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In Götterdämmerung Chapter 372: Total War the Angeloi set up puppet states in with Taiwan becoming a Republic of China, Qiandao the Republic of Qiandao and Sulawesi Republic. I was thinking about possible inspiration you could use with those three. So far I was thinking that the ROC be based off of OTL's Republic of Formosa and Wang Jingwei's Republic China while Qiandao could be based off of the Second Philippine Republic?

I am unsure about what to do with Sulawesi. Mabey inspire TTl's Indonesians to fight for their independence in the Cold War?
I will probably retcon them all away since my primary motivation for adding them was "haha funny reference." They'll just be military occupations with some local collaborators.
Probably whenever the Paulluists took over.
As for the Angeloi invasion of Japan maybe you could have TTL's Tojo be similar to OTL's "Bose" in that he was a collaborator with the Angeloi to try and force independence instead of the more gradual process that "Hirohito" advocated only to fail like Bose did in OTL?
Perhaps as a collaborator.
One possible idea if you decide to keep the in game decision in Nanjing could be that it was a series of extensions to the existing palace instead of a completely new one?
Another of my past assumptions and rationalizations, which turned out to be incorrect. Due to its size and design, the Forbidden City can't be made as a simple add-on to the Ming Imperial Palace, which is why I decided to make it the summer palace. That doesn't quite make sense either since the Forbidden City was always designed to be a "main" palace, but I'll go with it for now.
I remember reading on the Code Geass Reddit and seeing a thread on why Britannia despite being an Empire was not as racist against non whites since there are characters like Villetta Nu as a member of the Purist Faction and Dorothea Ernst being the Knight of Four. One commenter suggested that Britannian racism was similar to what it was in antiquity in that those born within the Empire were considered citizens and those that were born outside it like their conquered peoples were discriminated against regardless of race. This seems to be the case in TTL since once Jurusalem forms all you needed to be was straight, German and Christian and you were a citizen race did not appear to have been a factor?
Racism developed along different lines in the Hohenzollernverse, which is why I never use the terms "white" or "black" (even if similar terms had started emerging in the medieval era to differentiate Christian Europeans from Muslim Arabs and North Africans). The Reich primarily labels people based on language and geography: French are French speakers (usually in France), Poles are Polish speakers (usually in Poland), Germans are German speakers (with regional differences) and so on. A dichotomy of European compared to non-European emerged as the Reich expanded into South Eimerica, sub-saharan Africa, and Southeast Asia, though most people just used the linguistic labels for convenience. In the modern era, "European" becomes accepted to refer to people with lighter skin colors characteristic of having ancestors from Europe, "African" for African people, and so on. Modern genetics allows people to start defining ethnicities in terms of what genes they have, but most people stick with the linguistic/geographic distinctions they're used to since it's more obvious in day to day life. Most Roman racism is cultural or religious, rooted in the belief in Christian German/Greek-centered Romanitas being the "superior" model of civilization. Sure, it has almost always been the case in the Reich that anybody can be a Roman, but in practice those who fully adopt German/Greek culture and Christianity can best enjoy the benefits of Roman society. That's where you have the systemic discrimination against the French, Poles, and Arabs who violently resisted the Reich, the Islamophobia against the Muslims who were Friedrich the Great's main enemies in the (officially) religiously-motivated Crusades, and the continued marginalization of Africans in the 21st century. Jerusalem, meanwhile, has an even more restrictive concept of Romanitas, believing that only Christian Germans (hewing to their particular sect) can be Romans and that everybody must be thrown in the melting pot of Romanitas to discard their "barbarian" non-Roman cultures and become Christian German Romans.
Building on this discussion, how would the eugenics movement develop in TTL?
Since the Reich stuck to older conceptions of race and racial differences based on language and geography, eugenics would develop much the same as it did, only in a "race-neutral" way. Some would see it as a way of achieving true Romanitas by creating the ideal Roman people through selecting the best genes, no matter where someone came from or their skin color. On the other hand, it also means that those with bad genes are not Roman and thus looked down upon. The Indians develop it based on their emerging understanding of the Indo-Aryan migrations, deeming the descendants of Indo-Aryans the "true" Indians and everybody else (Muslims especially) as either foreigners or subhumans to be swept aside. I can imagine "Gandhi" making full use of rhetoric proclaiming the superiority of the Aryan race and the annihilation of the Muslims he calls invaders and traitors.
 
