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The Turkish government are a collection of yes-men and some ice-cold sociopaths at the top, certainly the ineptitude of SITH provides some comic relief (for me at least), but that just further highlights the graphite grey banality of evil at the top.

A bit like thinking it was better on balance that Stalin beat Hitler, but not liking the consequences of that. You and @TheButterflyComposer are two welcome voices of counter-narrative to the ‘necessary evil’ of the thankfully fictional regime of this AAR.

We certainly haven't been quiet about the evil going on. I'm literally running a demon lord in the game. Idk...i think turkey is not going to be as bad as the soviets and nazis but that's only because they dont have an institutional death policy for undesirables across most of their regime. In persia though...

Who knows? If they get buddied up with the US I imagine they'll get better but if not, then they'll do awful things to keep a hold of the balkans and middle east.

But, if it makes it any easier, setting aside the government etc and just focusing on the game itself, is there merit in hoping a jumped-up anti-Fascist minor can hold out against the German juggernaut and contribute to victory against them? The harsh realities (which I openly catalogue) of the powers that be vs the honest valour of those fighting Fascism on the front line? Another moral quandary to ponder. ;)

Mm...yes from our perspective but given that no one knows what the nazis were really going to do, the turkish are going to look like intense warmongers in the west for the stuff they did in the 30s. And teaming up with the communists and taking over most of europe and north africa plus all the stuff they'll do to their own people...yeah. not good.
 
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We certainly haven't been quiet about the evil going on. I'm literally running a demon lord in the game. Idk...i think turkey is not going to be as bad as the soviets and nazis but that's only because they dont have an institutional death policy for undesirables across most of their regime. In persia though....
I'm not buying that for a second I'm afraid.

Yugoslavia was a thin pretence of a country over a mass of roiling ethnic warfare waiting to happen, but has somehow accepted Turkish overlords. The Greek-Turkey rivalry can be oversold, but it cannot be waved away. Athens and the rest of the country should be a mass of car bombs, assassinations and revolts, yet it is quiet. Ibn Saud only had a country to be King of because of fighting a guerilla war against the Ottomans/Turks, but he just gives up and his country rolls over. And as mentioned, Persia. There's bugger all garrison in these places and while there may be collaborators running local government no-way would the Turks let them have any troops to maintain order (also no-one bar their fellow quislings is going to deal with them). No-one's even taken advantage of the war to rise up and fight for freedom, there were no shortage of Axis leaning movements in OTL, sure at least some of them most have risen up to try and 'liberate' their homeland, or at least 'better run by a German than a Turk' - the wounds of the Ottoman Empire and the Balkan Wars run deep.

The only way I can see the Glorious Union holds it together without being racked by constant revolts is if they are carrying out repression to an extent that would make the Stasi jealous and running 'undesirable' camps that probably take up most of Anatolia. Maybe there isn't an explicit aim to wipe people out, but make no mistake a lot of people will be disappearing into re-education camps (or whatever they call them) never to be seen again.
 
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I'm not buying that for a second I'm afraid.

Yugoslavia was a thin pretence of a country over a mass of roiling ethnic warfare waiting to happen, but has somehow accepted Turkish overlords. The Greek-Turkey rivalry can be oversold, but it cannot be waved away. Athens and the rest of the country should be a mass of car bombs, assassinations and revolts, yet it is quiet. Ibn Saud only had a country to be King of because of fighting a guerilla war against the Ottomans/Turks, but he just gives up and his country rolls over. And as mentioned, Persia. There's bugger all garrison in these places and while there may be collaborators running local government no-way would the Turks let them have any troops to maintain order (also no-one bar their fellow quislings is going to deal with them). No-one's even taken advantage of the war to rise up and fight for freedom, there were no shortage of Axis leaning movements in OTL, sure at least some of them most have risen up to try and 'liberate' their homeland, or at least 'better run by a German than a Turk' - the wounds of the Ottoman Empire and the Balkan Wars run deep.

The only way I can see the Glorious Union holds it together without being racked by constant revolts is if they are carrying out repression to an extent that would make the Stasi jealous and running 'undesirable' camps that probably take up most of Anatolia. Maybe there isn't an explicit aim to wipe people out, but make no mistake a lot of people will be disappearing into re-education camps (or whatever they call them) never to be seen again.
Fortunately, the game is silent on these matters and there have been no revolts for quite some time (there were a few earlier). In terms of the invisible narrative aspects, I’m happy for them to remain in the background. The current settings that do affect these things are quite high but generally not maxed on the repression scale (you need to be a Fascist or Communist dictatorship to do that and the UGNR isn’t there). HOI3 doesn’t really play these aspects, unlike many other PDX games - it’s just a war game at its heart of iron.

I portray the regime as stern but (except for foreign spies) not that internally violent. Kind of like a less extreme USSR. But wondering how it would actually work out is interesting.
 
