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This should be Stone beacuse northern estonia is known for its easily accessible limestone deposits.

This should be Lumber because that area is very wet and is known for its forrests

Should be wheat because best soil quality in all of estonia is located there.
 
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Hi @Pavía,
Hope you are well ❤️

Regarding province Bolesławjec in the south-west Silesia: Bolesławiec was a small, insignificant town at that time, 18 km south there was way more important city of Lwówek (nowadays Lwówek Śląski):

-Magdeburg city rights in 1217, there was created a mix of Magdeburg and Flanders city rights called in iure lembergensi (Lwówek's Law) that at least 12 future cities of lower and upper Silesia, Bohemia and Hungary were granted these city rights law

-with around 11k inhabitants at that time (3rd biggest city of Silesia at that time after Wrocław and Świdnica)

-city had (still has) double city walls that repelled Hussites preventing successful siege and pillage (this happened to Bolesławiec and other nearby towns)

-has bigger (medieval) city hall than in Wrocław that still exists. Its interiors with ribbed vault are refered to as a smaller version of Prague castle

-was an independent Silesian duchy in the late XIII century

-that had own mint, coin and city weighing building (read: rich)

-5th biggest market square of Silesia in the city center

-The city was located on Via Regia - an important trade road from east to west Europe

-in 1243 it was the location of the first knightly (jousting) tournament on Polish lands

-has the oldest brewery in Poland that is also the oldest still functioning company in Poland since 1209

-the city had strong ties with Kraków (Some known people migrated between both cities, trade exchange)

-during renaissance the city was heavily rebuilt under the supervision of Italian architect Archonatti who gave the city Mediterranean look

-HRE emperor Albert II visited this city in 1438 (which wasn't the case for any other nearby cities till Napoleon's times, so it says a bit about prestige and status of the city at that time)

-till 1444 there was a princely castle that the dukes of Jawor (Jauer) resided (mutually with Jauer's castle)

-This town was also a territory of Silesian medieval gold rush that was about to end for the city in mid XIV century to later become a clothier's guild den with more than 450 simultaneously operating clothier's workshops in the city.

Everything changed after thirty years war and the location fell in decline.

All I'm asking is a bit of justice for this part of Silesia. Renaming province Bolesławiec to Lwówek would be perfect as well as changing the trade good produced in the location (excellent sandstone was also produced here, even the Brandenburg Gate was partially built from it). Please take that in consideration if possible.

If you don't believe me please search polish internet, it's full of sources or PM me.

Thank you for your hard work!

PS Lwówek Śląski's Silesian name is Lwia Gůra
 
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I'd suggest renaming "Halychia" to Galicia, as Halychia sees zero usage in literature and the Ukrainian name is just Halychyna. The Latinized name fits English usage much better, same with Galician culture. I get that it might be problematic to have potentially two cultures both named Galician/two countries both named Galicia, but Galicia (Spain) will likely almost never appear as an independent country in the average game and the two cultures will likely rarely if ever interact. If it's a technical thing where you can't have two with the same name I'd just follow the Spanish approach of calling Spanish Galicia "Galicia" and Ukrainian Galicia "Galizia", rather than use such visually unrecognizable names for a well-known region and people.

I'd also suggest renaming the "Podíllia" region to Podolia, to match the convention English use of that Latinization.
 
