• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

Tinto Maps #13 - 2nd of August 2024 - Maghreb

Hello, and welcome one more week to another Tinto Maps, where we assemble several maps for the shake of it (well, also to gather feedback, I guess). After the nightmarish maps of last week, we’re showing a much less fragmented region this week, the Maghreb. Let’s take a look at it, then.

Countries:
Countries 1.jpg

Countries 2.jpg

This week I’m showing two versions of the country map, one without colored wastelands, and another with them colored (please take into account that some work still needs to be done regarding the coloring of the corridors). Only four new countries are to be shown this week (as Fezzan already appeared some weeks ago). First is first, there are dynamic keys for them similar to the Mamluks, so their full name in the game are ‘Marinid Sultanate of Morocco’, ‘Zayyanid Sultanate of Tlemcen, and ‘Hafsid Sultanate of Tunis’ (Tripoli starts with a random ruler, as we weren’t able to find which was the reigning dynasty in 1337). The main power in this period is the Marinid dynasty, ruling from Fās, after grabbing the power from the Almohads almost a century ago. They start at war with the Zayyanids of Tlemcen, and its capital is close to falling to the mighty Sultan Abu al-Hasan ‘Ali. They also have a foothold in Iberia, around Algeciras and Ronda, which may lead to future campaigns about the control of the Strait of Gibraltar.

Diplomacy.jpg

And this is the starting diplomatic situation between Morocco and Tlemcen, with the capital of the latter almost surrounded by the former...

Dynasties:
Dynasties.png

Here we have the three main dynasties of the Maghreb in 1337, the Marinids, the Zayyanids, and the Hafsids. Apart from those, the dynasties of Tripoli and Fezzan are randomly generated, as we don’t know who was ruling in those places at that specific time.

Locations:
Locations.png

Locations 2.png

Locations 3.png
Here are the maps of the locations. In the first, you may see the corridors (the non-named locations) connecting the Maghreb with the Saharan inner lands and oases. Regarding the location density, we might want to increase it in a few places (that Siṭṭāt location is too big compared to its neighbors, for instance).

Provinces:
Provinces.png

We’re open to suggestions for the provinces, as usual.

Areas:
Areas.png

The areas of the Maghreb correspond to their historical division (al-Aqṣā, al-Awsat, al-Adna, and Tripoli). The northern section of the Sahara is split in two areas, the Western Sahara, and the Sahara Oases.

Terrain:
Climate.png

Topography.png

Vegetation.png

Better late than never!

Cultures:
Cultures.png

The cultural division of the region is very, very interesting, we think. The first thing that I want to stress is that we’ve divided the most Arabized zones from the more traditionally Berber ones. The more Arabized cultures are the Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian, Lybian, and the Hassaniya tribe, in the western Sahara. Meanwhile, the Berber-speaking peoples are divided into Masmuda, and Sanhaja in al-Maġrib al-Aqṣā; the Zenati in al-Maġrib al-Awsat; the Kabylian, Chaoui, and Mozabite in al-Maġrib al-Adna; and the Eastern Berber (a name that we will probably change, given the feedback already received in the Egyptian Tinto Maps) in Tripoli. The Berber-speaking Tuareg and the Saharan-speaking Toubou inhabit the central Saharan Oases.

Religions:
Religions.png

Most of the region’s population practices Sunni Islam, with a very important zone where Ibadism is the majority, more or less corresponding with Mozabite and Eastern Berbers. Although it’s not shown on the map, there are two religious minorities present, the Mustaʿravi Jews, in a bunch of urban centers across the region, and some native Christians spread through al-Maġrib al-Adna.

Raw Materials:
Raw Materials.png

The Maghreb is very rich in different materials, especially Morocco (which was used a long time ago as a ‘RGO-gameplay’ testing ground by our QAs). The Saharan corridor is way less productive, but it’s somehow important for the next map…

Markets:
Markets.png

The market centers of the region are placed in Fās and Al-Jazā'ir, which makes for good market access and distribution for the start of the game, in general terms. You might notice that trading happens across the corridors, which makes for a real connection between the markets to the north and south of the Sahara in 1337. This means that we can effectively simulate the trading of Saharan and sub-Saharan goods (salt, alum, gold, ivory) to the north until maybe some European countries decide to explore down the African coast and make direct trading in the Gulf of Guinea, avoiding the Maghrebi intermediaries.