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The only way I can see the Glorious Union holds it together without being racked by constant revolts is if they are carrying out repression to an extent that would make the Stasi jealous and running 'undesirable' camps that probably take up most of Anatolia. Maybe there isn't an explicit aim to wipe people out, but make no mistake a lot of people will be disappearing into re-education camps (or whatever they call them) never to be seen again.

The current settings that do affect these things are quite high but generally not maxed on the repression scale (you need to be a Fascist or Communist dictatorship to do that and the UGNR isn’t there).

I portray the regime as stern but (except for foreign spies) not that internally violent. Kind of like a less extreme USSR. But wondering how it would actually work out is interesting.

The reason why we pick up the new spies so quickly is that literally the entire population is watched day and night by their neighbours, the police, the secret police, the state and SITH. El Pip is quite right when he says that greece alone should be a dumpster fire right now of rebels and western and fascist backed groups trying to kick us out of their little bit. Yuguslavia and Persia being quiet too means that we've probably been quietly killing literally everyone who twitches for years and have everyone under such survellance that Orwell's in the back taking notes (and spoiling them by weeping).

Our only defence in game and out is thst we arent real fascists or communists...but in universe at least we are the worst of the bunch so far. In fact if we survive the war in our present state, a very large modern slave trade will probably be one of the outcomes, as well as millions of dead, dissapeared and 'exiled' innocents. When the whole thing inevitably comes crashing down, the West is going to have a bugger of a time trying to clear it up.

1984 will probably be scrupulously encouraged into publication as soon as he finishes it by the way. Defending the devil you work with is one thing but the turkish republics? They're evil incarnate and the Britsh government knows it full well.

So...I mean, whatever you want to write of course but upon reflection, we are creating something of a monster here. There's a reason no one in this timeline has batted an eye at Kelebek being present.
 
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The reason why we pick up the new spies so quickly is that literally the entire population is watched day and night by their neighbours, the police, the secret police, the state and SITH. El Pip is quite right when he says that greece alone should be a dumpster fire right now of rebels and western and fascist backed groups trying to kick us out of their little bit. Yuguslavia and Persia being quiet too means that we've probably been quietly killing literally everyone who twitches for years and have everyone under such survellance that Orwell's in the back taking notes (and spoiling them by weeping).

Our only defence in game and out is thst we arent real fascists or communists...but in universe at least we are the worst of the bunch so far. In fact if we survive the war in our present state, a very large modern slave trade will probably be one of the outcomes, as well as millions of dead, dissapeared and 'exiled' innocents. When the whole thing inevitably comes crashing down, the West is going to have a bugger of a time trying to clear it up.

1984 will probably be scrupulously encouraged into publication as soon as he finishes it by the way. Defending the devil you work with is one thing but the turkish republics? They're evil incarnate and the Britsh government knows it full well.

So...I mean, whatever you want to write of course but upon reflection, we are creating something of a monster here. There's a reason no one in this timeline has batted an eye at Kelebek being present.
Cleverly put and another thoughtful exchange with you and @El Pip. But for game’s sake and the zeitgeist of the narrative ... onward down the Path to Glory. :rolleyes: Even if it means rationalising an eventual reverse Operation Unthinkable to get the necessary victory conditions at the end. And thankful (as I’ve mentioned before) that we don’t have to live in this alt-world and the only casualties are electronic. OTL - from then to the present - is bad enough!

All: the next session is played and is in the process of being written up. It will finish with an Emergency Cabinet Meeting agenda. Will try to publish it before I head off for two weeks on holiday this Friday, where I’ll be Talking Tasmania rather than Turkey, so any debate can occur while I’m taking my break (will still be monitoring and responding to discussions, just without game access). And a chance too for anyone catching up to make a bit of headway. :D Thanks all for your continued support. :)
 
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Chapter 141: The Big Squeeze (1 to 4 July 1941)
Chapter 141: The Big Squeeze (1 to 4 July 1941)

1 Jul 41

Some more general reports were presented to the Milli Şef to follow on from the usual monthly summaries, to mark the mid-way point of the crucial year of 1941.

Turkey was clearly the second most powerful Comintern member after the Soviet Union in land forces, and now also in the air.

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The US was still firmly neutral, though diplomacy from the UK ensured they were irrevocably within the Allied bloc in their sympathies. [Three days later, President Roosevelt would make another significant speech on US Independence Day.]

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As War Minister, Inönü also reviewed the allocation of the UGNR’s precious leadership distribution. Given he had the capacity to conduct 10 more diplomatic missions to the Soviets for any future licences, Foreign Minister Aras was instructed to make do with what he had at the moment. With the production of new units and casualties, officer numbers were starting to decrease proportionally [had been up to 113% previously], so the small amount saved was directed there.

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A new ‘cleaned up’ map of the Patriotic Front had been produced for the start of July.

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The start point of the Great Liberation War (the borders as at 1 June 1940) is marked in red, current positions in green [as usual] to make changes since that time a little easier to see. The occupied Romania-UGNR border segment is marked in yellow.

