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Dear Cities fans,

, we’re putting together an advisory meeting, where a small group of player representatives, together with Colossal Order and Paradox Interactive, will discuss the development plan for this year. The people in this group are chosen for the size of their following within the community to represent as many people as possible. The teams from Colossal Order and Paradox Interactive will provide them with full transparency and answer any questions and critiques voiced. Our hope is that together with you, our community, we can make sure that we do not repeat the same mistakes we have made in the past and bring this game into a bright future.
That;s cool and all-but while "content creators" may be the front facing ambassadors of the game, they tend to have very high end systems and their play style is generally made for an audience, and might not be the PC system, play style or city goals that individual players might do when they fire up the game. Please consider that.
 
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This is quite honestly completely unacceptable to me, as an ultimate edition buyer. I had faith in CO to deliver with the launch of this game, faith which at this point was evidently very clearly completely misplaced. You have failed on every step of the way with Cities Skylines 2, and the promise of additional, non-existent DLC at some point later means nothing when there is already a laundry list of non-existent DLC I have already paid for, delayed for who knows which time, and a base game that is nowhere near what was advertised or promised. Furthermore, I paid for the content you promised in the Ultimate edition, not some unknown content packs and/or music packs. You cannot agree to a sale, and then change that which you are selling half-way. Everything in the way you have handled this game's launch is, frankly, insulting. I believe players have given you the benefit of doubt for far too long. A this point, my patience and good will have run out, and I'll be looking into wether a refund is still possible in Europe on the grounds of this literally being a scam which has not delivered even half of what I paid for, and is unlikely to
 
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Focusing on the fleshing out the base game, including modding tools. Thank you. Concerning the ultimate edition, is that 3 extra content packs & radios on top of the 2 included? So 5 packs & 5 stations altogether?
 
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Way to go guys.

I am so happy my believe in PDX and CO was not disappointed in the long run. I really had my doubts the last days and weeks, but this step is really appreciated. I think most people cannot imagine how much effort it is to do a refund/compensation on this scale and this is HUGE for your integrety. I am so happy about this.
 
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here they are at stage 6 :

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That;s cool and all-but while "content creators" may be the front facing ambassadors of the game, they tend to have very high end systems and their play style is generally made for an audience, and might not be the PC system, play style or city goals that individual players might do when they fire up the game. Please consider that.
I second this to the extend that a lot of players WILL NOT feel represented by content creators. Ofter their "audience" is but a niche of players or not even actual players at all.
I am fearful of the "results" this will produce.
 
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Thank you for your apology and I accept your olive branch.

This is what I've expected in a situation like this. So, if you stay true to these words, I'll stay with you!

Best regards,
sys
 
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I think it's the right decision to not give a date, even a general range for the game's release on console and should you guys think that you need even more time in order to have the game in a good state for console, that a delay would also be a good decision. I totally understand that console players may be upset and disappointed to not get the game or a date, but as someone that played the previous game very heavily, I wish that the PC version of the game had also been delayed. So while it suck, I think having patience and simply waiting if the best thing to do.

The rest of the comment doesn't really give any details and is just a general message that you will do better. I really hope that that is the case. I understand that you need money to keep things running, but I think going for money with poor releases will only end up in disaster, what good would it be if you got enough money to keep the lights on for 6 months if it means in a year you are out on the street.

While many in the community may be disappointed with the output you guys have given, I think most of those people still want to give you a chance, they want you to do better and they don't want to give up on you because you have shown that you can do such amazing work in the past and have done so in ways that I think respects the player. So I beg of you and the moneymen over at your company take your time and do the best you can do and if the community sees that you are putting a honest attempt into doing better they WILL reward you for it.

Just look at how beloved and defended No Man's Sky is and has been for years now and while you can't do anything with the awards, them winning the Labor of Love award voted by the community. While your game is nowhere near what NMS launched like, you are in a similar boat as they were when they launched, when they ended up in the terrible situation they put themself in, they went quiet and took the time and worked hard to improve their game. Now obviously I would prefer it if you guys did NOT go totally quiet while you improve the game, I do wish you take the other steps that they did and compiled a list of the complaints of the game and then focus hard on improving the game.

Now NMS doesn't have a method for the players to continue spending money while they play the game over the years, but you do. I assume you guys plan to have go for 8-10 years (maybe a bit less) and have DLC during that time, the only way to make sure the players are willing to buy your game's DLC 8 years down the line is to have a solid foundation, without that the players will just abandon the game and in 5 years it will just be a sad reminder of what could have been.

Please do your best, we want you to do your best, we want to praise you, we want to give you our money, you just need to give us a good reason to do it.
 
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Cool :)

I’m glad to hear this.
 
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That;s cool and all-but while "content creators" may be the front facing ambassadors of the game, they tend to have very high end systems and their play style is generally made for an audience, and might not be the PC system, play style or city goals that individual players might do when they fire up the game. Please consider that.

That is something that we will continue to think about, thanks for bringing it up!
 
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Focusing on the fleshing out the base game, including modding tools. Thank you. Concerning the ultimate edition, is that 3 extra content packs & radios on top of the 2 included? So 5 packs & 5 stations altogether?
Yes the new Content Creator Packs are a replacement for Beach Properties, and are separate from the ones already announced as part of Ultimate Edition
 
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Good to hear and certainly more realistic plans to save the game ...

I got the CE for Christmas after I loved the game with the Microsoft game pass, the patch speed was even faster then

It would be nice if the owners of the game also get the pre-order items.

Otherwise you can safely say that actions are better than words, you'll see that in the next few weeks.
 
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Focusing on the fleshing out the base game, including modding tools. Thank you. Concerning the ultimate edition, is that 3 extra content packs & radios on top of the 2 included? So 5 packs & 5 stations altogether?

Yes, you're correct, three ADDITIONAL Content Packs and Radio Stations.
 
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Hopefully, really small updates, such as this below, are still communicated here in the Announcements section moving forward.


It's kind of difficult to keep track of the smaller non-important updates from CO in various places.
 
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Very thank you. I think this is really the best way. There where to many different topics to work with.. and you guys didn't had enough Ressources to do everything in the same quality. It's understandable. That's why I'm not surprised about the Beach properties DLC.

Things like this happen if everyone of the community wants the priority on a special point.

Focusing on Editor and bugfixing is really the most important thing. I'm sure with this focus things will change positive very fast.

I appreciate your work all the time. Keep improving and it will be a more fantastic game as we can imagine.
 
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