Population:
Population.png

Population 2.png

Population 3.png
The population of the region is around 5,5M, with an interesting distribution: al-Maġrib al-Aqṣā and al-Maġrib al-Adna have more or less a similar population, with al-Maġrib al-Awsat having half of them, and Tripoli and Saharan Oases being way less populated.

And that’s all for this week! The next one we will travel across the Sahara, and take a look at the region of Western Africa. See you!
 
  • 156Like
  • 48Love
  • 5
  • 3
Reactions:
We already took a look into this, but kt has two issues:
1. We don't know where exactly they inhabited.
2. We don't know about their size, apart from most likely being a tiny minority.
from what I understand the Afro-Romans were primarily an urban population, noticeable but shrinking.
it is safe to assume that in each Tunisian city there were about 5% of them
If I find any more precise data on this population, I will let you know
I also believe that it is safe to assume that there is an equal sign between the Catholic faith and the Afro-Romance language in North Africa.
 
Last edited:
  • 2Like
Reactions:
Actually, no. The first waves of Andalusi migrants were after the fall of Ishbiliyah, Qurtubah, and Balansiyah (Sevilla, Cordoba, Valencia) in the 13th century. Although some dynamics should show the later expulsions and settlements in the later game.
i agree , i guess i spoke of what was seen as a great wave . i do agree there was lot of peoples drastically moving to north africa even of wisigothic origins but the final expultion i guess is where the demography of north africa would be impacted a lot and the dialect and culture and food too and would result at the birth of pirate republics and some troubles
 
Hassaniya Arabic should not exist yet as the dialect did not begin to form until the mid 1400s (Basically around eu4s start time) due to influence spreading across the Sahara by Arabic speaking peoples. I know we can't really quite see it , as there are only a few locations currently with Hassaniya, but it really should be majority Zenaga Berber at this point in time, with possibly either Moroccan or Bedouin as Minorities in the northern locations and there should be some kind of chain of events or something that causes the creation of Hassaniya, whether that be an Arab nation extending control over the locations and a location like Chinguetti becoming an arab and Islamic center, or just an RHE
There are accounts of the Hassaniya having control of the southwestern territories upon the fall of the Almohad Caliphate, around 1250, and by 1337, they're most likely the most dominant tribe of the region (although we're open to sources potentially correcting this, of course).
 
  • 24Like
  • 2
Reactions:
  • 29Like
  • 4
Reactions:
West Africa is next? That ought to be an interesting choice for sure. Looking forward to the culture map there. Sure to be very complex
It was complex to craft, a summer three years ago that gives me fond memories...
 
  • 33Haha
  • 23Like
  • 8Love
  • 2
Reactions:
Making a deeper research and using a book named "Encyclopaedia of Islam, 2nd edition" (all volumes of this book are legally available in english at Internet Archive), I found interesting informations about these oasis countries. Also, this book looks like extremely useful for research not only about north africa but for all the muslim world, because the quantity of information is huge and it is well organized and fast to research.

I believe that the Maghreb should have more playable tags, suggestions for tags are:


1- Wargla (in game represented by a location named Wargren, I believe)

"
WARGLA, conventionally OuaRGLA, an ancient oasis town of the Algerian Sahara (lat. 31? 58' N., long. 5? 20' E., altitude 290 m/320 feet), situated 160 km/100 miles south-south-west of Tuggurt [g.v.] and now the chef-lieu of a wilãya or province of the Algerian Republic. It occupies a depression above a sheet of underground water which is fed by the subterranean course of the Wadi Miya and which has, in the past, been tapped by wells, thus permitting vast date palm groves in the oasis (see 2. below)..."

"Pre-modern history: We have no information about Wargla before the Arab conquest. At that time, the land was occupied by Zenata tribes. According to Ibn Khaldün, the Bana Wargla (Berber, Urdjelan) came from the northwest along with other Berber elements (Ifran and Maghrawa [g.vv.]) and founded several little towns in these regions which combined to form the town of Wargla. The people adopted Ibadi doctrines so thoroughly that, after the destruction of the Rustamid kingdom of Tahart [g.».] by the Fatimids at the beginning of the 10th century A.D., many Khàridjis came to settle in Wargla and founded the town of Sedrata, the ruins of which still exist buried under the sands half a day’s journey to the southwest. At the same time, Abū Yazid, the “man with the ass”, who had rebelled against the Fatimids, recruited many followers in this region. The Ibadis had nevertheless in the 6th/12th century, as a result of conflicts with the orthodox and perhaps under the pressure of Arab elements, to abandon the region of Wargla and migrate to the Tadmayt, where they finally settled and created the oases of the Mzàb [q.v.]. Ibadism, however, continued to survive at Wargla, where in the 11th/17th century it still had a few representatives."