Also, at the President’s request, a map of the proposed ‘Blue Line’ (the possible intermediate defensive line from Tirane on the Adriatic to Sofiya, then across to Varna on the Black Sea) were provided. The first showed where that line lay in relation to the current Turkish sector. It was principally based on hills and mountains (except on the last two eastern provinces), with a small protective buffer around Sofiya.

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The first decision to be made early on the morning of 1 July was over the failing defence of Rudo. Soviet reinforcements had not yet arrived, with 217 SD now apparently heading north-east to Pozega rather than to relieve 17 Inf Div in Rudo. 4 SD was approaching from the south-west but may not arrive in time to make a difference. Despite the odds, they had inflicted significant casualties on the enemy attacking them from Visegrad. Köldecan was ordered to withdraw to join 3 Mtn Div, which was still working up to combat readiness in Pljevlja, in the hills behind the Sava River.

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The rest of the day passed with the forlorn Axis attack on 2 Mtn Div in Nevesinje grinding away (another example of the ‘Haarde Way’ being taken by that unfortunate German divisional commander, who never seems to be given proper support for his attacks). There was no reported air activity during the day or indeed for the next three following.

OTL: Eastern Front. German forces captured Riga.

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2 Jul 41

In Istanbul, the high life continued for many. At a nightclub, a Japanese piano-accordion player squeezed out tunes and requests. Currently, he was playing a composition of his own, though it did sound somewhat discordant: even for a squeezebox!

In the corner of the club, a man in a grey trench coat took shorthand notes. His colleagues scanned the crowd, looking for anyone paying especially close attention to the performance. They could find no-one obvious.

The note-taker looked up after consulting his jottings at the end of the tune. It turned out he was a cryptographer from the Interior Ministry’s counter-intelligence unit. “It’s definitely some kind of code, all right.”

“OK, cuff him boys and we’ll see if we can ‘squeeze’ some info out of him to crack the code as we take him back on the Midnight Express.”

A couple of burly secret policemen nabbed him while he was back stage, so as not to alert any accomplices who may have been in the audience. Perhaps someone would be flushed out later – more likely they would go to ground.

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That’s what you get for playing a piano-accordion in public: all of them should be arrested, whether spies or not! [Apologies to any players or aficionados out there, but, well … ;)]

A message was also received at Army HQ noting supply problems for 3 Mtn Div: it is hoped these won’t persist or interfere with their working-up efforts. COL Diskoerekto will not be pleased if he fails to receive fresh supplies of his favourite beverages and food!

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Rudo fell to the Germans at 6pm; the Soviet 4 SD diverted its move to Pljevlja instead. A further request was made to STAVKA to help defend Užice, where neither of the defending Turkish divisions was yet recovered to full strength.

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17 Inf Div had made good time and now joined 3 Mtn Div in Pljevlja. Having withdrawn while still in fair shape, given a little time they should be able to recover a reasonable level of organisation before they would have to defend the river.

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Entertainment News: US. The biographical film Sergeant York about the life of Alvin C. York was released, starring Gary Cooper in the title role.

(2:29min)
‘Sergeant York’, 1941. It may be about Great War One, but scenes not dissimilar to this are taking place all along the trenches of the Yeniçeri-Danube line. Almost exclusively infantry battles hard fought and without respite.

Late that night, word came through from MAJGEN Türkes in Nevesinje: the German attackers had been thrown back in disorder, having taken heavy casualties. Vur ha!

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“This is excellent news, My General,” said the duty officer enthusiastically.

“It certainly is, Captain. I will retire for the night - but as always, be sure to wake me if anything important happens.”

“Will do, General!”

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3 Jul 41


Just two hours later …

“General, I’m sorry, but you did ask to be woken if anything happened.”

“Yes, what is it.”

He was handed a report:

“One this is Two Mike: contact 0100 hours. Four fresh Axis divisions, one Hungarian and three Italian, attacking from three directions. Defence is hard pressed by shock attack, out!”

It seems the first attack on Nevesinje was a preparatory raid: the main show was now on – and there were no more replacements nearby to throw into the defence. For Inönü, despite the good defensive terrain, the numbers were telling and 2 Mtn Div had only just finished repelling the previous attack. The writing was already on the wall for this part of the Yeniçeri Line, defended so long and successfully until now.

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MAJGEN Türkes has now progressed to Sk1: it’s a rapid learning curve at the front!

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Cennet is now plying the theatre scene in Naples, seeking to rendezvous with her new contact, a young up-and-coming operator making his name (and his bones) in the Neapolitan underworld. She was to meet him in the manager’s office of a small burlesque theatre. As she approaches the office, she witnesses a menacing scene being played out and stays out of sight to watch.

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In Naples, Cennet approaches the back stage of a small theatre, where she has been directed to meet her contact.