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I sincerely hope @Aldaron didn't get an aneurysm reading 21 more pages of comments and bits of extra feedback. XD
 
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I sincerely hope @Aldaron didn't get an aneurysm reading 21 more pages of comments and bits of extra feedback. XD
Almost got one with the Poland Tinto Map but I am still alive. Thanks :p
 
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Wow, so happy to see it, it looks much better now, really awesome work, @Pavía and the whole team!
I'll leave another portion of feedback and proposals for Ukrainian lands. Far less this time :D

LOCATIONS
I'm very happy with the changes. A couple of locations should have correct spelling:
  • Izyaslav instead of Iziaslav (for consistency, the letter Я is transliterated as YA, like in the very next location Zvyahel)
  • Zavallya instead of Zavalye (for consistency, Ukrainian name instead of Russian transliteration)
Also I propose Ukrainian spelling for some locations, that now are in Poland or Belarus for dynamic spelling (see the map attaches, just for consistency, Polish names under Polish rule, Ruthenian names under Ruthenian rule etc.):
  • Kholm
  • Krasnostav
  • Hrabovets
  • Pyskorovychi
  • Lyubachiv
  • Ryashiv
  • Yaroslavl
  • Peremyshl
  • Bila Soroka (Ukr.) - Belaya Saroka (Bel.) - Belaya Soroka (Rus.)
Also as far as I understand, you did not review Chernihiv and East Dnipro Bank areas, but there are some better names there:
  • Oster instead of Starogorodskaya (a well-known important historic town instead of a small village noone knows about)
  • Lubech instead of Ripky (a well-known important historic town instead of a small village noone knows about)
  • Nizhyn instead of Unenezh (Unenezh was destroyed by the Mongols, then it was Nizhyn, the name relevant for the most of the game time frame)
  • Hirsk instead of Horodnia (optional)
I hope that you'll fully the Dnipro left bank areas that regions in another TM to have them properly reviewed :)
The map with the respective changes:
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PROVINCES
Looks very nice.
  • I'd just suggest Ostroh instead of Rivne because it was much more important town back then. The first college in Ukraine was there.
  • Zvyahel instead of Zviahel. Again YA spelling and to make it the same as the respective location
  • Also Eastern Podolia is not actual Eastern Podolia :) So maybe better call it Rov.
  • As well as with locations, Kholm and Peremyshl for dynamic naming when under Ruthenian rule.
  • And Bukovyna instead of Suceava, but it will be in another TM feedback :)
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AREAS
Looks good. As a Ukrainian I like the fact that you use Ukrainian name Podillia :D, but maybe for the consistency if you use westernised names for Volhynia, Polesia, Ruthenia, ..., then maybe it would be better to also use Podolia. Or it can be just my exaggerated perfectionism.
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TOPOGRAPHY
I'm really looking forward to the professional review by @Sulphurologist :D, but I have a feeling that you somehow ignored some hills in Galicia and Podolia and even some mountains:
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VEGETATION
Here I see some potential for better changes. I think you put too much forests in Polodia and too little forests around Kyiv and Chernihiv.
In Ukraine, according to every our geography schoolbook, we have three main natural zones – steppe, forested steppe and forests (apart from the mountains). They can be even seen in the modern satellite images:
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Even now it can be seen that areas to the north of Kyiv and Chernihiv are quite forested. No way in 1337 there were any huge areas of grasslands up there, it was even more densely forested (farmlands around Kyiv are OK, maybe around other bigger towns too).
At the same time there should be far less forests in the forested steppe areas, I assume mostly a mix of woods, grasslands and just a bit of farmlands and forests. By the way, this is how forested steppe looks like in my region:
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Dense forests were stretching deeper to the south along the main rivers - the Dnipro, Buh, Dnister. The forest near Chyhyryn and Cherkasy is still alive and it was very important historically for cossacs, by the way.
Here I attach the image from Kaplan et al. (2009). This is some kind of simulation, something between 1000 and 1500 could be used:
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So my rough proposal for Ukrinian vegetation map looks like this:
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CULTURES
I love it so much, great work!