"During this period, Wargla, which according to the traveller al-'Ayyàshi was ruled by the Banü Tüdjin dynasty, seems to have been a prosperous city enriched by trade with the Südàn (al-Idrisi, tr. de Goeje, 141). The Hilali invasion marked the beginning of a troubled era. In the course of the wars between the Hammiádis and the Athbadj, with whom the people of Wargla had contracted an alliance, the dynasty of the Banü 'Tüdjin was overthrown and the town destroyed. Rebuilt a short distance from the original site, it suffered later in the wars between the Almohads and the Banü Ghaniyya. In the 8th/14th century, although under the suzerainty of the Banü Muzni, representatives of the Hafsids in the Zab [g.v.], Wargla was practically independent under the rule of sultans belonging to the family of the Bani Abi Ghabul, of the fraction of the Bani Wagguin or Uggin (Ibn Khaldün, Histoire des Berbers, tr. Slane, iii, 286). At the end of the lOth/l6th century, these sultans were extremely wealthy, but according to Leo Africanus (ed. Schefer, book vi, vol. iii, 146), they had to pay heavily for the protection of the nomad Arabs. Wargla at this üme still preserved the commercial importance that it owed to its situation as a "port of the desert", to use Ibn Khaldün's phrase (loc. cit) It was a market where the produce and slaves of the Sadan were exchanged for the merchandise bought from Tunis and Constantine. Leo Africanus remarks on the beauty of the houses, the number of artisans and the wealth of the merchants. This opulence attracted the attention of the Turks of the Algerian coastlands to Wargla. In 1552 Salah Re’is, at the head of an army of Turks and Kabyles, advanced as far as Wargla, the inhabitants of which offered no resistance, and he returned after plundering the town and imposing on the sultan an annual tribute."

TL/DR: At game start, Wargla should be an independent country, it should have an ibadi minority and should be governed by "Sultans belonging to the family of the Bani Abi Ghabul, of the fraction of the Bani Wagguin or Uggin"

Source: Encyclopaedia of Islam, 2nd edition, vol 11 W-Z, pages 145-147.

2- Tuggurt


"TUGGURT, conventionally Touggourt, a town in the Algerian Sahara situated 160 km/100 miles to the north-east of Ouargla (Wargla), 100 km/62 miles south-west of El-Oued and 208 km/128 miles south of Biskra (lat. 33? 08' N., long. 6° 04' E)."

"History: According to Ibn Khaldün, a splinter of the Berber tribe of the Righa gained control of all the region between Biskra and Ouargla, where it became mingled with other Zanāta Berber elements. There were also Jews in the region. The town was for long dependent on the princes ruling the Maghrib or on the governors of Biskra, but, from the 14th to the 18th centuries, it was the capital of a vast region ruled by the Banü Djellab. A Moroccan prince, Sulaymàn b. Djellāb, related to tbe Marīnid family, halted at Tuggurt on his return from the Pilgrimage to Mecca, founded a mosque there and, with the aid of the local nomads, became recognised there as sovereign ruler. The line of the Banū Djellab, whose tombs can still be seen in the “royal cemetery” of the town, ruled for four centuries, amongst various vicissitudes, partly due to dissensions amongst the local great families and partly from outside intervention by the Turks. In the 16th century, the Beylerbeyi Salah Reis plundered the town and exacted an annual tribute of 15 slaves. In the 18th century, the Banü Djellab recognised the suzerainty of the Beys of Constantine, but without paying any tribute to them. Hence the Beys tried at various times to replace them by their own nominees, the Banü Gana of Biskra. Tuggurt was twice besieged, by Salah Bey in 1788 and by Ahmad Mamluk in 1821, but in vain. At the time of French colonial advance, Sulayman b. Djellāb allied with the Sharif of Ouargla against the new enemy. A French column occupied Tuggurt in 1854 and installed a garrison there. In 1871, the garrison was massacred at the time of a revolt, although this last was rapidly suppressed. Tuggurt is now, in independent Algeria, part of the Territories of the South."

