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fasquardon said:

He did! :p

Well, I did some quick and dirty tests, and in every battle with a decent sized army the Emir of Seville does very well for themselves - shockingly so, in fact, seeming to paste any Provencal army I try against it with some ease... The tech difference between Spanish Provence & Seville is negligable, so it's not that, Provence had equal or better leaders than the Sevillians, so it's not that. Seville does have a significant edge in heavy infantry and archers though, so it might be that, though I'm not sure that such an edge would result in quite such an advantage on the battlefield.

Funny I thought there wasn't much to unit composition, except that knights win.

It's cool you ran tests. Hopefully you could adjust his power buttons and see whether Seville still wins against burghers.

j.
 
Llywelyn said:
You really in your heart of hearts know it's stupid to put all your desmesne provinces together like that, right? Especially with a huge, rich, Crusade targetted religious enemy next door.

How is it stupid? Most people actually have their demesne provinces together!

Llywelyn said:
Still curious if it wasn't somehow related to a bonus for Crusade victims to make them more "challenging" in sp games.

I couldn't say it was or it wasn't but it sure wasn't "fair" in game terms.

Llywelyn said:
That's a nice blank map you're using. Where can I get me one like it?

I didn't use a blank map, I just cropped, resized and edited a map in Photoshop. Here's the original:

http://www.phschool.com/atschool/realidades/images/map_west_europe_political.jpg

Llywelyn said:
It was good playing with you. If your bitterness towards to game engine tempers with time, it'd be nice to see you in the next game everyone joins up for. Maybe something in one of the empires. Maybe Angleland. Maybe Russia.

I'm not bitter, it's just that I don't feel like spending my time playing so that the game can then annihilate me at a moment's notice.
 
hello

hello i am rather new to this Mp Ck um i play it alot but the ai is boring me. um if i can i would like to get into a multi player game ( perhaps this one) or wait for a new one to spring up. if i could have help with that it would be nice. these threds and the whole fourm for that matter have confused me so much.

Thank you
 
BTW, next time (if there is one), i´ll be trying to keep away from Western Europe, bad things usually happen to me there... :D
 
Shuma said:
How did Toulouse do under the AI?

Alright, the AI finnished eating Barcellona for you. I'd say they're the most powerful Duchy in France at the moment (in terms of raw power at least, being AI'd makes them alot less influencial then they could be).

Melle said:
How many years have past so far?

20 years.

Ganso said:
BTW, next time (if there is one), i´ll be trying to keep away from Western Europe, bad things usually happen to me there...

So, we'll give you a call after we annex Germany then? ;)

FireAndFrost said:
hello i am rather new to this Mp Ck um i play it alot but the ai is boring me. um if i can i would like to get into a multi player game ( perhaps this one) or wait for a new one to spring up. if i could have help with that it would be nice. these threds and the whole fourm for that matter have confused me so much.

You're welcome to join this game. All you need to play is CK, the latest patch and the Improvement Packs installed (you can find those in the Crusader Kings - Public beta section of the forum). The game happens every Saturday at 1600 British time. You can find us in Vnet a bit before the start time usually.

As far as making this thread more comprehensable, you have a good point. Can we have the player list/open places list and the rules of the game entered into the first post Manstein? (Or just the rules added to the second post, Oka?)

fasquardon
 
canadiancreed said:
lol. man what a nuthouse. This game has everything going :D

Just out of curiosity, what duchies are left?

No one is Flanders, Toulouse or Brittany at the moment, but that's because they've all been torched. Toulouse would have to be edited back into existance.

Not sure if there are any untainted ones left...

Otoh, Fas has been pining for someone to play the king of France. The other players are at least partially interested in taking it over, though, so you'd be putting yourself in the crosshairs, especially if you set the scutage higher than 0. Plus you couldn't ever count on raising anyone's troops but your own.

F&F said:
I don't get it

Not sure what's so confusing, myself, but welcome to the forums! After you check out the wiki and the FAQs, free to ask any question you have and a Veldmaarschalk will be along to assist you. :D

j.
 
fasquardon said:
Alright, the AI finnished eating Barcellona for you. I'd say they're the most powerful Duchy in France at the moment (in terms of raw power at least, being AI'd makes them alot less influencial then they could be).



20 years.



So, we'll give you a call after we annex Germany then? ;)



You're welcome to join this game. All you need to play is CK, the latest patch and the Improvement Packs installed (you can find those in the Crusader Kings - Public beta section of the forum). The game happens every Saturday at 1600 British time. You can find us in Vnet a bit before the start time usually.

