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While I don't speak French and hence might be mistaken, how does nois ever end up pronounced as nwah? That just makes no sense.Is that 'ill-ih-nwah', or 'ill-ih-noy'?
Because that's how it works in French?
Not English, though. Illinois should rhyme with annoy or destroy.
Nois is nwah in French?
Also you can't use English here, since Illinois is French and hence English is irrelevant in this case.
That rhymes with destroy?Just like 'dyspnoic'
What?
I said the word has French roots, but the pronunciation has been americanized to Illy-noise (with the s more or less like in the word "noise")
Not sure what you meant then.
As you say it's a French word. Hence the correct pronunciation is the French one. Not what some Americans might come up with.
Would you also say elite instead of élite or naive instead of naïve?
I was being annoying by pointing out that 'noi' isn't always pronounced 'noy' in English.
"Hospital" has french roots, but surely you pronounce the "s" in "hospital" even though it is not pronounced in french?
I just realised I apparently don't know how dyspnoic is pronounced.
The s in hospital isn't pronounced in French? I thought it was the h not being pronounced.
Basically, it doesn't matter what the root of a word is, otherwise almost all of english would be pronounced differently than it is now.
I actually have often been pronouncing it like that.
And? English is a mongrel language after all.
Also names are different from words.
When speaking english, do you also pronounce Paris without the "s"? Your answer to that question should settle that matter, for better or worse.
There is no "s" hospital in Modern French. You're looking for "hôpital".
If I remember, then yes.
Yeah I realised that it was that and as such hospital is different in that it's not spelled the same way. The h in hôpital is silent right? I'm not sure I pronounce the ô right though. And I have said hôpital loads of times btw due to L'Hôpital's rule.
Yeah alright, fair point, but the "Paris" example is still valid.
Ok, so we have nothing more to discuss. If you intentionally mispronounce words in english then we can not operate in the same framework of discussion.