TL/DR: At game start, Tuggurt should be an independent country (the source says that it already was one in the XIV century, and this source is more reliable than wikipedia that says XV century), it should be governed by the line of Banu Djellab and it should have a jew minority.

Source: Encyclopaedia of Islam, 2nd edition, vol 10 T-U, pages 589-590

3- Laghouat


"LAGHOUAT (At-Aguway), Algerian town and oasis, administrative centre of a milaya (district), 420 km. to the south of Algiers (Jong. o° 30° E. [Paris], lat. 33° 48° N. Altitude: 787 m.). It was formerly the administrative centre of one of the four “Territories of the South” forming the region of Algeria administered under martial law, until the reform instituted by the law of 20 September 1047 (Statut de l'Algérie). On account of its geographical position, dominating the defence of the Sahara, as well as memories connected with the dramatic story of its conquest by the French (184452)."

"History. In the 4th/roth century, there already existed on the banks of the Wadi Mzi a locality whose inhabitants, after acknowledging the authority of the Fatimids, took part in the revolt of AbG Yazid al-Nukkari [g.7.]. The neighbouring region was overrun by Berber tribes belonging to the family of the Maghràwa [p.v] (cf. Ibn Khaldin, Kité® al-<2bar, Algiers 1851, i, 64, Beirut 1956-9, vii, 96; Baron Me G. de Slane, Histoire des Berbires. . ., iii, 273). The Hilälian invasion brought into the region other tribes of the same race, notably the Ksel, fugitives from the Zab, who founded a village called Ben Bata (the misa "al-Düti" is still in use in Laghouat). Several other sour (Bu Mendala, Nadjal, Sidi Mimin, Badla, Kasbat Ftah) were built by other emigrés, some of Arab origin (Dwawda, Awlid Bü Zayyin), others from the Mzab. This collection of urban centres was known by the name Laghwaj/ Lakwdj, the latter orthography being the only one which corresponds in reality to the curent pronunciation in the Laghouati dialect."

"Little is known of the social and political history of Laghouat unti] the 18th century. At the end of the. 16th century, it paid tribute to the king of Morocco. In 1666, the ksour of Badla and Kagbat Ftah were abandoned, In 1698, a holy man, a native of Tlemcen, Sidi 'I-Hàdidi, took up residence in Ben Bata and sought to reconcile the rival factions, His moral authority extended to the people of three other ksour as well as to the neighbouring tribe of the Larba‘. Under his leadership, the people of Laghouat defeated the inhabitants of the ksar al-‘Assafiyya, but found themselves obliged to pay tribute to the sultan of Morocco, Mawliy lema (1672-1727 [4.9.]), who eame and camped under the walls of the town in 1708."


TL/DR: At game start Laghouat should not be independend but it should be a possible separatist tag.

Sources:
- Encyclopaedia of Islam, 2nd edition, vol 5-2 T-U, pages 595-597
- Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laghouat_Expedition_(1708–1713)
 
Last edited:
  • 16
  • 8Like
Reactions:
I'm assuming this a typo but Hassaniya is an Arabic dialect spoken by Arab and Arabized tribes. It should not be grouped as Berber. The majority of Mauritania + Western Sahara should be "Western Berber" speakers of the Sanhaja confederation. Whether you assign them Sanhaja culture or a unique one is up to you (I'd predict a unique one given how you separated out Mozabite and Chaoui) but they can not be Hassaniya.

On the topic of culture:
- I do not like the term Kabylian, and I'd prefer simply Kabyle.
- I am surprised to see this extent of Amazigh demographic dominance in the period, and would love to know your sources (not because I doubt you, but because it's a hard topic to find information on). However, I am surprised to see the Moroccan Atlantic plains as Sanhaja. I would have expected Masmuda, given that they presumably descendants of the Barghwata. The Middle Atlas like Khenifra, Mrirt, Azrou and so forth being Sanhaja is absolutely correct though.
- I am sure you are aware that Chaoui and Mozabite are tribally and linguistically Zenata, and you've made them separate probably for the purpose of certain tags having cores in those areas.
- Like I said in the Levant/Egypt TM, in my opinion Tripolitanian is a more historical name for Libyan culture. Afaik the modern name of Libya was (re-)invented by an Italian in the early 1900s.
- You've painted the Eastern Zenati languages of southern Tunisia (such as Djerba and the adjoining mainland) as Eastern Berber when this is linguistically wrong. They're Zenati languages like Chaoui and Mozabite. I don't actually mind it as it's not the most important distinction in the world and they are geographically close, just wanted to make sure you guys were aware. Whatever culture they are, I think they should also be present in Madjul, where they were spoken up until the 20th century.
- Shouldn't Zuwarah, Libya be majority Eastern Berber? It's a mainly Tamazight-speaking city even today (speaking one of those Eastern Zenati dialects I mentioned above).

