I had seen both of those posts when I made the previous reply. The date of founding is an estimation made by the author in 3 steps. He estimates roughly 100-150 years between the founding date and the first mention. The 3rd column is his estimation but is the 2nd column the time of the first mention of the village as "village, where Negesh lives", "village, where the house of Pitik is" or the first name of the village's actual name? as according to the method there are 3 steps: first "that village", then name of the founder and then name of the village. But I only see 1 column of first mention.A toponymic study has been provided for the cities in the 14th century. They were dated by the author. It directly shows the trend of the population in Northern Bukovina in the XIVth century to name new villages with Slavic roots and rules, and in Moldavian proper with Romanian roots and rules. For more details please refer to my breakdowns of it here and highly detailed here. Every major map has a date assigned to it.
As I have outlined multiple times, the paper directly calculates the time of the foundation of every city.
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here is an example directly from the source. The first column is the name, the second column is the first mention, and the third column is the presumed foundation date. The author has been operating with them to eliminate cities that were outside of the scope.
because of that, I believe the temporal issue does not relate to toponymic study. Villages number has drastically increased, and the respective regions remained with their linguistic descriptions
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maps of the 14th and 15th centuries for comparison. The amount of Slavic names for villages only increased in the area of Northern Bukovina. This can be attributed to the Slavic speakers who founded those villages between the 14th and 15th centuries. This indicated that they were a sizeable majority.
Archaeological research provided here beautifully fills this gap.
It only supports the current claim that those cities were Ruthenian.
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This study shows Slavic cities in the X - XIII centuries.
They were Slavic because of building constructions, coins, armour, pottery, instruments, and documents that were found on those spots. As you can see only Bukovina and Dniestr are indicated to have them (regions under question).
In the end, both archaeological and toponymic evidence suggests that there has been a lot of Slavic speakers.
But regardless of the accuracy of this estimation, my issues with the toponymic study remain unaddressed.
How does this explain away the possibility that part of those toponyms of Slavic origin were actually toponyms of Romanian origin derived from Slavic? As I understand, this toponyms study doesn't make the Slavic origin <-> Romanian origin derived from Slavic distinction.
Which means that part of them may actually be toponyms of Romanian origin derived from Slavic. And if the correlation from the hydronyms study also applies here, namely that in regions with a higher amount of Slavic hydronyms (thus of Slavs) is a higher amount of Romanian hydronyms derived from slavic loanwords. Meaning, living next to the Slavs would lead to more slavic loanwords being used by Romanians. This is not merely translation as translation into Romanian is not a criteria for becoming RD or RSL.
Additionally, the second issue, how do we know that a village, city or fort with a slavic name is still inhabited by slavs in 1337? because people can inhabit localities with names which hold no meaning for them.
Regarding the archaeological evidence, X-XIII centuries is exactly the transition period when the Vlachs started to come in waves, so naturally there would be evidence of Slavic presence there. But this evidence shows presence, but does it shows majority in 1337? because we the reason we kept talking for 20 pages was whether there were more Romanians or Ruthenians in Northern Moldavia, for me it's the Vlach voivodships.
And yet again, I do find it hard to believe that there was a Ruthenian majority ruled by a Vlach minority because the Vlachs weren't warrior-like. And I doubt the Ruthenians would be too keen on being ruled by Vlachs with the Halych principality that they could be a part of next door. It's not impossible but very counter-intuitive.
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But that's precisely it, and why I said the Vlachs weren't warrior-like. The Normans conquered the English.The Norman Conquest (or the Conquest) was the 11th-century invasion and occupation of England by an army made up of thousands of Norman, French, Flemish, and Breton troops, all led by the Duke of Normandy, later styled William the Conqueror.
How could English people accept the rule of the French kings?
I doubt they had such a striking charisma that the English people were like "hey, there's more of us, but let these French be in charge undisputed for hundreds of years"
Doesn't make any sense why the English would allow a French administrative control unless they were a minority.
However English people just accepted them as kings and even now half of English language is attributed to the French dominance and influence over it.
Irony aside, how does this happened, but Ruthenians can not be ruled by Vlachs?
It is not like we have an another separate instance when Rus‘ population has asked to rule over them (or was conquered by) a person of different language…. Yeah it happened before...
The main point is, it happened. More times that I have mentioned. Let’s not make arguments like this could not happen if it did. People of that time cared more about religion rather than culture or language.
A closer similar example would be Lithuanians ruling over Slavs. But the Lithuanians were already a strong military power, it is how they managed to form the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and rule over slavs. The Vlachs in 1337 on the other hand, were the furthest thing away from a military power. And the circumstantial evidence we have like mentions of the voivodships, codrii and tari, seem to be exclusively of Vlachs. The Lithuanians were stronger than the Slavs so they could rule over them, the Vlachs were not stronger than the Slavs so why would they rule over them? Doesn't make any sense why the Ruthenians would allow a Vlach military and administrative control unless they were a minority.
With the Rurik example, same thing, they conquered them.
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