“We'll talk about it tomorrow,” says a man sitting at a desk – the theatre manager by the looks of it.

“Tomorrow - always tomorrow. You'll pay me today! You'll pay me today!” says a heavy-set man in a white suit, broad brimmed white hat and sporting a gold tooth. He seizes a young woman standing next to the manager and puts a knife to her face.

“Not my daughter! Let her go! Here take all my money!”

The man in white takes money out of the box offered by the manager, releases the girl and walks away nonchalantly.

A young man, who has also been watching this tawdry little drama, then emerges from the shadows and approaches Cennet. “I’m Vittorio.” They shake hands – this is her contact.

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‘Vittorio’, a junior but ambitious member of the Black Hand in Naples.

“I know what you're thinking," he says. "But that’s how things are here. Don Fanucci there is the local boss of the Black Hand. The whole neighbourhood pays him. They know they have no-one else to protect them. Maybe I will provide that protection one day – as leader of the Black Hand.”

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Don Ignazio Fanucci, leader of the Black Hand in Naples.

“Sure, good luck to you. But I come on business from my patrone,” says Cennet. “Is there somewhere we can speak? Confidentially?”

“Come to my ‘office’ in the afternoon. Here’s the address. We’ll talk then.”

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Back at the front, the situation in Nevesinje steadily deteriorates. By mid-afternoon, Inönü decides that sector of the Yeniçeri Line cannot be held for much longer. 2 Mtn Div is ordered to continue to delay the enemy and soak up the attention of the attacking Axis divisions while 1 Mtn Div completes its retreat to Gacko. It will also cover the withdrawal of HQ 2nd Corps to Kolasin, and the construction of a hasty delaying line extending from Pljevlja to Podgorica and Cetinje (marked in purple on the map below). 11 Inf Div would remain in place for now, to be withdrawn later that evening.

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The main set of initial moves to reorganise the line was made at 3pm that afternoon. In Valjevo, 15 Inf Div, now fully reorganised, would remain to cover the withdrawal of the other units there: 6 Inf Div would link up with HQ 2nd Corps to prepare a hasty river defence in Kolasin, to the south of 3 Mtn Div. 3 Inf Div would move to Podgorica. 7 Inf Div, sent south some time earlier to recover, was sent back forward to prepare the defence of the hills of Centinje on the Adriatic coast. HQ 1st Army Group would be redeployed from Sofiya to Istanbul, replaced by HQ 1st Army, which would finally leave its long-time base in Kraljevo: it now found itself far closer to the front than it had been weeks before. HQ 1st Corps was ordered out of Beograd into Pozega, its slower movement rate a potential problem if Beograd became more isolated and a quick withdrawal was necessary. 11 Inf Div was ordered out to Podgorica at 11pm, once HQ 2nd Corps had a bit of a head start and when 1 Mtn Div was almost in Gacko.

These developments triggered the calling of an Emergency War Cabinet meeting to convene in Istanbul the following night, to decide what to do next. The initial moves were just a short-term tactical response to the anticipated breach of the line at Nevesinje: whether there would be a serious attempt to continue holding the Yeniçeri-Danube Line beyond 4 July would be decided at the Cabinet Meeting.

OTL: Eastern Front. The Battle of Białystok–Minsk ended in German victory. 290,000 Soviet troops with 2,500 tanks surrendered in the Białystok pocket. Joseph Stalin made a broadcast calling on the people of the Soviet Union to pursue a scorched earth policy and conduct guerrilla warfare against the invaders.

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That evening, Perse was a prominent guest at a cocktail reception for British expatriates in Ankara. She mixed easily – and glamorously – among the British and Turkish guests. Here at least, she could talk enthusiastically about her admiration for Winston Churchill – now British Prime Minister and no longer a political outcast – among fellow countrymen. The relationship had become warmer since both countries found themselves sharing a foe, though it would be going too far to say there was deep mutual regard. But Turkey had come to France’s aid in 1940 when the then Government of Chamberlain had done nothing to help them. So British opinion was mixed regarding Turkey: tinged with a degree of guilt over the fate of their two principal allies, Poland and then France. But also lingering suspicion about Turkish expansion in the pre-war years, especially in Greece.

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Perse mixes among the influential guests at the British Embassy reception. She has many men paying her close attention – though not Tom Rosencrantz: the firebrand Communist activist is persona non grata at the British Embassy.

“So lovely to meet a true English Rose here among the cultural wasteland of Ankara!” oozes one ingratiating Englishman.

“We all serve as we must in this time of war,” replies Perse, attempting to give him the brush-off. “The Turks may not be to our liking sometimes, but they fight the common enemy. And I help them do it.”

“Each to their own,” he says. “Perhaps you could offer me some – personal advice.”

“Some other time, perhaps,” says Perse as she deftly avoids this unctuous suitor. What an odious little creature, she thinks to herself. Not like darling young Tom at all.