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Most Roman racism is cultural or religious, rooted in the belief in Christian German/Greek-centered Romanitas being the "superior" model of civilization. Sure, it has almost always been the case in the Reich that anybody can be a Roman, but in practice those who fully adopt German/Greek culture and Christianity can best enjoy the benefits of Roman society.
I know that you said that Roman racism is more cultural and religious based but this part is giving me more "White Man's Burden" vibes in how as you said "Christian German/Greek-centered Romanitas being the "superior"" but using cultural and religion instead of race so it is more of a "German/Greek Man's Burden"?
 
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I know that you said that Roman racism is more cultural and religious based but this part is giving me more "White Man's Burden" vibes in how as you said "Christian German/Greek-centered Romanitas being the "superior"" but using cultural and religion instead of race so it is more of a "German/Greek Man's Burden"?
Exactly. Racism still exists under another form, focusing on culture and civilization instead of skin color. So Ethiopians can be considered civilized in the same sentence denouncing other sub-Saharan Africans as barbarians. Though the Roman colonial policy in sub-Saharan Africa was to leave local institutions and organizations in place as much as possible, with the hope that they would slowly adopt civilized culture on their own with Roman guidance. It would be a "Roman man's burden" to bring civilization to the barbarians, as the empire always had since the days of Caesar.
 
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Exactly. Racism still exists under another form, focusing on culture and civilization instead of skin color. So Ethiopians can be considered civilized in the same sentence denouncing other sub-Saharan Africans as barbarians. Though the Roman colonial policy in sub-Saharan Africa was to leave local institutions and organizations in place as much as possible, with the hope that they would slowly adopt civilized culture on their own with Roman guidance. It would be a "Roman man's burden" to bring civilization to the barbarians, as the empire always had since the days of Caesar.
So Roman cultural chauvinism would be similar to Sinocentrism then, hence why Han's China is so simlar to Jerusalem. While we're here, since Indian racism seems to lean on the pseudoscientific side, while Roman nationalism and Sinocentrism is more cultural, where would Persia's nationalism and xenophobia lie in the spectrum and how would it develop?
 
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So Roman cultural chauvinism would be similar to Sinocentrism then, hence why Han's China is so simlar to Jerusalem. While we're here, since Indian racism seems to lean on the pseudoscientific side, while Roman nationalism and Sinocentrism is more cultural, where would Persia's nationalism and xenophobia lie in the spectrum and how would it develop?
Like the Reich, Persia's own racism is rooted in cultural aspects, but more religious and rooted in Zoroastrian dualism. Persia and Zoroastrian Persians are good, the others are evil and servants of Angra Mainyu. Who exactly is considered "other" depends on the faction and the circumstances of the time.
 
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I like the implication that the Rus' paganism starts at the POD of Sviastoslav surviving his assassination attempt, that's a MASSIVE butterfly effect right there. Does this mean Olga of Kyiv never was canonized as a saint then because her canonization apparently happened sometime in the 13th century OTL, which by that point the Rus are pretty much entrenched Pagans, or are you still going to make her a Saint, albiet for the Christian Rus that migrated to Taurica?

Also I can imagine the amount of podcasts and discussions concerning Kirill's role, a big what if had he been victorious in either as a Roman Imperator or a Rusian Tsar. There's probably some play Shakespeare would right in TTL of his tragedy that's for sure.
 
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I like the implication that the Rus' paganism starts at the POD of Sviastoslav surviving his assassination attempt, that's a MASSIVE butterfly effect right there. Does this mean Olga of Kyiv never was canonized as a saint then because her canonization apparently happened sometime in the 13th century OTL, which by that point the Rus are pretty much entrenched Pagans, or are you still going to make her a Saint, albiet for the Christian Rus that migrated to Taurica?
I'll have the Reich and its Christian Rusians adopting her as a saint, while the pagans see her as another Christian queen.
Also I can imagine the amount of podcasts and discussions concerning Kirill's role, a big what if had he been victorious in either as a Roman Imperator or a Rusian Tsar. There's probably some play Shakespeare would right in TTL of his tragedy that's for sure.
If "Shakespeare" (rename pending) already wrote a legendary play about the Battle of Persepolis, you bet he'll write something about Saint Wilhelmina vs Kirill, along the lines of the OTL plays about Henry IV-V and the War of the Roses.

Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of Rus';
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
 
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By the way, if I do go through with having Rus' submit to the Mongol Empire without a fight, I could try setting up a direct battle between Ocuil Acatl and Genghis Khan somewhere in Poland as the Mongols invade the Reich through Rus' and end up running into Ocuil Acatl's army after it sacks Berlin. I don't know who wins that battle, but neither of them can die there, and both armies have to withdraw from the region. The original timeline I described in previous posts doesn't really work with this, but I'll figure something out.

Also, I'm thinking of retconning the Golden Horde successor khanates that took over and became Yavdi into being descendants of Jochi, like the current Toghorilid dynasty. No rename, but they'd be descended from someone in Jochi's line named Toghoril or something.
 
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By the way, if I do go through with having Rus' submit to the Mongol Empire without a fight, I could try setting up a direct battle between Ocuil Acatl and Genghis Khan somewhere in Poland as the Mongols invade the Reich through Rus' and end up running into Ocuil Acatl's army after it sacks Berlin. I don't know who wins that battle, but neither of them can die there, and both armies have to withdraw from the region. The original timeline I described in previous posts doesn't really work with this, but I'll figure something out.
Going off previous posts, maybe Lithuania ends up playing the two against each other and shatters the weakened army after the battle.
Also, I'm thinking of retconning the Golden Horde successor khanates that took over and became Yavdi into being descendants of Jochi, like the current Toghorilid dynasty. No rename, but they'd be descended from someone in Jochi's line named Toghoril or something.
Only problem this might have is that it might take something away from Borte being a Borjigin, but other than that it sounds good. I wonder which Borjigin line Borte is descended from tho?
 
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Going off previous posts, maybe Lithuania ends up playing the two against each other and shatters the weakened army after the battle.
Good point, since Siegfried is supposed to fight Ocuil Acatl in England before meeting Genghis Khan at Constantinople. Having Lithuania taking on both conquerors and winning would explain why it remained independent of the Mongol Empire and developed a reputation for an extremely strong army. This could be the moment where the formerly disparate pagan tribes of Lithuania decisively coalesce into a single centralized kingdom under the leadership of their own Friedrich the Great figure.
Only problem this might have is that it might take something away from Borte being a Borjigin, but other than that it sounds good. I wonder what Borjigin Borte is descended from tho?
Perhaps a main Borjigin line via Jochi’s first son, which is why she can use that surname, as opposed to the Toghorilids who descend from a cadet branch of Jochi’s line via another son or some other second son along the way.
 
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Good point, since Siegfried is supposed to fight Ocuil Acatl in England before meeting Genghis Khan at Constantinople. Having Lithuania taking on both conquerors and winning would explain why it remained independent of the Mongol Empire and developed a reputation for an extremely strong army. This could be the moment where the formerly disparate pagan tribes of Lithuania decisively coalesce into a single centralized kingdom under the leadership of their own Friedrich the Great figure.
It could also help with ending the Tatar yoke in Rusia and Yavdi much sooner than OTL too.

Would Ligdan still purge Cossacks in Yavdi and Rusia like the OTL USSR, or would he try to integrate them into the Volost/Krajina system? I guess it would vary between groups. I could see Christains and Buddhists being discriminated against though.
 
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It could also help with ending the Tatar yoke in Rusia and Yavdi much sooner than OTL too.
True, though I do want to at least include Rus’ and Yavdi in the empire until the early 14th century solely so a possible “Mongol Empire at its biggest extent” map shows a giant empire stretching from Finland to Japan.
Would Ligdan still purge Cossacks in Yavdi and Rusia like the OTL USSR, or would he try to integrate them into the Volost/Krajina system? I guess it would vary between groups. I could see Christains and Buddhists being discriminated against though.
I think he’d try to forcibly settle them in volosts and eradicate their nomadic traditions, like the USSR and communist China did in OTL. Christians, Buddhists, and pagans would all be equally cracked down on and their institutions made subservient to the state.
 
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By the way, if I do go through with having Rus' submit to the Mongol Empire without a fight, I could try setting up a direct battle between Ocuil Acatl and Genghis Khan somewhere in Poland as the Mongols invade the Reich through Rus' and end up running into Ocuil Acatl's army after it sacks Berlin. I don't know who wins that battle, but neither of them can die there, and both armies have to withdraw from the region. The original timeline I described in previous posts doesn't really work with this, but I'll figure something out.
A battle for the ages that one, a clash between steppe warfare against that of the Mexica's heavy infantry, and it effectively puts CK2's Medieval Schlieffen Achievement as 'canon' in the Hohenzollernverse's version of Crusader Kings.

