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Am I blind or do I just not see the Qashqai people on the map? I would expect them to be between Luri and Persian. I don't see any new minority stripes in the area either

Also can't seem to find 3/4 of the new added locations, except for the obvious Savsat
 
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Generally for EU4 too, the area of the world between central asia, india and the middle east is historically called IRAN since more than 1500 years ago. Calling it Persia really is disrespectful, as it is the name of the main but not at all fully dominant ethnicity in this area (azeri being a very prominent one along with kurdish or pasthun). Persia can be used for the pars area, if anything, or not at all. Besides, where are the dialects?
 
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Wait,why is most of western Khorasan Turkic?and with no visible persian/tajik minority? especially since most of those areas are still part of modern Iran and have continuously persian speaking without any assimilation efforts.Lile the cities of Mashhad and Nishapur(or most of urban areas in Khorasan) not being Persian speaking makes no sense at all.
 
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Is there any way to play as a Syriac country without "realease + play as" / provoking a revolt and switching sides?
 
Although I think they should be represented as monarchies, the names "Horde of Gurgan" and "horde of Jalayrids" sound weird(grammatical mistakes aside), why not just call them Khanates?
 
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Liam1234 said:
What are the three minority religions in Persia?
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There's a mix of:
- Sunni (darker green)
- Shiite (brighter green)
- Zoroastrian (darker blue)
- Miaphysite (wine red)
- Nestorian (pink)
- Tengrism (light blue)
- Judaism (purple)
- Other (Mandean, Yazidi, etc.)

For instance, this is the religious breakdown of the Jalayirids when I hover them in the religious map mode:

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Pavía said:
There's a mix of:
- Sunni (darker green)
- Shiite (brighter green)
- Zoroastrian (darker blue)
- Miaphysite (wine red)
- Nestorian (pink)
- Tengrism (light blue)
- Judaism (purple)
- Other (Mandean, Yazidi, etc.)

For instance, this is the religious breakdown of the Jalayirids when I hover them in the religious map mode:

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What culture are the Jewish pops?
 
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Why is a significant part of Lower Mesopotamia desert? These are agriculturally productive territories when irrigated.
 

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The Baloch polities should be scripted to have the dynasty of the tribe they correspond to (in brackets on this map), since the countries are based on those tribes (info from this post). As an example for why, the Baloch ruler Mir Chakar Rind has "Rind" as his family name, and he's descended from the tribe which lived in Bampur in 1337.

Kharan should probably also have Persian as its court language like the other tribes, I don't think there was anything particularly special about it which would change that.


Also I still think it would make more sense for Ormus to be called Hormuz, since that's the standard English name in basically every modern example and would be more recognisable. Here's a screenshot of the name usage from Google Ngram Viewer:
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nyetflix2 said:
Khorasani Turks seem extremely overrepresented now, I think they were already overrepresented in the original post but now you've made all of Iranian Khorasan Turkic!

I see Qashqai culture in the changelist but they are nowhere to be found on the map.

Disappointed at the lack of Tat and Udi cultures, though I suppose Udis as Lezgins is better than nothing.

Properly speaking the Adhari culture should speak Tabaristani not Persian, though Tats of course would speak Persian. This is one reason they should be separated.

Would like to see Central Asian Arabs, though I suppose they might not show up on the map.

Do the Jews of Kurdistan, Dagestan and Transoxiana have their cultures to be properly portrayed as Aramaic and Persian-speaking?

Not a fan of the Orthodox color change personally.
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Adhari and Talysh should definitely be separete from the Caspian language family they made,neither of them should be Persian.

I'm still bummed as why is Khorasani Turkic so over represented,Like they shouldn't even exist as a minority in 70% of the locations they are in right now.One quick way to fix it would be just Making Khorasani a Persian speaking culture and just have Turkmen representing Oghuz speakers in the region.Or just merging it to Tajik.
 
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matfer13 said:
Can you fuse the Armenian highlands region with Armenia and give an english name to regions like Iraq and Khorsan since there different people speaking different languages in thise regions
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Agree with the first part, definitely not with the second. What would you even call them? Khorasan and Iraq are not ethnic exclusive names, they are just geographic.
 
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I'm still bummed as why is Khorasani Turkic so over represented,Like they shouldn't even exist as a minority in 70% of the locatins they are in right now
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Yes, it is just ridiculous and I hope it is fixed before release. Many people have been confused by the 'Khorasani' culture, and now it seems the devs themselves are confused by it too
 
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