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4 Jul 41

Another contact report was received on the secure land line from HQ 3rd Corps during the early hours – the ‘dog watch’ – this time from Pozarevac on the until-now quiet Danube Line:

“This is Yamut. The enemy – Germans and Hungarian infantry – are trying to establish a bridgehead across the Danube in Pozarevac, attacking from Panavo and Vrsac. They are having a hard time of it so far. All looks fine for now, but I will let you know if they bring up reinforcements.”

“Very well sir. Should we inform the Milli Şef? He is resting.”

“I think this can wait till the morning. I’ll let you know if things get urgent.”

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A rare direct report from the Far East is received not much later: the Romanians had occupied the Mongolian province of Ulankom, just south of Kyzyl, after the fall of their ally. The Japanese were now in possession of it, giving a second flank on the Tannu Tuvan capital. The Romanians, through Agent RasaUrs75, also reported that a number of Romanian units had been released to return to their homeland and, accompanied by some Soviet formations, are now approaching from the east, north of the Crimea.

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The Romanian sector of the line is currently quite active, with the Baja de Arama Gap now being plugged by at least one Soviet rifle division, with others approaching from Lupeni.

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The next news to break was a new Axis attack on the 15 Inf Div rear guard in Valjevo: the enemy had waited until the other two divisions had exited before commencing a strong assault, enveloping the defenders from three directions, outnumbering Gataly’s veteran division by four-to-one. 15 Inf Div would only be asked to hold for a short time – otherwise they would be badly damaged. Following their withdrawal, Beograd would be left in a salient. The attack on Pozarevac continued to the west.

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The new holding line when 15 Inf Div is withdrawn is marked in purple.

With expenditure on upgrades and reinforcements lower than in recent days, there was enough excess industrial capacity to put two new militia brigades into training. They would be ready in just a little over two months and could either form a new binary militia division, augment one or two of the current binary militia divisions holding on the Blue Line, or be added to bolster HQ 4th Corps.

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1 Mtn Div finally completed its tortuous retreat to Gacko from Nevesinje at 10am. It was immediately put on trucks and sent to the mountains of Podgorica, where (if it could recover in time) it could be of great defensive value. The tactical positions in Nevesinje and Valjevo continued to steadily worsen – the kind of constant pressure that staff officers had begun to refer to as the ‘big squeeze’.

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Three hours later, as 15 Inf Div prepared to pull out of Valjevo, the defences of Pozega were reviewed. 1 Cav Div was back up to full efficiency, but both 13 Inf Div and 3 Cav Div had recovered less than 50% of their organisation. They were defending open country with no river to provide an obstacle to an attack from Valjevo.

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2 Mtn Div was ordered out of Nevesinje at 9pm that night, their screening job completed. With the enemy now advancing on Metkovic, there was no desire for them to risk being outflanked and cut off. Given the odds, they had accounted for themselves as well as could be expected.

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An hour later, 15 Inf Div was also ordered to fall back from Valjevo to Pozega before they were too badly mauled. Corporal Metin Sadik would live to fight another day – as would those of his squad members who had survived to that point. But casualties had been heavy – being caught outnumbered and in the open, even without enemy air attack, had proven costly. The only Axis attack still being contested was at Pozarevac, where the situation remained relatively favourable: though a German panzer division had now been spotted assembling in Vrsac.

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OTL: Eastern Front. The Germans captured Ostrov in northern Russia and a bridge over the Dnieper at Rogatchev.

News Report: Washington DC, US. President Roosevelt makes an Independence Day broadcast warning that "the United States will never survive as a happy and fertile oasis of liberty surrounded by a cruel desert of dictatorship. And so it is that when we repeat the great pledge to our country and to our flag, it must be our deep conviction that we pledge as well our work, our will, and, if it be necessary, our very lives."

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Emergency War Cabinet Meeting of 4 July 1941 - Agenda

The agenda for the meeting, to be held in Istanbul on the night of 4 July 1941, is below. Notes broadly describing the intent of each option are also included. [For the purposes of consideration, we will assume all readAARs received this agenda earlier in the day and assembled that night as the war continued until midnight. Any decisions by the Milli Şef following the Cabinet meeting would be implemented early on the morning of 5 July.]

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War Ministry and Supreme HQ descriptive notes for each option:

Option 1: An immediate and expeditious withdrawal to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines. No formal intermediate delay positions will be occupied, once an initial fighting withdrawal is conducted from current positions. The intent is to make as clean a break as possible, minimise casualties and ensure the Army of the UGNR is preserved for the fight ahead and manpower is not wasted in defending inferior lines before those already prepared. The key centres of Beograd and Sofiya would be surrendered, while the defence of Romania will be the responsibility of the Soviet and Romanian Armies.

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Option 1: 'Precipitate Withdrawal' or 'Plan Yellow'.