Speaking of which, with EUV set to release soon and the new date, I take it if we do a retrospective of Paradox's game in universe, Crusader Kings eventually has to end around the middle of the 14th Century then? I recall a previous post of yours talking about this, though I think you said it ended at the height of Saint Willhelmina's Renaissance.
 
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A battle for the ages that one, a clash between steppe warfare against that of the Mexica's heavy infantry, and it effectively puts CK2's Medieval Schlieffen Achievement as 'canon' in the Hohenzollernverse's version of Crusader Kings.
Both sides have one thing that gives them an advantage over the other—the Mexica with their anti-cavalry obsidian blades, and the Mongols with their high mobility. Then there are the Lithuanians stuck in between them…
Speaking of which, with EUV set to release soon and the new date, I take it if we do a retrospective of Paradox's game in universe, Crusader Kings eventually has to end around the middle of the 14th Century then? I recall a previous post of yours talking about this, though I think you said it ended at the height of Saint Willhelmina's Renaissance.
I’d say it would end with the Battle of Persepolis, neatly closing out the game in 1399-1400. Ending it with Saint Wilhelmina’s reign might be too soon, since that would mean the Mexica and Mongol invasions would be put in EUV.
 
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Both sides have one thing that gives them an advantage over the other—the Mexica with their anti-cavalry obsidian blades, and the Mongols with their high mobility. Then there are the Lithuanians stuck in between them…
Makes me wonder how the Mexica and Mongols would adapt to each other and how other armies would adapt to both of them? I guess for Lithuania, some Cossacks could travel west to teach the Lithuanians how to counteract the Mongols and later fight against the Mexica in Scandinavia and Britain, hence Cossacks in Kanata.

I wonder how Cameralism would develop here? I could see overlap with the graf/theme system, but I wonder how such a centralized bureaucracy would look in the 12th century?

Also since White Lotus Societies are apparently a thing historically, I wonder how they would shape up here? I could see "Fuxingyundong" and the anti-colonial/pro-democracy movements around the Chinese empire being inspired by the White Lotus, if not actual White Lotus sects showing up.
 
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Makes me wonder how the Mexica and Mongols would adapt to each other and how other armies would adapt to both of them? I guess for Lithuania, some Cossacks could travel west to teach the Lithuanians how to counteract the Mongols and later fight against the Mexica in Scandinavia and Britain, hence Cossacks in Kanata.
The two would try their usual tactics of psychological warfare, intimidation, and raw brutality, but they realize their enemy uses the same tactics, which results in an ever escalating cycle of brutality and reprisals that result in large parts of Lithuania, Poland, and western Rus’ being razed to the ground. Ocuil Acatl and his heavy infantry focus on taking out the Mongol horses to reduce their mobility and force them into close combat, where the Mexica excel. Genghis Khan counters this by adopting ranged tactics like overwhelming arrow volleys and rocket barrages that scare the Mexica horses and cause chaos among the infantry. Ocuil Acatl adapts to this by attempting to close in more aggressively or taking advantage of the Polish and Lithuanian forests, where he can apply his experience fighting in Mesoamerican jungles and North Eimerican woodlands. In response, Genghis Khan orders the forests burned to deny them the terrain. This keeps going until both armies are significantly weakened, allowing for the Lithuanians to take out both of them—Ocuil Acatl by sabotaging his supplies and hitting him from behind, Genghis Khan by turning his own hit-and-run and psychological warfare tactics against him, then decisively destroying his weakened main army in a direct battle. Ocuil Acatl is forced to retreat to the coast (and subsequently from northern Germany and Denmark), while Genghis Khan begrudgingly acknowledges the Lithuanians’ strength and withdraws to Rus’ after agreeing to a truce. Lithuania spends the next few decades honing its army and uniting the tribes under a single kingdom by defeating frequent raids from Mongol-subjugated Rus’.
I wonder how Cameralism system would develop here? I could see overlap with the graf/theme system, but I wonder how such a centralized bureaucracy would look in the 12th century?
Probably something along the lines of Byzantine bureaucracy in the Komnenian era, mixed with some HRE institutions and proto-absolutism.
Also since White Lotus Societies are apparently a thing historically, I wonder how they would shape up here? I could see "Fuxingyundong" and the anti-colonial/pro-democracy movements around the Chinese empire being inspired by the White Lotus, if not actual White Lotus sects showing up.
White Lotus societies would be particularly popular in Fusang in the 19th century due to the regularity of floods and other natural disasters (such as the Bridge of the Gods landslide and subsequent flooding). Many of them would also have syncretic with indigenous secret societies and secret society-based faiths like Kuksu. The “Fuxingyundong” could have emerged as a partnership between modern nationalists and some of these societies. Other White Lotus societies and Buddhist sects would have also emerged around the same time in the Ming and Tran dynasties in response to natural disasters and reduced crop yields and economic output due to the Little Ice Age.

