary.]

After a shocking three and a half weeks so far, Red October still has some time to play out. And there will be the usual monthly summaries as well.
 
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I would provide deep analysis but...y'know...eurovision night...
 
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Germany hast lost so many units in Königsberg and around Leningrad that a defence of the Eastern front has become impossible. The AI spectacularly failed to mount a strong defensive line while it still could, unlike the efficient opposition and temporary successes against Turkey. Only the prompt move of the Italian Army to stop the flood has saved the day North of the Turkish segment. Given Italy's limited LP, MP, and IC and her research and production spread between land army, aviation and navy, the country surely lags behind in terms of units numbers, techs and doctrines, being no match for the Soviet empire.

Interesting to note how the aerial superiority has stalled the Soviet and Turkish advance for many months, despite the AI's weakness in the land defence against the Soviets.

It looks like a critical phase has been left behind. The collapse of the Nazis is near, and the Soviet star is rising. One terrible dictatorship is over, the other begins. The king is dead! Long live the king!
 
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[OOC Comment: watch out, you poor Poles; Uncle Joe will happily sell you down the river.]
Back in the times of the Ottomans, there was a yearly banquet with the ambassadors from every country received in the Porte. After 1790 every year to protest the annexation of Poland (only decades after Sobieski saved their asses from the Turks), before beginning the banquet the Sultan would ask out loud why didn't the Polish ambassador hasn't arrived yet and an aide would announce he is on his way. This tradition went on until Poland was independent again.

At 10am the Romanians had filled in at Kielce, so the Comintern objective list had Chestchowa (north-east of Katowice) added
it's like herding sleepy cats :D

As Katowice was lost,
2 major population centers lost within days :(

So it was that LTGEN Yamut brought 15 Inf Div in to a new blitzing attack on Vienna at 3am.
VUR HA!!!!

By 8am, the excellent news was that 1 Mot and 3 Cav Divs had managed to reinforce in the attack on Vienna – improved Turkish doctrine in this area had really been delivering in recent fighting. But as the odds improved there, so too did the enemy react: Italian mountain troops launched a reckless attack on Yamut’s force at midday – only to be met by another local vicious counter-attack, even as the assault on Vienna was maintained.
Come on guys come on guys! Yamut is dealing justice there!

An hour later, LT Mehtin Sadik led his battle-worn platoon into the centre of Vienna as 15 Inf Div reclaimed it for the UGNR. A quick probe by 16. Infanterie, which had probably been trying to march in to mount a quick defence, was easily seen off (Turkey two, Germany 26 killed). No time was wasted beginning to dig in, as an enemy counter-attack was expected at any time.
Once again, VUR HA!

Poor LT Sadik now got his feet wet as his battalion tried to slip across the river in small boats: he rated his chances of surviving this war as close to zero, having seen so many men around his mown down over the last few years.
Just hold on until the comrades arrive from the east to take some pressure off!

The last two weeks saw Turkey lose 9,438 men to ground combat and a horrendous 24,190 to air strikes – a total of 33,628; battle casualties stood 52,030 for the month-to-date – and still counting.
Pure horror! They're eating us alive from above!

I read the entire episode from the edge of my seat, and curious to see how all will go!
 
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So there actually is an Italian army in the north along with all those HQs. This is good for us, regarding the invasion of Italy...
 
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