As far as making this thread more comprehensable, you have a good point. Can we have the player list/open places list and the rules of the game entered into the first post Manstein? (Or just the rules added to the second post, Oka?)

fasquardon

Thank you thank you i will be there with out a miss.
 
Llywelyn said:
No one is Flanders, Toulouse or Brittany at the moment, but that's because they've all been torched. Toulouse would have to be edited back into existance.

Actually Toulouse is one of the most powerful Duchies around - that was CSK's Duchy in the first session, and Shuma's laying claim to it for when he gets his router sorted.

Looking around the map for unclaimed decent Duchies in the general area of France:

Within France itself, the Duchy Valois.

Within England, the Duchy of Normandy.

Independants, the Duchy of Holland.

Within Burgundy, the Duchy of Dauphine.

Within Germany, the Duchy of Upper Lorraine

Llywelyn said:
Otoh, Fas has been pining for someone to play the king of France. The other players are at least partially interested in taking it over, though, so you'd be putting yourself in the crosshairs, especially if you set the scutage higher than 0. Plus you couldn't ever count on raising anyone's troops but your own.

Yeah, King of France is not likely to be easy to play by any means... Nor is it indespensible to the game to have a king of France.

fasquardon
 
fasquardon said:
Actually Toulouse is one of the most powerful Duchies around - that was CSK's Duchy in the first session, and Shuma's laying claim to it for when he gets his router sorted.

Well actualy I laid claim to it in the beginning, and CSK subbed for me the first session. As the AI probably did not respect the one muslim DOW per ruler rule, if I manage to get in the next session I'll concentrate on economic build and helping you guys with your wars mentioned in the Diplomacy thread.
 
Shuma said:
Well actualy I laid claim to it in the beginning, and CSK subbed for me the first session. As the AI probably did not respect the one muslim DOW per ruler rule, if I manage to get in the next session I'll concentrate on economic build and helping you guys with your wars mentioned in the Diplomacy thread.

Yes, I realise that, I was just saying who'd played it in the first session.

fasquardon
 
By the way, what happened to my former vassals? I suppose they became part of Burgundy.
 
Fas said:
Actually...

My mistake. I meant Provence.

Shoomy called dibs on Toulouse. Looking at that list, I just would want a new player to be sure - Holland's not still at war with Germany, is it?

Ganso said:
By the way, what happened to my former vassals? I suppose they became part of Burgundy.

indy.
 
Llywelyn said:
Shoomy called dibs on Toulouse. Looking at that list, I just would want a new player to be sure - Holland's not still at war with Germany, is it?

Nope, Holland is at peace.

Ganso said:
By the way, what happened to my former vassals? I suppose they became part of Burgundy.

Other than the one vassal vassilised by dauphine, and the ones in spain that have been conquered, all of them are independant Ganso.

fasquardon
 
By Fasquardon in the name of our lord two thousand and six, Novembre the twenty.

"As far as making this thread more comprehensable, you have a good point. Can we have the player list/open places list and the rules of the game entered into the first post Manstein? (Or just the rules added to the second post, Oka?)"

I will update the second post ONLY if you send me the rules by PM, however i'm glad to add an open places list.
 
fasquardon said:
Seville does have a significant edge in heavy infantry and archers though, so it might be that, though I'm not sure that such an edge would result in quite such an advantage on the battlefield.
Could that be the reason? Usually the shooting phase can destroy a lot of morale, especially with a high amount of archers. If the morale is rather low anyway, the archers can make a bigger and usually stronger army flee.

So anyone needing a sub next session? Again, Shuma, if your router problem isn't fixed until then, I guess. Otherwise somebody else... Whoever asks first gets me subbing him.

Edit: About including the rules etc in the first post, you could also PM a request to one of the mods and ask them to include your list into the first post.
 
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Say, with this talk of claiming kingships for relatives and eating Byzantium over in the Dip thread, are people planning on making themselves independant kings in the course of the game? Or is the plan to remain French-afiliated Duchies until the end of CK?

fasquardon
 
fasquardon said:
Say, with this talk of claiming kingships for relatives and eating Byzantium over in the Dip thread, are people planning on making themselves independant kings in the course of the game? Or is the plan to remain French-afiliated Duchies until the end of CK?

fasquardon

i've just read a book on l'Anjou and they succeeded in becoming kings of Hungary and Naples...

I think we should stick to the rules until... 1300, 1350? Then then next 50 years can be spent on making a proper EU2 state.