Japan also would have some White Lotus sects in addition to radicalized Nichiren and other Buddhist movements, since centuries under first Yuan and then Korean rule results in far more Chinese culture being introduced to Japan (as opposed to OTL Japan becoming culturally and diplomatically distant from China after the Tang, resulting in much of its Sinicized culture, notably its architecture, remaining stuck with the original Tang influences). That means civil service examinations, newer schools of Buddhism, political concepts and institutions from post-Tang China, horses from the Asian mainland (which made Japanese heavy cavalry possible and leads to Japanese armies having more cavalry), and secret societies.
 
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I guess for Lithuania, some Cossacks could travel west to teach the Lithuanians how to counteract the Mongols and later fight against the Mexica in Scandinavia and Britain, hence Cossacks in Kanata.
Turns out there is perfect OTL historical precedent for my scenario, in the example of Mindaugas, who united Lithuania in the mid-13th century. I could keep much of his rise to power, only accelerated in light of the Mexica invasion from the west (he OTL had to deal with Mongol raids from Russia). I can even keep the Palemonaitas dynasty as something Mindaugas or his descendants claimed to be descended from.
 
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Turns out there is perfect OTL historical precedent for my scenario, in the example of Mindaugas, who united Lithuania in the mid-13th century. I could keep much of his rise to power, only accelerated in light of the Mexica invasion from the west (he OTL had to deal with Mongol raids from Russia). I can even keep the Palemonaitas dynasty as something Mindaugas or his descendants claimed to be descended from.
I wonder what Alexander Nevsky would do in TTL? Checking the wiki link you provided, it seems that Nevsky formed a coalition with some of Mindaugas' rivals, so I guess some of those raids Mindaugas fought off could have come from Nevsky.
 
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I wonder what Alexander Nevsky would do in TTL? Checking the wiki link you provided, it seems that Nevsky formed a coalition with some of Mindaugas' rivals, so I guess some of those raids Mindaugas fought off could have come from Nevsky.
Since this is an alternate history, I could have an equivalent of him join forces with Mindaugas against Ocuil Acatl and Genghis Khan.

Also, while I was looking up the Wikipedia pages for this, I decided to revamp the Reich’s early currency. Most of these names are from long after the 11th century, so I’ll just say Wilhelm introduced them through Friedrich the Great. So here are the denominations:

Pfennig: Basic and only unit of silver currency in the 11th-12th centuries. Starting from the later years of Saint Wilhelmina’s reign, new denominations were introduced to standardize currency values across the Reich. Eventually becomes the “cent” denomination in the 21st century.

Groschen: Silver coin starting in Saint Wilhelmina’s reign as the value of the pfennig was being inflated. Medieval value set at 4-6 pfennige. Modern value set at 10 pfennige. Eventually phased out as a denomination due to decimalization favoring the pfennig and thaler, though the name persists as a nickname for the 10 pfennige coin.

Thaler/Hyperpyron: Initially a gold coin introduced on the suggestion of Alexios Komnenos. Later currency reforms result in the creation of a silver coin, named thaler after its silver coming from the Joachimsthal mine, with its value equal to that of the hyperpyron. Medieval value set at 60-72 groschen. Modern value set at 100 pfennige.

Denominations for 5, 25, and 50 pfennige emerged in the early modern and modern era. The names in my previous post on this subject should still apply.
 
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Did some quick research on what titles Harald Hardrada might have used, and from what I can gather, fylkir has been attested to in the Norse sagas as a word for king or chief in a territorial context. I guess I can use that as the title that is only claimed by the best Norse rulers or in times of military crisis. As for the emperor title, I’ll go with einváldskonungr, or “absolute/one king,” a title attributed to Harald Fairhair in a saga from the 13th century. It negatively depicts him and is from 200 years after Harald Hardrada, but I suppose the title could be coined by him upon the creation of the unified Norse empire.
 
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