Option 2: Continued initial delay on the Yeniçeri-Danube Line followed by a withdrawal in depth to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines. The current Yeniçeri-Danube Line will be held for as long as possible, including the use of local delay lines. Badly damaged units will be the first to be withdrawn and will be moved by strategic redeployment straight back to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines, as under Option 1. The aim will be to impose maximum delay in superior defensive positions (ie current and final), though risking some increased manpower losses in return. The hope would be the additional delay imposed will allow initially withdrawn (thinned) units to reconstitute in depth by the time the rearguard units arrive at the final defensive lines.

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Option 2: 'Shoot and Scoot' or 'Plan Green'.

Option 3: Maximum delay using an intermediate defence on the Tirane-Sofiya-Varna (Blue) Line, followed by an anticipated withdrawal in depth to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines. Based on a light initial delaying defence of the Yeniçeri-Danube Line, with a significant number of units immediately beginning to occupy and fortify the Blue Line from Tirane-Sofiya-Varna. A further withdrawal to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines would be anticipated after further delay has been imposed at the Blue Line. Aim is to keep Beograd, Sofiya and Romania in the war as long as possible and impose maximum attrition on the enemy. Of course, this option exposes UGNR forces to the highest degree of risk and would absorb additional manpower for reinforcements.

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Option 3: 'The Bitter End' or 'Plan Blue'.

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Summaries

In the first four days of July, on the Patriotic Front the Soviets and Germans have exchanged ground in Russia, with no more ground conceded (yet) in Romania and just Rudo lost in the UGNR. But more ground is on the point of being conceded in the Balkans.

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The provisional 'Blue Line' in the Balkans has been marked for reference.

In the Balkans, the Battle of Pozarevac continues in the Turkish sector. The odds remain favourable, despite 11 Pz Division recently joining the enemy reserve. The wooded river line is proving a significant obstacle, while having a superior commander (General Yamut, Chief of the Army and Commander 3rd Corps) in charge of the defence has also paid dividends, 14 Inf Div being one of the formations without a dedicated leader.

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The situation in the south of the Romanian sector remains fluid, with Baja de Arama now seemingly firmly held, securing the Turkish eastern flank and providing a strong position for the rest of the Soviet units caught in the Lupeni Salient to withdraw through. But to the north of that, the line looks insecure, with a number of Comintern units withdrawing in the face of Axis attacks.

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And by midnight, the staged realignment of the western flank of the Yeniçeri Line was progressing. Whether there would be an attempt to seriously hold this line or a more general retreat would be sounded was to be determined at the Emergency War Cabinet Meeting being held late on the night of 4 July.

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The Far East continued its slow descent, with Tannu Tuva now seriously threatened.

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AuthAAR’s Note: My two (and a bit) week holiday now commences. :) This will allow those catching up on the story some time to do that and to have a good debate in Cabinet over the broad strokes of what to do next in the Balkans. I’ll still be checking in during that time, but no further update is likely until approaching mid-December. In essence, the main questions are: should we attempt to hold the current line for a while longer and endure the Big Squeeze of the Axis? Is the Blue Line worth attempting to hold for a while? Or should we cut our losses and go all the way back to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines (great terrain, narrow fronts, forts and provincial AA defences) when it is decided to break from the Yeniçeri-Danube Line?

Thanks to everyone (readers and contributors) for your support!
 
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A nice and long chapter. Happy holiday
 
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So British opinion was mixed regarding Turkey: tinged with a degree of guilt over the fate of their two principal allies, Poland and then France. But also lingering suspicion about Turkish expansion in the pre-war years, especially in Greece.

Mm...and a growing distaste for what the turks are doing to keep their new empire intact.

Perse mixes among the influential guests at the British Embassy reception. She has many men paying her close attention – though not Tom Rosencrantz: the firebrand Communist activist is persona non grata at the British Embassy.

And of course, the embassy is heavily under watch by SITH and state sec for spies and traitors. This party has several visible sec men and women moving around and a couple dozen invisibles. This is under keeping Kelebek's orders to keep a firm grip on Perse, one of the greatest potential security risks left in the republic.

“We all serve as we must in this time of war,” replies Perse, attempting to give him the brush-off. “The Turks may not be to our liking sometimes, but they fight the common enemy. And I help them do it.”

This remark seems to imply she is at least somewhat aware of her handlers and bodyguards 'other' purpose but her loyalty is as of yet unquestioned. However, her fondness for british firebrands leads much to be desired.

News Report: Washington DC, US. President Roosevelt makes an Independence Day broadcast warning that "the United States will never survive as a happy and fertile oasis of liberty surrounded by a cruel desert of dictatorship. And so it is that when we repeat the great pledge to our country and to our flag, it must be our deep conviction that we pledge as well our work, our will, and, if it be necessary, our very lives."

S.I.T.H. have thus far managed to keep quiet our methods from the Americans, as it is assumed they would object strenuously to pretty much everything that we and the government do. However, we cannot keep a lid on our shall we say velvet covered iron fist for long. The british already know too much.