This region is looking great! Like with the Levant + Egypt week, I have to say that your Arabic (and Tamazight) transliteration is all over the place, but I'm confident you guys are going to clean that up eventually. So, I'll just limit myself to actual errors:

- Walila should be Walili. Think this is a typo
- Jarsif needs to have a G instead of J. It is pronounced with a /g/ and is variously written as ڭرسيف or جرسيف. Moroccan Arabic is inconsistent with the pronunciation of ج, it is mostly /ʒ/ but there are many words where it's /g/. Obviously the modern Latin spelling is Guercif due to French influence, but Garsif would be fine too. Just not Jarsif, please.
- The spelling of Ğelfa makes it look like you're representing /ʁ/ when it's /dʒ/. Dj or J would be better.
- It would be nice to take into account the local accents of Arabic more often. Just as you have Stif instead of Setif, Settat/Sittat could just be Sttat.
- The historical names of El Jadida and Essaouira are Mazagan and Mogador/Amegdul respectively. I believe El Jadida especially was only invented in the 1800s.

My one location suggestion for the moment is Dila, south of Khenifra, the center of the Zawiya d-Dila2iya.

I'm very excited for West Africa, please keep up the good work!
You're completely correct, it's a mistake I made writing the dev diary, which I've just corrected, as they're an Arabic-speaking group, not a Berber one. As I mentioned before, our sources point to them already having a strong presence in the western Sahara in the 13th and 14th centuries, but we're open to feedback regarding this.

We're taking notes about the rest of the comments and suggestions, and we'll go more in-depth with them when we review the region as a whole. Thanks for the feedback so far, and for the kind words!
 
  • 30Like
  • 3
Reactions:
Tripoli would have been ruled by Muhammad ibn Thabit from 1327-1348, the dynasty was Banu Thabit (also known as Banu 'Ammar, or 'Ammarids for consistency with Hafsids etc.)

Source: Encyclopedia of Islam, Second Edition

there's also further reading and secondary sources on the "Banu Thabit" Wikipedia page, if needed
Thank you for the references! This is what makes Tinto Maps so great. :)
 
  • 54Love
  • 23Like
  • 6
Reactions:
You're completely correct, it's a mistake I made writing the dev diary, which I've just corrected, as they're an Arabic-speaking group, not a Berber one. As I mentioned before, our sources point to them already having a strong presence in the western Sahara in the 13th and 14th centuries, but we're open to feedback regarding this.
You're completely correct that they already had a strong presence, I just meant that the majority of Western Sahara + Mauritania as a whole should be Amazigh up until the Char Bouba war. I don't necessarily see any problems with the bit of it we can see.
 
  • 2Like
Reactions:
Since all the 3 dinasties are of berber origin, what primary culture do Morocco, Tlemcen and Tunis start with?
Moroccan for Morocco (we consider the Marinids quite Arabized by this time), Zenati for Tlemcen, and Tunisian for Tunis (we also consider the Hafsids to be Arabized).
 
  • 19Like
  • 7
  • 2
Reactions:
Let me make it easier for the Turkish conquerors.

Tripolitania = Trablusgarp
Tripoli = Trablus
Sirte = Sirte
Misurata = Mısrata
Zliten = Zliten
Bani Walid = Beni Velid
Mizda
Ghariyan = Geryan
al Khums = Hums
Zawiya = Zaviye
Zuwarah = Zuvare
Nalut = Nalut
Ghademis = Gadames
Tittawin = Tatavin or Tatvin
Zerzis = Carcis
Mednin = Medenin
Matmata = couldn't find the ottoman name for this, although there is another town nearby called "Zeytin"
I see Djerbah has another name but Ottoman name would be Cerbe