The only thing is that there should be Halychian culture in the Pokuttya in the South, and to my mind Halychian and Ruthenian cultures should be expanded a bit to the south, at least to Bukovyna and mixed with Moldavian/Romanian/Wallachian.
And maybe a bit more mixed borders between them.
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RAW MATERIALS
Love all the changes, much more diverse now!
  • As for the Ukrainian historical cossack Left bank locations around Lubny, Poltava, Sumy, Hlukhiv - it was a huge salpeter production region since the early XVI century, mostly ruled by cossack colonels and nobles. They exported a lot of it to Muscovy. Actually as far as I understand, the Cossacks dig the remnants of Kyivan border settlements and fortifications destroyed by the Mongols as well as ancient burial mounds in the steppe, so the saltpeter production was far more efficient than represented by the saltpeter works building in the game. It can be really considered as RGO and represented by at least 1-2 saltpeter RGO locations.
  • Also, the territories of modern-day northern Ukraine (especially Chernihiv, Sumy oblasts) were a known centre for fiber crops production since the Kyivan Rus times till now. So please add a couple of fiber crops RGO locations there instead of wheat too.
I think these changes are very relevant and would make this region more diverse.
Unfortunately, both sources are in Ukrainian only:
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And thank you for adding the Duchy of Chernihiv, Volhynia and other minors as separate tags.
The only note is maybe instead of Halychia use The Duchy of Halych.

Once again, I am amazed by your dedication and work, thanks!
I have made a major update on raw goods in my overall feedback, so I'll put it separately here in case it has been already noted:

RAW MATERIALS
Love all the changes, much more diverse now!
  • As for the Ukrainian historical cossack Left bank locations around Lubny, Poltava, Sumy, Hlukhiv - it was a huge saltpeter production region since the early XVI century, mostly ruled by cossack colonels and nobles. They exported a lot of it to Muscovy. Actually as far as I understand, the Cossacks dug the remnants of Kyivan border settlements and fortifications destroyed by the Mongols as well as ancient burial mounds in the steppe, so the saltpeter production was far more efficient than represented by the saltpeter works building in the game. It can be really considered as RGO and represented by at least 1-2 saltpeter RGO locations.
  • Also, the territories of modern-day northern Ukraine (especially Chernihiv, Sumy oblasts) were a known centre for fiber crops production since the Kyivan Rus times till now. So please add a couple of fiber crops RGO locations there instead of wheat too.
I think these changes are very relevant and would make this 'wheat-only' region more diverse :D
Unfortunately, both sources are in Ukrainian only:
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Almost got one with the Poland Tinto Map but I am still alive. Thanks :p
Phew, good to know you survived that ordeal ;)

I guess you guys will let us know if certain changes have been made after going over the last bits of feedback? It's looking amazing thus far, kudos to you and your team.
 
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Nah, this thread is not problematic at all. There are things that I am bookmarking, but overall is pretty chill.
Which thread/region is problematic? It will be my goal to annihilate this region playing as Poland, when game will be released ;)
 
In the Tinto Maps there was a diplomatic map showing cores, no changes to that? I think Poland should have cores on Kuyavia, Silesia at game start, especially if you're going to pursue the war happening. The treaty that saw Casimir III the Great give up his rights to Silesia was finalized in 1339, with the exception of Duchies of: Jawor, Świdnica, Ziębice, and Bisphoric of Nysa. I do hope the war would be possible to string up instead of happening at game start, though, via a series of events to represent the ongoing peace attempts and treaties.
 
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Phew, good to know you survived that ordeal ;)

I guess you guys will let us know if certain changes have been made after going over the last bits of feedback? It's looking amazing thus far, kudos to you and your team.
@Pavía is the man for that. I am only a miner.
Which thread/region is problematic? It will be my goal to annihilate this region playing as Poland, when game will be released ;)
There has been quite more to chew than expected in all the region from West Poland to the Dnieper river, however, looking back all the effort, sweat and tears have been worth.
 
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@Pavía is the man for that. I am only a miner.

There has been quite more to chew than expected in all the region from West Poland to the Dnieper river, however, looking back all the effort, sweat and tears have been worth.
May I ask if the region to the east of the Dnipro river will be in another TM? Kind of that that I mentioned a few posts before.
 
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