Emergency War Cabinet Meeting of 4 July 1941 - Agenda

The agenda for the meeting, to be held in Istanbul on the night of 4 July 1941, is below. Notes broadly describing the intent of each option are also included. [For the purposes of consideration, we will assume all readAARs received this agenda earlier in the day and assembled that night as the war continued until midnight. Any decisions by the Milli Şef following the Cabinet meeting would be implemented early on the morning of 5 July.]

SITH is advised that no dissension will be tolerated in the capital over the next few weeks from anyone. The protection and satefy of our armed forces heads and state representstives is parmount and surmounted only by loyalty to the republic. Thus they shall have a guard of ten personsat all times and be watched around the clock. A traffic cordon and press blackout of the city centre will be in effect for the entire period.

Kelebek and the entire inner sanctum are arriving to oversee the final stages of this operation and take part in the debates. It is therefore prudent to remember that we are being held tp the highest standards possible and that nothing shall go awry. At all.

It is also noted that Kelebek at this time shall also be completing the circumvention of the government led intelligence services and the war department in our general campaign to gain control over all aspects of state security, defence and armed forces. The actual army heads are indoctrinated already, and the cabinet bar the usual suspects are under control. We find these actions regretable but necessary to contiue the republic for any length of time. It is clear they lack the stomachs to do what needs to be done to keep the populus in line.

The key centres of Beograd and Sofiya would be surrendered, while the defence of Romania will be the responsibility of the Soviet and Romanian Armies.

As i see it, this is not a good idea because it means romania shall fall within weeks. They are already about to be flanked in the north by germany. Retreating and leaving the entire south clear for invasion too would just kill them. Awful for morale and terrible for future relations with russia and romania. Would not advise even being contemplated further. We'd be leaving them out to dry and any further resistance against Germany on their part afterwards would only heighten hatred towards us.

The hope would be the additional delay imposed will allow initially withdrawn (thinned) units to reconstitute in depth by the time the rearguard units arrive at the final defensive lines.

In essence the decision is going to be made between option 2 and 3 based on this above comment. Can the troops be reinforced in time and would it be worth it in the men we'd lose at the front whilst they reinforce?

Aim is to keep Beograd, Sofiya and Romania in the war as long as possible and impose maximum attrition on the enemy.

See above.

But more ground is on the point of being conceded in the Balkans.

See above concerns about russia losing the northern romanian border regions to germany.

The Far East continued its slow descent, with Tannu Tuva now seriously threatened.

This really isnt good news. If japan makes it all the way up siberia to the point where they only have to point west and walk slwoly forwards, russia might be screwed even if we do win in the west. We certainly cant help them out over there.

This will allow those catching up on the story some time to do that and to have a good debate in Cabinet over the broad strokes of what to do next in the Balkans.

And also outside the meetings, for the whole leadership of the republics to meet for the first time in years and politik and scheme. K's plans will not be the only ones going on. I imagine the army will be trying to claim the growing airforce for its own whilst the various leaders of the war in the balkans try to compete for operation control/prestige.

should we attempt to hold the current line for a while longer and endure the Big Squeeze of the Axis?

Probably but for how long and where?

Is the Blue Line worth attempting to hold for a while?

See above.

should we cut our losses and go all the way back to the Iskandar-Calistar Lines (great terrain, narrow fronts, forts and provincial AA defences) when it is decided to break from the Yeniçeri-Danube Line?

Probably not but lets see what the army advisors and chiefs say, eh?

Kelebek out.
 
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The good thing about the Calistar line is that we can use a small naval task force to keep anyone from crossing the Gulf of Corinth. Likewise for the Canakkale, which frees up significant forces--specifically our mobile forces--for possible bold ground offensives to eliminate enemy forces in detail in other sectors. As far as I can recall, the Italians still control much of Libya and Malta. From there, we can cause havoc for the Italians at home, which will force the Germans to thin their forces even further to assist with defending Italy.

Thus, I recommend Plan Green. From there, once forces are in position, we can determine how to move from the strategic defensive to an operational offensive.
 
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COL Diskoerekto will not be pleased if he fails to receive fresh supplies of his favourite beverages and food!
well, zorkun pide and ayran is what keeps us from attrition:D

I’ll be quoting Atatürk in the war cabinet: “Hattı müdafaa yoktur, sathı müdafaa vardır. O satıh bütün vatandır. Vatanın her karış toprağı, vatandaşın kanıyla ıslanmadıkça terk olunamaz…” “There is no defense line, but a defense territory, and that territory is the whole of the motherland. Not even an inch of the motherland may be abandoned without being soaked in the blood of her citizens...”

Enjoy your vacation, any destination? I’m around Thailand / Singapore these weeks.
 