Al Magrib ul Adna = Tunus
Gbilli = Kebili
Gabis = Gabes
Mahres = Mahris
Sfakes = Safakes
il Jam = El Cem (although not sure if it's historic)
Qitbiya = couldn't find
Nabil = Nebil
Susa = Susa
Zaghun? = Zağvan
bu Haghla = Bu Hacla
Madjul = Mecul
Qafsa = Gafsa
Al qasrin = Kasssarin
Tebest = Tebessa
Maskiyana = Assuming same with Mascula, turkish name would be Kençela
Subaytila = Subeytila/Sübeytila
Sabiba = Sabiha
al Qayrawaan = Kayravan/Kayrevan
al Fahs = El Fahs (altough not historic)
Tunis = Tunus
Biuzart = Bizerte
Tburba = Teburba
al Qala = El-Kale (not historic)
Thurqa = Dugga
Annaba = Annaba
Skikda = apparently didnt exist or was little importance
al Qull = apparently didnt exist or was little importance
Qusantinah = Kasantine/Kusantine
Gigal = Cicel
Stif = Sedef
Guelma = Kalime
Bejaia = Bicâye
Laghouat = Lagvat/Lağvat

Al Magrib ul Awsat = Cezayir or Cezayir-i Garp
Al-Jazair = Cezayir/Cezayir kalesi
Ain Sefra = Ayn Safra
Wejda = Ucda
Wahran = Vahran/Vehran
Tilimsan/Tlemcen = Tilimsan/Tilimsen

It looks like it was either autonomous or client or vassal state, they named all region as Cezayir, with little regard to the individual cities or castles other than the Cezayir. It also looks like wasn't very rich in resources. This also explains why they were mostly pirates/corsairs.

Al Maghrib ul Aksa = Mağrip
Tangiers = Tanca
Titwan (turquoise colored) = Şafşavan
Titwan (green one on the right) = Tetevan/Tetevin
Maknas = Meknes
Fas = Fes
Ar Ribat = Rabat
Anfa = Anfa (Darülbeyza after 1755)
Marrakech = Marakeş
Al Jadida = Cedidiye
Ash-shawira = Suveyre
Xnifra = Kenifra
Azro = İfran
Sittat = Settat


Ain Salih = Ayn Salat
Beccar = Becâr


Place names with Ain are Ayn ...

Provinces
Habat = Habat
Fas = Fas
Azgar = El Zar?
Temesna = ?
Dukkala = Dukkala?
Marrakesh = Marakeş
Haha = Haha?
Sus = Bilâd-ül Sus
Hascora = ?
Guzzula = Cazula?
Saoura = Savra? (looks like berberi name of Sahara)
Deraa = Dera ili
Tafilalt = Tafilet
Tadla = Tadla
Chaus = Kavs
Errif = Rif
Garet = ?
Mers el Kebir = Mers-el-Kebir
Tlemcen = Tilimsen/Tilimsan
Wehran = Vahran
Ouarsenis = Varsenis?
Kasdir = Kasdir
Titteri = Tiyaret
Dahra = ?
Mitiji = ?
Kabylia = ?
Hodna = ?
M'zab = Muzap
Tugurt = Tukurt (ili)
Central Sahara = Mihverî Sahra
Fezzan = Fîzan
Eastern Sahara = Şarkî Sahra
Tripolitania = Trablus ili or Trablusgarp
Al Gifara =El Gıffar
Djerid = Biladü'l-Cerid
Qabisa = Kabes
Sahel = Manastır
Aures = Evrez
Bahgai = Ümmü'l-Buvaki
Tunis = Tunus
Bizerte = Bizerte
Annaba = Annaba
Quasantinah = Kosantine
Qamuda = ?





If names are same for locations you could use
Kale-yi Cezayir or Cezayir kalesi = the castle of Algiers
Just the name Cezayir or Şehr-i Cezayir = the city of Cezayir
Vilayet-i Cezayir or Cezayir ili or Cezayir eli = province of Algiers
could come in handy for Tripoli for example = Trablus (for location); Trablus ili (for province); and Trablusgarp or Garbî Trablus for the region.
 
  • 13
  • 6Like
Reactions:
They aren't a thing at this start date, as the 2 sultanates were unified by Abu Bakr by the start before collapsing once again shortly after his death, but it should probably be some sort of disaster (Or whatever would be the equivalent in this game).
Can you please add it to this thread?: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/flavor-event-suggestions-please-add-your-own.1697485/

I think that it's a great idea, as it will help us to track what the people would like to see as events in the game. :)
 
  • 29Like
  • 8Love
  • 1
Reactions: