CK2 Dev Diary #112 - Wonderful News

[MonzUn]

Building wonders sounds cool.

Just some questions and suggestions:

1. Will AI rulers (independent or vassal) start building a new wonders or continue building an existing one? Especially those with lots of money like Lord Mayor, Grand Mayor and Prince Mayor...

2. As "All wonders will be tied to a province", if a vassal count holds the province, while the bonus income goes into his pocket, will his liege & top liege duke / king / emperor also receive prestige / piety / technology points generated?

3. Will there be any event-only wonders? Like finding an ancient ruin / city / temple in the jungle / on the mountain or cliff or after flooding, (depend on traits & attributes) you can choose to rebuild it as a wonder (leave a base for you to build it when you have money) / study for technology points / dismantle it for timed build time build cost modifier.

1. AI rulers can start and continue construction of wonders. I'm not sure of all the factors that will go into their decision to do so, but money will certainly be a factor.

2. The top liege of the realm will be the one who owns the wonder so he/she will pay for construction and reap most of the benefits.

3. Wonders will of course be tied in to the event system but I'm not sure if there will be event specific ones.

 

[Tuscany]

Will certain wonders appear differently depending on your culture? I'd love to see a beautiful Chinese-style Cathedral for a Han Christian to build or a Great Mosque for Han Muslims. There are quite a few examples of the beautiful places of worship across China if you guys need any ideas.

While I would love this, it probably isn't feasible to have culture specific graphics based on each wonder.

 

[Tuscany]

Sadly the devs are Swedish, not Norwegian, so we can only hope that a stave church of some kind makes it in.

We're not all Swedish

 

[Tuscany]

Will major Universities be available wonders?

Also, Medieval castles were often bright colours like green or pink or blue.
Will there be options for wonders having type era suitable paint jobs?



in game would be different from a cathedral? or something like unique graphic variant?

Universities are planned.

 

[Tuscany]

Will this update streamline regular building at all? It seems a bit micro to be building in each of my 50 provinces etc.

To manage your expectations the focus for this update is on wonders.

 

[Tuscany]

will there be any achievments related to wonders?

Hopefully!

 

[Tuscany]

This is wonderful news indeed. So we will have some "generic, ahistorical vanity projects" and "historical prebuilt monuments" that can be converted into EU4 (at least thought occured), and buildable cathedrals, pyramids, upgradeable towers and decorations. Have you considered "monarchs personal palace" type monument, like upgrade your capital holding into Medieval Versailles, or something along those lines? And here I thought Holy Fury couldn't be topped.

So the wonders are completley separate from your other holdings but we are planning to have a palace.

 

[Tuscany]

Really nice to hear everyones thoughts! So many messages to try and catch up on

 

[Tuscany]

For any stonehenge-esque megalith structure, make it so a lunatic character can have an epiphany about what they are really for - and let them fall like dominoes

Dominoes event sounds hilarious.

 

[Tuscany]

Do "Build the Third Temple" from judaism will be reworked into new mechanism?

Any "special wonders" for Ducks?

What special wonders would ducks build? 'The Grand Pond of Quackington'

 

[Tuscany]

Also don't be suprised if not every building that might be considered a wonder is left out, we don't want to flood the map with them.

 

[Tuscany]

I would like to see a new title, Family butler. A random courtier will be spawned to take this title. And there would be events related to him serving the family and the family head. And butler could give positive event, with stats which he is good at. And bad ones to. The butler could also risk his life to protect his lord with his life. And as a player you could pass the butlers title to his childeren. And so making a servant dynasty which in return give them a postive opinion modifier.

Not sure how common butlers were in the middle ages, but this sounds like a fairly easy mod for you to make.

 

[Tuscany]

The Chief Butlers of England and Ireland were definitely a thing. The Earls of Ormond adopted the family name Butler because of their long tenure in the latter post.

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Interesting! Thanks!

 

[Snow Crystal]

Keep in mind this thread is about Wonders, not Kemeticism.