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The good thing about the Calistar line is that we can use a small naval task force to keep anyone from crossing the Gulf of Corinth. Likewise for the Canakkale, which frees up significant forces--specifically our mobile forces--for possible bold ground offensives to eliminate enemy forces in detail in other sectors. As far as I can recall, the Italians still control much of Libya and Malta. From there, we can cause havoc for the Italians at home, which will force the Germans to thin their forces even further to assist with defending Italy.

Thus, I recommend Plan Green. From there, once forces are in position, we can determine how to move from the strategic defensive to an operational offensive.
will reply to recommendations IDC, but some excellent advice in there re the straits.

PS: Malta was never taken, so remains in British hands, as does Bengasi (and Cagliari).
well, zorkun pide and ayran is what keeps us from attrition:D

I’ll be quoting Atatürk in the war cabinet: “Hattı müdafaa yoktur, sathı müdafaa vardır. O satıh bütün vatandır. Vatanın her karış toprağı, vatandaşın kanıyla ıslanmadıkça terk olunamaz…” “There is no defense line, but a defense territory, and that territory is the whole of the motherland. Not even an inch of the motherland may be abandoned without being soaked in the blood of her citizens...”

Enjoy your vacation, any destination? I’m around Thailand / Singapore these weeks.
Heading to Tasmania. Some great country there and hooking up with friends I’ve known for many years. Have been to Thailand a few times and Singapore many (was there earlier this year for my last work trip). Enjoy! :)
 
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will reply to recommendations IDC, but some excellent advice in there re the straits.

PS: Malta was never taken, so remains in British hands, as does Bengasi...

Sorry, I think I confused the strategic situation here with the one in Eurasia's game. Anyways, I think my point stands: with the freed up units, we start picking away at the sides and exposed flanks of the enemy, because at that point we will have the freedom of maneuver whereas they will be focused on their Main Enemy of the Soviet Union.
 
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Sorry, I think I confused the strategic situation here with the one in Eurasia's game. Anyways, I think my point stands: with the freed up units, we start picking away at the sides and exposed flanks of the enemy, because at that point we will have the freedom of maneuver whereas they will be focused on their Main Enemy of the Soviet Union.


Ah yes the old idea we've been kicking around for a while. If the ships and seas can be cleared, great. Otherwise, i think it wpuld just be sending a quarter of our army to die in a metal bucket.
 
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Ah yes the old idea we've been kicking around for a while. If the ships and seas can be cleared, great. Otherwise, i think it wpuld just be sending a quarter of our army to die in a metal bucket.

I'm fairly certain that the Italian and German powers have no heavy units left which could honestly counter our (even extremely old) battle cruiser together with the other units we have left. Furthermore, it would be a chance for our mobile units to gain some experience for further operations.
 
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I'm fairly certain that the Italian and German powers have no heavy units left which could honestly counter our (even extremely old) battle cruiser together with the other units we have left. Furthermore, it would be a chance for our mobile units to gain some experience for further operations.

Mmhm. This is true as it was last time. We need a good target and enough soldiers free to carry it out.
 
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All true, @TheButterflyComposer and @Wraith11B, but first I’d need to have a stable line on a shorter front so a decent amount of troops can be spared for such adventures. Which is really the Iskandar-Calistar Lines.

How to get there and how quickly, though? This is the key question. :confused:
 
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That's why I made my recommendation Plan Green: hold for a bit, scoot back to the main line of resistance and then ascertain what sort of forces we will have available to take the fight to the enemy...
 
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That's why I made my recommendation Plan Green: hold for a bit, scoot back to the main line of resistance and then ascertain what sort of forces we will have available to take the fight to the enemy...

The word resistance reminds me. Have you thought about preparing some Partisan Cells in enemy occupied territory?
 
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The word resistance reminds me. Have you thought about preparing some Partisan Cells in enemy occupied territory?

In universe, that's pretty much what all our romanian and yugslavian agents have been dping since the start of the war. Gamewise, I'm unsure what it entails in this version. HOI4 tends to favour focus tree insurgencies, event ones and ones you can manually buy using a mixture of 200 poltical points and as many guns as you can stuff into their hands. Mind you, the rebellion start postion is the only thing garunteed using the latter method, with the only way of getting loads of rebbelious troops is having a signifcant second party in the target country, a rarity in HOI4 after a few years active gameplay.

Since we are spending most of our poltical capital getting as much stuff from the commies as possible and holding the republics together, creating armed rebel groups might be beyond us. Supporting existing groups however...

And I agree on the naval strikes. Put simply, we cannot plan anything like them beyond what we've already mused about, because before that we need to do some pretty large scale troop and front realignments. And then stablise and hold the new defences. And then check our supply and reserve situation. Only then can we start to plan what little we'd have left for striking back. Not to say it isn't an attractive prospect and if done right, a proper smack against the axis, we just have to be patient.

And...pray the brits hold in africa.
 
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The word resistance reminds me. Have you thought about preparing some Partisan Cells in enemy occupied territory?
Not yet, but I should investigate. Have never really played them before.
 
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