Tinto Maps #27 - 22nd of November 2024 - Oceania

[matfer13]

These seas should probably be inland

 

[Atromb]

Does North America in the next TM include Mexico and the Caribbean or only US-Canada?

 

[Nikicaga]

There are people far more knowledgeable on Polynesia than me, but it seems to me that the Tonga Empire and the Hawaiian states at least fit the definition of proper tags, especially Tui Tonga, which waged expansionist wars and controlled many neighboring islands of different cultures. Other smaller nations around Tonga like the Fijian or Samoan states, or Rapa Nui, could perhaps fit as well - Rapa Nui should definitely be a SoP at least.

Similarly, I'm sad to see no SoPs in Australia. While obviously less advanced, many nations there seem to have practice some form of agriculture and diplomacy, in addition to a highly complex shared faith- so perhaps some like the Kulin Nation tribes could be SoPs. Torres Strait islanders on the other hand definitely practiced agriculture and traded with the Indonesians, and it seems obvious to me that they should be a SoP (and be added! It's odd that the islands aren't separate locations at the moment)

EDIT: Also, looking at Australia, there is an argument for a corridor through Central Australia, especially as the new mechanics mean that not all locations have to be colonizable. There have been many Aboriginal people living there, i.e. in the Alice Springs area, due to local climate and geography allowing for it. It would also allow for Uluru to be represented in a location, and improve the communication between north and south Australia

 

[Herensica]

Given the number of locations that have minimal market access in this region, it's made me wonder; What does a market access of 0 mean in practise? Are those locations unable to buy from or sell to their market?

 

[Kaspar Osraige]

Does North America in the next TM include Mexico and the Caribbean or only US-Canada?

Since they said four more to go I'm thinking it's only US-Canada, with Central America and South America separately.

 

[Zazzzzar]

Thats a lot of Australian religions, nice surprise to see each group getting their own, although some additional grouping would make sense as they had many common traditions and beliefs that differed in the detail. Keen to make plenty of suggestions on these maps.

The main thing that stood out to me was a united language for all Aboriginal groups south of the Northern Territory. That seems pretty bizarre to me, as there were at least two distinct language groups I can think of in NSW alone, even on opposite sides of Sydney harbour. Will research this further and definitely be providing some feedback on this.

 

[Mef]

Given the number of locations that have minimal market access in this region, it's made me wonder; What does a market access of 0 mean in practise? Are those locations unable to buy from or sell to their market?

I don't think it was ever states that market access reduces the amount of goods that can be bought/sold, just that having 0 market access would put you at the back of the queue.

 

[bokorthedust]

@Pavía date?

Surely you can put more effort into asking him out than that!

 

[matfer13]

Surely you can put more effort into asking him out than that!

You are right

 

[Atromb]

Surely you can put more effort into asking him out than that!

Romanticism is dead...

 

[Zazzzzar]

Man, that's a lot of locations in Australia.

It is the size of Europe. And they didn't even include much of the interior either (not that it would make much gameplay difference to do so).

 

[Pavía]

Will there not be any countries to represent the Aboriginal people?

Also, I presume the languages aren't fully done since that's a pretty big lacking of language for such a diverse area irl.

1. Could potentially be, depending on feedback, but right now there aren't.
2. They're mostly done, but we will be open to review, as usual.

 

[matfer13]

Surely you can put more effort into asking him out than that!

Done

 

[Pavía]

When you guys say you want to recombine religions into broader groups, does that mean into new religions or into religion groups? I think the former but I'm not sure.

Could be both, depending on how they are categorized.

 

[Kong Rødskæg]

I think you should consider adding more SoP's througout the whole area to make it more playable.. One of the "problems" with the pacific in previous games is that it simply wasn't an interesting place to play, and I think that adding more peoples and flavor to make it more interesting to play in the region of the world.. Maybe being able to take a maori or polynesian tribe, unite them into a proper state and become a colonial nation would be awesome.. So it would be cool if you could add more playable people groups througout the whole pacific(it seems french polynesia has nothing) to make the region more playable..

 

[Wildrake]

Why some wastelands have natural harbor bonuses? Is this somehow involved into gameplay?

 

[Impostor]

Livestock in australia represents which animals? I thought they did not have any and sheep, cattle etc are non-native.

 

[Pavía]

Will there be event/decision to grow wine/fruit in Australia?

Also, is there an updated British Isles coming soon?

We're thinking of ways to be able to move raw materials around...

 

[Pavía]

Will there be a Tinto Maps extra covering the remaining islands in the Indian Ocean?

Very likely, yes. Atlantis Chagos deserves its own DD!

 

[Pondar]

@Johan Do locations available for colonization but not inhabited by SoP have pops?